Texas recruiting notes 2019

[Bodacious Bevo 3584]

What is going on these last two pages? People are happy? Am I still on surly? 

[Ramdiesel 109]

58 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Those highlights are absolutely absurd. Unless he is playing against Jr High players, that film is outrageous. 

It's  Arizona, I would be skeptical of some of the competition his team played against.   He is really fast though.

[Ricky Butler 2717]

4 minutes ago, Ramdiesel said:

It's  Arizona, I would be skeptical of some of the competition his team played against.   He is really fast though.

Thanks

[Reese Bennett 3611]

I was disappointed when he didn’t score in those highlights.

[NorLa Horns 1458]

3 hours ago, Spawn of Cthulhu said:

If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, then it’s good enough for me.

Im amazed that an english speaking white dude living in the middle east turned out to be our lord and savior. 

[Bob Lives! 911]

Im amazed that an english speaking white dude living in the middle east turned out to be our lord and savior. 

“So there I was, the only white guy in Jerusalem.” - Jesus, probably


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[NoName 16351]

EN Comment on Jake Smith

Spoiler

 

Ridiculous acceleration. Has the traits to be a devastating route runner which will be really unfair when they motion him around and get match-ups on lesser coverage players.

He’s going to play X, Z, H, RB, PR, and KR.

Between he and Whittington, the staff landed two of the best pound for pound pure football players in the country.

additional: Yep. He needs carries. Solid, dense build.

We’re going to see how creative this staff is. That might be the only thing that limits Smith.

 

 

[williemackgarza 1826]

When will they update rankings?

[VaHorn 105]

6 hours ago, Ramdiesel said:

It's  Arizona, I would be skeptical of some of the competition his team played against.   He is really fast though.

He is great on offense but lackadaisical on defense.  He seems content to just tackle the guy rather than rip the ball out and score. 

[NorLa Horns 1458]

1 minute ago, williemackgarza said:

When will they update rankings?

the way aggy was acting in the Barton Simmons Q&A, i'd have thought it was already out, and all the aggy croots had been dropped out of the top 300 and all ours grouped in the top 50 in the nation. BOMC in effect , yall

[DigglerontheHoof 21197]

4*,5*, it don't make a shit.  Jake is going to run roughshod over the BXII.

[Revolution512 1487]

9 hours ago, Machinator said:

Interestingly, they said that wouldn't be a factor.

Hopefully he’s a better player

[Fud 9552]

He reminds me of Pete Rose, imo 

[ClubWhatever 12140]

13 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

Hopefully he’s a better player

I'd be happy if he was at least as good.  Anderson was a solid left tackle.  Nothing exceptional but solid.  Good enough to go undefeated in the Big12 with if the defense hadn't shat the bed in two games.

[CBHorn 420]

16 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

What’s this about Austrian zorro?

[rickyspub 801]

5 hours ago, Bob Lives! said:

 

“So there I was, the only white guy in Jerusalem.” - Jesus, probably


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Proof that Joseph wasn't his real father.

[CfRhTxStBobcats 600]

10 hours ago, USMCHorn said:

That is the fastest white boy I have ever seen in my life. It's like he's on fast forward the whole tape.

Too young to see Bobby Morrow, white lightnin from San Benito, TX  I guess. 3 gold medals 1956 Olympics. Luckily I was too young also, although I did see him around 1980 when I was 16.  I'm pretty sure I could have whipped his ass in about any race between 40 meters and a marathon that day.

[BigBenBamboozle 1952]

10 hours ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

What is going on these last two pages? People are happy? Am I still on surly? 

It’s clear to our fans, regardless of rankings, Texas is getting Day One game changers in Smith, Whittington, Brown, Floyd, and Owens. 

You add in Washington, TJohnson, Roshon, KWatson, and developmental guys like Warren, Sweat, Hookfin, and Mpagi, and this is starting to look like a competitive playoff roster.

Pretty incredible what Herman has achieved in two years, and what CDC has done in one. 🤘🏻

Edited January 10, 2019 by BigBenBamboozle

[RGBIII 22840]

3 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

This Jake Smith kid has a very generic name, so a big strike against him.

However, he does not have generic quicks, in fact he's rather insanely fast so that is very good.

Agreed, let’s change it up. Lil’Jake Smith

[Elmer_Fudd 22216]

6 minutes ago, BigBenBamboozle said:

It’s clear to our fans, regardless of rankings, Texas is getting Day One game changers in Smith, Whittington, Brown, Floyd, and Owens. 

You add in Washington, TJohnson, Roshon, KWatson, and developmental guys like Warren, Sweat, Hookfin, and Mpagi, and this is starting to look like a competitive playoff roster.

Pretty incredible what Herman has achieved in two years, and what CDC has done in one. 🤘🏻

Add the 2 JUCO guys to day one game changers.

[SydneyCarton 48097]

9 minutes ago, BigBenBamboozle said:

It’s clear to our fans, regardless of rankings, Texas is getting Day One game changers in Smith, Whittington, Brown, Floyd, and Owens. 

You add in Washington, TJohnson, Roshon, KWatson, and developmental guys like Warren, Sweat, Hookfin, and Mpagi, and this is starting to look like a competitive playoff roster.

Pretty incredible what Herman has achieved in two years, and what CDC has done in one. 🤘🏻

Id tape the brakes a bit. Owens is not a day 1 contributor, much less a game changer. Caden Sterns dont grow on trees and we arent getting 5 of them. Smith, and maybe whittington MAYBE. He had to adjust from a smaller district. If floyd is just average at lb its a huge boon, i dont think hes a day 1 game changer. And I dont think its ever a safe bet to call a true freshman OL a game changer. Well be lucky if hes serviceable as a true fish. Connor Williams was a freshman all american but he wasnt a game changer at tackle man. 

 

Unless your definition of Day One Game Changer is “these guys will play and maybe not suck like typical freshman.”

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Id tape the brakes a bit.

This seems like a bad idea.

[Stampeder 92]

14 minutes ago, BigBenBamboozle said:

It’s clear to our fans, regardless of rankings, Texas is getting Day One game changers in Smith, Whittington, Brown, Floyd, and Owens. 

You add in Washington, TJohnson, Roshon, KWatson, and developmental guys like Warren, Sweat, Hookfin, and Mpagi, and this is starting to look like a competitive playoff roster.

Pretty incredible what Herman has achieved in two years, and what CDC has done in one. 🤘🏻

Don't think Owens is going to be a game changer day one.  Supremely talented and also supremely raw.  Plus, he's got a number of extremely talented safeties in front of him.  Derrian Brown will see a good bit of playing time out of necessity, but I don't see him as a game changer.  Hope I'm wrong on that one.  I actually think T Johnson has a chance to start from day 1.  We don't have many guys like him on the roster and he is a EE.  He's got a chance to lock down a spot by the end of spring.

[Thiefery 4995]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Id tape the brakes a bit. Owens is not a day 1 contributor, much less a game changer. Caden Sterns dont grow on trees and we arent getting 5 of them. Smith, and maybe whittington MAYBE. He had to adjust from a smaller district. If floyd is just average at lb its a huge boon, i dont think hes a day 1 game changer. And I dont think its ever a safe bet to call a true freshman OL a game changer. Well be lucky if hes serviceable as a true fish. Connor Williams was a freshman all american but he wasnt a game changer at tackle man. 

 

Unless your definition of Day One Game Changer is “these guys will play and maybe not suck like typical freshman.”

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[Fud 9552]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Id tape the brakes a bit. Owens is not a day 1 contributor, much less a game changer. Caden Sterns dont grow on trees and we arent getting 5 of them. Smith, and maybe whittington MAYBE. He had to adjust from a smaller district. If floyd is just average at lb its a huge boon, i dont think hes a day 1 game changer. And I dont think its ever a safe bet to call a true freshman OL a game changer. Well be lucky if hes serviceable as a true fish. Connor Williams was a freshman all american but he wasnt a game changer at tackle man. 

 

Unless your definition of Day One Game Changer is “these guys will play and maybe not suck like typical freshman.”

I agree with most of this, although it's interesting you give the maybe qualifier to Whittington but not Smith, who probably played against worse competition. Additionally, Whittington is enrolling early and should get a jump start on his role.

[Scholz 11943]

10 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Agreed, let’s change it up. Lil’Jake Smith

Jake Shipley   /no racist

[Fud 9552]

I don't see why Owens is labeled as raw. He was raw as a junior, but as a senior he didn't look any more raw than your typical P5 safety prospect. 

[SydneyCarton 48097]

1 minute ago, Fud said:

I agree with most of this, although it's interesting you give the maybe qualifier to Whittington but not Smith, who probably played against worse competition. Additionally, Whittington is enrolling early and should get a jump start on his role.

Listen, I'm a fan like anyone else here, and it's pretty easy to look at Smith's film, regardless of level of competition, and it just seem so goddamn comparatively fast it looks like the guy is shot out of a cannon. But you make great points on Whittington. 

[SydneyCarton 48097]

1 minute ago, Fud said:

I don't see why Owens is labeled as raw. He was raw as a junior, but as a senior he didn't look any more raw than your typical P5 safety prospect. 

Well, it's hard to shake the raw label when damn near every report that came out of his all star game was "Raw" and "amazing athlete but needs a lot of work to maximize his potential," etc. 

[Magus Ossis 2799]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Well, it's hard to shake the raw label when damn near every report that came out of his all star game was "Raw" and "amazing athlete but needs a lot of work to maximize his potential," etc. 

The reports and watching him get scored on.

[Machinator 32099]

From our more-heralded 2018 class, we had maybe three players who made a significant positive impact the first game: Sterns, Foster, and Ingram. If that number is larger this time around, it's because we played a weaker opponent in week 1.

[Stampeder 92]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Well, it's hard to shake the raw label when damn near every report that came out of his all star game was "Raw" and "amazing athlete but needs a lot of work to maximize his potential," etc. 

And then you watch the game and see very inconsistent play.  On some plays his athleticism on full display and others his lack of experience leading to TDs by the opposition.  He's a fabulous talent and has a chance to be a special player.  Luckily, we don't need him to start for us and he should have proper time to develop.

[Newy25 7668]

I hope we have been doing a better job with our roster to the point where none of these freshman need to be day 1 starters. We have one receiver slot on offense up for grabs and two linebacker spots. Just based on that Floyd has the best chance to be a day 1 starter but I still think he will just be in the rotation. 

[thepop 4409]

4 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I hope we have been doing a better job with our roster to the point where none of these freshman need to be day 1 starters. We have one receiver slot on offense up for grabs and two linebacker spots. Just based on that Floyd has the best chance to be a day 1 starter but I still think he will just be in the rotation. 

The days of having a dozen freshman starting or significantly contributing are gone. This year, Sterns was the only freshman to start, and that had more to do with his talent than our need.

[Stampeder 92]

Just now, Newy25 said:

I hope we have been doing a better job with our roster to the point where none of these freshman need to be day 1 starters. We have one receiver slot on offense up for grabs and two linebacker spots. Just based on that Floyd has the best chance to be a day 1 starter but I still think he will just be in the rotation. 

Agreed.  We also have a couple CB spots in play as well as a few OL spots.  If we're going to have a freshman phenom this year I suspect it will be Whittington for the reasons mentioned previously.  He has a massive opportunity and he's coming in early.  Other positions there's a ton of competition already on campus or in the same recruiting class.  D. Brown might be another, but I'm not completely sold there.

[Machinator 32099]

Just now, thepop said:

The days of having a dozen freshman starting or significantly contributing are gone. This year, Sterns was the only freshman to start, and that had more to do with his talent than our need.

Bujcevski, Dicker

[Magus Ossis 2799]

I think many will play in year one, some will start. I think if not week one, at some point the slot will be a FR. Agree with Floyd as potential starter as well. With the others, I like the idea of sitting back and seeing how good our returning players are becoming and how quickly these new ones push.

[Fud 9552]

1 minute ago, Magus Ossis said:

The reports and watching him get scored on.

He also might have had the most interceptions in group practices. I know he had two in one day, and one the next. I saw clip of him carrying Whittington down the field on a fade route. 

I think people are saying "raw" instead of "he's currently good, but he has a ton of room until he hits his ceiling". But whatever, I'll quit bitching. 

 

[Scholz 11943]

I don't care if they start but I'm hoping to see a lot of Whittington at APB and Smith at slot on the field.  Preferably at the same time.

[thepop 4409]

4 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Bujcevski, Dicker

Ah yeah, didn't think about special teams. Point stands though. Those 2 guys will be starting for the next 3 years.

[Gene Parmesan 4006]

Has there ever been an amazing athlete that wasn't raw, or an incredibly polished guy that wasn't slow?

[Stampeder 92]

1 minute ago, thepop said:

Ah yeah, didn't think about special teams. Point stands though. Those 2 guys will be starting for the next 3 years.

Well, one of them for sure.  Do agree with your overall premise.  Roster management is much, much better as is our recruiting/evaluation.  We're still a year away in my view, but it's going to be much harder for a true freshman to come in and make major waves.  And that's great news.

[Sgt. Slaughter 2841]

This may be the longest quasi on-topic conversation this board has had in months.

[Newy25 7668]

4 minutes ago, Stampeder said:

Agreed.  We also have a couple CB spots in play as well as a few OL spots.  If we're going to have a freshman phenom this year I suspect it will be Whittington for the reasons mentioned previously.  He has a massive opportunity and he's coming in early.  Other positions there's a ton of competition already on campus or in the same recruiting class.  D. Brown might be another, but I'm not completely sold there.

I did not list CB or OL spots as up for grabs because we know who is likely to fill those spots already. Same for TE. 

[Stampeder 92]

6 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Has there ever been an amazing athlete that wasn't raw, or an incredibly polished guy that wasn't slow?

Too many to name...  Amon-Ra St Brown immediately comes to mind.  Amazing athlete, wasn't raw, very polished and definitely not slow.  

Edited January 10, 2019 by Stampeder

[Machinator 32099]

1 minute ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Has there ever been an amazing athlete that wasn't raw, or an incredibly polished guy that wasn't slow?

Washington is pretty polished and I wouldn't call him slow.

Sterns was also described as college-ready before enrolling. He's not track star like Brandon Jones, but nobody calls him slow.

[thepop 4409]

4 minutes ago, Stampeder said:

Well, one of them for sure.  Do agree with your overall premise.  Roster management is much, much better as is our recruiting/evaluation.  We're still a year away in my view, but it's going to be much harder for a true freshman to come in and make major waves.  And that's great news.

Do you think Buj will leave after his junior year too? Jk, but I do think he improved as the season went on and i'm sure he'll be fine. Not Dickson good but good enough.

[Magus Ossis 2799]

2 minutes ago, Fud said:

He also might have had the most interceptions in group practices. I know he had two in one day, and one the next. I saw clip of him carrying Whittington down the field on a fade route. 

I think people are saying "raw" instead of "he's currently good, but he has a ton of room until he hits his ceiling". But whatever, I'll quit bitching. 

 

As crazy as it sounds, a guy who gives up a fair number of easy TDs could still be a valuable piece to have on the board against a team like 2018 OU if he does indeed get INTs. The way to beat OU is to get a few stops by whatever means. Slowing their progress by breaking up a pass can lead to a kick, but tended to lead to first downs on subsequent plays for them last year. When solid reliable play generally means the D is on the field longer but gives up 6, a high beta guy makes a certain sense.

[BigBenBamboozle 1952]

23 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Id tape the brakes a bit. Owens is not a day 1 contributor, much less a game changer. Caden Sterns dont grow on trees and we arent getting 5 of them. Smith, and maybe whittington MAYBE. He had to adjust from a smaller district. If floyd is just average at lb its a huge boon, i dont think hes a day 1 game changer. And I dont think its ever a safe bet to call a true freshman OL a game changer. Well be lucky if hes serviceable as a true fish. Connor Williams was a freshman all american but he wasnt a game changer at tackle man. 

 

Unless your definition of Day One Game Changer is “these guys will play and maybe not suck like typical freshman.”

Point taken on Owens.  I also didn't list Tyler Johnson as Day One.  I think Floyd will bring a mentality that you can't teach from the moment he steps on campus.  I'd agree with Fud that Whittington may be the safest bet for the beginning of next season as an EE.  

Edited January 10, 2019 by BigBenBamboozle

[Stampeder 92]

1 minute ago, Newy25 said:

I did not list CB or OL spots as up for grabs because we know who is likely to fill those spots already. Same for TE. 

Cook likely has one CB spot nailed down.  Most feel J. Green has more natural talent and is the likely starter at the other corner.  But he got very little playing time and I'm not sure he's more talented than K. Watson.  To me, at least one CB is very much up for grabs.  On the O-Line, we got three spots to fill and a number of developmental guys.  T Johnson might be able to come in as a EE and nail down one of those spots.  I think he's the most talented OL we have on the roster at this point.