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8 hours ago, utee94 said:

I think it's awesome because it sets up the inevitable agony of the roller coaster beautifully.

Are we certain these ESPN dipshits like Peter Burns aren't just BOMC lackeys trolling the ags?  'Cause it kinda seems like they are. 

Burns is a SEC shill. He writes propaganda puff pieces constantly.

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SEC announces monster total revenue and distribution to member schools

By Doug Samuels -    January 30, 2020

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey announced today that $651 million of total revenue had been divided among the 14 SEC member schools for the 2018-19 fiscal year.   That total combines the $624.2 million from the conference office, and $26.8 million from schools that participated in bowl games offset by travel and other bowl expenses.  That meant a payday of about $44.6 million per school, which was up a few million dollars per school since $43.1 million was paid out in the 2017-18 fiscal year.

The nearly $45 million given out to each school is still behind the Big Ten ($50 million per school) but still well above the Pac-12 ($31.3 million per school). The Big Ten is able to enjoy the added security of their media rights deal being the trailblazer among fellow Power 5 conferences.  To really put it all in perspective and fully illustrate the gap between the Power 5 and Group of 5 when it comes to revenue distribution, the American Athletic Conference reported $74.47 million (per the Orlando Sentinel) back in 2016-17 while the SEC ($650 million), Big Ten ($531 million), Pac-12 ($509 million) ACC ($418 million), and Big 12 ($371 million) all far surpassed that figure.  “The revenue distributed through the Southeastern Conference enables our 14 member universities to provide unparalleled support to their student-athletes through superior instruction, training, equipment, academic counseling, medical care, mental health and wellness support and life-skills development,” Sankey shared via the conference’s release. “It is this sustained conference-wide commitment to the student-athlete experience that makes this conference sound and its impact so meaningful.”

The league’s revenue figure is due to explode, as ESPN now has a deal with the league that will pay the SEC an annual fee “in the low $300 million range,” which is a massive upgrade from the $55 million made during the league’s deal with CBS, Sports Pro Media points out via SBJ. The league’s switch from CBS to ESPN was huge news back in December, and the worldwide leader reportedly paid $2.25 billion for the SEC rights over the next 15 years.

https://footballscoop.com/news/sec-announces-monster-total-revenue-and-distribution-to-member-schools/

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I like how the 371 mil figure looks so much smaller for the Big 12, but it's still 37 mil per school(compared to 44 mil for the SEC) plus they all still have their 3rd tier rights which in a lot of cases will equal, or in Texas' case, far exceed what they make.

Good job aggy...you make so much more money that stupid Texas.

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Uuuum 2.25 billion divided by 15 is 150 million per annum. Which is...cypherin’...half of the 300 million annual that was reported INTHE SAME PARAGRAPH. 

No, the $2.25B was the 15 year deal done in 2008 which pays the conference $150 mil/ yr in total, not per school per year. 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/51238-espn-pays-225-billion-for-sec-rights

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13 minutes ago, Randolph Duke said:

No, the $2.25B was the 15 year deal done in 2008 which pays the conference $150 mil/ yr in total, not per school per year. 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/51238-espn-pays-225-billion-for-sec-rights

I was wondering if that was the deal, but I read that paragraph several times and decided that the last sentence ties the 2.25 /15 to the switch from cbs to espn. 

I also wasn’t sure how to get to 569 million or whatever using 150 and 50 for old contracts.  That puts a lot of money on secn, bowl payouts, etc.  

I blame poor writing and not poor comprehension. 

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DISNEY making a Big Move...

BREAKING NEWS:  

SEC, ESPN strike 10-year deal for college football, basketball starting in 2024

4:30PM CT    Alex Scarborough.  ESPN Staff Writer

ESPN and the SEC announced Thursday that they have reached a new 10-year deal beginning in 2024 that will make the network the exclusive rights holder of SEC football and men's basketball.

The deal provides the network, including ABC, up to 15 premier football games, such as the SEC championship game and rivalry games like Alabama-Auburn and Florida-Georgia.

"This new agreement was born from a strong foundation which began almost 25 years ago and now reflects a shared vision of the future with the SEC, Commissioner [Greg] Sankey and their member institutions" said Jimmy Pitaro, chairman, ESPN and sports content. "With all the conference's games under the ESPN umbrella and adding ABC and ESPN+ to our distribution channels, ESPN will have complete scheduling flexibility, resulting in maximum exposure and adding significant benefits for SEC schools and fans."

Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time.

ABC will also air the SEC championship game in the late afternoon, and either ABC or ESPN will feature a late-afternoon Friday-after-Thanksgiving SEC game.

"This is a significant day for the Southeastern Conference and for the future of our member institutions. Our agreement with ESPN will greatly enhance our ability to support our student-athletes in the years ahead and to further enrich the game day experience for SEC fans around the world," said Sankey. "One of our primary goals was to improve the television scheduling process in ways that will benefit our students, coaches, alumni and fans. By working in collaboration with ESPN, we were able to secure an agreement that includes more lead time for many game-time announcements, and in many ways modernizes the college football scheduling process."

In addition, ESPN+ will have the right to stream one nonconference football game and two nonconference men's basketball games per SEC school each season. All told, ESPN+ will carry up to 14 nonconference football games and up to 20 nonconference men's basketball games annually.

The addition of the SEC expands the portfolio of ESPN+ to 20 conferences and thousands of college games each year.

This new agreement will be concurrent with the separate, existing 20-year agreement between ESPN and the SEC that also runs through 2033-34 and sees ESPN carry more than 1,950 SEC games each year across the conference's 21 sports on ESPN networks and SEC Network.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30492065/sec-espn-strike-10-year-deal-college-football-basketball-starting-2024

 

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SEC on ABC: ESPN to be exclusive TV home, starting 2024

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The Southeastern Conference's signature mid-afternoon Saturday game will move from CBS to ABC starting in 2024 as part of a new 10-year contract with ESPN and the powerhouse football league announced Thursday.

The deal makes ESPN the exclusive media rights holder of SEC football and men's basketball, and will end the conference's relationship with CBS after three decades. CBS has been airing the league's Saturday afternoon centerpiece game and football championship since 1996.

“The SEC has now, has had and will have a 3:30 p.m. Eastern Time broadcast network game. The change will be from CBS to ABC,” SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey told AP. “So that’s a point of consistency.”

The SEC championship game will also air on ABC.

The SEC and ESPN are already in the midst of a 20-year deal that includes a partnership on the SEC Network. The new deal will line up so both will end at the same time.

The difference in the new deal: The mid-afternoon game is less likely to be the SEC's game of the week. For the first time, ESPN will be able to place SEC games in its Saturday prime-time slot, too.

"So Saturday night, prime time on ABC is the highest profile window, the biggest stage in terms of college football. And we love the fact that we can now bring the ABC platform into the mix, starting in 2024,” ESPN Chairman Jimmy Pitaro told AP.

Sports Business Journal first reported a year ago the SEC and ESPN were moving toward a partnership. The deal would likely have been announced sooner if not for the pandemic.

The SEC's contract with CBS was worth about $55 million per year to the conference.

Both Sankey and Pitaro declined to reveal financial terms, but Sports Business Journal reported the new deal will be worth more than $300 million annually — an amount confirmed to The AP by a person familiar with the agreement on condition of anonymity because the value of the contract is private.

The new deal also gives ESPN the right to place one nonconference football game and two nonconference basketball games from each school per season on ESPN+, the network's subscription-based online streaming service. The company said ESPN+ has 11.5 million subscribers.

“It’s a recognition of ... the changing dynamics around media availability and media consumption,” Sankey said.

Sankey said moving the SEC's media rights under one roof will allow the conference to set start times for more games much farther out. The conference hopes that's a boon for both TV and online viewers as well as fans going to the games.

“I think more than half of our games we can set up (kick-off times) during the summer,” Sankey said. “They’re still going to be some of the 12-day and even maybe narrower adjustments, but those will be limited."

Unlike most major spectator sports, the vast majority of game times in college football are set within two weeks of kickoff. The lack of lead time is a frequent complaint from fans across the country and has contributed to dips in college football attendance.

"It’s common sense, but we have just not operated that way in college football,” Florida athletic director Scott Stricklin said. "There is still going to be a lot of flexibility for our partners to adjust and put the more interesting games in the highest-profile windows, but it's a good balance what the league has worked out with Disney.

“It's going to allow fans to have a lot more clarity on when their favorite team's going to be playing a lot earlier ahead of time.”

Sankey said schools will be allowed to set kickoff times for games shown exclusively on ESPN+.

There has been speculation the SEC could buy out part of the remaining three years of its current deal with CBS and hasten the move to ESPN. Asked about that possibility, Sankey said the SEC and its members “look forward to maintaining our strong relationship” with CBS.

ESPN already has exclusive rights to the Atlantic Coast Conference, which also has a network partnership with ESPN, and the American Athletic Conference.

ESPN holds at least partial rights with almost every FBS conference, including the Big Ten, Big 12 and Pac-12.

Pitaro said adding more SEC inventory to ESPN's portfolio would not deter the network from being involved with other conferences when deals come up in the not-so-distant future.

The Pac-12's current deals with Fox and ESPN expire in 2024; the Big 12's end in 2025; and the Big Ten's latest contracts with ESPN, Fox and CBS run through 2023.

“College sports in general will remain a huge priority for ESPN as we move forward,” Pitaro said. “And as each individual deal comes up for renewal, we treat it on a case-by-case basis."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2020/12/10/sec-on-abc-espn-to-be-exclusive-tv-home-starting-2024/43265789/

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37 minutes ago, Frank Gallagher said:

$17 million raise per school is pretty strong.

Yeah that T1 deal they had was pathetically bad, even if it gave a metric fuck ton of exposure.    That CBS slot gets parroted and marketed like crazy.   Its actually good for someone that its open.   

Considering the Big 12's is worse, it would only cost CBS $170m to sign up the Big 12 or Pac.

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5 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

Yeah that T1 deal they had was pathetically bad, even if it gave a metric fuck ton of exposure.    That CBS slot gets parroted and marketed like crazy.   Its actually good for someone that its open.   

Considering the Big 12's is worse, it would only cost CBS $170m to sign up the Big 12 or Pac.

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My understanding is that the CBS deal is a T1+ deal that gives them 1st choice weekly.  Not sure if the Big 12 has the depth to pull it off.  More like carving out the UT-OU game as separate marketed property which I think makes sense.  Plus, shouldn't be shared with conference.

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Just now, Frank Gallagher said:

My understanding is that the CBS deal is a T1+ deal that gives them 1st choice weekly.  Not sure if the Big 12 has the depth to pull it off.  More like carving out the UT-OU game as separate marketed property which I think makes sense.  Plus, shouldn't be shared with conference.

They had one game a week, so it was a micro deal, but it was the prime spot.   CBS didn't want a lot of games as it was as part of the year they slot in golf and tennis.   It got less enticing for CBS over the past decade because they had to give everyone their 15 minutes.   So Bama couldn't be on twice if the Vandy's or Mizzos of the world need to get their CBS match up too.   That's why they didn't budge on the price.

They may not have the depth, but my point was more if CBS only wants 8-10 games, the Big 12 is uniquely set up to carve that out. CBS would just get first choice and everything else would fall to the next network...whatever that may be in 2025.   Its also the only network that could fill those games easily and be excited for a $150m contract.   The SEC and ACC are out, the Big Ten will want more than $300m, which leaves the Big 12 and Pac 12.   

That being said, I don't think CBS is willing to pay $15-20m a game for that time slot.   ESPN was able to because they didn't buy the slot, they just bought the 15 games.   If they wanted, they could put the SEC on ABC at Noon (eastern), 3:30, and 7:30, while playing three other SEC games on ESPN at the same slots.   No other network could really pull that off to recoup the money. 

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3 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah FOX needs the  B10, B12 and Pac12 to get stronger...

Disney might lock down college sports in a few years, as schools as USC & Oregon will call OU & UT: "hey, you up"..?

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I don't see Oklahoma & Texas severing partnership with ESPN, as Disney has a far stronger media arm than FOX...

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4 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

They had one game a week, so it was a micro deal, but it was the prime spot.   CBS didn't want a lot of games as it was as part of the year they slot in golf and tennis.   It got less enticing for CBS over the past decade because they had to give everyone their 15 minutes.   So Bama couldn't be on twice if the Vandy's or Mizzos of the world need to get their CBS match up too.   That's why they didn't budge on the price.

They may not have the depth, but my point was more if CBS only wants 8-10 games, the Big 12 is uniquely set up to carve that out. CBS would just get first choice and everything else would fall to the next network...whatever that may be in 2025.   Its also the only network that could fill those games easily and be excited for a $150m contract.   The SEC and ACC are out, the Big Ten will want more than $300m, which leaves the Big 12 and Pac 12.   

That being said, I don't think CBS is willing to pay $15-20m a game for that time slot.   ESPN was able to because they didn't buy the slot, they just bought the 15 games.   If they wanted, they could put the SEC on ABC at Noon (eastern), 3:30, and 7:30, while playing three other SEC games on ESPN at the same slots.   No other network could really pull that off to recoup the money. 

Aren't those games already in the existing T1 deal?  If so, nothing incremental.

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4 minutes ago, Frank Gallagher said:

Aren't those games already in the existing T1 deal?  If so, nothing incremental.

They couldn't sell it today, they don't have any spare inventory.   But their contracts come due around 2024, which is when this deal ends.   So you'd carve it out at that time.

And yes, incremental, but the Big 12's T1 deal is criminally bad.   They were able to renegotiate the T2 deal a few years back and they lined it up with the T1 deal, but that one is still very low.   So, assuming the market doesn't just up and collapse in 2024, they're set for a big raise anyway even if they just come to mid market pricing.

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17 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

Disney might lock down college sports in a few years, as schools as USC & Oregon will call OU & UT: "hey, you up"..?

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I don't see Oklahoma & Texas severing partnership with ESPN, as Disney has a far stronger media arm than FOX...

DISNEY going after more subscribers for ESPN+

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Wonder if/when ESPN has a stand-alone sports app for direct subscribers only -- no longer tied to cable/satellite subscribers.

 

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5 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

The SEC's contract with CBS was worth about $55 million per year to the conference.

Both Sankey and Pitaro declined to reveal financial terms, but Sports Business Journal reported the new deal will be worth more than $300 million annually — an amount confirmed to The AP by a person familiar with the agreement on condition of anonymity because the value of the contract is private.

So ESPN nearly sextupled the price of those 15 broadcast games and bought nothing else?

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SEC Leaving CBS for ABC: Inside the 10-Year Deal Starting in 2024

https://www.si.com/college/2020/12/10/sec-espn-abc-tv-contract-leaving-cbs

 "If the SEC-ESPN deal is worth the reported $300-plus million a year, SEC schools each stand to make about $20 million more in annual TV revenue checks starting in 2024, eclipsing the Big Ten as the richest conference in terms of annual TV cash."

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2 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

SEC Leaving CBS for ABC: Inside the 10-Year Deal Starting in 2024

https://www.si.com/college/2020/12/10/sec-espn-abc-tv-contract-leaving-cbs

 "If the SEC-ESPN deal is worth the reported $300-plus million a year, SEC schools each stand to make about $20 million more in annual TV revenue checks starting in 2024, eclipsing the Big Ten as the richest conference in terms of annual TV cash."

And people will be shocked at the numbers again when the B12 announces their next television deal. CBS is going to have to pay about twice their old rate when renewing their NFL package. NFL QBs are getting well over $40 mil/yr. NBA teams have multiple players getting $40mil/ yr. The money flowing into live entertainment is huge.

None of this is surprising.

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Fox and ou negotiations for it's tier 3 should be an indicator of realignment.  ESPN and FOX are overpaying the Big12 because of UT and ou.  I can see FOX honey dicking the landthieves into joining the BIG.. making the huge deal they are going to sign the BIG worth it.

 

Hopefully then CDC/Hartzell sees the answer and joins the SEC along with Tech..  Yeah I hate the SEC too but damn.. our schedule vs border and in state rivals would be pretty cool once again.

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7 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

Fox and ou negotiations for it's tier 3 should be an indicator of realignment.  ESPN and FOX are overpaying the Big12 because of UT and ou.  I can see FOX honey dicking the landthieves into joining the BIG.. making the huge deal they are going to sign the BIG worth it.

 

Hopefully then CDC/Hartzell sees the answer and joins the SEC along with Tech..  Yeah I hate the SEC too but damn.. our schedule vs border and in state rivals would be pretty cool once again.

No way OU gets into the BIG. Not AAU.

Texas isn't joining the SEC. Ever.

When the NCAA presidents get together to discuss the future of athletics, we will get some clarity on things. Until then, nothing changes. NIL rules have to be decided on. Congress is going to get involved. The report of the Knight Commission needs to be considered.

Right now, individual schools know their financial situations moving forward. next, the conferences need to assess the overall health of the various schools and look at championships are going to be supported over the next few years.

Once the conferences have their shit together, Congress and the NCAA should have the NIL crap sorted out.

At that point (June 2021?), realignment can start to be discussed. My best guess is that the FBS splits into two separate sub-divisions with major ramifications for the continued existence of the current conference structures.

 

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4 minutes ago, Randolph Duke said:

No way OU gets into the BIG. Not AAU.

Texas isn't joining the SEC. Ever.

When the NCAA presidents get together to discuss the future of athletics, we will get some clarity on things. Until then, nothing changes. NIL rules have to be decided on. Congress is going to get involved. The report of the Knight Commission needs to be considered.

Right now, individual schools know their financial situations moving forward. next, the conferences need to assess the overall health of the various schools and look at championships are going to be supported over the next few years.

Once the conferences have their shit together, Congress and the NCAA should have the NIL crap sorted out.

At that point (June 2021?), realignment can start to be discussed. My best guess is that the FBS splits into two separate sub-divisions with major ramifications for the continued existence of the current conference structures.

 

And that really sucks if you want Texas to become a premier college football program. It would be great for baseball, too.

 

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I get the NIL stuff, but this deal is huge for the SEC schools.. they will all be making more than Texas per year on media contracts.  Big 12 really going to get a huge bump to be close to that?  Well not for the ISUs. Tech's but for TEXAS?  I don't know.  What was the reason why we would never join the SEC again?

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28 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

I get the NIL stuff, but this deal is huge for the SEC schools.. they will all be making more than Texas per year on media contracts.  Big 12 really going to get a huge bump to be close to that?  Well not for the ISUs. Tech's but for TEXAS?  I don't know.  What was the reason why we would never join the SEC again?

To keep the Big 12 intact, UT and OU have to be at par with similar institutions.  Either it comes through an enhanced media contract or there will be a return to uneven revenue sharing in the league. 

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18 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

I get the NIL stuff, but this deal is huge for the SEC schools.. they will all be making more than Texas per year on media contracts.  Big 12 really going to get a huge bump to be close to that?  Well not for the ISUs. Tech's but for TEXAS?  I don't know.  What was the reason why we would never join the SEC again?

I can propose a rather realistic scenario where the Big 12 may well cease to exist in less than five years.

If the Knight Commission recommendations are accepted and if there are enough schools who have to cut programs, the current conference structures may well be a thing of the past. If Tennessee and Alabama can be members of the Big 12 in one sport (rowing), hybrid conferences for different sports may well be the model of choice moving forward.

As for Texas into the SEC, the faculty will never accept the farm schools and underfunded state schools of the SEC as their peer institutions. Going back to 1880, UT was modeled on UVa ("Mr Jefferson's university"). Lowering aspirations from the nationally respected academic sphere to the regional and agricultural schools of the SEC would be a major cultural shift for the UT faculty. They wouldn't tolerate it for a second.

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7 minutes ago, Randolph Duke said:

I can propose a rather realistic scenario where the Big 12 may well cease to exist in less than five years.

If the Knight Commission recommendations are accepted and if there are enough schools who have to cut programs, the current conference structures may well be a thing of the past. If Tennessee and Alabama can be members of the Big 12 in one sport (rowing), hybrid conferences for different sports may well be the model of choice moving forward.

As for Texas into the SEC, the faculty will never accept the farm schools and underfunded state schools of the SEC as their peer institutions. Going back to 1880, UT was modeled on UVa ("Mr Jefferson's university"). Lowering aspirations from the nationally respected academic sphere to the regional and agricultural schools of the SEC would be a major cultural shift for the UT faculty. They wouldn't tolerate it for a second.

Wait.. aren't there more AAU schools in the SEC than in the Big 12? It's Texas, KU, ISU... that's it right?

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1 hour ago, Randolph Duke said:

No way OU gets into the BIG. Not AAU.

Texas isn't joining the SEC. Ever.

When the NCAA presidents get together to discuss the future of athletics, we will get some clarity on things. Until then, nothing changes. NIL rules have to be decided on. Congress is going to get involved. The report of the Knight Commission needs to be considered.

Right now, individual schools know their financial situations moving forward. next, the conferences need to assess the overall health of the various schools and look at championships are going to be supported over the next few years.

Once the conferences have their shit together, Congress and the NCAA should have the NIL crap sorted out.

At that point (June 2021?), realignment can start to be discussed. My best guess is that the FBS splits into two separate sub-divisions with major ramifications for the continued existence of the current conference structures.

 

I disagree on OU getting into the B1G. Since Nebraska is no longer AAU, that precedent has been set. And they will just pimp out that they take in more National Merit Scholars than anyone else to help ease in. The worst kept secret is the idea that OU and KU are the B1G's next combo to get to 16. 

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6 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

Wait.. aren't there more AAU schools in the SEC than in the Big 12? It's Texas, KU, ISU... that's it right?

What point are you trying to make?

The current composition of the Big 12 is based on decisions made in the 1990s. Much has changed since then. The considerations made when creating the Big 12 have little to do with the decisions to be made during the next round of realignment.

Most states in the SEC footprint spend below the national average on secondary education. This affects their ability to prepare students for post-secondary education. Look at the state of Alabama. They can't find enough in-state kid capable of handling the level of education offered at Univ of Alabama (which isn't exactly rigorous). Bama relies heavily on out-of-state students to provide sufficient white-collar graduates to sustain the state's economy.

The Higher Education Coordinating Board wouldn't permit UT Austin to pivot to more closely align with the SEC schools. Texas has A&M for that purpose. UT has a completely different purpose, much more closely aligned with the national, academic universities.

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