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  On 1/11/2019 at 6:19 PM, pacman said:

You haven't seen him take a significant snap in a year. If our program is a grade above dog shit, he has improved enough to "contribute" if called upon. That's all I am saying.

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He played "significant" snaps against Maryland four months ago.  And he shit all over the bed.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 6:15 PM, Newy25 said:

Utah does not really have an open path to the starting job. They have an entrenched starter and they signed their best QB prospect in years in 2018. Their depth chart is no more open that ours. 

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Jason Shelley is ass my dude.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 6:19 PM, pacman said:

 If our program is a grade above dog shit, he has improved enough to "contribute" if called upon. 

 

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If our program is a grade above dog shit, then Kyle Porter will never see another carry in a meaningful situation. The only reason Porter would play is because we have done a shitty job of stocking the RB position the last 4 years. There's no coaching that magically makes Porter a good runner all of a sudden.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 6:29 PM, Katfid54 said:

He played "significant" snaps against Maryland four months ago.  And he shit all over the bed.

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he had 1 rushing attempt for 2 yards (went for a TD) - for comparison Watson had 12, Danny Young had 8, Ehlinger had 7, Ingram had 6 and Jamison had 2. Porter literally had the fewest rushing attempts of anyone on the team. 

he had 3 catches for 10 yards. 

those were his season stats. all in the Maryland game.

he didn't play "significant" snaps then. 

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  On 1/11/2019 at 6:40 PM, NoName said:

he had 1 rushing attempt for 2 yards (went for a TD) - for comparison Watson had 12, Danny Young had 8, Ehlinger had 7, Ingram had 6 and Jamison had 2. Porter literally had the fewest rushing attempts of anyone on the team. 

he had 3 catches for 10 yards. 

those were his season stats. all in the Maryland game.

he didn't play "significant" snaps then. 

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I think he was actually on the field many more times than he touched the ball. Part of the problem with Porter, if memory serves, was that he was great in pass pro, but sucked with the ball. When he was on the field, the defense didn’t respect him as a potential threat. He was either run blocking or picking up the pass rush. But he got snaps and tipped off the defense in the process, regrettably. 

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Porter can play on special teams and given we have no depth at RB, it would definitely be a positive development if he stays.    If we have injuries next year there are teams we can beat with Porter and he's always been pretty decent at picking up a blitz.

Is Jordan Moore a backup to Catalon or do we think he's a take as a transfer regardless?  Assuming Overshown stays we're pretty damn loaded at safety.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 7:25 PM, HenryJames said:

I'm thinking that throwing the ball three times to the running back on the final drive maybe isn't Porter's fault.

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Playcalling is definitely not on Porter.  But you'd hope your running back would give a little bit of fucking effort when his name is called.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 7:16 PM, Katfid54 said:

You're so extremely wrong it's not even funny.  Porter was on the field for our final drive of the game.  Here are three examples of him playing "significant" snaps and doing a really shitty job.

 

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It's the next play.  Texas still down five.  3rd & 13. 

Porter runs the same route.  He does a better job of not running himself out of bounds this time, and because of that, he's got a lot more space to work with when he gets the ball.  Texas needs a first down here.  But after making a pretty shitty attempt at a juke, Porter lets the first defender nudge him out of bounds.  What an absolutely shitpile play this is.  Basically the opposite of the LJH pass plays for 1 yard which turned into 15 yard gains because LJH didn't give up.  Porter surrenders himself, forcing us into a 4th and 5, instead of fighting for extra yardage which could have made converting much easier. 

Nevertheless, Sam comes back the next play and converts the fourth down like a fucking boss.

 

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Fighting for extra yards and getting tackled in bounds would have been a worse decision than going out - especially considering he had a DL, S, and DB all converging on him.  Clock was at 1:30 and Texas had no timeouts.

LJH can go hulk - he's 6'4" and 225 pounds.  Kyle Porter is 5'9" and 205 pounds.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 7:16 PM, Katfid54 said:

You're so extremely wrong it's not even funny.  Porter was on the field for our final drive of the game.  Here are three examples of him playing "significant" snaps and doing a really shitty job.

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So, yes.  Porter played "significant" snaps in the Maryland game.  And he totally shit the bed.

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that's fair, i would argue that there are scheme issues with having Kyle Porter on the field with the game on the line/in the 2 min offense - and with having Kyle Porter as part of your 5 wide package in general when his weaknesses are well known at this point in time but that's fair. 

i thought you meant significant snaps as in a large number. you meant significant snaps as in important, so that's my fault 

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The first and third play show his total ineffectiveness. The second play actually was the smart play. Was he supposed to try to fight up field against 3 defenders with 1:30 of clock time and no time outs?  Gain 1-2 yards, burn 25 seconds of clock? 

 

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blacklab please reign in these shit posters.  is it too much to ask to have informed and respectful discussion without going off on ridiculous tangents?  what’s wrong with you assholes?  grow up. 

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  On 1/11/2019 at 8:20 PM, Casual Encounter said:

Fuck you Katfid. I could have certainly lived without watching three clips of Kyle Porter being used as our savior against the mighty turtles.

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Yeah, but it sure shut up the parade of posters who were saying we should be trying to bring back Kyle Porter next year.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 8:21 PM, Katfid54 said:

Yeah, but it sure shut up the parade of posters who were saying we should be trying to bring back Kyle Porter next year.

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We should bring back Kyle Porter next year. We need the depth. Derrian "Jim" Brown can't be expected to take all 80 or so snaps a game, despite his alleged immortality and ability to wield Mjolnir. 

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I hope we see lots of Kyle Porter next season because we are so far ahead we have put in all the backups.

I know that is highly unlikely to happen based on what happened last year but it is nice to hope.

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Kirko get carries in 2019?  He looked good on the handful of plays when he was a freshman.  Maybe he's the "in case of emergency break glass" back for when everyone else is injured.  Two coaches have to turn keys simultaneously to open the vault where his helmet is held.  I understand we were never in a position to get guys like 5th string backs playing time this year but who knows what 2019 will bring.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 8:30 PM, Lhorn said:

Kirko get carries in 2019?  He looked good on the handful of plays when he was a freshman.  Maybe he's the "in case of emergency break glass" back for when everyone else is injured.  Two coaches have to turn keys simultaneously to open the vault where his helmet is held.  I understand we were never in a position to get guys like 5th string backs playing time this year but who knows what 2019 will bring.

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When he sneezes, alert the training staff and book the imaging center for an MRI.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 8:30 PM, Lhorn said:

Kirko get carries in 2019?  He looked good on the handful of plays when he was a freshman.  Maybe he's the "in case of emergency break glass" back for when everyone else is injured.  Two coaches have to turn keys simultaneously to open the vault where his helmet is held.  I understand we were never in a position to get guys like 5th string backs playing time this year but who knows what 2019 will bring.

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In your emergency scenario, kirko is the glass that you break. 

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Wells:

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TFloss (Shepherd, Catalon, Georgia DE, OL Grad Transfer)

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  On 1/11/2019 at 8:57 PM, NoName said:

TFloss (Shepherd, Catalon, Georgia DE, OL Grad Transfer)

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4 star WDE - Texas would be his biggest offer

https://247sports.com/Player/JaDarien-Boykin-46053175/

 

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I actually was not trying to be facetious.  Reminds me of EF--looks to be a great pass-rusher.  But appears to be undersized for a hand-in-the-dirt DL (especially in Orlando's 4i system).  Might have a future as a B-backer, though.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 9:08 PM, Katfid54 said:

I actually was not trying to be facetious.  Reminds me of EF--looks to be a great pass-rusher.  But appears to be undersized for a hand-in-the-dirt DL (especially in Orlando's 4i system).  Might have a future as a B-backer, though.

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  On 1/11/2019 at 9:08 PM, Katfid54 said:

I actually was not trying to be facetious.  Reminds me of EF--looks to be a great pass-rusher.  But appears to be undersized for a hand-in-the-dirt DL (especially in Orlando's 4i system).  Might have a future as a B-backer, though.

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fuck you

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  On 1/11/2019 at 8:57 PM, NoName said:

TFloss (Shepherd, Catalon, Georgia DE, OL Grad Transfer)

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@closetojumping

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