USMNT 2019

[Napoleon 8857]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Brooks when healthy. But thank you for a levelheaded take. I don't think people realize how much of a potential phenom Adams is turning into. At least, Hagbard doesn't realize that. 

I like Brooks... and I would not have him in the Top 3 above the 3 yutes.

[Hagbard Celine 11307]

18 hours ago, ztejas said:

Didn't you admit to not have watching Zardes play recently? Zardes has been good and should be our starting 9 imo. And this is coming from someone that has seriously doubted him in the past. 

You can question what you want, but if you aren't watching these guys actually play then it's all conjecture. 

I don't need to watch 1 minute of Zardes or Altidore because they shouldn't be in the set-up period end of story based on:

1. Their age today.

2. Their age in 3.5 years.

3. The greenfield opportunity with 18 months until the pre-hex is even on the radar.

4. A Full International tournament that only effects player value under the age of 22.

Can they help in qualifying?  I don't know, but we don't need to burn caps and minutes on them in this tournament.  Current form is irrelevant.

If we were playing in Copa America I would have the exact opposite opinion.

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18 hours ago, Napoleon said:

 would be interested in seeing your current ratings. 

If you look at:
-Impact on club
-Level of the league the club plays in
-How the club did this season...

Adams could currently be our "best player", not even "2nd best".

I'd assume that most people have Christian Pulisic at #1, though he's been ass for the USMNT since we crashed out against T&T and he's barely featured for Dortmund, but Weston McKennie's club sucked ass this year, he played all over the place out of necessity, and he was injured some. Adams had a much better year than Weston.

Other than: Pulisic, Adams, & McKennie, who else would even be in contention for Top 3 Best Players for the USMNT?

How anyone can rate Adams over Brooks in any of your metrics is beyond me but whatever.

I look forward to seeing Adams feature.  But if Bradley takes what should be Adams' spot next to CP we are wasting the opportunity everyone says this tournament is supposed to provide.

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18 hours ago, ztejas said:

Brooks when healthy. But thank you for a levelheaded take. I don't think people realize how much of a potential phenom Adams is turning into. At least, Hagbard doesn't realize that. 

Z, you are slepting yourself.  Brooks is obviously apparent, you diss me for not elevating Adams to #2, then you admit Brooks.

The fuck?

It's like you're spoiling/baiting for handbags at 20 paces.  Let's move on to griping about what Gregg is going to do in an hour.

Anyone with the starting lineup?

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16 hours ago, Napoleon said:

I like Brooks... and I would not have him in the Top 3 above the 3 yutes.

Take out CP from the analysis.

Run Brooks, Adams & McKennie through your metrics and show the argument.  I'm willing to listen.  You should add another metric: "winning goals in opening world cup group games against bitchass opponents that ended the 2 prior world cups for the US".

Brooks: 1

Adams: 0

McKennie: 0

Another metric: featured to help hometown club gain promotion to the top league in that country.

Brooks: 1

Adams: 0

McKennie: 0

How about, appeared in 75% of club's league matches in campaign that secured Europa league qualification.

Brooks: 1

Adams: 0

McKennie: 0

 

McKennie has 1 goal in 47 appearances for Schalke 04.

Adams has 0 goals in 10 appearances for Leipzigbulls since joining in January.  Yes, he did start and feature in the Pokal final loss to Bayern this season, just after missing 6 games injured.  Yes, he looked _very_ good this spring before the injury.  Yes, he is in that same position that CP was 2 years ago, joining in the winter and immediately having an impact in the spring.  But CP did it at 17/18 years old, Adams is doing it at 20, and CP started scoring immediately.  Zero, zed, zip, zilch goals in ten (10) appearances.  Ten.  Diez.  десять.  Zehn.

This tournament should be a coming-out-party for both of them.  If Gregg gets it right.

 

But they do not yet beat Brooks in any of Napoleon's metrics.

[Hagbard Celine 11307]

no bradley, but zardes.... okay gregg, you better start getting it right.

[Knoxtnhorn 6312]

Christ.  Trapp is going to be the new Beckermann, isn't he?

[ztejas 44299]

Puli off the bench? 

[ztejas 44299]

Kate Abdo is so. Fucking. Hot. 

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

10 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Puli off the bench? 

not on the bench. Ain't playing until the tournament.

[Bottlecap 1523]

wil trapp is fucking captain of the senior mens team.

captain. of. the. senior. mens. team. 

count me in as ready to fire gerg

[Bottlecap 1523]

this camera angle feel like FIFA

[Bottlecap 1523]

huge unfan of arriola too. i really hate our senior team right now.

[Bottlecap 1523]

Roldan sucks big cock

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[RamjetFDO 10655]

Well that was awesome.

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

PHENOMENAL pass from Zack Steffen to the Venezuelan player leading to the goal.

[Bottlecap 1523]

god i hope we flame out of the gold cup in the worst way. this whole shit needs to be redone from the bottom up.

[ztejas 44299]

Steffen's short leash just turned into a choke chain 

Man City probably thinking "no thanks"

[Knoxtnhorn 6312]

Not excusing the play but that was very much offside.

[Trey3216 15458]

That was about as regarded a play as I’ve ever seen

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

Venezuela finished last in CONMEBOL World Cup qualifying.

They have a guy who scored 11 goals in the Premier League this year starting and the MLS all-time single season goal scoring leader on the bench today.

The US has a pile of shit on the field.

[IPoopOnWhoop 106]

Just now, Knoxtnhorn said:

Not excusing the play but that was very much offside.

Yeah that was pretty terrible all around.  No idea how the linesman missed that or what the fuck we are doing.

[Bottlecap 1523]

3 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Not excusing the play but that was very much offside.

whichever american it was who was dorking around on the touchline kept him onside i thought

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

Just now, Bottlecap said:

whichever american it was who was dorking around on the touchline kept him onside i thought

Someone posted this on Twitter.

[Trey3216 15458]

Good God 

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

hahahahahahahahaha

[RamjetFDO 10655]

Yay us.

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

If I'm Pulisic and Adams I'm telling the USMNT thanks but no thanks to playing in the Gold Cup. Not even remotely worth their time currently. 

[Firemans4Horn 18543]

Gregg Berhalter is not our standard. 

[Knoxtnhorn 6312]

7 minutes ago, ATLLonghorn said:

Someone posted this on Twitter.

Yeah.  That's really not even close.  There's almost 2 complete "lawnmower" lines between them.

[Trey3216 15458]

Nice strike Weston

[Knoxtnhorn 6312]

2 minutes ago, ATLLonghorn said:

If I'm Pulisic and Adams I'm telling the USMNT thanks but no thanks to playing in the Gold Cup. Not even remotely worth their time currently. 

But we stolt a player from New Zealand...

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

2 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Gregg Berhalter is not our standard. 

We couldn't qualify for the World Cup in CONCACAF. He's exactly our standard.

(I know this is a long-time bit around here, but still)

[RamjetFDO 10655]

What. A. Shitshow.

 

 

[Bottlecap 1523]

hahahahaha, who was that? tim ream. got fucking abused. ream is total shit. even if it wasn''t ream he's shit.

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

Salomon Rondon scored 11 goals in the Premier League this year. There isn't a pure striker in the US Pool that could score 11 goals over three seasons in the Premier League.

[Knoxtnhorn 6312]

2 minutes ago, Bottlecap said:

hahahahaha, who was that? tim ream. got fucking abused. ream is total shit. even if it wasn''t ream he's shit.

I believe that was Long.

[Trey3216 15458]

Fire Gergg at half???

[Knoxtnhorn 6312]

Just lost my satellite feed.  Don't care.

[Brisketexan 107063]

We should quit. I mean, formally quit. This team is horrible.

[ztejas 44299]

Storm came through Dallas and took out my internet with us down 1-0. America didn't want me to see this one.

[Bottlecap 1523]

this is what you get with a trash 6

[mr. littlejeans 184]

[Bottlecap 1523]

ha, lots of boos in cincy. nice. i'm glad americans have invested in us soccer in a way that puts the fed on the hot seat so to speak.

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

3 minutes ago, Bottlecap said:

this is what you get with a trash roster

fixed

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

2 minutes ago, Bottlecap said:

ha, lots of boos in cincy. nice. i'm glad americans have invested in us soccer in a way that puts the fed on the hot seat so to speak.

The Fed stayed the course after World Cup qualifying replacing Gulati with one of his lackeys. There is no hot seat for American soccer. The program is dying and nobody in charge gives a fuck. They think everything is fine. 

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

This article from two years ago shows just how fucked the USMNT is unless they figure out a way to make the young potential stars they have the focal point of the program.

http://americansoccernow.com/articles/the-missing-years-u-s-soccer-s-development-gap

[ztejas 44299]

So should the axe Berhalter campaign start after this match or should we wait until we trip over our dicks in the GC. 

[ATLLonghorn 1118]

Jozy on for the USMNT for the first time since the loss to T&T. Hopefully it's the last.