Surly Cricket Thread

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

It sounded like rain was expected. That being the case why wouldn’t you bring Bumrah back earlier to get in as many overs as possible?  I’m just following on the scorecard for now so maybe this was the right move?

[satyanash 14,474]

16 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

It sounded like rain was expected. That being the case why wouldn’t you bring Bumrah back earlier to get in as many overs as possible?  I’m just following on the scorecard for now so maybe this was the right move?

They screwed up trying to finish Chahal's spell. Taylor butchered him for 18 runs off that over before Kumar got CdG (and nearly Taylor!) the next over.

D/L par score after 46 overs is 237. That's a tough ask on this pitch. 148 if it becomes a 20-over chase.

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

My Kiwi buddy was praying for 230 about halfway through the innings 

[satyanash 14,474]

Forecast is looking bad, they're calling for more rain throughout the day and D/L score will almost certainly factor in to the outcome.

From CricInfo:

Possibilities:

- Play resumes before roughly 3pm GMT: No reduction, NZ continues their innings.

- Play resumes after roughly 3pm GMT: Reduction in overs, India will face a DLS target.

- Play resumes after 3pm, but there is further interruption today and play cannot be finished: India will have a DLS target posted (because we start losing overs at about 3pm), they will face the same target tomorrow whereever they left off. So say they have to chase 200 in 35 overs, and are 100-3 after 20 when there's more rain. They'd pick up on that 100-3 after 20 tomorrow, chasing the same 200 in 35.

- No further play is possible today: We will continue the match as in (1) above, with no reduction.

- No further play is possible today or tomorrow: India advance to the final, as they were the better team in the Group Stage.

[satyanash 14,474]

From here on, overs are going to start getting taken off. No way to avoid D/L now.

There's a reserve day, but it can only be used if today is exhausted. Really hope it just rains all day now so India can get a full 50 overs to chase tomorrow, instead of a rain-shortened 20 overs or something.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

Yep, best hope is for no resumption today.

[satyanash 14,474]

Looks like there will be no further play today. 

[satyanash 14,474]

Oh fuck. The rain's stopped, they're going to start with India chasing a revised target.

[satyanash 14,474]

Hahaha it JUST started raining again as they brought the umps back on! This is comical.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

In reference to the graphic you posted about what happens in washouts, it would be so fitting if AUS vs ENG get washed out and AUS advance without playing a single ball.  It would serve the ECB right for shitty tournament organization the first half of the tournament and blatant changes to the pitches once England was on the brink.

[satyanash 14,474]

Welp. Absolutely nightmarish start to the innings.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

India won’t get 100 much less chase this down.  What a bunch of chokes.

[satyanash 14,474]

Fucking Dinesh Karthik throws away his wicket needlessly. Why does he still get picked

[satyanash 14,474]

Pant caught at cow corner. India's last hope gone.

What an awful end to this World Cup campaign.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

These guys should be ashamed of themselves.  CT 2017 was awful, this is worse.

Last three World Cup SF innings for Kohli:  9 runs, 1 run and 1 run.  

Edited July 10, 2019 by Fudge Nuggets

[satyanash 14,474]

 

[satyanash 14,474]

Holy fuck what an ending. India came so close to pulling off the impossible comeback.

Then this happened.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

Jadeja nearly became a national hero.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

I am cheering for the rain to win the next two days.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

England have to be about the luckiest team their last two or three matches.  The Steve Smith run out was baffling, ball went right between his legs while he's in full stride and finds the wicket.

[satyanash 14,474]

You've got this, England... just don't choke like India did.

 

[satyanash 14,474]

Can't really ask for a better start than what England has. 80 for no loss in 14 overs.

[Bateshorn 9,927]

Wow the Australian's shat themselves.

[satyanash 14,474]

Mitchell Starc's getting proper brutalized. Best bowler of the tournament heading into knockouts, and he's been smashed for 38 runs in four overs.

[satyanash 14,474]

Roy just went beast-mode. Three consecutive sixes off of Steve Smith.

This is over. We'll have a first-time World Cup champion on Sunday.

[satyanash 14,474]

I wonder who's going to win Man of the Tournament award... All three of the favourites heading into the SFs (Rohit Sharma, David Warner, Mitchell Starc) have performed horribly in their SF matches.

 

[Bateshorn 9,927]

My lord, the English finally found their proper batting form and how.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Mitchell Starc's getting proper brutalized. Best bowler of the tournament heading into knockouts, and he's been smashed for 38 runs in four overs.

He sucked against South Africa as well.  I wonder if he ran out of gas?

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

55 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Roy just went beast-mode. Three consecutive sixes off of Steve Smith.

This is over. We'll have a first-time World Cup champion on Sunday.

I'll be at the Kiwi Bar on Soi 8 in Bangkok for that one with my Kiwi buddy.  I fear the Black Caps are going to get shit stomped, but it will be a blast none the less.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

41 minutes ago, satyanash said:

I wonder who's going to win Man of the Tournament award... All three of the favourites heading into the SFs (Rohit Sharma, David Warner, Mitchell Starc) have performed horribly in their SF matches.

 

Why not?

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

That LBW on Taylor was absolute shit umpiring.  Even live you could tell it was missing high by a mile.

fucking ICC handing this tournament to the damn World XI

[satyanash 14,474]

Latham with some terrible batting at the death. Brits won't have a very big total to chase...

[satyanash 14,474]

242 is the target. Shocking if England can't chase this.

[satyanash 14,474]

Hmm, England on shaky ground right now. 71/3 after Ferguson's dismissal of Bairstow.

Edited July 14, 2019 by satyanash

[UDontKnow 10,439]

Super Over. Kiwis made a mess of it and let Ben Stokes drag the sinking English ship to a tie with all wickets gone.

[Longhornmaniac8 255]

Absolute fucking insanity. Boundaries is a really dumb fucking way to decide a match. But still, between this and the Wimbledon final, that's a fuckload of sporting drama for one 45-minute period in one city.

Wow.

[satyanash 14,474]

 

[Bateshorn 9,927]

God, how devastating for the Kiwis.  That freak deflection for 4 should have the entire nation on suicide watch. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

Let’s just say the Kiwi Bar in Bangkok was a bit perturbed at the result of the match.  What an absolute butt fucking that was.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

7 hours ago, Longhornmaniac8 said:

Absolute fucking insanity. Boundaries is a really dumb fucking way to decide a match. But still, between this and the Wimbledon final, that's a fuckload of sporting drama for one 45-minute period in one city.

Wow.

Fuck England / United Nations XI

[satyanash 14,474]

😶

 

[satyanash 14,474]

Wow. Because the batsmen hadn't crossed when the throw made contact with Stokes' bat, only five runs should have been awarded instead of six. Huge umpiring mistake.

 

[satyanash 14,474]

Rohit Sharma finishes as the top-scorer with 648 total runs. Second only to the 673 runs Tendukar blasted in 2003.

 

[satyanash 14,474]

Man of the series is Kiwi captain Kane Williamson. Like Federer, he literally got as close as possible to winning the title without actually securing it 😞

 

[UDontKnow 10,439]

26 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Man of the series is Kiwi captain Kane Williamson. Like Federer, he literally got as close as possible to winning the title without actually securing it 😞

 

Give the Roger Federer thing a rest, will you? It's not like you haven't already created a thread to worship the ground he walks on and we're all subject to reading your references to him in other threads.

[APMP 688]

Wow. Because the batsmen hadn't crossed when the throw made contact with Stokes' bat, only five runs should have been awarded instead of six. Huge umpiring mistake.
 

The law is unfortunately ambiguous. I can see an interpretation where it's five, but can also see one where it's six.

19.8 Overthrow or wilful act of fielder

If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be

          any runs for penalties awarded to either side

and     the allowance for the boundary

and     the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had

          already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.


So we have a boundary that has happened as a result of Guptil's overthrow/act. Under the law, it would clearly be 4 runs allowance for the boundary. There would also clearly be the first run that was completed before Guptill's throw. So that is five.

The ambiguous part is the second run attempted by the batsmen. The preamble of the law above says "if the boundary results," so a lot of lawyers (including me) would assume that the law is drafted for application at the time the ball went over the rope. Under that logic, the second run attempted by the batsmen is a completed run, not an in-progress run. This is because at the time the ball crossed the boundary, Stokes was safely in his crease and the batsmen stopped running). There's no in-progress run in this interpretation.

However, if the second run attempted by the batsmen should be interpreted as an in-progress run, then then the batsmen clearly had not crossed at the time of the throw. In this scenario NZ got hosed.

[Bateshorn 9,927]

I think the controlling factor is when the fielder releases the ball. Stokes was not in the crease when the ball was thrown, thus it should have been 5, not 6 runs.

Edited July 15, 2019 by Bateshorn

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

20 hours ago, Longhornmaniac8 said:

Boundaries is a really dumb fucking way to decide a match.

Maybe the ICC will go even more full regard for the 2023 WC and decide any ties with the two captains playing a round of rock, paper, scissors.

[satyanash 14,474]

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

I haven’t followed The Ashes at all, but saw on the icc website that Australia put a freaking beat down on the Poms in the first test. That’s a shame.

I think first of September is supposed to be the start of the Caribbean Premier League.  That should be entertaining, but probably not a high level of cricket.

Edited August 10, 2019 by Fudge Nuggets