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10 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

There’s a difference between talking to trainers, inviting them to campus, kissing their ass and outright paying them to bring recruits to campus/sign.

In the purest, technical sense, the school isn't involved at all. It's a transaction between a booster and a "trainer" or "uncle" or whomever, and the player's family. The coaches tend to get involved in order to help target the cash flows more effectively? Is there more to it than that? I didn't completely understand what Freeze was doing, except that there was no reason he should have been in contact directly himself, other than acquiring some unauthorized french benefits. 

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7 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

In the purest, technical sense, the school isn't involved at all. It's a transaction between a booster and a "trainer" or "uncle" or whomever, and the player's family. The coaches tend to get involved in order to help target the cash flows more effectively? Is there more to it than that? I didn't completely understand what Freeze was doing, except that there was no reason he should have been in contact directly himself, other than acquiring some unauthorized french benefits. 

Freeze was an idiot. Used his own university-issued phone to make calls to escort services for recruits on visits. I mean come on.

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6 minutes ago, Caddox said:

Freeze is an absolute moron.

People that don’t think we play the game when the board is set up to our liking live in a fantasy world. 

We just don’t participate in some really gross stuff and it costs us recruits. I’m good with it but sometimes it hurts.

Yeah but he went to church every Sunday.

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Everybody is paying for players so we should —>

Technically this is against the rules so we’ll do it privately and indirectly —>

We will have to lie about what we are doing on any official or public disclosures —>

No thanks. I like watching guys who attend my alma mater win when they play certain games, but not enough that I can advocate lying, fraud, and surrendering to the travelers of the low road.

We don’t have to kill ourselves self-scouting for minor peccadilloes. But we should set a standard and expectation of integrity. If the rules of the game leave it ripe for abuse, advocate for change, live with the fact that aggy and his ilk lie and cheat, and/or start a new game (like when we founded the SWC). If I’m going to sacrifice principle to cheer for a winner, it would be simpler and faster just to cheer for Bama instead of TEXAS.

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59 minutes ago, utfan87 said:

Curious what were the red flags on herman before being hired? Gambler that liked to snort coke off of strippers?

Don't believe the Zach Smith accusations. Smith has thrown everything at Herman once he found out Tom and Michelle paid for his ex's attorney.  With how much Smith hates Herman if Smith could prove any of his accusations he would have by now.

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1 hour ago, Dog Zazz said:

Yeah but he went to church every Sunday.

So did Bowden and he ran as dirty a program as there ever was.  Not illegal, but I remember Janikowski had to be pulled out of Lafittes at 4am the night before the Sugar Bowl and the dirty Pol kicked a 60 yarder.  No way Bowden was suspending him.

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19 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

So did Bowden and he ran as dirty a program as there ever was.  Not illegal, but I remember Janikowski had to be pulled out of Lafittes at 4am the night before the Sugar Bowl and the dirty Pol kicked a 60 yarder.  No way Bowden was suspending him.

Don't forget Warrick and a certain incident at Dillard's: https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/08/sports/college-football-florida-state-s-warrick-is-suspended-after-an-arrest.html

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43 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Don't believe the Zach Smith accusations. Smith has thrown everything at Herman once he found out Tom and Michelle paid for his ex's attorney.  With how much Smith hates Herman if Smith could prove any of his accusations he would have by now.

I was worried he could drop something right before NSD, but now that's passed I think he just doesn't have anything. 

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9 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

I was worried he could drop something right before NSD, but now that's passed I think he just doesn't have anything. 

Not sure what else there is left in the arsenal once you talk about coke, strippers and massage parlors. Unless Herman literally was killing people I think Smith shot his wad there. Metaphorically speaking of course. 

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17 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

You’d think a trainer who claims repeatedly that he is only in this to help Texas athletes go to college would know who Baylor’s AD was.

Jackson is the “Associate AD for Compliance” so he’s not exactly wrong, and the full title is pretty wordy for a tweet.

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9 hours ago, utexas8 said:

 

What does remove the governor mean? The actual governor?

 

That’s what I never understood, Texas makes so much money but refuses to outbid like sanders.

That side side of recruiting does not happen the way you think it does.  Bama keeos getting #1 classes and I can guarantee the school is not writing checks to recruits.  

Now aggy would be dumb and desperate enough to do something like that, but Baggins has a lot of experience and he has people like Meemaw who organize boosters. 

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20 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

That side side of recruiting does not happen the way you think it does.  Bama keeos getting #1 classes and I can guarantee the school is not writing checks to recruits.  

Now aggy would be dumb and desperate enough to do something like that, but Baggins has a lot of experience and he has people like Meemaw who organize boosters. 

You are right. Alabama doesn't write checks. It leaves a paper trail.

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8 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

 

I think simplism starts with the facile cynicism that college football is just another business thus pragmatism should outweigh delusions of integrity. I think the whole thing is founded in the obsession in the fan base about winning a national championship that seems to be like a heroin addiction.

I don't want Texas sucking dicks beside a dumpster to attain that wonderful high. 

The response may be that we're already cutting a few corners in the gray areas. My answer remains the same.

I don't want Texas sucking dicks beside a dumpster to attain that wonderful high.

 

 

I'd be ok with you blowing a few hundred hobos if it meant national championships. 

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17 hours ago, Newy25 said:

Spare me the high road nonsense. The NCAA has defacto condoned payments to player’s families, their relatives and their trainers. We are like the car in the right lane going the exact speed limit while everyone else is going with the flow of traffic. We claim everyone else is dirty for payments but if it has become legalized, is it dirty? 

If the police office not only waves you by but gives you a trophy if you go 75 in a 65 are you even breaking the law anymore? 

After it became public that Auburn paid 6 figures for Cam Newton and the NCAA acknowledged it, all bets should have been off. It’s legal to pay players families now. If we are not giving money to FWK and we lose Shepherd it’s only our fault. Not anyone else’s. 

This is where I am.  If building a consistent championship roster requires 4 and 5 figure payments, everyone who wants to compete for championships is doing it, and there are no/minimal consequences for doing it...is it really cheating?

If Texas played the game as it has evolved, we'd be supplant Alabama as the premier football program in the country. 

 

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