If BaD Radio isn't on from 3-7 p.m. ...

[mdmost 43050]

39 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

I wonder what competing digital interests they wanted to pursue were enough to tank everything? Is this about owning your own IP? Weren’t Dan and Jake just talking about defector media’s stance on this about a month ago? 

Someone on either Reddit or My Ticket Confessions mentioned Dan and Jake being tight with Bryan Curtis of The Ringer. Jake writes for the Ringer so maybe they're looking at something digital with that? I guess IJB has been getting us ready for this all these years. I'm just curious why Dan would do it but I'd suspect it has something to do with the idea that he would be asked to do 5 hours for around the same pay as before. If we think back to when Danny left, he mentioned being asked to do all this extra stuff like being a 3rd host for the same amount of money. 

https://www.theringer.com/pages/podcasts

Edited July 18, 2023 by mdmost

[NWAustinDude 2252]

And now, Work In Progress presents, why today doesn't suck. With your host, Justin Montemayor.

Edited July 18, 2023 by NWAustinDude

[LonghornSean 4023]

As a regular listener of multiple  podcasts at The Ringer, it would be cool to see them surface there. But that seems a bit too big/national for it to make a whole lot of sense, or where they would make more money.

Edited July 18, 2023 by LonghornSean

[C-Man 27262]

Good bye, Line 4 Guy

[nolongerU2horn 767]

Jake does not write for The Ringer

[Skipper 6200]

3 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

Oh well they’re gone. Dont give a shit really. It’s a nonevent. If true they pulled the pin on themselves. Taking a hard stance in this day in the radio bidness just isn’t a strong position for 99.5% of radio personalities.

Nonevent? Totally disagree with that take.   I personally rarely tuned in live given the window due to work but listened to almost all their available segments on sportsday app during morning dog walk daily.  I'll still listen on the commute but that probably knocks the app out for me all together.  Jake was, for me at least, probably top overall host and certainly from a sports talk perspective.  I think it's a huge loss for the station.

[mdmost 43050]

So this is interesting if it's accurate. Sounds a little special exemption Gordo. Does the Freak let their people monetize the podcasts. I've never listened to a Freak podcast. Does it include ads? I can see why Cumulus might've said no to their demands. Got this from My Ticket Confessions:

Ok my phone is blowing up so let me fill in what I know. I’m friends with a couple of the ticket sales reps, so here’s what I’m told: As the Bennett email said, it’s been in negotiations which is why this has been so flying by the seat of the pants. I’m told THZ was expected back after their vacation and decided to hold out while negotiations continued. That’s when we started getting rotten radio, replays, etc as they scrambled to fill what they didn’t know they needed to fill. I’m told there’s verbiage about it broke down over competing interests. I believe Dan and Jake wanted to do whole show podcasts a la the Freak and monetize them for themselves. Cumulus didn’t want full show podcasts ( arguably understandable, those don’t register in the ratings like signal or stream, so cannabilizes your own audience). Cumulus also wouldn’t go for letting them monetize it themselves as THZ could sell a sponsorship to the podcast undercutting their sales to a client. Why pay market rate to Cumulus when you could sell a cheaper side deal with THZ? If those stories are correct (and again, this is what I’m told, not first hand knowledge) I understand Cumulus not wanting to set a precedent. More on the fallout after this break…

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Nonevent? Totally disagree with that take.   I personally rarely tuned in live given the window due to work but listened to almost all their available segments on sportsday app during morning dog walk daily.  I'll still listen on the commute but that probably knocks the app out for me all together.  Jake was, for me at least, probably top overall host and certainly from a sports talk perspective.  I think it's a huge loss for the station.

It’s a huge loss. The guy you’re quoting was diagnosed as a mongoloid when he was 5. Don’t quote him. 

[HRSchenker 2273]

Hang Zone to the Ringer sounds like a huge downgrade so I call bullshit on that. 

[Skipper 6200]

The Cumulus position seems reasonable on not allowing separate monetization seems reasonable in a vacuum but we obviously don't know the base salary offer and how that compares with the other top hosts.  If they were trying to do something on the side to make them whole (relatively compared to their peers) I get it.  It's a big risk for them obviously.  But I'll probably listen to anything Jake puts out.  Huge blow for the big events and frankly just for football season.  Jake's college football takes were pretty much the only ones I can even stand to listen to.

[Surly Bevo 25152]

This website is the only place that has skewered Baker Mayfield longer and harder than Jake Kemp has....for that alone he's a good.  The fact he has a fairly deep sports knowledge AND actually gets what Dan is doing makes them a better paring than Bob and Dan.   

Edited July 18, 2023 by Surly Bevo

[Hermanator 7174]

What would the Hang Zone do on the Ringer? They're regional to DFW so unless the Ringer thinks strongly they would blow up nationally over time that seems like a bit of a risk for the pay they would ask. 

[mdmost 43050]

9 minutes ago, Skipper said:

The Cumulus position seems reasonable on not allowing separate monetization seems reasonable in a vacuum but we obviously don't know the base salary offer and how that compares with the other top hosts.  If they were trying to do something on the side to make them whole (relatively compared to their peers) I get it.  It's a big risk for them obviously.  But I'll probably listen to anything Jake puts out.  Huge blow for the big events and frankly just for football season.  Jake's college football takes were pretty much the only ones I can even stand to listen to.

I don't see how Dan survives without his daily 3 squares from Eatzi's. That most certainly dries up. 

[Surly Bevo 25152]

I think the local/national thing is a bit overrated.  They cover sports, but they are not on a "beat" or anything.  I'm pretty sure if they can spend time analyzing all the dumbass things Jerry says and does they can do likewise with all the other dumbasses.  

They could also go their separate ways.  Not exactly at the same point in life.  Dan in particular has a lot less to tie him to DFW these days with all his kids pretty much grown.  

Edited July 18, 2023 by Surly Bevo

[mdmost 43050]

So I bet Gordo's happy that he can home after the show on Tuesdays now. 

[Longhornstampede 3186]

5 hours ago, Hermanator said:

 

Just kidding the announcement is Rhyner is going to be ah grand dad. So exciting

I'm sure we'll get a list of his top ten baby bottles... 

Edited July 18, 2023 by Longhornstampede

[futureman 22545]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Sounds a little special exemption Gordo.

unless gordo is lying he isn’t making any money off his twitch subscribers.  that all goes to At Last Boarding.  he also isn’t selling advertising.  not sure how any of it applies to gordo.  good take, though. 

[futureman 22545]

those dumb pieces of shit are gonna regret this.  the ticket is an amazing anomaly.  they will drift away into obscurity now.  assholes. 

[RPM 26354]

They're still running Hang Zone promos for Oxnard.

[NoName 16406]

i'll believe that email is official the day they announce they are going to wait out a 6 mo noncompete and announce where they are going - not a day sooner. i'd think we would have some info on it by now or some collaboration on it if it had gone out to any number of ticket staff. even more screenshots from different email programs or with a light background...but we don't.

 

from MTC comments:

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Detty on Top 10 about 15 minutes ago “The invasion in all this week at midday”

 

[BigDHornfan 6550]

From reddit:
The Musers opened with “Band of Gold” this morning. Google lyrics if you’re not familiar. Ill winds are indeed blowing through the little ticket this week. Stay hard Hang Zone…
 

Fernando just made a tongue-in-cheek comment about Norm coming out of retirement to win more e-brakes.

George muttered “he might have to.”

Edited July 18, 2023 by BigDHornfan

[mdmost 43050]

Dan's not going to enjoy that the Musers can keep playing BAD Radio fights and he'll no longer be able to answer with Junior's I want that job or Gordo/Norm. 

Edited July 18, 2023 by mdmost

[Hermanator 7174]

The ticket just finally ran it's course. It had unbelievable longevity and chemistry but maybe it really was Rhyner holding it all together behind the scenes all these years. Once he left it's become dysfunctional with high turnover like every other radio station. 

Outside of just Gordo now the rest of the ticket is pretty garbage. 

[NoName 16406]

12 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

The ticket just finally ran it's course. It had unbelievable longevity and chemistry but maybe it really was Rhyner holding it all together behind the scenes all these years. Once he left it's become dysfunctional with high turnover like every other radio station.

so we are to believe that Mike Rhyner, who didn't give enough of a damn to actually work on his show, was holding it together behind the scenes?

come on.

[mdmost 43050]

Poor Jub. Losing a sibling on his birthday. Damn.

[mdmost 43050]

Return music for the Musers has been very telling. Respect, Think, Where Did Our Love Go. 

https://radioinsight.com/headlines/254823/dan-mcdowell-jake-kemp-resign-from-ktck/

Edited July 18, 2023 by mdmost

[NOMAAA 1696]

dont know why anyone up there outside of management would have any reason to be petty or have ill will against dan or jake.  want more money/outside revenue options, bosses say no, think you can get it elsewhere and resign.  its not like they went scorched earth on anyone on their way out.  keeping my kneepads on.

[NoName 16406]

11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Return music for the Musers has been very telling. Respect, Think, Where Did Our Love Go. 

https://radioinsight.com/headlines/254823/dan-mcdowell-jake-kemp-resign-from-ktck/

confirmed that email may be real from their twitter?

edit: sounds like musers opened up this AM with "Band of Gold" and played it again a little while ago. yikes.

Edited July 18, 2023 by NoName

[BigDHornfan 6550]

Last day on the air.

Stay Hard Hangzone!

[futureman 22545]

those guys are idiots.  fucking ridiculous to think they can make more money or be more relevant away from the ticket.  they are leaving because they are butthurt.  and they will regret it.

Edited July 18, 2023 by futureman

[RPM 26354]

OK, I'm starting to think this may be real. A couple points are Cumulus is broke, iHeart is not. They have a pretty healthy podcast outlet, too. I see no problem with them agreeing to the streaming requests. 97.1 has a better signal, no tejano bleed over. Not 100% convinced Dan would do or be good at mornings. Middays are his realm.

[MAUFRAIS 6634]

Today sucks

[RPM 26354]

We may need a thread title change

[mdmost 43050]

3 minutes ago, RPM said:

OK, I'm starting to think this may be real. A couple points are Cumulus is broke, iHeart is not. They have a pretty healthy podcast outlet, too. I see no problem with them agreeing to the streaming requests. 97.1 has a better signal, no tejano bleed over. Not 100% convinced Dan would do or be good at mornings. Middays are his realm.

It's definitely real. As far as Dan & Jake to mornings on the Freak, being a morning guy is one thing when you're getting up, having coffee, watching last night's Rangers game. It's another thing when you have to get up like the Musers do every day. Yeah, they'll start later but it's still a grind to get up every morning to do that. I think they'll take Ben & Skin's spot. There's a reason that D Magazine article came out. It felt like Ben & Skin getting another swan song. 

1 minute ago, RPM said:

We may need a thread title change

Nah. BAD Radio hasn't been a thing for 2 years now. 

[futureman 22545]

if sean bass gets a host role the ticket is officially in hospice, waiting to die.

[RPM 26354]

I want the timeline where Norm retired in 2020.

[nolongerU2horn 767]

18 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It's definitely real. As far as Dan & Jake to mornings on the Freak, being a morning guy is one thing when you're getting up, having coffee, watching last night's Rangers game. It's another thing when you have to get up like the Musers do every day. Yeah, they'll start later but it's still a grind to get up every morning to do that. I think they'll take Ben & Skin's spot. There's a reason that D Magazine article came out. It felt like Ben & Skin getting another swan song. 

Nah. BAD Radio hasn't been a thing for 2 years now. 

I don't know why people started talking about that D Magazine article again but it was over 2 years old

[Skipper 6200]

26 minutes ago, RPM said:

OK, I'm starting to think this may be real. A couple points are Cumulus is broke, iHeart is not. They have a pretty healthy podcast outlet, too. I see no problem with them agreeing to the streaming requests. 97.1 has a better signal, no tejano bleed over. Not 100% convinced Dan would do or be good at mornings. Middays are his realm.

I got the tejano bleed over on the way in this morning and switched the station.  Ridiculous.  I'm definitely a free agent after this move.  Unfortunately not aware of any commute time radio that is better.  If Jake/Dan moved to morning or afternoon drive time on the freak I would convert.

Edited July 18, 2023 by Skipper

[futureman 22545]

4 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I got the tejano bleed over on the way in this morning and switched the station.  Ridiculous.  I'm definitely a free agent after this move.  Unfortunately not aware of any commute time radio that is better.  If Jake/Dan moved to morning or afternoon drive time on the freak I would convert.

you'd listen to them over gordo?  doubtful.

[Dbeasy 15092]

I think one of the reasons Dan bailed is that he never quite got over being left at midday while his partner ascended to drive time. 

I don’t see that cumulus had any better option, but I’m sure it still stung. 

[RPM 26354]

Just now, futureman said:

you'd listen to them over gordo?  doubtful.

you get all the Gordo on the app.

[Gene Parmesan 4014]

Seems like a when keeping it real goes wrong move by Jake with 2 young kids.  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, NoName said:

so we are to believe that Mike Rhyner, who didn't give enough of a damn to actually work on his show, was holding it together behind the scenes?

come on.

Please don’t quote that idiot either. I hate the ignore feature. You’re right - Rhyner wasn’t holding anything together. 

[RPM 26354]

5 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Seems like a when keeping it real goes wrong move by Jake with 2 young kids.  

[BigDHornfan 6550]

6 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Seems like a when keeping it real goes wrong move by Jake with 2 young kids.  

He's gone on record saying he could afford not to work due to what his wife brings home.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I think one of the reasons Dan bailed is that he never quite got over being left at midday while his partner ascended to drive time. 

I don’t see that cumulus had any better option, but I’m sure it still stung. 

Agreed, but, they had better options. Bob on The HL has been bad. Bob is talented but not nearly as talented as he thinks he is, and he is a thin-skinned bitch and nerd. 

[Da Fino 2784]

What are the ticket's options at this point to fill those five hours? That's a horrible position for them to be facing with the people currently on staff. It's just Donovan and then guys that host weekend shows. Brutal. 

Edited July 18, 2023 by Da Fino

[BigDHornfan 6550]

I would put money on them just letting Donovan have 10-3 permanently. 

[MAUFRAIS 6634]

He's gone on record saying he could afford not to work due to what his wife brings home.

Good thing he’s got that lingerie

[RPM 26354]

Just now, BigDHornfan said:

I would put money on them just letting Donovan have 10-3 permanently. 

Musers 5:30 - 10

Donovan and a rotating Muser 10 - 3

Bob & Corby 3 - 7

Gordo burns out from show hopping and becomes the next Hunter S. Thompson

Jub retires to Possum Kingdom

Junior is found hanging in a closet above a puddle of his own urine