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bad_teammate

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There will likely be a slate of independent/third party candidates who want to run in 2020.

First up, attacking the "center", is billionaire Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks.

Schultz is kicking off his campaign on Gwyneth Paltrow's GOOP Podcast. (If you don't know what that is, and you make over $200k/yr, ask your wife. If you're a poor, then be content to know that it's just InfoWars for basic bitc... women.)

The entire description of the podcast makes me want to shit a river of blood. I would quote my favorite parts, but the whole thing is a nightmare from beginning to end.

Howard Schultz, former Starbucks chairman and CEO, sits down in a New York City café with GP. Schultz, the author of the new book From the Ground Up, tells stories about the time Starbucks almost slipped away from him and about a moment that gave him a sense of spirituality. They talk about profit and conscience. About building a business with a core purpose in the midst of conflict. And about what Schultz calls “servant leadership,” or recognizing that almost everything in life is a team sport. They talk about the country—about the American dream, political challenges, and where we might go from here. And of course, they swap coffee routines.

Schultz's primary concern is a leftward push from the Democratic Party. He's garbage and I hope a driverless Tesla has a "programming error" near him as he's walking.

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I can't wait to see this fucking cretin's platform.

lol it's going well for him at a book signing

hell yes his one policy platform, "LEAVE THE BILLIONAIRES ALONE!"

This one has Anastasis and Cookie on Death-By-Boner watch

 

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I would love it if Tucker Carlson ran 3rd Party or more realistically in 2024 for the GOP. I think he presents a coherent platform that would be very attractive. I’d volunteer for his campaign.

As for Starbucks Schultz, isn’t he the reason the Sonics moved to OKC?

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7 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

I would love it if Tucker Carlson ran 3rd Party or more realistically in 2024 for the GOP. I think he presents a coherent platform that would be very attractive. I’d volunteer for his campaign.

As for Starbucks Schultz, isn’t he the reason the Sonics moved to OKC?

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30 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

I would love it if Tucker Carlson ran 3rd Party or more realistically in 2024 for the GOP. I think he presents a coherent platform that would be very attractive. I’d volunteer for his campaign.

And that's why you're an idiot.

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12 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Isn’t it just like billionaires to run as independents?

Perot, Forbes, Schultz 

Always trying to cheat the system and play by a different set of rules.

Fuck these people 

It's not cheating the system, this is a consequence of the two party system. Only billionaires can afford to run outside of the RNC/DNC. Everyone else has to use insurgent tactics within one of the major parties or run as a 3rd party but then people like you accuse them of being Russian agents.

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33 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I’m predisposed to dislike him for obvious reasons but the fact that he chose fucking Gwyneth Paltrow and GOOP as his launching pad makes me actively HATE him.

GP is the ultimate BEC and GOOP is literally worse than Hitler.

Fuck him. Fuck her. And fuck GOOP.

Goop is God’s gift to those with really dirty hands.   

Fuck Paltrow for trying to appropriate our cleansing agents.  

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5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

You know you're destined for greatness when everyone hates you immediately

Yeah, I had no idea there was such a grassroots groundswell of support for Howard Fucking Schultz to be the next President of the United States. Man, I must really be living under a rock. Truly, the audacity of some rich smug asshole to think "I got this. I'm qualified." coming on the tails of Donald Fucking Trump is beyond the pale and just shows how out of touch he is with the electorate.

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27 minutes ago, F250 said:

It's not cheating the system, this is a consequence of the two party system. Only billionaires can afford to run outside of the RNC/DNC. Everyone else has to use insurgent tactics within one of the major parties or run as a 3rd party but then people like you accuse them of being Russian agents.

Sometimes they are Russian agents.  Just saying.  

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9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Probably makes him the best candidate to announce so far. 

Disagree. It's an indication of how poorly he's judged the situation in this country. No one was asking for America's head barista to become POTUS.  

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1 hour ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

I would love it if Tucker Carlson ran 3rd Party or more realistically in 2024 for the GOP. I think he presents a coherent platform that would be very attractive. I’d volunteer for his campaign.

As for Starbucks Schultz, isn’t he the reason the Sonics moved to OKC?

You have bad judgement. Piss poor.

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1 hour ago, F250 said:

It's not cheating the system, this is a consequence of the two party system. Only billionaires can afford to run outside of the RNC/DNC.

If we had a no party system, only billionaires could run.  It’s not the two party system.  It’s that no one has inspired a legitimate sustained grassroots 3rd party movement to overtake one of the existing parties.  I recognize there are structural reasons for that but we’ve had plenty of 3rd parties compete in American history and sometimes they’ve ousted a major party.

Billionaire independents cheat the existing system by circumventing the part where they have to develop a legitimate movement/following to get on the ballot.  They get to buy their way in our elections instead of going through a normal democratic process of the party selection and earning the opportunity. 

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Howard Shultz is an attractive candidate and one I'd definitely vote for. No BS, no joking around, nothing. He is the personification of huge brained centrist, which I love. 

The fact that Luke Crywalkers in [Enter Clever name] local bookstore are sad and heckling and thinks that Shultz will help re-elect Trump shows you that there is an unfulfilled need/market for what Shultz is representing. How about make your party more attractive and do better to win an election instead of trying to shout down someone with a valid platform and good ideas? How un-democratic is that?

What are his good ideas?

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6 minutes ago, Skinny Tie said:

Well you get the Russian puppet who depends on socialized medicine now. Libertarians need to have that moment where they realize their ideology is not compatible w the real world

Says the millennial democratic socialist with absolutely no self awareness. 

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43 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

If we had a no party system, only billionaires could run.  It’s not the two party system.  It’s that no one has inspired a legitimate sustained grassroots 3rd party movement to overtake one of the existing parties.  I recognize there are structural reasons for that but we’ve had plenty of 3rd parties compete in American history and sometimes they’ve ousted a major party.

Billionaire independents cheat the existing system by circumventing the part where they have to develop a legitimate movement/following to get on the ballot.  They get to buy their way in our elections instead of going through a normal democratic process of the party selection and earning the opportunity. 

Whig Party talk not going away.

Once again, it's not cheating the system, it's how the system is set up. Shit, a rich New Yorker named Teddy Roosevelt pulled this stunt over 100 years ago.

The moose out front should have told you.

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2 hours ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

I would love it if Tucker Carlson ran 3rd Party or more realistically in 2024 for the GOP. I think he presents a coherent platform that would be very attractive. I’d volunteer for his campaign.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Haven't we had enough teevee imbeciles in the White House for one lifetime? 

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16 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

For one, "M4A is untenable / un-workable". 

Reasonable Immigration reform, but not insane ideas on either side of the spectrum.

A heart for poor people and outrageous costs of schools and real estate, but nothing insane like free college for all and raise taxes for free apartments or whatever else insane people want.

Nonsense.

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25 minutes ago, F250 said:

Whig Party talk not going away.

Once again, it's not cheating the system, it's how the system is set up. Shit, a rich New Yorker named Teddy Roosevelt pulled this stunt over 100 years ago.

The moose out front should have told you.

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Teddy was ostracized by the Republicans due to ideology.  He took his ideas and formed his own party.  That’s how movements get started.  It’s not the same as billionaire coffee boy not even trying to work within the parties.

Schultz isn’t trying to start a movement and he doesn’t have much of an ideology from what I see except “not dem, not trump”.  He’s an opportunist.

However, I actually think there is room in America for a centrist party.   You just need the right people to come together and organize it.  Some centrist republicans and democrats get together with the financial support of a Bill Gates type and layout a core party ideology that distinguishes themselves from Trumpism and Progressives. 

I think that would be attractive to a good section of America.

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42 minutes ago, Skinny Tie said:

Have you read more than one book? Your obsession w this idiot is hilarious.

I have been a fan of his since his bow tie days. He has the right message when it comes to curbing illegal immigration and he hates neocons just like me. I was a Pat Buchanan supporter when I was in college when he was considered fringe. His views are finally ascendant in the GOP. Tucker can help kill Bush/Romney wing of the GOP once and for all. If I was going to start a 3rd party, I’d get guys like Nigel Farage, Geert Wilders, Raheem Hassan and others I respect and admire to create a working class based party that would hammer home the need to curb immigration sharply in exchange for things like a public buy in health insurance option , better wages and better social cohesion. Need an articulate voice like Tucker to make it happen. Can’t have free health care with a horde of illegals. It’s one or the other.

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50 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Teddy was ostracized by the Republicans due to ideology.  He took his ideas and formed his own party.  That’s how movements get started.  It’s not the same as billionaire coffee boy not even trying to work within the parties.

He was a Roosevelt, he was an elite. Billionaires didn't exist back then, so no he wasn't a billionaire. However, he was a member of the same class current billionaires belong to.

My point, the two party system has always allowed for the 1% to run as independents.

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