2020 ATH Mookie Cooper

[Scholz 12068]

Coaches stated as much. But way to ignore your specious logic of Mookie’s sudden flip after being all UT the past year and a half.

Edited March 8, 2019 by Scholz

[Capn81 388]

Google?

You made the claim. Back it up or admit you are talking out of your ass.

[Capn81 388]

Coaches stated as much. But way to ignore your specious logic of Mookie’s sudden flip after being all UT the past year and a half.

Two edits in 60 seconds? Nice work.

[Scholz 12068]

I changed my statement. Coaches said so. Your logic is retarded btw.

[Capn81 388]

I changed my statement. Coaches said so. Your logic is retarded btw.

Lulz.

[Scholz 12068]

Back up your logic then. Mookie didn’t know about this HS coach the past year and a half? Lulz indeed.

[Capn81 388]

Back up your logic then. Mookie didn’t know about this HS coach the past year and a half? Lulz indeed.

Of course he did. He is a teenager. Their decisions change with the wind, and I am sure that his cousin (Shammond Cooper) is also in his ear.

But since this is the first kid ever to flip like this, I am sure that you are right.

[Machinator 32099]

1 minute ago, Capn81 said:

 

Of course he did. He is a teenager. Their decisions change with the wind, and I am sure that his cousin (Shammond Cooper) is also in his ear.

But since this is the first kid ever to flip like this, I am sure that you are right.

 

Mookie and Shammond aren't related.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2018/5/11/17323730/cory-patterson-illinois-football-recruit-trinity-catholic-st-louis-lovie-smith

[Capn81 388]

Mookie and Shammond aren't related.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2018/5/11/17323730/cory-patterson-illinois-football-recruit-trinity-catholic-st-louis-lovie-smith

 

Stand corrected one that one, but all of the teammates are still talking to him. That point still stands.

[Scholz 12068]

I’m not making up the rumors about Ill payments. M.Beason and I.Williams committed early and out of the blue last year as well.

But I’m sure your intimations that players couldn’t possibly be paid up there rings true. Makes all the sense given the immediate and sudden 180.

[texifornia 57283]

1 minute ago, Capn81 said:

 

Stand corrected one that one, but all of the teammates are still talking to him. That point still stands.

Don't be obtuse. It's pretty easy to parse the regular flips and the sketchy ones.

[Capn81 388]

I’m not making up the rumors about Ill payments. M.Beason and I.Williams committed early and out of the blue last year as well.

But I’m sure your intimations that players couldn’t possibly be paid up there rings true. Makes all the sense given the immediate and sudden 180.

 

And do you think that we do not do the same? Seriously? I have some bridges to sell you if you do. That is the game. Also, is you think that Illinois has more “resources” than we do, I have a few more bridges to add the to the list.

[Scholz 12068]

If we played that game we’d never lose a recruit. Our alumni have more $ than Davey Crockett.

Edited March 8, 2019 by Scholz

[Capn81 388]

Don't be obtuse. It's pretty easy to parse the regular flips and the sketchy ones.

Oh sure there are some, but there are too many connections on this one for me to ignore. My guess is that he saw the competition, and wanted to go somewhere were he was not going to be recruited over. Happens frequently.

[Capn81 388]

If we played that game we’d never lose a recruit. Our alumni have more $ than Davey Crockett.

Sure, we would be amongst the heavy hitters (and we are). But many other schools have similar alumni.

[Scholz 12068]

Mookie Cooper is in no danger of being recruited over anywhere. Ridiculous notion.

[Scholz 12068]

1 minute ago, Capn81 said:

Sure, we would be amongst the heavy hitters (and we are). But many other schools have similar alumni.

 

So why’d we whiff on top tier RBs in our last class? We don’t play that game.

[Capn81 388]

So why’d we whiff on top tier RBs in our last class? We don’t play that game.

Maybe because other schools gave better offers?

[BigVegasHorn26 630]

Stop feeding the troll.  

[Scholz 12068]

Just now, Capn81 said:

Maybe because other schools gave better offers?

 

I thought we were a heavy hitter though? More great logic from you that we wouldn’t buy a position we’re in dire need for.

[Capn81 388]

I thought we were a heavy hitter though? More great logic from you that we wouldn’t buy a position we’re in dire need for.

You can be one of the heavy hitters and still lose the game. This is seriously not hard to understand.

[SquishMitten 10466]

7 minutes ago, Capn81 said:

 

Sure, we would be amongst the heavy hitters (and we are). But many other schools have similar alumni.

 

The hell you talking about? Please list all the recruits that a) were 100% committed elsewhere, b) had never considered us as a likely destination, c) visited once, and d) flipped to us immediately?

[Scholz 12068]

What’s not hard to see is that Illinois is buying players. Unless one is being intentionally obtuse. Or a moron.

[Capn81 388]

The hell you talking about? Please list all the recruits that a) were 100% committed elsewhere, b) had never considered us as a likely destination, c) visited once, and d) flipped to us immediately?

What are you talking about? Are you saying that Mookie was not considering Illinois before he “magically” flipped? Illinois was the first school to offer him. He took multiple unofficial visits to Illinois before his official visit. Illinois offered him way before we did. Illinois was always in the mix for Mookie and that % grew when Patterson was hired on at Illinois.

[Capn81 388]

What’s not hard to see is that Illinois is buying players. Unless one is being intentionally obtuse. Or a moron.

So by your logic, the underdog never wins? The big guys never get outworked? Maybe they are paying. I don’t give a shit if they are, but being obtuse is thinking that this isn’t the game that gets played every day.

[Scholz 12068]

26 minutes ago, Capn81 said:

So by your logic, the underdog never wins? 

 

Yeah.  That's an honest assessment of my position.

[Scholz 12068]

1 hour ago, Capn81 said:

Illinois hired their old high school coach, who they all seem to love, a few years back. This has been the biggest driver.

Let's see the "link" on this one, hoss.  Or were you just talking out of your ass?  

[JFKFC 4947]

 

[BigVegasHorn26 630]

5 hours ago, Machinator said:

 

[Capn81 388]

Let's see the "link" on this one, hoss.  Or were you just talking out of your ass?  

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjoqe3crvPgAhWE8oMKHeEUDnsQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Ftexas%2FArticle%2FTexas-Longhorns-Football-Recruiting-Four-star-ATH-Mookie-Cooper-decommits-from-Texas-Longhorns-football-recruiting--129836001%2F&psig=AOvVaw1UWDMCRFzeURWtn6ipG5XG&ust=1552162684591895

The strong ties mentioned here are what you need to know.

[Scholz 12068]

1 minute ago, Capn81 said:

The strong ties mentioned here are what you need to know.

 

Yes, the former coach had ties to him and his 2 teammates.  Probably aided in the payoffs.  Says nothing about being the biggest driver.  One could just as easily extrapolate that the 2.5 hr drive was the main reason.  Or his 2 teammates being there.  Fail.

[Capn81 388]

Let's see the "link" on this one, hoss.  Or were you just talking out of your ass?  

And I am still waiting on your receipts from your earlier comment, hoss.

[Scholz 12068]

Read the coaches comments on this board.  I don't care to hunt them down but I'm not making it up.  Others can confirm.  Believe it or not, doesn't faze me.

Your link to that article proved nothing.  Your opinion of why he went there has the same amount of proof of my opinion.  Mine is more plausible given the timeline and sudden about face however.

[Capn81 388]

Yes, the former coach had ties to him and his 2 teammates.  Probably aided in the payoffs.  Says nothing about being the biggest driver.  One could just as easily extrapolate that the 2.5 hr drive was the main reason.  Or his 2 teammates being there.  Fail.

Not a fail. If you cannot see the impact that this will have, I cannot help you. You also think that a team that cannot crack the top 50 in recruiting, and will not with Mookie, are cheating. Not much proof in that pudding.

[Capn81 388]

Read the coaches comments on this board.  I don't care to hunt them down but I'm not making it up.  Others can confirm.  Believe it or not, doesn't faze me.
Your link to that article proved nothing.  Your opinion of why he went there has the same amount of proof of my opinion.  Mine is more plausible given the timeline and sudden about face however.

Scholz. We will just have to agree to disagree. Trust me, I can be the biggest dipshit in the world. I just think there is too much at play/too many ties here to automatically jump to cheating.

[Scholz 12068]

Fair enough.  Agree to disagree.  Stinks to high heaven to me though.  Looks and feels just like Ole Miss to me.

[Capn81 388]

Fair enough.  Agree to disagree.  Stinks to high heaven to me though.  Looks and feels just like Ole Miss to me.

Lol, I could see it but man Illinois isn’t sniffing the type of classes that Ole Miss had.

[Scholz 12068]

Yeah but they're freaking Illinois.

[Capn81 388]

Yeah but they're freaking Illinois.

Haha. Full disclosure I live in Champaign, and I was shocked when he committed to Texas. Seriously, the talk up here was that he was Illini lean the whole way. Not sure how it all flipped but I was not shocked to see him decommit.

[Bear19 82]

1 hour ago, Capn81 said:

 

You can be one of the heavy hitters and still lose the game. This is seriously not hard to understand.

 

Apparently, it is for you.

[Capn81 388]

Apparently, it is for you.

Cool.

[BigHorn'13 3455]

3 hours ago, RGBIII said:

And at this point what does Lovie have to lose

What's Lov(i)e got to do, got to do with it?

[South Austin 52746]

Just now, BigHorn'13 said:

What's Lov(i)e got to do, got to do with it?

Who needs a verbal, when a verbal can be broken.

[Michael Knight 13051]

4 hours ago, Machinator said:

IT mods said that Bama "bowled a perfect game" for Trey Sanders.

300 hundred dollars?! Man that's a bargain

[Sgt Hulk 14095]

pets heads

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1617]

He decomitted, not flipped.  He’s even been quoted as saying he’s starting at square one with recruiting.  To claim or allude that he, or anyone else close to him for that matter, was paid just to decommit is flat fucking dumb.

It was probably pretty easy for Illinois to push their line of thought. I imagine it probably went something like this, “Your coach whom you’ve know most of your life is here, you’d be closer to home, you have friends/teammates here, and we’ve landed some decent players this past class.”

Its pretty a pretty simple fucking sell.  The Big 10 is top heavy and picking up two extra wins to get bowl eligible isn’t completely out of the question.  I don’t know who the fuck they play and I’m not going spend time looking it up.  I can’t imagine it would be too hard.

Calling him bought at this point is fucking stupid.

 

 

 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18666]

3 hours ago, texifornia said:

Don't be obtuse. It's pretty easy to parse the regular flips and the sketchy ones.

Exactly. The regular ones are when they flip to Texas and the sketchy ones are when they flip from Texas.

[texifornia 57283]

13 minutes ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

He decomitted, not flipped.  He’s even been quoted as saying he’s starting at square one with recruiting.  To claim or allude that he, or anyone else close to him for that matter, was paid just to decommit is flat fucking dumb.

It was probably pretty easy for Illinois to push their line of thought. I imagine it probably went something like this, “Your coach whom you’ve know most of your life is here, you’d be closer to home, you have friends/teammates here, and we’ve landed some decent players this past class.”

Its pretty a pretty simple fucking sell.  The Big 10 is top heavy and picking up two extra wins to get bowl eligible isn’t completely out of the question.  I don’t know who the fuck they play and I’m not going spend time looking it up.  I can’t imagine it would be too hard.

Calling him bought at this point is fucking stupid.

 

 

 

Eh believe what you want but Illinois has been in some really scuzzy recruitments recently and this one stinks. Compare it to no one saying Rondale was bought, for instance.

[cochamps 1879]

2 hours ago, Capn81 said:

 

Haha. Full disclosure I live in Champaign, and I was shocked when he committed to Texas. Seriously, the talk up here was that he was Illini lean the whole way. Not sure how it all flipped but I was not shocked to see him decommit.

 

Reading your posts, I surmised that you are a poor, dumb bastard.  Now I have confirmation.

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1617]

17 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Eh believe what you want but Illinois has been in some really scuzzy recruitments recently and this one stinks. Compare it to no one saying Rondale was bought, for instance.

I’m not saying they haven’t.  I’m simply saying it could have been that easy for them and it would make sense.  It’s scarily similar to Rondale’s actually and we wished him the best.  

He seems like a good dude so why not give him the benefit of a doubt for the time being?  If he flips tomorrow, then yeah.  I’ll hop on the train just like the rest of us hopped on the train on South Austin’s mom.

Edited March 8, 2019 by GlenFromTheMailRoom