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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:25 AM, Machinator said:

What are your thoughts on the situation at USC?

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A mess.  Keeping Clay Helton is important to the players, recruits and the families, so Lynn Swann is standing by  Clay by not making a HC change, but many feel that Lynn mandated the offensive overhaul.  

The fan base base is imploding because we’re entitled little bitches.

 

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I would wager both Rising and Thompson will leave.  They are going to have 20 or 30 teams recruiting them from now until Spring.  Basically any team with a QB room that projects as really young or shitty. Odds are there’s going to be a sales pitch to both that is more enticing than what they currently have. 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:46 AM, ClubWhatever said:

I would wager both Rising and Thompson will leave.  They are going to have 20 or 30 teams recruiting them from now until Spring.  Basically any team with a QB room that projects as really young or shitty. Odds are there’s going to be a sales pitch to both that is more enticing than what they currently have. 

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But they'll still have to sit a year and learn a new system. There's an opportunity cost.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:43 AM, Lhorn said:

I don't disagree.  He's allegedly a great recruiter and whoever called plays this year did a good job IMO.

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That and the players seem to be vary fond of him. Meh and warheim can get lost and drayton has not impressed me much either.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:08 AM, cafe society said:

 

I assume this is because Beck sucks as a QB coach, as evidenced by Sam's lack of development,  since he is a plus recruiter and we have assumed that Herman has been the play caller, right?  

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What fucking team were you watching this year? Take a timeout.  Maybe sit by the garbage and think about what you just said.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:36 AM, Casual Encounter said:

Our incoming QB is always going to be our next savior, right? This time next year he’ll be the backup who’s never taken a snap and therefore unproven at the college level. /Fan logic

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Yeah, but Roschon isn’t why Thompson and Rising are looking around. It’s because of Ehlinger. 

QB’s in this transfer environment aren’t going to wait until year 4 to be guaranteed significant playing time. 

This isn’t just a UT thing. OU has lost like 5 or 6 QBs to transfer the last 7 cycles because they always have a good starter. 

This is why you just keep stacking QBs. If one ends up being good (like Ehlinger) there is going to be attrition. 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:36 AM, Casual Encounter said:

Our incoming QB is always going to be our next savior, right? This time next year he’ll be the backup who’s never taken a snap and therefore unproven at the college level. /Fan logic

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I don’t think I nor anyone else on this thread called him a savior. If you are a backup at another school and scouting out potential places, are you likely to pick a school with our depth chart? You know, the school that is losing QB’s to avoid having five scholarship players on a depth chart where the current starter is a true sophomore? 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 4:07 AM, Newy25 said:

I don’t think I nor anyone else on this thread called him a savior. If you are a backup at another school and scouting out potential places, are you likely to pick a school with our depth chart? You know, the school that is losing QB’s to avoid having five scholarship players on a depth chart where the current starter is a true sophomore? 

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I’m thinking you missed my point but I don’t care enough to attempt to explain it better.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:47 AM, texifornia said:

But they'll still have to sit a year and learn a new system. There's an opportunity cost.

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Isn't their ways around sitting a year?  I was reading the kid thats transferring from Georgia was hiring a lawyer to try to get out of sitting a year whereever he lands.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 4:24 AM, Ramdiesel said:

Isn't their ways around sitting a year?  I was reading the kid thats transferring from Georgia was hiring a lawyer to try to get out of sitting a year whereever he lands.

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He's claiming racism as extenuating circumstances that forced him to transfer. Some dude claimed allergies

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:37 AM, Machinator said:

I wouldn't say it's a slam dunk he stays, but depth chart concerns are probably tougher to overcome than those about the offense. If Casey Thompson is never better than QB3 for the first 3-4 years on campus, staying at Texas probably doesn't sound enticing to him.

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Definitely not a slam dunk.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:36 AM, Casual Encounter said:

Our incoming QB is always going to be our next savior, right? This time next year he’ll be the backup who’s never taken a snap and therefore unproven at the college level. /Fan logic

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don’t you mean sound logic?

 

  On 12/23/2018 at 4:10 AM, Casual Encounter said:

I’m thinking you missed my point but I don’t care enough to attempt to explain it better.

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but you did care enough to respond and that’s really all that matters. 

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so about the transfer portal... players put their name in and can be contacted and recruited by other coaches for a period of time but don’t necessarily have to leave?  can they take visits to other schools?  and then after this courtship they can decide to stay put?

I think I agree with that fat toad in funkytown about this shit. 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 4:36 AM, futureman said:

so about the transfer portal... players put their name in and can be contacted and recruited by other coaches for a period of time but don’t necessarily have to leave?  can they take visits to other schools?  and then after this courtship they can decide to stay put?

I think I agree with that fat toad in funkytown about this shit. 

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Yes, you can remove your name from the portal.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 4:33 AM, futureman said:

 

don’t you mean sound logic?

 

but you did care enough to respond and that’s really all that matters. 

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1. Same players we raved about the year before and nothing happened to change our mind other than the age of their highlights.

2. Hey buddy, I choose when and where I waste my time.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 4:38 AM, futureman said:

yeah that racism claim would be a joke and he’d be a coward to hide behind it.  

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He’s got a claim. At a home game this season a UGA baseball player was yelling racial slurs at him and the guy was eventually kicked off the team. 

You figure you may have to deal with that shit on the road, but not at home.

Not saying it justifies his decision to transfer, but you may as well make your case if you’re trying to play right away. 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 4:46 AM, Yev Kassem said:

He’s got a claim. At a home game this season a UGA baseball player was yelling racial slurs at him and the guy was eventually kicked off the team. 

You figure you may have to deal with that shit on the road, but not at home.

Not saying it justifies his decision to transfer, but you may as well make your case if you’re trying to play right away. 

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it doesn’t justify him weaseling out of his situation.  he went to school at georgia and knew fromm was the starter and now he’s butthurt because he couldn’t beat him out so instead of going about things the way anyone else has to he’s gonna cry about one drunk college prick using a slur one time?  please. 

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Yeah, the Fields shit is dumb. He’s transferring because he wants to be the starter somewhere. 

This stuff is only going to get wilder with the portal. Talented players rarely wait for playing time.

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This transfer portal is going to incentivize the Texas staff to get more active on the transfer market. There are going to be a lot of quality transfers looking around. 

Losing both Rising and Thompson would suck but Texas can benefit from this system. 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 3:41 AM, TrojanPrincess said:

A mess.  Keeping Clay Helton is important to the players, recruits and the families, so Lynn Swann is standing by  Clay by not making a HC change, but many feel that Lynn mandated the offensive overhaul.  

The fan base base is imploding because we’re entitled little bitches.

 

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Outside of McCoy, who are the recruits about whom you’re speaking? You’ve signed a shit class because the guy is a weak coach and a weak recruiter and the stench around him is tough to wash off. I know that hurts to hear, since you’re in the tank on him, but what I said about the guy this summer holds true. The best in SoCal don’t want to play for him and he’s going to be a hilarious bust. But congrats on Bru. 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 5:04 AM, texasstrong12 said:

This transfer portal is going to incentivize the Texas staff to get more active on the transfer market. There are going to be a lot of quality transfers looking around. 

Losing both Rising and Thompson would suck but Texas can benefit from this system. 

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Very true.  A masters degree at a great academic school in one of the best cities at blue blood program has to be a top choice for players like Tre Watson.  Guys that have proven they can contribute meaningful snaps at a P5 level but may not have NFL talent.  I can see Texas picking up 1-2 solid players every year to shore up weak positions.

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  On 12/19/2018 at 8:49 PM, Machinator said:

Scipio Tex: Random National Signing Day 1 Thoughts

 

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Just reading this. TY. Scipio can wear you out at times but this was a very direct recap.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 5:32 AM, victory88 said:

Very true.  A masters degree at a great academic school in one of the best cities at blue blood program has to be a top choice for players like Tre Watson.  Guys that have proven they can contribute meaningful snaps at a P5 level but may not have NFL talent.  I can see Texas picking up 1-2 solid players every year to shore up weak positions.

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Those are just grad transfers too. I bet they get more active with transfers that have to sit out a year.

Where this portal will go wrong is when schools like Texas start poaching good players from non-p5 schools. If you're a good player on an average non-P5 team why wouldn't you enter the portal and see what options are out there? 

First player that comes to mind is Ben Banogu at TCU these last 2 years. You can find good players like those on small school teams. 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 2:55 AM, Not a Sock said:
Is it possible we are losing Beck and that would explain the QB transfers?
What's that thing about wishing in one hand, shitting in the other? I think that applies here..
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  On 12/23/2018 at 5:30 AM, closetojumping said:

Outside of McCoy, who are the recruits about whom you’re speaking? You’ve signed a shit class because the guy is a weak coach and a weak recruiter and the stench around him is tough to wash off. I know that hurts to hear, since you’re in the tank on him, but what I said about the guy this summer holds true. The best in SoCal don’t want to play for him and he’s going to be a hilarious bust. But congrats on Bru. 

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how’s the USC defense?  kliff may be gone in a year but he can make an offense go.  especially in a conference unfamiliar with him. 

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  On 12/23/2018 at 5:38 AM, futureman said:

how’s the USC defense?  kliff may be gone in a year but he can make an offense go.  especially in a conference unfamiliar with him. 

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This is the first time I’ve actually ever agreed with you.  It feels gross but you’re spot on.

 

  On 12/23/2018 at 5:30 AM, closetojumping said:

Outside of McCoy, who are the recruits about whom you’re speaking? You’ve signed a shit class because the guy is a weak coach and a weak recruiter and the stench around him is tough to wash off. I know that hurts to hear, since you’re in the tank on him, but what I said about the guy this summer holds true. The best in SoCal don’t want to play for him and he’s going to be a hilarious bust. But congrats on Bru. 

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If coach bro gets the offense clicking Helton might not be a lame duck and this year may be an outlier recruiting wise.  KK is a notoriously shitty recruiter and had nothing to do with this class.  They may have a burp in play in 2-3 years, they’ll also be putting up 40+ a game in the process.  Coach bro has also never had access to the talent he will at USC.  I’ll hold my breath on the last part of your statement and expect that attitude to change.

*We are not getting Bru.  

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  On 12/23/2018 at 2:50 AM, Machinator said:

Meanwhile, Wells is hinting at this coaching move setting off a chain of events for Texas. Probably Meekins, but we'll see.

 

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I am very much looking forward to a coaching hires/fired thread. Would that go in the fb or recruiting forum?

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  On 12/23/2018 at 4:46 AM, Yev Kassem said:

He’s got a claim. At a home game this season a UGA baseball player was yelling racial slurs at him and the guy was eventually kicked off the team

You figure you may have to deal with that shit on the road, but not at home.

Not saying it justifies his decision to transfer, but you may as well make your case if you’re trying to play right away. 

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1) The guy was a baseball player who was at least kicked off the team, if not kicked out of school within 2 days. (48 hours)

2) It's Georgia. You absolutely would expect it On the Road, At Home, On Campus, Just Off Campus...

 

  On 12/23/2018 at 4:53 AM, futureman said:

it doesn’t justify him weaseling out of his situation.  he went to school at georgia and knew from was the starter and now he’s butthurt because he couldn’t beat him out so instead of going about things the way anyone else has to he’s gonna cry about one drunk college prick using a slur one time?  please. 

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3) And his sister just signed to play some sport there this fall. (Basketball or Volleyball I believe.)

Your family has no problem sending the younger sister to the school, but a single incident that was immediately investigated and then dealt with by the school is a reason that a player should have to sit out a year?

THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE!
 

Plus, this happens at every SEC school and probably many others. (ACC...) Allowing him to transfer without sitting out a year would be opening Pandora's Box.

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  On 12/23/2018 at 6:39 AM, texifornia said:

Sigh. Futureman'd again 

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I gotchu fam. 

 

  On 12/23/2018 at 6:25 AM, Napoleon said:

1) The guy was a baseball player who was at least kicked off the team, if not kicked out of school within 2 days. (48 hours)

2) It's Georgia. You absolutely would expect it On the Road, At Home, On Campus, Just Off Campus...

 

3) And his sister just signed to play some sport there this fall. (Basketball or Volleyball I believe.)

Your family has no problem sending the younger sister to the school, but a single incident that was immediately investigated and then dealt with by the school is a reason that a player should have to sit out a year?

THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE!
 

Plus, this happens at every SEC school and probably many others. (ACC...) Allowing him to transfer without sitting out a year would be opening Pandora's Box.

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Go back to the football board.

  On 12/23/2018 at 6:14 AM, futureman said:

oh bullshit glen.  I can’t remember being at odds with you on anything.  

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Fuck you.

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