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ChickenSandwich

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1 hour ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Below average ?

You are an idiot.

 

He  led his team to a Super Bowl and here are his career stats....

ATT - 1692

COMP - 1011

COMP % - 59.8

YDS PASSING - 12.,271

72 TD'S

30 INT'S

RUSHING ATT - 475

YARD RUSHING - 2300

AVG YDS PER RUSH - 6.1

RUSHING TD'S - 13

69 GAMES PLAYED

58 STARTS

Hardly "below"average.

Try again.

 

Below Average, yes.  Two by definition Average seasons are his best.  In a throwing league, 3000 yards and 10INTs is hardly impressive.  Flacco threw for 2500 and 24 TD in half of 2018 and got benched.  He had two good seasons where Jim could protect him and not ask him to throw the ball more than 25 times a game.

 

2016 San Francisco 49ers 12 331 196 59.2 27.6 2,241 6.8 186.8 16 4.8 4 1.2 65T 25 5 36 207 90.7
 
2015 San Francisco 49ers 9 244 144 59.0 27.1 1,615 6.6 179.4 6 2.5 5 2.0 76T 19 7 28 166 78.5
 
2014 San Francisco 49ers 16 478 289 60.5 29.9 3,369 7.0 210.6 19 4.0 10 2.1 80T 48 5 52 344 86.4
 
2013 San Francisco 49ers 16 416 243 58.4 26.0 3,197 7.7 199.8 21 5.0 8 1.9 64T 46 10 39 231 91.6
 
2012 San Francisco 49ers 13 218 136 62.4 16.8 1,814 8.3 139.5 10 4.6 3 1.4 57 32 4 16 112 98.3
 
2011 San Francisco 49ers 3 5 3 60.0 1.7 35 7.0 11.7 0 0.0 0 0.0 19 0 0 0 0

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Here is Ryan Tannehill's best years....average my dude, and Kap requires a very specific offense to be successful (one maybe 2 of 32 teams employ).  he is not plug and play for the NFL

 

2015 Miami Dolphins 16 586 363 61.9 36.6 4,208 7.2 263.0 24 4.1 12 2.0 54T 57 13 45 420 88.7
 
2014 Miami Dolphins 16 590 392 66.4 36.9 4,045 6.9 252.8 27 4.6 12 2.0 50 41 4 46 337 92.8
 
2013 Miami Dolphins 16 588 355 60.4 36.8 3,913 6.7 244.6 24 4.1 17 2.9 67 46 10 58 399 81.7
 
2012 Miami Dolphins 16 484 282 58.3 30.2 3,294 6.8 205.9 12 2.5 13 2.7 80T 40 3 35 234 76.1
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8 minutes ago, sublime said:

And guys like Blaine Gabbert get chance after chance after chance. Let that sink in! He's still in the league! How many Super Bowls and playoff games and NFC Championship games as he been to?

What part of Gabbert had a better year than Kaepernick didn't make sense?

We have no idea what the settlement consists of.  I'm simply pointing out that Colin Kaepernick lost his job with his play on the field.  Losing 90% is generally a firing offense for a QB or a coach.

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8 minutes ago, sublime said:

Yes but the entire team may have become ill suited to Kaep's style of play (due to a coaching change) and there may been no "book" on Gabbert's 9er incarnation at the time.

The following year Blaine turned to shit.

Declining Star! Still in the league though.

The majority of the NFL is ill suited to Kaep's style of play.  

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5 minutes ago, sublime said:

And there are PLENTY of declining QBs still in the league. In fact, the majority are either "in decline" or they're a "never were". And they are retaining roster spots. 

and they all more easily fit in to the systems being run in the NFL today.  They are plug and play for better or worse.  Kap is not.

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5 minutes ago, sublime said:

Paxton Lynch is a backup for the Seattle Seahawks. Do you think Colin Kaepernick might have been a suitable backup for the Seattle Seahawks. I do.

But no, Paxton Lynch, instead, is still suiting up. Paxton Lynch.

 

Wilson has never thrown below 61% completion rate in his career, Kaepernick has never thrown for 61% in his career

 

So Seattle should be forced to hire him because it's one of 3 places he makes sense?  Kap doesn't do reality, he has his agent throwing out the Patriots as a good fit.  Guys who only managed to hit 60% once in their career don't seem like the ideal to run the Pats system.  

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10 minutes ago, sublime said:

Yes but the entire team may have become ill suited to Kaep's style of play (due to a coaching change) and there may been no "book" on Gabbert's 9er incarnation at the time.

The following year Blaine turned to shit.

Declining Star! Still in the league though.

When a QB loses 90% of his games, he generally loses his job too.  Gabbert played behind the same OL.  He played in fewer games and won more of them than Kaepernick, even in 2016.  You're right that Gabbert was a poor QB.  You're ignoring the fact that Kaepernick was even worse.

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Kap didn't want to play. Simple as that. He got his payday doing this. How are you this fucking naive? He never wanted to be a backup. At all. And that's fine. Not everyone does. This was calculated from the beginning. He played on the emotions of many communities, got a following and the NFL got tired of his shit and forced him to go away. He never wanted to play football again. It's why he settled without taking his "cause" any further. And he got a big payday from Nike. He got what he wanted.

But keep thinking he was blackballed. 

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2 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Wow it seems this thread is identifying some racists among us.

Let's face it.....the NFL paid a shit ton of money to keep information covered up about the collusion.

If you cannot see that you need your eyes checked.

 

Bullshit, they paid him because it was cheaper and less detrimental to their image than dicking with lawyers, discovery, time, ect... 

You really think the NFL owners got on their rich man group email and sent out an excel spread sheet BLACKBALLED: COLIN KAEPERNICK AND ED REED

Or is it more likely that he was asking for starter money, and nobody wanted a controversial and risky player at their highly paid and public QB position? 

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1 hour ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Below average ?

You are an idiot.

 

He  led his team to a Super Bowl and here are his career stats....

ATT - 1692

COMP - 1011

COMP % - 59.8

YDS PASSING - 12.,271

72 TD'S

30 INT'S

RUSHING ATT - 475

YARD RUSHING - 2300

AVG YDS PER RUSH - 6.1

RUSHING TD'S - 13

69 GAMES PLAYED

58 STARTS

Hardly "below"average.

Try again.

 

His skill set wasn't great for an NFL qb. 

The Ravens are trying Lamar Jackson in an offense suited for CK, but he turned them down -

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bs-sp-ravens-ray-lewis-colin-kaepernick-20170905-story.html

 

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1 hour ago, Mileslong said:


Could you please identify these racists?

No names but my guess is it would be some of the people that actually think he never played again because of his talent.

He was black balled pure and simple and the NFL is paying them off (rumored to be $80 million) to not have anyone in the league deposed.

You are kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.

 

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On 2/17/2019 at 12:46 PM, Rusty Shackelford said:

From liberals: “‘Hey, don’t you know it was a Green Beret who told Colin to protest in the first place, told him to take a knee?’” Boyer lamented: “And I’m like, ‘I didn’t tell him to do anything. I definitely didn’t tell him to protest. What I did was meet with him, make suggestions on different ways to do it after he was already protesting. And worked with him to kind of come to a middle ground.’”

 

yep, and Boyer is trying to take a middle ground again. The problem with Boyer is his advice sucked.  A person doesnt have a "right" to be a douche at work and expect no consequences.  The boss has every right to terminate that hard headed person  

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The same people here that think it’s ok for someone to be fired for doing something off the job that their employer doesn’t care about are the same people that think Kap should be playing qb.

He’s not Mike Vick. He’s not worth the headache. No one is retooling an offense around him, because at best, he might be able to be a back up. Why doesn’t he go play for Carolina? They have a qb that used to do a fair amount of running.

Just like Tebow, he isn’t worth dealing with. Plenty of people decided not to watch the nfl behind him. And the nfl only cares about money.

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On 2/17/2019 at 10:51 AM, Surly Bevo said:

I seriously doubt there was true collusion.  CK was clearly not a solution at starting QB and no team is going to put up with the circus for a back-up QB.  So yes the kneeling had an impact but I don't think it was because a bunch of owners got together and decided to black ball him.  Guys like Hardy, Pacman, etc etc...they were all starting talents.  You don't bring the circus to town for a guy that's going to hold a clip board.  No collusion is necessary to make that obvious decision.

CK thought he was more valuable that he really was. If he was a better player without all the baggage, he would play. 

I dont think collusion is even an issue here. The NFL is not the government. The NFL is more akin to a club and a club can decide what kind of members it wants to have as long as the exclusion isnt based on race, gender, religion, etc. 

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15 minutes ago, Foosters said:

LOL at people arguing he couldnt hack it in the NFL anymore. Have you seen some of the names teams keep employing? Nathan Peterman says hi.

exactly, there are plenty of shitty Qbs to choose from that come with none of the baggage of Kapernick

Hope he has a great season in the XFL next season

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20 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

No names but my guess is it would be some of the people that actually think he never played again because of his talent.

He was black balled pure and simple and the NFL is paying them off (rumored to be $80 million) to not have anyone in the league deposed.

You are kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.

 

and the other rumor is 5 million and some donations to charity.  We don't know for a reason.  It is the best outcome for the NFL.  Those that want to declare victory can believe he got 60 million and those who don't, believe he got 5 and they simply paid him to go away.  It is a win win for both sides and the best possible outcome. 

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On 2/17/2019 at 10:56 AM, Doc Reeves said:

I really don’t get all the hate. 

The guys just a stupid douchebag, but what was done to him was absolutely wrong.

Why do people bring up false arguments?  There is no hate.  Whey would there be?  It doesnt affect anyone here personally 

What was done to this "stupid douchebag" was not wrong. He douchebagged himself out of the market

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1 minute ago, Soldierhorn said:

Why do people bring up false arguments?  There is no hate.  Whey would there be?  It doesnt affect anyone here personally 

What was done to this "stupid douchebag" was not wrong. He douchebagged himself out of the market

Nah, he got douchebagged out of the market. Clear as day now with the settlement

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On 2/18/2019 at 8:33 AM, Tylerocks said:

His race is a HUGE part of it.  If you don't see that, then, I don't know what to tell you.

What exactly did he do?  Use his platform as a professional athlete to bring awareness to an issue he felt strongly about?  God forbid.

Can you do that at work and not expect consequences?  I doubt it

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On 2/18/2019 at 10:34 AM, sublime said:

So this is how you do it right.

cowboys-kneel-stand.gif?ak=bc

But without doing it first, the way it was done, nobody would have understood the purpose, if they had even noticed.

Moreover, religious expression by players has never been shunned, if Christian.

 

Still stupid and why it is not still being done.  The "protest" demonstration had nothing to do with their job and ultimately meaningless. 

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35 minutes ago, Foosters said:

LOL at people arguing he couldnt hack it in the NFL anymore. Have you seen some of the names teams keep employing? Nathan Peterman says hi.

He's about as bad as Peterman is these days. Peterman accepts his role, though. Kaepernick didn't and is no longer playing.

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8 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

 

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/03/17/report-some-nfl-executives-genuinely-hate-colin-kaepernick/

 

I'm sure someone in the world hates you, me or CK and, yes, I'm sure some in the '49ers organization personally hated CK.  Is that the context of hate that people are taking about in this thread?  or are you reaching?

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2 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


He’s not much better, but they don’t come with the baggage and headache he does.

Yes. I get that he doesn't come with the baggage. I was simply addressing the folks who are arguing whether or not he was good enough to land a job. He clearly was.

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2 hours ago, Foosters said:

No. He's not as bad as Peterman. He's not as bad as several QBs still employed. That's a fact.

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Rk Player Tm Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR
▼ 		Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD
1 Patrick Mahomes*+ KAN 23 QB 16 16 12-4-0 383 580 66.0 5097 50 8.6 12 2.1 89 8.8 9.6 13.3 318.6 113.8 82.0 26 171 8.13 8.89 4.3 2 2
2 Drew Brees* NOR 39 QB 15 15 13-2-0 364 489 74.4 3992 32 6.5 5 1.0 72 8.2 9.0 11.0 266.1 115.7 81.9 17 121 7.65 8.47 3.4 6 7
3 Ben Roethlisberger PIT 36 QB 16 16 9-6-1 452 675 67.0 5129 34 5.0 16 2.4 97 7.6 7.5 11.3 320.6 96.5 73.0 24 166 7.10 7.04 3.4 2 3
4 Mitchell Trubisky* CHI 24 QB 14 14 11-3-0 289 434 66.6 3223 24 5.5 12 2.8 70 7.4 7.3 11.2 230.2 95.4 72.8 24 143 6.72 6.59 5.2 1 2
5 Jameis Winston TAM 24 QB 11 9 3-6-0 244 378 64.6 2992 19 5.0 14 3.7 64 7.9 7.3 12.3 272.0 90.2 71.8 27 157 7.00 6.38 6.7 0 1
6 Andrew Luck* IND 29 QB 16 16 10-6-0 430 639 67.3 4593 39 6.1 15 2.3 68 7.2 7.4 10.7 287.1 98.7 71.5 18 134 6.79 6.95 2.7 3 3
7 Philip Rivers* LAC 37 QB 16 16 12-4-0 347 508 68.3 4308 32 6.3 12 2.4 75 8.5 8.7 12.4 269.3 105.5 71.2 32 204 7.60 7.79 5.9 3 3
8 Matt Ryan ATL 33 QB 16 16 7-9-0 422 608 69.4 4924 35 5.8 7 1.2 75 8.1 8.7 11.7 307.8 108.1 70.6 42 296 7.12 7.71 6.5 1 1
9 Tom Brady* NWE 41 QB 16 16 11-5-0 375 570 65.8 4355 29 5.1 11 1.9 63 7.6 7.8 11.6 272.2 97.7 68.8 21 147 7.12 7.26 3.6 1 2
10 Jared Goff* LAR 24 QB 16 16 13-3-0 364 561 64.9 4688 32 5.7 12 2.1 70 8.4 8.5 12.9 293.0 101.1 65.4 33 223 7.52 7.69 5.6 4 4
11 Russell Wilson* SEA 30 QB 16 16 10-6-0 280 427 65.6 3448 35 8.2 7 1.6 66 8.1 9.0 12.3 215.5 110.9 65.1 51 355 6.47 7.28 10.7 2 4
12 Carson Wentz PHI 26 QB 11 11 5-6-0 279 401 69.6 3074 21 5.2 7 1.7 58 7.7 7.9 11.0 279.5 102.2 64.9 31 202 6.65 6.89 7.2 2 2
13 Andy Dalton CIN 31 QB/wr 11 11 4-6-0 226 365 61.9 2566 21 5.8 11 3.0 49 7.0 6.8 11.4 233.3 89.6 64.6 21 157 6.24 6.05 5.4 3 4
14 Ryan Fitzpatrick TAM 36 qb 8 7 2-5-0 164 246 66.7 2366 17 6.9 12 4.9 75 9.6 8.8 14.4 295.8 100.4 64.4 14 76 8.81 8.04 5.4    
15 Deshaun Watson* HOU 23 QB 16 16 11-5-0 345 505 68.3 4165 26 5.1 9 1.8 73 8.2 8.5 12.1 260.3 103.1 63.0 62 384 6.67 6.87 10.9 5 5
16 Kirk Cousins MIN 30 QB 16 16 8-7-1 425 606 70.1 4298 30 5.0 10 1.7 75 7.1 7.3 10.1 268.6 99.7 60.6 40 262 6.25 6.48 6.2 1 0
17 Joe Flacco BAL 33 QB 9 9 4-5-0 232 379 61.2 2465 12 3.2 6 1.6 71 6.5 6.4 10.6 273.9 84.2 58.7 16 79 6.04 5.96 4.1    
18 Dak Prescott* DAL 25 QB 16 16 10-6-0 356 526 67.7 3885 22 4.2 8 1.5 90 7.4 7.5 10.9 242.8 96.9 58.6 56 347 6.08 6.22 9.6 3 5
19 Cam Newton CAR 29 QB 14 14 6-8-0 320 471 67.9 3395 24 5.1 13 2.8 82 7.2 7.0 10.6 242.5 94.2 57.4 29 213 6.36 6.15 5.8 2 2
20 Aaron Rodgers* GNB 35 QB 16 16 6-9-1 372 597 62.3 4442 25 4.2 2 0.3 75 7.4 8.1 11.9 277.6 97.6 56.8 49 353 6.33 6.96 7.6 3 3
21 Nick Mullens SFO 23 QB 8 8 3-5-0 176 274 64.2 2277 13 4.7 10 3.6 85 8.3 7.6 12.9 284.6 90.8 56.2 17 127 7.39 6.74 5.8 0 1
22 Baker Mayfield CLE 23 QB 14 13 6-7-0 310 486 63.8 3725 27 5.6 14 2.9 71 7.7 7.5 12.0 266.1 93.7 55.7 25 173 6.95 6.77 4.9 3 4
23 Alex Smith WAS 34 QB 10 10 6-4-0 205 328 62.5 2180 10 3.0 5 1.5 52 6.6 6.6 10.6 218.0 85.7 53.8 22 121 5.88 5.81 6.3    
24 Marcus Mariota TEN 25 QB 14 13 7-6-0 228 331 68.9 2528 11 3.3 8 2.4 61 7.6 7.2 11.1 180.6 92.3 53.1 42 243 6.13 5.75 11.3 2 3
25 Josh Allen BUF 22 QB 12 11 5-6-0 169 320 52.8 2074 10 3.1 12 3.8 75 6.5 5.4 12.3 172.8 67.9 52.3 28 213 5.35 4.37 8.0 2 3
26 Eli Manning NYG 37 QB 16 16 5-11-0 380 576 66.0 4299 21 3.6 11 1.9 58 7.5 7.3 11.3 268.7 92.4 51.2 47 358 6.33 6.21 7.5 1 2
27 Matthew Stafford DET 30 QB 16 16 6-10-0 367 555 66.1 3777 21 3.8 11 2.0 67 6.8 6.7 10.3 236.1 89.9 50.9 40 255 5.92 5.79 6.7 0 1
28 Derek Carr OAK 27 QB 16 16 4-12-0 381 553 68.9 4049 19 3.4 10 1.8 66 7.3 7.2 10.6 253.1 93.9 49.3 51 299 6.21 6.09 8.4 3 3
29 Case Keenum DEN 30 QB 16 16 6-10-0 365 586 62.3 3890 18 3.1 15 2.6 64 6.6 6.1 10.7 243.1 81.2 47.9 34 235 5.90 5.39 5.5 3 4
30 Sam Darnold NYJ 21 QB 13 13 4-9-0 239 414 57.7 2865 17 4.1 15 3.6 76 6.9 6.1 12.0 220.4 77.6 47.9 30 204 5.99 5.24 6.8 1 1
31 Blake Bortles JAX 26 QB 13 12 3-9-0 243 403 60.3 2718 13 3.2 11 2.7 80 6.7 6.2 11.2 209.1 79.8 44.1 31 173 5.86 5.32 7.1 0 1
32 Ryan Tannehill MIA 30 QB 11 11 5-6-0 176 274 64.2 1979 17 6.2 9 3.3 75 7.2 7.0 11.2 179.9 92.7 33.1 35 279 5.50 5.29 11.3 3 3
33 Josh Rosen ARI 21 QB 14 13 3-10-0 217 393 55.2 2278 11 2.8 14 3.6 75 5.8 4.8 10.5 162.7 66.7 26.6 45 320 4.47 3.53 10.3 1  
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12 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

only #28-33 had a worse QBR than Kaps last two seasons, two were rookies (not 6 year players)

In the last year he played, #23-30 were worse (the 30 QBs who started the majority of their team's games that year, which is all PFR had), the next year it was #s 24-32 that were worse than him. I don't think this whole cherry-picking QBR thing is showing him as a guy who is 1. "barely" better than Nathan Peterman (QBRs of 13 and 6 the last two years. Thirteen. And. Six.) or 2. A guy not worthy of a backup spot in the NFL. We're comparing him to starting QBs in the NFL in these stats, but the argument is that he's barely better than Nathan Peterman. There's a reason Nathan Peterman's QBR isn't being shown in these stats.

 

Not to mention his top 2 receivers that year were Jeremy Kerley and some guy named Quinton Patton (who hasn't played since 2016). But let's not mention that. Same way we won't mention the 49ers had the worst total and rushing Defense in the league that year while blaming Kaep for a 1-10 record.

 

You could say that QBRs across the board have gone up in 2018, so maybe the game has passed him by, obviously passing has gotten better in the NFL for a multitude of reasons. I suppose that's an argument, but it doesn't address why every other QB in the PFR stats in 2016 still has a job and he doesn't. Statistically speaking. We know why he doesn't have a job.

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6 minutes ago, Foosters said:

There are 33 QBs employed in the NFL?  Your "facts" are incomplete.

Well the backups don’t generally generate stats so simply imagining them and then comparing them to a hypothetical Kap who hasn’t played in two years seems like an exercise in futility. 

And certainly not fact

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4 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

In the last year he played, #23-30 were worse (the 30 QBs who started the majority of their team's games that year, which is all PFR had), the next year it was #s 24-32 that were worse than him. I don't think this whole cherry-picking QBR thing is showing him as a guy who is 1. "barely" better than Nathan Peterman (QBRs of 13 and 6 the last two years. Thirteen. And. Six.) or 2. A guy not worthy of a backup spot in the NFL. We're comparing him to starting QBs in the NFL in these stats, but the argument is that he's barely better than Nathan Peterman. There's a reason Nathan Peterman's QBR isn't being shown in these stats.

 

Not to mention his top 2 receivers that year were Jeremy Kerley and some guy named Quinton Patton (who hasn't played since 2016). But let's not mention that. Same way we won't mention the 49ers had the worst total and rushing Defense in the league that year while blaming Kaep for a 1-10 record.

Forget about it.  ChickenSandwich is not going to admit that Kapernick was good enough to be signed by a team. According to him, he was worse than every starter and you cant compare him to backups because we have no way to know how good or bad the backups are 

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He's 31, hasn't played football the last two seasons, hasn't played well in five years and brings massive baggage and distraction to whoever signs him.  WTF would anyone sign this idiot as their backup QB?  Maybe Carolina wants to earn some SJW brownie points after the Richardson fiasco?

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Forget about it.  ChickenSandwich is not going to admit that Kapernick was good enough to be signed by a team. According to him, he was worse than every starter and you cant compare him to backups because we have no way to know how good or bad the backups are 

Being a middling backup qp is perfect for a protest/collusion act.  If CK was a top 5 qb then teams would still offer him and he couldn't claim victimhood.  And if he was inept then no one would buy the collusion story [insert your own political joke]

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1 hour ago, alincoln said:

He's 31, hasn't played football the last two seasons, hasn't played well in five years and brings massive baggage and distraction to whoever signs him.  WTF would anyone sign this idiot as their backup QB?  Maybe Carolina wants to earn some SJW brownie points after the Richardson fiasco?

I dunno. We weren't discussing that, but yeah, I'd agree that no one would want to sign him based on the baggage. 

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At some point the distraction to the team isn’t worth whatever production you hope for on the field. A circus environment can derail an entire season, and every GM and HC had to know what their season would be about if they signed him. Had he vowed to not be a distraction and just play football, he probably would have been signed. If he would have accepted a backup role with no expectation of starting, also a good chance he would have been signed. Juice wasn’t worth that squeeze. 

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11 hours ago, sublime said:

No not going under, but yes to declining market share. And not just to Vans, to that style of shoe. 

I live in California and I don't see "sneakers" anywhere. Not in SF, not in LA. That's a fashion precursor.

Yep.  I wear my "retired" running shoes everywhere.  My daughter's a runner, too, but she won't do that.  She buys Vans.  So do most of her friends.  

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On 2/15/2019 at 8:09 PM, Mileslong said:

What was this millionaire protesting, please enlighten us

Police brutality and the kkkrooked kkkriminal justice system. But hey I get it, you're not affected so you think it's a facade or simply don't care, because you're not affected. I'm a disabled veteran and I love it. The opinion of those not impacted really doesn't mean anything to me. I know what it is. So !@#$ those that oppose, and continue to mask racism with fake patriotism. Fuck the anthem too. How many white people would stand for a song that talked about killing them in the 3rd stanza. Fuck a symbol that degrades me. I love people, not symbols. Whitesplaining doesn't move me.

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