Texas recruiting notes 2019

[Bevo 13570]

6 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Giles is so fucking bad. I mean, he’s one of the laziest, most disconnected pieces of shit to work a phone for a college since Mac McWhorter. 

Ughh. What is going on with that Oklahoma guy who had similar tape?

[SydneyCarton 48069]

5 hours ago, satyanash said:

If it makes you feel better, the TCU guys claim he showed up to camp there much smaller than his advertised height/weight.

Not sure how that makes anyone feel better about how abysmal a recruiter our D line coach is...even if true, ”fuck, he couldnt even land that guy who sucked” still isnt a ringing endorsement.

[rvm96 1643]

14 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Ughh. What is going on with that Oklahoma guy who had similar tape?

I believe that you're talking about this guy. https://247sports.com/Player/Trace-Ford-46052169/

[Bevo 13570]

47 minutes ago, rvm96 said:

I believe that you're talking about this guy. https://247sports.com/Player/Trace-Ford-46052169/

Yeah, that is the guy I was talking about. Now, that I think about it though, he wouldn't make me feel better about DL recruiting. We have to get some elite guys on the d-line to compete with playoff teams. I guess 2 out of the 2 JUCOs, Tuitele and Leal to add to what we have would do it. Sweat, Carter, and Mpagi give me the rumbly tumbly.

[SydneyCarton 48069]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

Yeah, that is the guy I was talking about. Now, that I think about it though, he wouldn't make me feel better about DL recruiting. We have to get some elite guys on the d-line to compete with playoff teams. I guess 2 out of the 2 JUCOs, Tuitele and Leal to add to what we have would do it. Sweat, Carter, and Mpagi give me the rumbly tumbly.

Oh yeah? Would a blowjob from Kate Beckinsale tickle your fancy too, Captain Obvious? Pick either of those options in one hand and shit in the other, and play the age old scenario out. Good luck not getting shit on your face.

Edited July 6, 2018 by SydneyCarton

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

13 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Oh yeah? Would a blowjob from Kate Beckonsale tickle your fancy too, Captain Obvious? Pick either of those options in one hand and shit in the other, and play the age old scenario out. Good luck not getting shit on your face.

Most definitely.

[theaveragejon 988]

19 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:

Most definitely.

Kate makes my pp throbbingly. 

[satyanash 14480]

EJ after dark: Big recruiting weekend ahead for Texas?

— Yes, we are aware of the ‘shhh’ emoji released by Texas Director of Recruiting Bryan Carrington. So how soon could this news come into fruition? Let’s just say it could be another exciting weekend for UT recruiting.

— Texas made the final five for defensive line target Taurean Carter this week. The three-star prospect doesn’t plan on making a decision until October, so there is still some time to go in this recruitment. However, we are continuing to hear that TCU and Texas are the teams to beat at this time. We expect Carter to make an official visit to Texas in the fall. Winning him over on the OV is imperative.

— Millwood (Okla.) wide receiver Demariyon Houston is set to make his decision tomorrow, and everything is still pretty quiet around his recruitment. We still have reason to believe that Oklahoma State holds the slight edge in his recruitment, but Texas is going to continue to fight for his services. Would we be shocked if he lands at UT? No. But we’re likely sticking with our Oklahoma State picks.

— Four-star Kentwood (La.) wide receiver Trey Palmer released his top schools this week, and Texas did not make the cut. Palmer was always a long shot. Right now, the Longhorns remained focused on guys like Dylan Wright, Bru McCoy, Makiya Tongue and Elijah Higgins on the outside. Remember, Tongue and Higgins are gearing up for August decisions, so it will be interesting to see how things develop with those two over the next month.

[Enchubben 5510]

Gotta wonder what the exact issues are with DL recruiting. Even if Giles is a dogshit recruiter, he appears to be a great development coach which you think would resonate with recruits.

Any chance the struggle has more to do with our defensive alignment and not playing a traditional 4 man dl?

[Katfid54 8620]

I, too, will accept a blowj from Kate. Just fyi. 

[closetojumping 62570]

14 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Gotta wonder what the exact issues are with DL recruiting. Even if Giles is a dogshit recruiter, he appears to be a great development coach which you think would resonate with recruits.

Any chance the struggle has more to do with our defensive alignment and not playing a traditional 4 man dl?

He’s a notoriously lazy recruiter with no self-awareness. Oblivious and indifferent will get you beat in the recruiting game. It’s not anything more than that. He doesn’t like doing it, so he fails to do it enthusiastically, and he doesn’t hear what the recruits are telling him, even when they’re saying nothing. 

[Dondrysdale1 363]

14 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Gotta wonder what the exact issues are with DL recruiting. Even if Giles is a dogshit recruiter, he appears to be a great development coach which you think would resonate with recruits.

Any chance the struggle has more to do with our defensive alignment and not playing a traditional 4 man dl?

I understand fretting when losing a player, but the hate over losing an Arkansas kid whose dad played football at Arkansas to Arkansas is not the hill I would die on if I’m going after Giles. I think the issue is making this guy some sort of priority over anyone else and costing you in those recruitments is the issue I see. I’m pretty sure our staff gathers that sort of info and provides to coaches. 

[Elmer_Fudd 22204]

Wish Orlando was the lead recruiter for a couple of these DL recruits.

[Elmer_Fudd 22204]

20 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Gotta wonder what the exact issues are with DL recruiting. Even if Giles is a dogshit recruiter, he appears to be a great development coach which you think would resonate with recruits.

Any chance the struggle has more to do with our defensive alignment and not playing a traditional 4 man dl?

I mean, you watch a lot of these kids hudl and they are playing in 3-man fronts (Leal, Fat Tut).  I'm sure Leal bought the idea of being a 4 man DE from Jimbo and Elko (until/if he arrives and gets sent to DT) and he seems sucked up in the SEC narrative.

[SydneyCarton 48069]

8 minutes ago, Dondrysdale1 said:

I understand fretting when losing a player, but the hate over losing an Arkansas kid whose dad played football at Arkansas to Arkansas is not the hill I would die on if I’m going after Giles. I think the issue is making this guy some sort of priority over anyone else and costing you in those recruitments is the issue I see. I’m pretty sure our staff gathers that sort of info and provides to coaches. 

This all makes perfect sense if this were the first strike against Giles, as opposed to the 15th. He was lazy back to the days of Mack Brown.

The only thing that is going to fix Giles's recruiting is winning, and winning big, so he basically doesn't have to do any recruiting anymore. That or bring in a send DL coach who does all the recruiting, which isn't ideal either for a number of reasons. So yeah, win and win big so the lure of Texas does all the work for you is the only way you're going to see us stop bitching about Giles. That and putting out a shit ton of DL picks in the first 3 rounds. 

[Orange&White 5522]

Has the requisite three week already passed since our last Giles thread derail?

My how time flies.

[deech 2272]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Oh yeah? Would a blowjob from Kate Beckonsale tickle your fancy too, Captain Obvious? Pick either of those options in one hand and shit in the other, and play the age old scenario out. Good luck not getting shit on your face.

I'm not going to neg you for misspelling or a typo, but you need to do better in this thread with people's names. 

[Gut Wagon 8065]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

So yeah, win and win big so the lure of Texas does all the work for you is the only way you're going to see us stop bitching about Giles. That and putting out a shit ton of DL picks in the first 3 rounds. 

We need to have some awesome defensive line recruits sign with us without being properly recruited, then perform spectacularly well and get drafted high. That will pave the way for us to sign some more awesome defensive linemen. 

[SydneyCarton 48069]

Just now, Gut Wagon said:

We need to have some awesome defensive line recruits sign with us without being properly recruited, then perform spectacularly well and get drafted high. That will pave the way for us to sign some more awesome defensive linemen. 

Well when you say it that way, it sounds fucking absurd. Wait it sounded fucking absurd when I typed it too. 

Fucking Giles. 

[SydneyCarton 48069]

3 minutes ago, deech said:

I'm not going to neg you for misspelling or a typo, but you need to do better in this thread with people's names. 

I do hate typing on my phone. I fucking suck at it. 

[Machinator 32099]

5 minutes ago, Orange^White said:

Has the requisite three week already passed since our last Giles thread derail?

My how time flies.

How is it a derail? The recruiting prowess (or lack thereof) of one of our coaches seems relevant to me.

[joeycovers 391]

Someone explain the Giles hate?  Last year we signed the top DT and DE in state.

 

Also tapped into the MO pipeline and added Ojomo. 

 

This year i get it but its far from over. 

[Orange&White 5522]

Just now, Machinator said:

How is it a derail? The recruiting prowess (or lack thereof) of one of our coaches seems relevant to me.

Because anything anyone is going to say has already been said ad nauseam. Is there suddenly going to be some new way to say "Giles sucks" that will greatly differ from the previous 10,377 times it's already been said? Some new tidbit that someone's been holding back?

[Elmer_Fudd 22204]

Looks like a full day of Giles talk.

[Machinator 32099]

Just now, Orange^White said:

Because anything anyone is going to say has already been said ad nauseam. Is there suddenly going to be some new way to say "Giles sucks" that will greatly differ from the previous 10,377 times it's already been said? Some new tidbit that someone's been holding back?

It's necessary when people still labor under assumptions like these:

1 minute ago, joeycovers said:

Someone explain the Giles hate?  Last year we signed the top DT and DE in state.

 

Also tapped into the MO pipeline and added Ojomo. 

 

This year i get it but its far from over. 

 

[Machinator 32099]

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Looks like a full day of Giles talk.

Maybe Caldwell will commit today.

[Gut Wagon 8065]

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Looks like a full day of Giles talk.

What could be more appropriate for the dead period than discussion of a dead recruiter? 

[Elmer_Fudd 22204]

1 minute ago, Gut Wagon said:

What could be more appropriate for the dead period than discussion of a dead recruiter? 

Adding in Mehringer and Warehime to get the three amigos.

[Machinator 32099]

Just now, Elmer_Fudd said:

Adding in Mehringer and Warehime to get the three amigos.

Mehringer is probably the biggest dead weight on the staff.

As much as I want to hate on Warehime, to this non-insider he has done work on the trail this cycle. Obviously the coaching on the field is still in question.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

3 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Mehringer is probably the biggest dead weight on the staff.

To be fair, it looks like was busy recruiting, and landed, a highly rated woman. 

[closetojumping 62570]

8 minutes ago, Orange^White said:

Because anything anyone is going to say has already been said ad nauseam. Is there suddenly going to be some new way to say "Giles sucks" that will greatly differ from the previous 10,377 times it's already been said? Some new tidbit that someone's been holding back?

The post I’ve quoted below you is the part of the really complex equation for bulletin board dialogue that you appear to be missing. The Giles discussion is pushed forward because posters show up to defend him, ignorantly but steadily, or to merely play the “your NOTZ a corches!!!?!” card. This happens with Warehime, Mehringer, Beck, it happened with Watson, MacMcWhorter, Giles under Mack, Greg Davis, Vance Bedford, Tim Nunez, and fucking Clovis Hale. As long that happens, people who hang out on a board like this and know better are going to respond. And guys like you will show to plaintively whine about it. 

8 minutes ago, joeycovers said:

Someone explain the Giles hate?  Last year we signed the top DT and DE in state.

 

Also tapped into the MO pipeline and added Ojomo. 

 

This year i get it but its far from over. 

You’re not going to get it because you don’t want to get it, so live in the world you’ve crafted where Giles recruited those top guys and be blissfully happy. 

[satyanash 14480]

26 minutes ago, joeycovers said:

Someone explain the Giles hate?  Last year we signed the top DT and DE in state.

Also tapped into the MO pipeline and added Ojomo. 

This year i get it but its far from over. 

So what you're saying is, Giles is a great recruiter as long as the top DT in the state has Meekins' twin brother for a HS coach and the top DE in the state sees his leading school fire their coach after a dismal season.

[thepop 4409]

god damn it stfu about giles

[Machinator 32099]

TFB Open Post: http://texas.thefootballbrainiacs.com/2018/07/open-post-weekend-july-6th-8th/

– Recently, 2019 DT, Taurean Carter (Mansfield Legacy) dropped his top five which included: Texas, TCU, Texas Tech, Arkansas, and Michigan State.

Carter tells me he is set to announce his decision on October 24th. – (Super K)

– As you all know, 2019 WR, Demariyon Houston (OKC) is set to announce his decision on July 7th. We previously noted that our sources around Demariyon Houston have indicated that Texas is the team to beat.

Things look good on that front. But…

The question has been, with Texas having recently taken Jake Smith, should Houston want to commit, is Texas in a position to take him?

The latest we have heard is, yes. If Demariyon does indeed select Texas, Texas will take the 4-star wide receiver. – (Super K)

– On the fourth, Bryan Carrington tweeted…

Am told this one is a 2019 and will go down this Saturday… – (Super K)

– Jalen Catalon is probably one of the top, if not the top, safety prospect on the Longhorns’ big board. This is due to the crazy versatility he gives to any team that gets his commitment. Want him at deep safety? He has the ability to patrol the field like a center fielder (which he is where he plays in baseball). Want him as a nickel? He has the strength and tenacity to play inside the box and take on guys a few heads taller than him. Want him at corner? He has the speed to keep up with most any wide receiver out here at the Opening. The only thing holding him back is he’s a 5’9″ guy, otherwise, he’d be a five-star prospect.

There are plenty of coaches who are looking past his size and seeing the talent he possesses in his film. He has created pretty solid relationships with Texas, Arkansas, TCU, Clemson, and Oklahoma with Alabama starting to creep in. Despite this, as we’ve reported before, he will not be making any decisions until January 31st and doesn’t even have a timeline for dropping a top five. In fact, he’s only lined up one official visit with Arkansas when they play Alabama. Compared to his colleagues, his recruitment is still very much in the air.

Why has Jalen Catalon gone down the road less traveled this year, and not hurrying to commit? He told me he is trying to stay away from the hype, “Some people kind of go through the decision, and they like the school. But I don’t really think they do their research. I want to be the one that does his research on every school, makes sure that I know everything about the schools I’m interested in… So I think that’s why I want to take my time and make sure me and my family breakdown every aspect of the university football-wise and educational-wise… it’s just like a project, bro. Some people want to turn it in early, but if it’s not due… take your time on it and make sure it’s correct and it’s neat.”

So despite the fact that the decision is months away, let’s go down these six schools with Jalen Catalon to see what he likes about each:

Arkansas

“It’s just how they recruit, and I think I see great things happening there. I’ve heard it’s a great atmosphere. I can see it with the baseball team as well. Just the opportunity to do both as well gives me that kind of excitement to say I can do both at Arkansas.”

TCU

“TCU is close to home. I love the coaches there. Coach Fish, Coach Gonzales, and Coach Patterson keep it real with me. They let me know how things are going to be and what they have planned for me. They keep a close relationship with my family, make sure my family is doing well, and everything is good with them. The fact that they worry about my family more than me sometimes shows that they really care about family.”

Texas

“The opportunity to [play football and baseball] for a prestigious school like Texas, it makes me excited to know I have the opportunity to do both. Also the coaches. Coach Herman texts me a lot to see how everything is going, how my family is doing and keeps up with me. It lets me know there’s interest when a head coach keeps up with you the way he does. Of course Coach Naivar… he’s on me, making sure everything is going well. Asks me questions about how my life is going. He keeps in touch with me on a daily basis. It’s something I really appreciate about him and I like the way he recruits me. I mean at Texas, the atmosphere and city are really nice…”

Alabama

“That’s big time. That’s one of the biggest programs around. They’re a powerhouse. I feel like if I go there, there is competition. That is something every athlete needs to go through is competition…”

Oklahoma

“One of the first schools to offer me and they’ve kept that connection since. Lincoln Riley is a great dude and a great head coach, and you can see why. He really cares about his family. And when the football comes, he just dominates. Offense it shows and the defense I think is going to improve as well. I like coach Cooks too. They had a big time 2018 class and the 19 class is nice.”

Let’s dive a bit more into Texas and what they bring to the table for Jalen Catalon.

As we can see from the above list, there are a lot of things that Texas will have to compete with, so I asked Catalon what Texas will have to do to really stand out, “Honestly, I think they’ve done a lot. I would say they’re standing out to me. Now I just have to go an reassure myself on visits. I’ve been there quite a bit. I’ve seen the baseball. I’ve seen the football. I’ve seen how they treat you around there, and that is what stands out to me, and there are other schools that stand out to me as well… ”

But it appears like the city of Austin is selling itself to Catalon, “I mean the city itself just shows what you are going to be around. It’s a great atmosphere, and the network for Texas is great. If football or baseball doesn’t work out, I know I have options… Just the fact that the city has so much to offer helps me and my family know that if I do go to Texas there will be that network.”

Both Jalen Catalon and Coach Craig Naivar are huge baseball guys. It seems like Naivar has found that Catalon shares the same love for baseball as him and has developed a relationship based on the shared passion, “He’s done baseball and his son does it. He’s around it, so it’s easy to start a conversation with him about football that transitions to baseball… He’s a baseball junkie. He loves baseball. He shows me times where he’s gone to Yankee Stadium, Diamondback Stadium, and he’s always at Rangers’ ballpark… I think that helps me with the fact that if I want to do both I know that he’ll encourage me.” – (Will)

– When it comes to Texas, Trey Sanders sees a wide-open opportunity to compete for carries.

The Longhorns, who are in need of quality backs in the Class of 2019, are pushing for both Sanders and fellow blue-chipper Noah Cain, his teammate at IMG Academy (Fla.). Texas would like not one, but both of the top-five backs in the class, which has piqued the interests of both Sanders and Cain.

“They have no running backs right now, so we could pretty much go in and dominate,” Sanders said. “At first, we were thinking of going to different colleges. Then we talked about playing together, going to the same college, saving our legs and going to college together. It’s a smart decision, but we’re still going to succeed no matter what.”

For Sanders personally, the Longhorns are a school that’s quietly surging in the pecking order. That’s a credit to Stan Drayton, Texas’ running backs coach who’s leading the team’s pursuit of Sanders.

“Growing up, my parents told me not to be like anyone else,” Sanders began. “Even though I’m the No. 1 running back in the nation and I’ve been talked about to ‘Bama, Texas is still a special place. They didn’t do great last year, but they’re a special team and Stan Drayton has a helluva resume.”

Thirty-six colleges were in contact with Sanders — on Monday alone.

That includes the likes of Georgia, Alabama, Florida and, of course, Texas, who Sanders said is 60-percent likely to have a cap on the table when he announces his decision this fall.

The Longhorns, however, have some ground to gain on the teams sitting atop his board.

“I feel like they’re up there,” Sanders said. “Gaining ground.”

“I want to see how each team does this year,” he added, naming LSU, Texas, Georgia and Oklahoma as some of the schools he plans on monitoring. “I want to see how their running backs do and what they do with their running backs, if they’re having good or bad seasons, to see if it’s going to help their teams.”

Cain’s decision could play a role as well.

LSU and Texas are teams — in Sanders’ mind — are leading the way for his cohort, Cain. If the two IMG backs elect to remain teammates in 2019, Texas is a likely landing spot.

“It’s probably Texas right now and we talk about LSU, too,” Sanders said of Cain’s top schools. “He loves coach Stan Drayton and they’ve built that relationship with him since he was at Ohio State.” – (Sam Spiegelman)

– Florida linebacker Rian Davis is a crucial target for Texas, who are looking to restock their thin linebacking room. Texas has plans for him to play their Mac position, and from what I’ve seen from Davis today, he has the speed and awareness in space to play along with his size. This was honestly surprising to me as he has really played much better here than what I’ve seen in the past. That seems like it’s a good sign, especially for a player who could potentially play in the pass-happy Big 12.

The Florida linebacker recently took his official visit to Texas before the dead period which propelled Texas into a great position. When I asked him about the visit, Davis got animated and told me, “That [visit] was good! I had a great time at Texas.” It appears the coaching staff is doing everything they can to make sure that Davis and they have a solid relationship going forward, “I have a great relationship with Coach Orlando. We talk almost every day. I also have a good relationship with Coach Herman. We talk, I bet, like twice a week… They ask me how I’m doing, what I’m up to, and we talk a little bit about football. Just getting to know me.”

This effort by the staff seems well placed as he told us before that he is looking for, “Good relationship with the coaches, I want to meet the staff and the players, I want it to feel like home, and the education.”

The coaches are not the only ones recruiting Rian Davis. DeGabriel Floyd told me yesterday that he is focusing very hard on staying in Rian Davis’ ear. Davis confirmed that today, telling me that between the Georgia commits and Texas commits, the Texas commits are recruiting him the hardest because DeGabriel Floyd won’t stop letting him know that those two together “…will make a nasty combo at UT.”

The race has cleared up as of late and Georgia and Texas are the front-runners. While we know what Texas has been telling him, I asked what the message is from Athen, GA, and what’s made them stand out, “I think it’s just the relationship with Coach Schumer is strong and I’ve been on campus, like, three times already… I can come in and if I do what I need to I can start or get playing time.” – (Will)

– While 5-star ATH Bru McCoy is not participating in the Opening this week (sports-hernia), there is no question that he is a special player. Every single person I’ve talked to who has seen him play in person or knows him personally raves about him on and off the field. Bru McCoy is a great receiver and a fantastic linebacker. While Bru McCoy projects himself as a receiver, he’s not against coming on the field to play a little linebacker in certain situations, “I personally project myself as a receiver, but… coming in on third down, it’s not very hard on your body… It’s just one play at most on a five-play drive, and then they compensate on the other side of the ball by rotating. It’s not that unimaginable.”

The way McCoy wants to be used works perfectly for the Longhorns as they are the one team between his leaders, Texas and USC, to tell him that he could play both positions, “Texas specifically talked about having a third-down package for me because they said that’s what they run on third down anyway. They just blitz off the edge, so I said, ‘perfect.’ That would be a perfect fit.”

With DeGabriel Floyd whispering in his ear and getting him down to Texas, the Longhorns have been able to establish a relationship with the talented prospect that would have been difficult in the past. It’s apparent in how he reflected on his first visit to Texas, that Texas gave him more than he bargained for, “I’m very high on Texas. I went there to just get a feel for it. Meeting Coach Herman, his energy, and what he hopes to get out of his players, and especially Coach Mehringer and the way he’s involved and the relationship he has which each of his receivers. Just talking with them, I feel like it’s really important to have a really good relationship with your position coach because it’s who you spend the most time with, and I feel he and I can definitely have a good relationship. I want to play for him. I loved the campus and facility and all that stuff. And Austin is a cool city.”

However, USC has the hometown advantage as one might expect, “I grew up an SC fan, so it’s like when you’re facing going to play for the who I was a fan of growing up, it’s unreal. I love SC. And the comparison I set for myself is where I see myself playing, how I’m getting out, my degree, and the platform I can build for myself outside of football, networking wise. Who I can get to know and how that is going to help me down the road.”

However, the thing that USC really has in their favor is McCoy’s good friends QB JT Daniels and WR Amon Ra St. Brown. The way he and many different athletes going into college sort through the mess of the recruiting process is by turning to players already in the system. While DeGabriel Floyd may be constantly in his ear and the coaching staff is giving him the pitch he likes best, he has his best friends at USC to turn to, “If you have a relationship with someone on the team, they’re not going to lie to you about coaches. So you know if they recruited them a certain way and they got there and they switched up and they’re a completely different person, then I’m going to hear about it.”

Right now, Texas appears to be trending very well for the 5-star athlete, winning him over with relationship building and playing time/package pitch, but it will be hard to pull such a talented Mater Dei prospect away from USC. – (Will)

– Noah Cain is bracing to trim his top group of schools to five or six by the time he touches back down at IMG Academy (Fla.) for his senior season. Texas has assured itself a spot in that exclusive list.

The Longhorns, who are courting not only Cain but his high school teammate Trey Sanders, are coming hard after the two blue-chip running backs because of a glaring need in the backfield. That’s not only a selling point for Cain, but an obvious plus as he evaluates his fit at each potential landing spot.

“Trey and me have a great relationship together,” he said. “He wants to see me do good and I want to see him do good. We feed off each other. Texas is one of those schools where we can achieve our dream together. That’s why we look at Texas heavy. If not, it’s for the best, but Texas thinks we can handle our business and take over.”

Of the schools vying to make Cain’s top group next month, Texas, Clemson, LSU, Ohio State, and Miami are in the most frequent communication with the Baton Rouge native. Of course, Cain kickstarted his high school career at Denton Guyer (Texas) High School, so his ties to the Lone Star State can’t be overlooked.

Texas has yet to land a running back in its 2019 recruiting class and is selling a wide-open backfield for Cain and Sanders to earn spots in as true freshmen.

“They’ve made it real known,” Cain said in reference to the Longhorns’ need for backs. “Coach Stan Drayton has been real transparent with me that they’re going after me and my boy, and I’m fine with that. We love grinding off each and getting better every day.”

Expect Texas to make Cain’s top five or six because thus far, Drayton — who has been recruiting the 4-star tailback since he was at Ohio State — has forged a strong bond with the top target.

Cain, who won’t make a decision until the December signing period, noted that Auburn, Penn State, Georgia and Clemson have surged after recent unofficial visits. Meanwhile, LSU is selling the hometown angle and is all but assured a spot in his top group.

So, how can one school jump the forefront before Signing Day?

“It’s about the best fit for me and for where I can achieve my goals,” Cain explained. “I’m not really into the hype. It’s about who can develop me and help me be a first-round (draft) pick, be a complete running back and, of course, achieve my academic goals.” – (Sam Spiegelman)

[joeycovers 391]

Just now, satyanash said:

So what you're saying is, Giles is a great recruiter as long as the top DT in the state has Meekins' twin brother for a HS coach and the top DE in the state sees his leading school fire their coach after a dismal season.

No, What i'm saying is give me the history lesson because he has been here 1 year with Herman and I have no idea what he didn't do 7 years ago. 

[Dondrysdale1 363]

I don’t defend Giles. He deserves the grief with Leal, Hicks, Stripling and many more. I just think the failure in the most recent recruitment was waisting anytime at all on it knowing he was an Arkansas legacy from Arkansas. This is on both Giles and the support staff that help build a relationship and point catches toward the worthwhile recruitments.

[Cashdaddyblumpkins 207]

For God's sake, can someone start a Giles thread? We don't need to do this every other day, at least not here.

[Vertigo 20276]

55 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Wish Orlando was the lead recruiter for a couple of these DL recruits.

Once we fire Warehime and Mehringer into the sun, we should really consider adding a second DL coach if Herman just refuses to put Giles out to pasture. 

[Orange&White 5522]

24 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 And guys like you will show to plaintively whine about it. 

 

I'll wear this like a badge of honor coming from the most pompous ass , thin skinned, whining bitch on this site.

[The Dog 44020]

39 minutes ago, joeycovers said:

Someone explain the Giles hate?  Last year we signed the top DT and DE in state.

 

Also tapped into the MO pipeline and added Ojomo. 

 

This year i get it but its far from over. 

Giles wasn't the primary recruiter for Carson and the ones other than Ojomo (and more highly rated) were not recruited by Giles. 

[Fug 540]

38 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Looks like a full day of Giles talk.

Giles talk not going away

[irishtexan 11515]

27 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The post I’ve quoted below you is the part of the really complex equation for bulletin board dialogue that you appear to be missing. The Giles discussion is pushed forward because posters show up to defend him, ignorantly but steadily, or to merely play the “your NOTZ a corches!!!?!” card. This happens with Warehime, Mehringer, Beck, it happened with Watson, MacMcWhorter, Giles under Mack, Greg Davis, Vance Bedford, Tim Nunez, and fucking Clovis Hale. As long that happens, people who hang out on a board like this and know better are going to respond. And guys like you will show to plaintively whine about it. 

 

13 minutes ago, satyanash said:

So what you're saying is, Giles is a great recruiter as long as the top DT in the state has Meekins' twin brother for a HS coach and the top DE in the state sees his leading school fire their coach after a dismal season.

 

 

ctj & satyanash = fully aligned

Edited July 6, 2018 by irishtexan

[Machinator 32099]

16 minutes ago, joeycovers said:

No, What i'm saying is give me the history lesson because he has been here 1 year with Herman and I have no idea what he didn't do 7 years ago. 

The three big prizes were Coburn, Ossai, and Ojomo.

As mentioned above, Coburn was a result of hiring his high school head coach, Meekins.

The door was left open for Ossai when Sumlin got fired, and Carrington was the guy who sealed the deal.

Ojomo is an outlier who went largely unnoticed by coaches until late due to another "beaten-to-death" subject, his age. This allowed us to take his recruitment into the post-NSD1 period when we could put all hands on deck for the priority targets.

Carson and Williams were very nice gets, but they aren't necessarily a testament to our recruiting prowess, and aren't guys you should be viewing as the crown jewels of a class. On top of that they were both still being recruited past NSD1, which worked to our advantage. Even so...

Carrington closed on Carson, and it's a miracle we even got to that point given that Giles had little effect on that recruitment before NSD1.

Mike Williams was a late bloomer, and we benefited from Orgeron and his crew being asleep at the wheel. His best committable offer was... Tennessee in the midst of a coaching change? Kudos to the staff for finding him, but this is hardly the typical national (or even regional) recruiting battle on DL that we've been fighting and mostly losing. Jason Washington is also the area recruiter for Louisiana.

Edit: there are others who are far more knowledgeable about Giles in the Mack era than I am, so I'll pass on that particular topic.

Edited July 6, 2018 by Machinator

[nycHorn 2998]

How many F-treefiddys do we need to make this right?  About tree-fiddy?

[texifornia 56871]

1 minute ago, nycHorn said:

How many F-treefiddys do we need to make this right?  About tree-fiddy?

Just Marques Caldwell's if today is in fact the day

[TheOtherJamesBrown 5]

35 minutes ago, Cashdaddyblumpkins said:

For God's sake, can someone start a Giles thread? We don't need to do this every other day, at least not here.

Gotta get to 1000

[Katfid54 8620]

1 minute ago, TheOtherJamesBrown said:

Gotta get to 1000

[Tree Fidy 1175]

34 minutes ago, nycHorn said:

How many F-treefiddys do we need to make this right?  About tree-fiddy?

Reporting for duty Sir!

[Bevo 13570]

3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Oh yeah? Would a blowjob from Kate Beckinsale tickle your fancy too, Captain Obvious?

Yeah, I'd be good with that. I'm pretty sure I have an in so all I need to do is run it by the wife.

[utfan87 408]

1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Wish Orlando was the lead recruiter for a couple of these DL recruits.

Why because Linebacker recruiting has been so stellar? From everything I've heard Orlando isn't going to set the world on fire from a recruiting stand point either. Linebacker recruiting is a head scratcher too.