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19 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

 


fucking idiots...that’s just more room for me at Sacsee’s.

it’s rampant here...i see it daily in my profession. “DWB” is the dominant reason why someone shows up in my office.

 

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Hugo Stiglitz

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9 minutes ago, F250 said:

Even if you only followed Trump's 3 hour rant via Tweets, you probably lost about 50 IQ points. That's a serious toxic level of idiocy that is unhealthy for the mind.

Speech was 38 minutes over the runtime for Idiocracy.

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Most of my friends are Republicans and most of them are smart, decent people. What I don’t understand and they won’t explain is why they put sticking it to the libs ahead of letting themselves be clowned at the expense of American interests.

We are all being fucking clowned. Every objective, sane person on the planet sees him for what he proudly is, a bright neon sign of pure absurd idiocy...and the GOP gleefully says “yep, that’s our guy!” Folks, we’re all laughing AT you, not with you.
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43 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Most of my friends are Republicans and most of them are smart, decent people. What I don’t understand and they won’t explain is why they put sticking it to the libs ahead of letting themselves be clowned at the expense of American interests.

They've internalized the GOP strategy of the last four decades. Run on hate. Claim you were elected for love.

My opponent hates God and America, unlike you, my friends. It's their hidden agenda to destroy what you hold dear. These liberals are feminazis, environmental wackos, and dangerous socialists. They don't just support Choice, they actually get a kick out of abortions because they like killing babies.

We were elected to control the budget, be the adults, reduce regulations, unleash the potential of the entrepreneur, spend a lot of money on defense. [whispering] Hey there, Mr. Traditional Republican, the important thing is that we got elected. Don't worry about the things we say while running. We don't mean them!

They actually don't mean what they say either before or after the election. They've just employed a strategy of saying they despise the trough so that they can be first in line at the trough. They didn't anticipate that their campaign rhetoric would become their party. They thought they could control the mob they created. 

Along comes a half-ass demagogue and takes the reins. Only then do many traditional GOPs wake up and spit out the shit they've been negligently dishing onto their plates. Not all have done so. They still have elected representatives that they've supported for years in office. They don't want to face up to the truth about their party.

I don't blame them. I've been dead wrong and not wanted to admit it, either. Imagine that that wrong has woven into part of your personal identity, your personal pride. Your world turns upside down.

As a Dem voter, I live with disappointment in my representatives. I never use "Democrat" in describing who I am. As I once wrote on Hornfans, you can tell more about me from being a Longhorn than voting Dem.

I admire the intelligent GOPs who have turned away from their party. I hope they find a good place for their voice to return to the political discourse. That voice is important. This should never have been turned into a war where one side of the spectrum actually wants to see the destruction of the other side of the spectrum.

Sorry for running on so.

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7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


We are all being fucking clowned. Every objective, sane person on the planet sees him for what he proudly is, a bright neon sign of pure absurd idiocy...and the GOP gleefully says “yep, that’s our guy!” Folks, we’re all laughing AT you, not with you.

A few years ago when I was knee deep in the Russia stuff looking at what they were doing I thought to myself, “It looks like America got pranked into electing Trump and this could be the greatest troll in human history.”  Then I thought, “Wow that seems too absurd and not possible.”

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You're unbelievable man.  My sister-in-law, who was born in Virginia, but is of Chinese ancestry, was in motherfucking Costco a few weeks ago and some redneck motherfucker comes up to her and asks to see her driver license.  She asked why and he said, "well, are you from here?"  She was the bigger person and just walked away.  Fuck you.
 
Edit: this was in Austin, one of the most liberal cities in America.  But I'm sure it was isolated and nothing like that ever happens in rural towns or other cities in the south or midwest.  Again, fuck you.

She missed her opportunity to say “ no happy ending for you!”

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Hugo Stiglitz

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23 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Trump at CPAC, or a Hitler speech.   Looks like the same thing to me.

 

What makes them similar?  Hitler was an evil this world rarely sees but those speeches look nothing like Trump’s.  

Trump takes credit for everything and pushes the “I alone” can save you while attacking anyone that threatens his power.  That’s more Mussolini than Hitler.  

Hitler’s rhetoric is much more persuasive, inclusive, and inspiring than Trump’s.  He preached the power wasn’t him but rested within the German people.  He was constantly calling on all of his population rich and poor to contribute to a higher purpose of German nationalism.  Rhetorically speaking, Hitler was much more of a uniter whereas Trump is all divider.   

Fuck Hitler and Trump. 

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5 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

What makes them similar?  Hitler was an evil this world rarely sees but those speeches look nothing like Trump’s.  

 

The language, the tenor of their speeches.

The media is the enemy.  I need your loyalty.  Falsehoods.  On and on.  

Hitler was a unifier to the German public, not a divider.  On that, you are 100% correct.  However, Trump has unified the Republican Party behind him and forced them to take positions they would have never, ever adopted on their own.

I hate using Hitler as a comparison to Trump.  But his speech today was a new low for him, and he had an audience who has forgotten everything that being a conservative was, and full on embraced whatever this is that passes for being a Republican today.  

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9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

The language, the tenor of their speeches.

The media is the enemy.  I need your loyalty.  Falsehoods.  On and on.  

Hitler was a unifier to the German public, not a divider.  On that, you are 100% correct.  However, Trump has unified the Republican Party behind him and forced them to take positions they would have never, ever adopted on their own.

I hate using Hitler as a comparison to Trump.  But his speech today was a new low for him, and he had an audience who has forgotten everything that being a conservative was, and full on embraced whatever this is that passes for being a Republican today.  

Sure, Hitler was a unifier of the German public, except for the Jewish part of the public, and the Gypsy part, and the homosexual part, the intellectuals and artists and anyone who wasn't Aryan enough or who resisted the Reich. 

Trump is the same kind of unifier. Just remember the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. He sure has unified a bunch of Nazis and Klansmen. 

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40 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Sure, Hitler was a unifier of the German public, except for the Jewish part of the public, and the Gypsy part, and the homosexual part, the intellectuals and artists and anyone who wasn't Aryan enough or who resisted the Reich. 

Trump is the same kind of unifier. Just remember the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. He sure has unified a bunch of Nazis and Klansmen. 

We’re talking about the rhetoric he tended to use in his speeches, not his policies.  There is a difference.  The rhetoric was so uplifting it allowed him to get away with the atrocities because people wouldn’t believe Hitler could be such a monster.

While there was some anti-semitism peppered in his speeches, it wasn’t a common and repeated trope he used in his public rhetoric.

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After a rough week that would destroy any other politician, CPAC was the safe space he needed. Trump was in his element in full force. Even though people were walking out during the speech, I can’t name anyone on the Dem side that can dominate an audience like Trump. For over 2 hours. And again his speech is all the media is talking about this morning. If the media spends the next 2 years recording ever moment this guy takes a dump, like they did last time, then of course he’ll get re-elected. 

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I don’t understand why the media like cnn constantly tries to get the trump supporters, especially those working for his campaign, to ever admit trump is wrong.  They won’t, and if some viewer needs to be convinced, it’s already too late for that.

usually the most cnn can get one of the supporters to say is that they wouldn’t personally have handled it (whatever the tweet of the day is) the way trump did. That seems to have been decided as the best “out” when cornered on an obvious trump screwup.

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Replacement theory supporter and white supremacist set to give opening address in Dallas. Republicans are out and proud:

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán is to hold the opening address of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Aug. 4 in Dallas, Texas, the prime minister’s press secretary told the Hungarian state news agency, MTI. 

Balasz Orbán, the Hungarian prime minister’s political director, tweeted on Monday that Orbán will speak alongside Donald Trump at the annual flagship conservative conference, this year to be held at the Hilton Anatole hotel just north of downtown Dallas.

“In the U.S. and EU, we are dealing with the same people,” Balasz Orbán said. “Faceless, ideologically trained bureaucrats sitting in Washington D.C. and Brussels. We can only succeed in this fight if we are organized and stick together.”

“CPAC is proud to host Prime Minister Viktor Orbán,” the American Conservative Union (ACU) chairman, Matt Schlapp, told the Daily Caller. “The fight against socialism is a global one,” he added.

The invitation follows the sister CPAC event held in the Hungarian capital of Budapest back in May, when the Hungarian prime minister delivered a 12-point “open-source” guide in his keynote speech for conservatives looking to repeat his own party’s recent electoral success.

Orbán called on conservatives to get organized and take back their institutions from Washington and Brussels.

“2024 will be decisive,” Orbán vowed at the time. “You have presidential and congressional elections, we have European Parliament elections. These two venues mark out the two fronts in the struggle for Western civilization. Today, we have neither, but we need both. We have two years to prepare. The Hungarian lesson is that there is no magic bullet. There is only work to be done

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1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Replacement theory supporter and white supremacist set to give opening address in Dallas. Republicans are out and proud:

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán is to hold the opening address of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Aug. 4 in Dallas, Texas, the prime minister’s press secretary told the Hungarian state news agency, MTI. 

Balasz Orbán, the Hungarian prime minister’s political director, tweeted on Monday that Orbán will speak alongside Donald Trump at the annual flagship conservative conference, this year to be held at the Hilton Anatole hotel just north of downtown Dallas.

“In the U.S. and EU, we are dealing with the same people,” Balasz Orbán said. “Faceless, ideologically trained bureaucrats sitting in Washington D.C. and Brussels. We can only succeed in this fight if we are organized and stick together.”

“CPAC is proud to host Prime Minister Viktor Orbán,” the American Conservative Union (ACU) chairman, Matt Schlapp, told the Daily Caller. “The fight against socialism is a global one,” he added.

The invitation follows the sister CPAC event held in the Hungarian capital of Budapest back in May, when the Hungarian prime minister delivered a 12-point “open-source” guide in his keynote speech for conservatives looking to repeat his own party’s recent electoral success.

Orbán called on conservatives to get organized and take back their institutions from Washington and Brussels.

“2024 will be decisive,” Orbán vowed at the time. “You have presidential and congressional elections, we have European Parliament elections. These two venues mark out the two fronts in the struggle for Western civilization. Today, we have neither, but we need both. We have two years to prepare. The Hungarian lesson is that there is no magic bullet. There is only work to be done

totally fucking normal.  nothing to worry about.  just like our democracy has always been since WW2 or so.  yep.  all good.

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7 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

totally fucking normal.  nothing to worry about.  just like our democracy has always been since WW2 or so.  yep.  all good.

And just one month before the Shaping Texas Real Estate Conference in FW. Guess they should have synced their schedules.

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On 3/1/2019 at 7:46 PM, EMAWesome said:

It's a pretty easy argument to make that McCain did more damage to the Republican Party in the last decade than any other Republican politician.

In retrospect, this was a horribly stupid thing to say.

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CPAC, Orban and the GOP have only gotten worse since the start of this thread in 2019. All are unregenerate, unapologetic out and proud racists. How is it that Orban’s right hand man could resign in protest of his race supremacy and CPAC can welcome him to its podium with open arms?
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/04/1115541985/why-hungarys-authoritative-leader-is-drawing-conservative-crowds-in-the-u-s

When Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orbán, arrived in the U.S. this week, he bypassed the White House and President Biden to pay a visit to a more admiring U.S. president. He caught up with former President Donald Trumpat his golf course in Bedminster, N.J.

That was on the way to the Conservative Political Action Conference's annual gathering in Dallas, where Orbán will give the kickoff address on Thursday afternoon – despite a speech last week widely decried as racist, even by one of his top aides. She resigned in protest.

Yet to many in the right wing of the Republican party, Orbán offers a model for electoral success. His endurance – he won his fourth straight term as prime minister in April – relies on an unrepentant appeal to a white and Christian heritage for Hungary. It has also depended on rounds of crackdowns on civil liberties and dissenting voices inside the country. 

In the U.S. Orbán has been given intellectual credence by the American Conservative's Rod Dreher and extraordinary exposure by Fox News's Tucker Carlson. The primetime cable star has played an outsized role inpresenting Orbán to a broader public in this country with interviews, a documentary series and a recurrent argument that the U.S. would be better off with the Hungarian leader's approach. Both have waved away the more problematic implications of Orbán's rhetoric. Last night, on his show, Carlson even offered what he presented as an apology to one of Orbán's advisers — on behalf of the American media

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