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This shit is happening in 2019, folks.

 

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The editor and publisher of a small Alabama newspaper called for the Ku Klux Klan “to night ride again” against tax-raising politicians, prompting a fierce backlash and calls for his resignation.

The editor, Goodloe Sutton, published the editorial in the Thursday edition of The Democrat-Reporter, a weekly newspaper in Linden, Ala., that had about 3,000 subscribers in 2015. The editorial went largely unnoticed until Monday, when two student journalists shared photographs of it online and local news outlets reported on it.

“Time for the Ku Klux Klan to night ride again,” the editorial began, according to the clips posted online. “Democrats in the Republican Party and Democrats are plotting to raise taxes in Alabama.”

 In the editorial, Mr. Sutton blamed Democrats for the United States’ involvement in both world wars, the Korean War, the Vietnam War and the nation’s long-running involvement in the Middle East. He confirmed his authorship of the piece in an interview with The Montgomery Advertiser in which he suggested that the Klan “go up there and clean out D.C.”

“We’ll get the hemp ropes out, loop them over a tall limb and hang all of them,” he told a reporter from that publication. Mr. Sutton could not immediately be reached on Tuesday.

Representative Terri A. Sewell, a Democrat whose district includes Linden, which is about 90 miles west of Montgomery and home to about 2,000 people, called on Mr. Sutton to apologize and step down.

“For the millions of people of color who have been terrorized by white supremacy, this kind of ‘editorializing’ about lynching is not a joke — it is a threat,” she wrote on Twitter. “These comments are deeply offensive and inappropriate, especially in 2019.”

Senator Doug Jones, Democrat of Alabama, echoed that sentiment, also calling on Mr. Sutton to resign over the editorial, which he described as “absolutely disgusting.”

In the interview with The Montgomery Advertiser, Mr. Sutton played down the Klan’s long and well-documented history of violence.

“A violent organization? Well, they didn’t kill but a few people,” he said. “The Klan wasn’t violent until they needed to be.”

The Ku Klux Klan is the most infamous white supremacist group in the history of the United States, long serving as a potent symbol of violent hatred against black Americans and members of other racial and religious minority groups.

The Klan carried out lynchings and other brutal forms of racist violence, though its association to such acts was not always well documented. A 2015 report from the Equal Justice Initiative in Montgomery, Ala., documented 3,959 victims of “racial terror lynchings” in a dozen Southern states from 1877 to 1950.

In 1925, the Klan had about four million members with significant political power in some states, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. The group now has 5,000 to 8,000 members, according to the center.

Mr. Sutton began working at The Democrat-Reporter in 1964 and later inherited it from his father, according to The Montgomery Advertiser.

Like many other local newspapers, The Democrat-Reporter has experienced a steep decline in circulation. Its readership of about 3,000 subscribers in 2015 was less than half of what it once was, according to a USA Today profile at the time.

In the late 1990s, Mr. Sutton and his wife, Jean, were widely celebrated for their persistent reporting on a corrupt local sheriff, who was eventually sent to prison. At the time, their reporting stoked speculation about a potential Pulitzer Prize.

Thursday’s editorial was not the first time The Democrat-Reporter has published racist material. An editorial in May 2015 stated that a local mayor had “displayed her African heritage by not enforcing civilized law” and referred repeatedly to black people as “thugs.”

And during the national debate over football players kneeling in protest of police brutality, the paper published an editorial titled “Let football boys kneel.”

“That’s what black folks were taught to do two hundred years ago, kneel before a white man,” it read. “Is that it? Let them kneel!”

fucking what in the fucking fuck

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Just now, Horn Dog said:

Good people on both sides though.....

You do know that quote is taken out of context from the original text (unless the text of his original comments, that I've been reading for quite some time now were altered).

The fine people on both sides comment was a direct reference to the people (citizens of C'Ville) who were for and opposed to the removal of the R.E. Lee statue in C'Ville.  He specifically said he wasn't talking about the Nazis before he even made the misquoted comment about "both sides".  If I'm incorrect, point it out please. 

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Just now, Onboard 2.0 said:

You do know that quote is taken out of context from the original text (unless the text of his original comments, that I've been reading for quite some time now were altered).

The fine people on both sides comment was a direct reference to the people (citizens of C'Ville) who were for and opposed to the removal of the R.E. Lee statue in C'Ville.  He specifically said he wasn't talking about the Nazis before he even made the misquoted comment about "both sides".  If I'm incorrect, point it out please. 

Oh, that makes it better. 

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1 minute ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

You do know that quote is taken out of context from the original text (unless the text of his original comments, that I've been reading for quite some time now were altered).

The fine people on both sides comment was a direct reference to the people (citizens of C'Ville) who were for and opposed to the removal of the R.E. Lee statue in C'Ville.  He specifically said he wasn't talking about the Nazis before he even made the misquoted comment about "both sides".  If I'm incorrect, point it out please. 

I didn't realize that was referencing a specific quote as much as it was the general fallacy that both opinions are valid.

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I posted this in the right wing violence thread -

Take every Alabama stereotype you’ve ever heard, multiply it by 1,000 and you have Linden.

I’d light myself on fire before I’d ever step foot in that town.

That guy has been writing disgusting shit like that for years.

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Just now, Rimbo said:

I didn't realize that was referencing a specific quote as much as it was the general fallacy that both opinions are valid.

I never did either. I always thought it was a hugely bizarre and really fucked up thing for him to say, if he thought there were fine people who were Nazis.  

I've read the original text, and it's pretty clear from his own words what he's talking about ,and who he excludes from the "fine people on both sides" comment. Again I've been reading it from the internet, who knows if it's not a doctored document now.

The issue about the statue is/was very divisive depending on who you speak with.  That it was a state issue, and not a local issue was one of the things that made it even more divisive. Once a war memorial is erected, only the state legislature of Va. can approve its removal, regardless of who erected it out where. I'd say there were fine people on both sides of the issue because there are several facets to the situation.

I guess you could say if someone said there are fine people on both sides they're a racist, but I'd say that would make you ignorant of the whole entire issue.

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3 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I posted this in the right wing violence thread -

Take every Alabama stereotype you’ve ever heard, multiply it by 1,000 and you have Linden.

I’d light myself on fire before I’d ever step foot in that town.

That guy has been writing disgusting shit like that for years.

Well, he's gone national, now. Oval Office and everything.

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6 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

I never did either. I always thought it was a hugely bizarre and really fucked up thing for him to say, if he thought there were fine people who were Nazis.  

I've read the original text, and it's pretty clear from his own words what he's talking about ,and who he excludes from the "fine people on both sides" comment. Again I've been reading it from the internet, who knows if it's not a doctored document now.

The issue about the statue is/was very divisive depending on who you speak with.  That it was a state issue, and not a local issue was one of the things that made it even more divisive. Once a war memorial is erected, only the state legislature of Va. can approve its removal, regardless of who erected it out where. I'd say there were fine people on both sides of the issue because there are several facets to the situation.

I guess you could say if someone said there are fine people on both sides they're a racist, but I'd say that would make you ignorant of the whole entire issue.

The statement was issued shortly after a neo-nazi killed a girl and one day after nazis marched on the UVA campus, chanting "Jews will not replace us."  

Whenever a terrorist kills Americans, DJT is the first person to take to the air to vilify the terrorist, the ideology, and any entity that associates with that terrorist. Unless the terrorist is a white American nationalist. Then, its nuanced calls for peace from both sides.

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21 minutes ago, Foosters said:

The statement was issued shortly after a neo-nazi killed a girl and one day after nazis marched on the UVA campus, chanting "Jews will not replace us."  

Whenever a terrorist kills Americans, DJT is the first person to take to the air to vilify the terrorist, the ideology, and any entity that associates with that terrorist. Unless the terrorist is a white American nationalist. Then, its nuanced calls for peace from both sides.

You're not addressing the quote, and how its been used.  I don't remember the exact timeline, so what you're saying may be accurate.

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Onboard is once again carrying water for the racist POTUS.  Here's the fucking exchange, Onboard.  Defend this:

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REPORTER: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides?

TRUMP: I do think there is blame – yes, I think there is blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, and if you reported it accurately, you would say.

 

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2 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

Someone here will take his place on this

Actually, the vast majority of the "Obama is a deranged socialist running our country into the ground" posters have crawled under rocks since DJT started running things. There are only a handful left who will attempt to defend him. The others who are still around spend most of their time away from the politics board until they see something like the Smollet incident and rush to the boards to point out...I'm not sure what, but in their minds it counts as a victory.

I'm sure whenever the next D takes office, they'll come running back to again lecture us on the dangers of a ballooning debt and an overreaching executive branch.

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Just now, Foosters said:

Actually, the vast majority of the "Obama is a deranged socialist running our country into the ground" posters have crawled under rocks since DJT started running things. There are only a handful left who will attempt to defend him. The others who are still around spend most of their time away from the politics board until they see something like the Smollet incident and rush to the boards to point out...I'm not sure what, but in their minds it counts as a victory.

I'm sure whenever the next D takes office, they'll come running back to again lecture us on the dangers of a ballooning debt and an overreaching executive branch.

 They're staring reverse racism threads on the Daily Texan board under the guise of news.

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20 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Also, I feel like this kind of post would've been a hill FCHorn wouldve happily died on. 

/Puts on blackface 

/Goes to liquor store and buys a fifth of the cheapest gin they have and tells the vaguely ethnic clerk to go back to where he came from

/Drives around and yells at minorities to pull up their pants 

/Makes incredibly unclever joke and laughs hilariously to self 

/Posts the same thing 2,000 times in a day

/Gets insanely angry about women existing

/Attempts to come up with 10 nicknames for Obama, gives up after finding out someone already come up with Obummer Insane Nobama 

 

I have completed my training. I am ready. 

 

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1 minute ago, Hank Scorpio said:

/Puts on blackface 

/Goes to liquor store and buys a fifth of the cheapest gin they have and tells the vaguely ethnic clerk to go back to where he came from

/Drives around and yells at minorities to pull up their pants 

/Makes incredibly unclever joke and laughs hilariously to self 

/Posts the same thing 2,000 times in a day

/Gets insanely angry about women existing

 

I have completed my training. I am ready. 

 

/Claims to read historical tomes at a rate of 3 per week while simultaneously posting 24/7 on shaggy

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7 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I'm sure whenever the next D takes office, they'll come running back to again lecture us on the dangers of a ballooning debt and an overreaching executive branch.

And when this inevitably occurs, both on this board and in real life, the only answer is "get fucked".  Period.  End of discussion.

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I'd like to point out that even excluding the KKK thing, I have no idea what that article is even about.  How does this guy have a job in journalism?

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[2 paragraphs on raising taxes instead of cutting costs.]

"People who do not understand the constitution do not like to be responsible."

 

Is that just some random sentence out of left field?  Does he think they tie together somehow?  Was there some constitutional argument in there I missed?

 

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"Slaves, just freed after the civil war, were not stupid. At times, they borrowed their former masters' robes and horses and rode through the night to frighten some evil doer.  Sometimes they had to kill one or two of them, but so what.

"This is the same so what used when Democrats got us into WWI, and WWII. . ."  

 

Any idea what on earth that is supposed to mean?  Reconstruction era klansmen were the black folk?  And they had to kill sometimes?  Which is good, I think he's saying?  Which was the same mentality that led us into world wars, which is bad I think he's saying?  

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Democrats got us into . . . the Middle East war.


 

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14 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

I'd like to point out that even excluding the KKK thing, I have no idea what that article is even about.  How does this guy have a job in journalism?

The dude owns the paper. I keep reading outraged calls for his resignation, like he gives one single fuck. Whatever "circulation" he has amassed over the last 20+ years in his backward corner of that backward state,  I'm going to climb out here on a limb and assume his latest viewpoint isn't exactly a surprise with his readership. 

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The thing that I always wonder about lynching numbers is how are they categorized.  I mean is something like what happened in Slocum, Texas or Tulsa Oklahoma where they literally bombed people from the sky counted in the total? What about any number of race riots in Chicago, New York, or Boston, are they counted?  Or is that simply another category that doesn't fall under the category of lynching? 

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2 hours ago, Foosters said:

/Claims to read historical tomes at a rate of 3 per week while simultaneously posting 24/7 on shaggy

2 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

/Puts on blackface 

/Goes to liquor store and buys a fifth of the cheapest gin they have and tells the vaguely ethnic clerk to go back to where he came from

/Drives around and yells at minorities to pull up their pants 

/Makes incredibly unclever joke and laughs hilariously to self 

/Posts the same thing 2,000 times in a day

/Gets insanely angry about women existing

/Attempts to come up with 10 nicknames for Obama, gives up after finding out someone already come up with Obummer Insane Nobama 

 

I have completed my training. I am ready. 

 

/Knew nothing about the Chris Kyle story despite being on the Internet all day everyday

 

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2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Irony.

You wouldn't know it if I stuck it up your ass David.

Don't you have some pretend victim to go rescue ranger?  Why you spending time here man?

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4 hours ago, Foosters said:

Actually, the vast majority of the "Obama is a deranged socialist running our country into the ground" posters have crawled under rocks since DJT started running things. There are only a handful left who will attempt to defend him. The others who are still around spend most of their time away from the politics board until they see something like the Smollet incident and rush to the boards to point out...I'm not sure what, but in their minds it counts as a victory.

I'm sure whenever the next D takes office, they'll come running back to again lecture us on the dangers of a ballooning debt and an overreaching executive branch.

I still contend that these particular types of people actually hate being in power and operate best when able to rage against the evil libs 24/7. Their dream world, even though they don't realize it, would actually be a Hillary presidency... 

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15 minutes ago, Continental Op said:

But you see some dude from TV made up a fake attack so the KKK must be allowed to operate without reproach.  

Wow, that's quite the binary leap.

Really?

"He called out David therefore he LOVES the Klan!!!"

How Klan-like in your thinking.

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Just now, Cajun said:

Wow, that's quite the binary leap.

Really?

"He called out David therefore he LOVES the Klan!!!"

How Klan-like in your thinking.

He made a great point in another thread: did you get this fired up about Ashley Todd or are you just excited because you caught a gay, black man making stuff up about imaginary white people?

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Ashley Todd can smoke a turd in hell.

You see David, for some of us they're all just plain lying fucks.

We don't need to wring our hands looking for all the separating qualifiers like you.  But you do you man, pretend victims everywhere are counting on you and your guilt to come to the rescue.

I know you thought that was some really clever gotcha question to post up, but I hate to break it to ya...

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