5 HPD Officers Shot

[Lat22 4015]

I'm sure the cop killer would have complied with a law that said he couldn't have a gun.  Sure thing Art.

[Cajun 11714]

Fuck you Art.

You hypocritical waste of oxygen.

[bernorange 8362]

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[Viper 12109]

How Goines' story unraveled, and how his history reflects very poorly on HPD.

https://reason.com/2019/12/09/handwritten-notes-document-the-collapse-of-the-phony-story-that-led-to-a-deadly-houston-drug-raid/

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 "How do you reassure the public something like this isn't going to happen again?" a reporter asked Acevedo on the day the federal indictment was unsealed. His response was revealing:

Police officers have been engaged in misconduct since the advent of time. Human beings have been sinning since…the days of Adam and Eve, right? I mean, we're imperfect beings. I can't guarantee that nothing will ever happen again….What I can guarantee is that, number one, we will continue to be vigilant in our processes and our systems and our audits….We will always ask the tough questions when we take a life. What I can tell you is that the chances of this being systemic are not going to happen because of the processes in the systems that we have in time. But at the end of the day, there is an element of trust when you have employees….No matter what systems or processes are in place, there is no such thing as 100-percent fail-proof process.

Acevedo says "we will continue to be vigilant in our processes and our systems and our audits," which implies that the Houston Police Department already was vigilant about potential abuses by narcotics officers. Yet the Chronicle found that the Narcotics Division had gone two decades without an audit. It also found that, despite an expert consensus that undercover officers should be frequently rotated to other assignments, 71 officers have served a decade or more in the Narcotics Division. Michael Doyle, a lawyer hired by Nicholas' family, says supervisors let the raid go forward even though they knew Goines had not properly documented his contact with the informant he described. Goines' belief that he could get away with inventing a drug purchase by a nonexistent informant does not speak well of the HPD's "processes."

 

Edited December 10, 2019 by Viper

[huge 3793]

This lack of self awareness is......not surprising.

[Armybrat 40851]

11 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Houston police chief rips 'smug' Cruz and McConnell, who 'don’t want to piss off the NRA

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/09/houston-police-chief-mitch-mcconnell-ted-cruz-gun-laws-nra

Uh, Art.  About that gun violence...

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/deadly-Houston-misconduct-botched-raid-police-14850548.php

Violence Against Women Act?

I thought Acevedo said we had rape kits to take care of that.

[Reagan1k 3024]

I'd love to see Goines' gun collection - 

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Goines obtained nearly 100 no-knock warrants like the one used in this case, almost always claiming that informants had seen firearms in the homes he wanted to search. But he reported recovering guns only once, a pattern no one seems to have noticed.

Odds are better to win the lottery multiple times than to find 99% of the homes you search in Houston are absent a firearm.

[Cajun 11714]

Art calling someone else "smug"?

Rich

[Cajun 11714]

The day we can write in "Acevedo" for "Goines" will be such a sweet day...

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Goines stood still, his eyes angled downward toward court paperwork arrayed on a table in front of him. When he spoke, he was barely audible. At one point, the magistrate asked if he understood he had a right to remain silent. He responded inaudibly.

“You have to say it out loud,” the judge said.

“Yes I do,” he said, hoarsely.

 

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

"How do you reassure the public something like this isn't going to happen again?" a reporter asked Acevedo on the day the federal indictment was unsealed.

 

Should be:

"How do you reassure the public something like this isn't happening all the fucking time you POS?" a reporter asked Acevedo on the day the federal indictment was unsealed.

 

Rogue cops killing, robbing, possessing drugs, possessing stolen guns, lying, on and on. HPD needs to clean house, top to bottom. Call in the national guard to police the streets and the FBI to handle the investigating until an entirely new police force is trained and hired.

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

48 minutes ago, Cajun said:

The day we can write in "Acevedo" for "Goines" will be such a sweet day...

 

 

This Goines fucker knows he is so fucked. Prison will not be kind to Officer Goines.

[Cajun 11714]

Well deserved

[Iceman 2719]

1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

"How do you reassure the public something like this isn't going to happen again?" a reporter asked Acevedo on the day the federal indictment was unsealed.

 

Should be:

"How do you reassure the public something like this isn't happening all the fucking time you POS?" a reporter asked Acevedo on the day the federal indictment was unsealed.

 

Rogue cops killing, robbing, possessing drugs, possessing stolen guns, lying, on and on. HPD needs to clean house, top to bottom. Call in the national guard to police the streets and the FBI to handle the investigating until an entirely new police force is trained and hired.

Question remains, when there are multiple levels of ‘failure’ or ‘cooperation ‘ required, how rogue an individual is.

Acevedo gets paid for more than speaking to the media.  IMHO, he should own this, as should the other leaders within the department.

By owning, I mean facing prison time for conspiracy to commit murder.

[PilotsError 2296]

Handwritten Notes Document the Collapse of the Phony Story That Led to a Deadly Houston Drug Raid

 

A veteran Houston narcotics officer's handwritten responses to questions from internal investigators document the unraveling of the story he concocted to obtain the warrant for a no-knock drug raid that killed a middle-aged couple last January. "I screw[ed] up," Gerald Goines, who was shot in the face during the raid, wrote as he lay in a hospital bed, "because I made a buy without the correct man power there."

Inadequate manpower was the least of the problems with Goines' investigation of Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas, which the Justice Department says was based on a false tip from a neighbor. Goines, who faces state murder charges and federal civil rights charges as a result of the deadly raid, claimed in his search warrant affidavit that a confidential informant had bought heroin from a middle-aged "white male, whose name is unknown," at the house on Harding Street where Tuttle and Nicholas lived. After the raid, which found no evidence of drug dealing, Goines could not identify an informant who would confirm that story.

In the handwritten notes, which were obtained by KPRC, the NBC station in Houston, Goines finally fesses up, sort of. "What is the name of your C.I. [confidential informant] that you used for 7815 Harding?" the investigators ask. "Gerald Goines," he replies. "There was no confidential informant….I made the purchase myself. I was looking to buy from a female. I bought from the male. I had info regarding people at the residence. I'm not sure if the guy I bought from was the male listed in info."

That "info," according to a federal indictment unsealed last month, was fabricated by Patricia Garcia, who lived across the street and described Tuttle and Nicholas as armed and dangerous drug dealers in telephone conversations with police on January 8. Although Goines supposedly investigated that tip for two weeks, he does not seem to have known the names of the purported drug dealers and, by his own account, did not know what Tuttle looked like. But that did not really matter, because the heroin purchase he said he made never happened, according to the indictment.

Goines also admitted to investigators that Steven Bryant, the narcotics officer he claimed had confirmed that the "brown powder substance" supposedly purchased at 7815 Harding Street was black-tar heroin, never saw the alleged contraband. "Officer Bryant never observe[d] the narcotic which was purchase[d] from the residence," Goines wrote. "I placed that statement in the [affidavit]." Bryant, who like Goines retired after the raid, faces state and federal charges for backing up Goines' fictional narrative.

In his written responses, Goines said he bought "two small baggies" of a "powdery substance" from the unidentified white male on the evening before the raid, and he was sure the man "would still be in possession" when police searched the home. But the only drugs that police found in the house were personal-use quantities of marijuana and cocaine. In his affidavit, Goines also claimed that his informant had seen "a semi-auto hand gun of a 9mm caliber" in the house; no such weapon was recovered.

All of this makes you wonder what Goines' plan was. Had he not been shot during the raid he engineered, would he have planted the heroin and the gun he had described in his affidavit? Goines' expectation that his fabrications would go undetected does not reflect well on the alertness and integrity of his colleagues and supervisors. As it turned out, Bryant did cover for Goines, confirming his own role in the transaction that Goines invented.

If the raid had not ended so disastrously, Goines might very well have succeeded in framing Tuttle and Nicholas. He had a history of mishandling evidence and making dubious statements under oath. Over 12 years, The Houston Chronicle found, Goines obtained nearly 100 no-knock warrants like the one used in this case, almost always claiming that informants had seen firearms in the homes he wanted to search. But he reported recovering guns only once, a pattern no one seems to have noticed.

That track record, combined with the loose supervision that allowed this operation to unfold as it did, suggests that imposing limits on no-knock raids and finally requiring narcotics officers to wear body cameras when they execute search warrants—two reforms that Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo instituted in response to this scandal—do not go far enough to root out the problems in the Narcotics Division. "How do you reassure the public something like this isn't going to happen again?" a reporter asked Acevedo on the day the federal indictment was unsealed. His response was revealing:

Police officers have been engaged in misconduct since the advent of time. Human beings have been sinning since…the days of Adam and Eve, right? I mean, we're imperfect beings. I can't guarantee that nothing will ever happen again….What I can guarantee is that, number one, we will continue to be vigilant in our processes and our systems and our audits….We will always ask the tough questions when we take a life. What I can tell you is that the chances of this being systemic are not going to happen because of the processes in the systems that we have in time. But at the end of the day, there is an element of trust when you have employees….No matter what systems or processes are in place, there is no such thing as 100-percent fail-proof process.

Acevedo says "we will continue to be vigilant in our processes and our systems and our audits," which implies that the Houston Police Department already was vigilant about potential abuses by narcotics officers. Yet the Chronicle found that the Narcotics Division had gone two decades without an audit. It also found that, despite an expert consensus that undercover officers should be frequently rotated to other assignments, 71 officers have served a decade or more in the Narcotics Division. Michael Doyle, a lawyer hired by Nicholas' family, says supervisors let the raid go forward even though they knew Goines had not properly documented his contact with the informant he described. Goines' belief that he could get away with inventing a drug purchase by a nonexistent informant does not speak well of the HPD's "processes."

Acevedo puts "the chances of this being systemic" at zero, even as he concedes that something like this is bound to happen again. In the face of a scandal that should make all Houstonians worry about the security of their constitutional rights, Acevedo's observations about the fallen nature of humanity are hardly reassuring.

https://reason.com/2019/12/09/handwritten-notes-document-the-collapse-of-the-phony-story-that-led-to-a-deadly-houston-drug-raid/

[Armybrat 40851]

The governor of Florida fired the Broward County sheriff for his incompetence & belligerent covering (blaming the NRA) of his underlings’ malfeasance in the wake of the Overland Park high school massacre.
Just sayin’

Edited December 10, 2019 by Armybrat

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

6 hours ago, Cajun said:

At one point, the magistrate asked if he understood he had a right to remain silent. He responded inaudibly.

“You have to say it out loud,” the judge said.

“Yes I do,” he said, hoarsely.

sounds like he understood it better than the judge.

 

7 hours ago, Reagan1k said:

Goines obtained nearly 100 no-knock warrants like the one used in this case, almost always claiming that informants had seen firearms in the homes he wanted to search. But he reported recovering guns only once, a pattern no one seems to have noticed.

this is . . . uh . . indescribably damming.

 

 

[hayden_horn 11362]

Just now, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

sounds like he understood it better than the judge.

 

this is . . . uh . . indescribably damming.

 

 

that's an indictment of the entire narco team, if not the department as a whole.

i mean, you have to go back and review all 100ish of these warrants for malfeasance, right? how many fucking innocent people are in prison or have gone to prison because of this lying ratfucker?

[Brisketexan 105158]

18 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

that's an indictment of the entire narco team, if not the department as a whole.

i mean, you have to go back and review all 100ish of these warrants for malfeasance, right? how many fucking innocent people are in prison or have gone to prison because of this lying ratfucker?

Ummmm.....all of them?  Isn't that the assumption here?  Seriously, how can any case that depended on his credibility as a witness stand?

[huge 3793]

https://www.khou.com/mobile/article/news/local/houston-police-union-responds-to-chiefs-comments-about-senators-and-nra/285-75573459-99f3-429f-ac3b-1b96c5fc6e3e

And now this

This is like when OU plays aTm?

And what strange bedfellows.

[Brisketexan 105158]

https://www.khou.com/mobile/article/news/local/houston-police-union-responds-to-chiefs-comments-about-senators-and-nra/285-75573459-99f3-429f-ac3b-1b96c5fc6e3e

And now this

This is like when OU plays aTm?

And what strange bedfellows.

Really? The police union that ranted about all of is dirt bags who bear the blame for their cops getting shot when [checks notes] it was on a botched raid set up by one of their own who lied out his ass? THAT police union? Yeah....they can go fuck themselves with one of Goines’ throw down guns.

[Viper 12109]

I say Art is looking to get into politics before he gets forced to retire from HPD

[Pam Cummings 9645]

8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Really? The police union that ranted about all of is dirt bags who bear the blame for their cops getting shot when [checks notes] it was on a botched raid set up by one of their own who lied out his ass? THAT police union? Yeah....they can go fuck themselves with one of Goines’ throw down guns.

I'm offended by their statement, personally.

[Murfdogg21 4413]

Finders keepers, no take backs on Art, Houston fam. May we also interest you in a mayor and some city council people?

[Guest Lobo]

 Can we do that?  Can we trade Adler, Kitchen, and Casar for whomever is in charge of Houston parking meters?  

No?  Okay, then we'll take Danny Noonan. 

[El Diablo 4232]

With the 13th pick in the 2020 Corrupt City Officials draft, Austin Texas selects.....

[irishtexan 11521]

I just got a "Blue Alert" for the first time on my phone. Apparently we're all supposed to keep an eye out for a suspect that killed an officer in Harris County. 

It's fucking weird that they're treating this the same way we get Amber Alerts on our phones. Apparently cop lives are more valuable than citizen lives. 

[TornACL 7715]

Just now, irishtexan said:

I just got a "Blue Alert" for the first time on my phone. Apparently we're all supposed to keep an eye out for a suspect that killed an officer in Harris County. 

It's fucking weird that they're treating this the same way we get Amber Alerts on our phones. Apparently cop lives are more valuable than citizen lives. 

A blue alert should be designated whenever a cop blows away a civilian. Although everyone would get really irritated at their phones going off daily.

 

[Brisketexan 105158]

2 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

Apparently cop lives are more valuable than citizen lives. 

And don't you forget it, peon.

[hayden_horn 11362]

20 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

I just got a "Blue Alert" for the first time on my phone. Apparently we're all supposed to keep an eye out for a suspect that killed an officer in Harris County. 

It's fucking weird that they're treating this the same way we get Amber Alerts on our phones. Apparently cop lives are more valuable than citizen lives. 

yeah, i just got it too, and found it somewhat curious. i had to google it, because the link in the alert was broken.

[Hawndoh 2386]

Is there an incel alert for school shootings and the like?

[Telegraph_it 3358]

There is a damn Ring Alert for every "suspicious" looking car. 

[Iceman 2719]

1 hour ago, irishtexan said:

I just got a "Blue Alert" for the first time on my phone. Apparently we're all supposed to keep an eye out for a suspect that killed an officer in Harris County. 

It's fucking weird that they're treating this the same way we get Amber Alerts on our phones. Apparently cop lives are more valuable than citizen lives. 

 Regarding this thread, a blue alert should indicate that the cops are headed to your house… 

[The University 851]

15 hours ago, irishtexan said:

I just got a "Blue Alert" for the first time on my phone. Apparently we're all supposed to keep an eye out for a suspect that killed an officer in Harris County. 

It's fucking weird that they're treating this the same way we get Amber Alerts on our phones. Apparently cop lives are more valuable than citizen lives. 

this is what makes people do whatever they can to turn off *all* alerts. 

[Fuck Tim Beck 3834]

1 hour ago, The University said:

this is what makes people do whatever they can to turn off *all* alerts. 

This. I got two blue alerts yesterday. The first one, then one issued by HPD on behalf of whoever the original one came from. Again I say fuck you Art.

[Viper 12109]

I haven't gotten any, wonder why? because I bought my phone unlocked with no carrier software? or because I technically live outside of city limits I guess?

[Guest Lobo]

We got the alerts all day yesterday in Austin.  Starting around 3:00p.  Sadly, I did not find the guy on camps.  

Hasn't the rationale always been that cop killers take priority over regular killers because anyone dumb enough to kill a cop is a more serious public safety risk than your run of the mill murderer (by the way, I agree with this reasoning)???

Then let's take a look at that human shield incident on the other thread.....

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4976]

At this point it seems like cops are more dangerous than the average run of the mill murderer.

[Fuck Tim Beck 3834]

4 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

At this point it seems like cops are more dangerous than the average run of the mill murderer.

Absolutely. They have the means and training to frame civilians 

[hayden_horn 11362]

1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

At this point it seems like cops are more dangerous than the average run of the mill murderer.

 

[irishtexan 11521]

we don't have alerts for school shootings but we do when cops get shot at.

 

[irishtexan 11521]

dp

Edited December 12, 2019 by irishtexan

[gsoda3 3263]

had no idea what a blue alert was yesterday when it hit my phone.  told my kids a smurf had been kidnapped.

[Huckleberry 33003]

I never got one, so is it a city limits thing? I live and work in the Houston area but outside of the city limits (both home and office) and have a 512 cell phone.

I mean I'm not complaining, of course, just curious.

[Orange&White 5528]

It's not a city limits thing because we got them in Austin.

[Viper 12109]

15 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

It's not a city limits thing because we got them in Austin.

for HPD?!?

[Guest Lobo]

Yep, wife and I both have 512 numbers and reside in the city limits of Austin, and our phones have been blowing up with these alerts for going on 24hrs. 

[Zepol87 9188]

Got it in Dallas also. Never heard of a blue alert

[Brisketexan 105158]

9 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

Got it in Dallas also. Never heard of a blue alert

[Brothahorn 10087]

On 12/11/2019 at 7:10 AM, Viper said:

I say Art is looking to get into politics before he gets forced to retire from HPD

Fuck Art. I will move back to Houston proper, just to vote against him. Even if his opponent is SJL.

[Surly Bevo 25054]

I live in Tarrant County with a 214 area code. I’ve gotten that Blue Alert shit 4 times including 2am last night.

Fuck that