Barry: new HBO show

[Sparky 149]

That could be true I just thought the looks on both of their faces seemed like there was confusion about the events of the night.  The flash froward could be him just dreaming or acting out beating him up/killing him.  But I wonder if he does kill him and then Sally finds out who he really is?

[idigTexas 2288]

Marks on her neck could have been from anything, including consensual erotic asphyxiation with the ex.  

[bamachine 1231]

Could have been and she could be making it all up. Just saying that the only thing we know she embellished, at this point, is her "choke on this" line. I would not put it past her to make up drama, in the interest of furthering her career. 

[Nivek 16928]

Could have been and she could be making it all up. Just saying that the only thing we know she embellished, at this point, is her "choke on this" line. I would not put it past her to make up drama, in the interest of furthering her career. 

I believe her friend confirmed the story or her being abused, but not her fighting back. Plus she looked afraid when she saw him.

[bamachine 1231]

^I think that is more likely. She is setup to be the diametrically opposite of Barry. He is the badass that wants to be more meek. She is the meek that wants to be more badass.

[henrygandorf 29190]

yeah, i took it 100% that she was a battered wife, and finally took the brave step of leaving (no matter how it happened).  but in her mind, and her retelling herself, she bravely said in person all the things she probably has been saying over and over in her head.

this was one of the best episodes of the (very short) series.  so good, so funny.  i used to think hank was only good in small doses.  he was in it a lot yesterday and nailed it.

"north hollywood henry" new fantasy football team name i call it.

[PilotsError 2287]

Yeah Hank's reaction after Barry lowers the gun was amazing.

[Red Five 40857]

"Jarhead is going to cover for me!"

[henrygandorf 29190]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"Jarhead is going to cover for me!"

sasha's day off bitch!

i had to pause it.

[oSuJeff97 3435]

On 4/16/2019 at 3:32 PM, PilotsError said:

Yeah Hank's reaction after Barry lowers the gun was amazing.

Oh my god that was so scary!

[Throws up]

Ohhh, I just threw up some. Gross.

[oSuJeff97 3435]

On 4/15/2019 at 10:47 PM, Nivek said:

I believe her friend confirmed the story or her being abused, but not her fighting back. Plus she looked afraid when she saw him.

Yeah she was clearly actually abused.

And she also clearly believes that she did tell the guy off because she wants so badly to have actually done it that she's made herself believe that it actually happened; which is something that happens all the time.

The human memory is very pliable, especially when trauma is involved.

[RPM 26319]

WHAT!?!?

[ajax 2611]

lolllllllll

Also "let me get my ledger"

[veritas aequitas 443]

All of this goes away. Great ending.

[HiggyBaby 2529]

Lmao great ending .

Also NoHo Hank with the sunblock

[A-Tex Devil 2446]

That. Was. Awesome.  

People were trying to figure out how this show lasts with the detective nailing Fuchs. 

I said “What?!?” simultaneously with Barry and it was awesome.  Well done. 

[tx 3 putt 76933]

damn that was a great ending

[Sparky 149]

That was awesome.  I was thinking that Barry was going to just take the detective down physically and grab the recorder and be done.  Which would have been pretty stupid from a show perspective but that took a turn.  I'm really interested in how the conversation goes with the guy who he tells to disappear for a year.

[dbecks 442]

That was quite the ending, even more so given the title of the episode.

Kinda confused as to why Fuchs all of the sudden has a change of heart and tries to help Barry, though.

This season has - as expected - been exceptional so far.

[Sparky 149]

I also laughed at Sam telling Barry he had the pussy when it was tight.  Just the mature jab one would want to take the their ex's current man.

[henrygandorf 29190]

holy shit that was awesome.

not entirely believable in the context of the story, but awesome nonetheless.

sometimes you gotta write yourself into a corner to write yourself out.

[thrillhammer 683]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

holy shit that was awesome.

not entirely believable in the context of the story, but awesome nonetheless.

sometimes you gotta write yourself into a corner to write yourself out.

they definitely wrote themselves out of that corners.  fuchs is off the hook, barry stays out of jail 

has barry killed anyone this season?

[RPM 26319]

3 minutes ago, thrillhammer said:

has barry killed anyone this season?

A couple of goat fuckers, but it was in a flashback.

[bamachine 1231]

12 hours ago, dbecks said:

That was quite the ending, even more so given the title of the episode.

Kinda confused as to why Fuchs all of the sudden has a change of heart and tries to help Barry, though.

This season has - as expected - been exceptional so far.

Fuchs has been inching towards this all along. The more he talked with Barry, the more he regretted agreeing to this. It progressively got harder for him. You really saw it in the next to last episode. He finally broke in this one.

[oSuJeff97 3435]

So that was an amazing episode for so many reasons.

Barry has an amazing ability to dangle conventional "prestige TV" tropes in front of us and then actually end up doing something totally different.

They've been sending signals for two episodes that Sally is being partially (or mostly) untruthful about her domestic violence then we meet the guy and he's super charming and nice, essentially driving home this idea then -- whoops! -- he's actually a huge asshole.

The last scene was absolutely brilliant in how it painted the narrative into a corner and I (and most people watching I suspect) were expecting either Barry or Fuches to kill Detective Loach at that point then the whole "What?!" reveal.

[Rougarou 594]

I thought the brilliant writing was actually Winkler's character being self-aware to realize they are flawed human beings but both working to correct and his statement "if people can't changed, me and you are screwed" and you get this sense of progress and a recovery being undertaken and a journey and then BOOM; the ledger comment slaps you in the face with hilarious comedy as well as the cold water fact that nothing is changing or has changed or will change. Narcissism and selfishness is all Winkler will ever be and I thought it was the big reveal: in this show they are both screwed. They won't, and ultimately can't, change.

Also the character actor of Sally must be an awesome actress. She has the ability to be so dis-likable and make an attractive woman in a vacuum be so unattractive. Her personality and who is she as a person is so ugly that you don't see her as a pretty woman but a horrible thing to be avoided. She's like a modern day Skylar of Breaking Bad, a character everyone hated because the actress was so good at being unlikable.

I really enjoy the loud blaring horns and the Barry logo at the beginnings every week (reminds me of a Tarantino thing) but this week's was even better. "Nice to meet you Bobby", "It's..." horns blaring [BARRY] horns blaring. I appreciated that.

[thrillhammer 683]

1 hour ago, Rougarou said:

I thought the brilliant writing was actually Winkler's character being self-aware to realize they are flawed human beings but both working to correct and his statement "if people can't changed, me and you are screwed" and you get this sense of progress and a recovery being undertaken and a journey and then BOOM; the ledger comment slaps you in the face with hilarious comedy as well as the cold water fact that nothing is changing or has changed or will change. Narcissism and selfishness is all Winkler will ever be and I thought it was the big reveal: in this show they are both screwed. They won't, and ultimately can't, change.

Also the character actor of Sally must be an awesome actress. She has the ability to be so dis-likable and make an attractive woman in a vacuum be so unattractive. Her personality and who is she as a person is so ugly that you don't see her as a pretty woman but a horrible thing to be avoided. She's like a modern day Skylar of Breaking Bad, a character everyone hated because the actress was so good at being unlikable.

I really enjoy the loud blaring horns and the Barry logo at the beginnings every week (reminds me of a Tarantino thing) but this week's was even better. "Nice to meet you Bobby", "It's..." horns blaring [BARRY] horns blaring. I appreciated that.

I thought the way they integrated the title sequence in the opening scene was extremely creative.

i'm kind of hoping you're wrong about barry and cousineau, and hope they can and do change.  the whole show is about barry changing, and so far he hasn't killed anyone yet, and is training his successor (who appears to be coming along nicely). cousineau seems to have just had the realization that he's a selfish asshole after Janice got killed.   what would be nice plotline to me is if barry and cousineau helped each other be the new people they both want to be.  barry could help him with his son, and cousineau could help him act out the secret killer he really is.

[oSuJeff97 3435]

2 hours ago, Rougarou said:

I thought the brilliant writing was actually Winkler's character being self-aware to realize they are flawed human beings but both working to correct and his statement "if people can't changed, me and you are screwed" and you get this sense of progress and a recovery being undertaken and a journey and then BOOM; the ledger comment slaps you in the face with hilarious comedy as well as the cold water fact that nothing is changing or has changed or will change. Narcissism and selfishness is all Winkler will ever be and I thought it was the big reveal: in this show they are both screwed. They won't, and ultimately can't, change.

Also the character actor of Sally must be an awesome actress. She has the ability to be so dis-likable and make an attractive woman in a vacuum be so unattractive. Her personality and who is she as a person is so ugly that you don't see her as a pretty woman but a horrible thing to be avoided. She's like a modern day Skylar of Breaking Bad, a character everyone hated because the actress was so good at being unlikable.

I really enjoy the loud blaring horns and the Barry logo at the beginnings every week (reminds me of a Tarantino thing) but this week's was even better. "Nice to meet you Bobby", "It's..." horns blaring [BARRY] horns blaring. I appreciated that.

I'm sort of fascinated by this.

Sally is someone who was physically and mentally abused in a relationship when she was in her early 20s and is quite obviously using acting and her over-the-top narcissism as a coping mechanism.

Skylar ended up being unhappy and had a bad attitude because she found out her husband of many years was a meth kingpin and murderer. 

But they are both "unlikable."  I'm not making any "woke" type judgement here because I tend to agree that the characters are not particularly likable. 

It's just sort of fascinating to me *why* we find these characters "unlikeble" but we *do* like certain characters who do actual terrible things.  Barry killing the lady cop and his vet buddy at the end of season 1 were both undeniably awful things to do; where as Sally's biggest "crime" is that she acts like a vapid, narcissistic millennial.... but we like Barry and don't like Sally... right?

[oSuJeff97 3435]

58 minutes ago, thrillhammer said:

I thought the way they integrated the title sequence in the opening scene was extremely creative.

i'm kind of hoping you're wrong about barry and cousineau, and hope they can and do change.  the whole show is about barry changing, and so far he hasn't killed anyone yet, and is training his successor (who appears to be coming along nicely). cousineau seems to have just had the realization that he's a selfish asshole after Janice got killed.   what would be nice plotline to me is if barry and cousineau helped each other be the new people they both want to be.  barry could help him with his son, and cousineau could help him act out the secret killer he really is.

Yes but he *was* fully planning to kill Sam; and he would have done it if Sally hadn't been there.  

[Rougarou 594]

Also, I think this is the best thing Bill Hader could have done for his career. I think he's really made some fans out there and showed another side of his creative skillset/toolkit. Good for him, I hope he parlays this into more cool opportunities.

[bamachine 1231]

5 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

 

i'm kind of hoping you're wrong about barry and cousineau, and hope they can and do change.  the whole show is about barry changing, and so far he hasn't killed anyone yet, and is training his successor (who appears to be coming along nicely).

I am thinking that the way the series ends is Barry finally becomes a "real boy". Just as he is finally at peace with his past, his student views him through a sniper scope.

[thrillhammer 683]

7 minutes ago, bamachine said:

I am thinking that the way the series ends is Barry finally becomes a "real boy". Just as he is finally at peace with his past, his student views him through a sniper scope.

I never thought about that dude killing barry, or even putting him in his sights.  I do think its hilarious that pretty much everyone in the class has quit even trying, and they just stand around and laugh and clap the dude on the back for how great a shooter he is.  pretty much the exact same thing barry's soldier buddies did. 

[Rougarou 594]

1 hour ago, thrillhammer said:

I never thought about that dude killing barry, or even putting him in his sights.  I do think its hilarious that pretty much everyone in the class has quit even trying, and they just stand around and laugh and clap the dude on the back for how great a shooter he is.  pretty much the exact same thing barry's soldier buddies did. 

Barry Berk-Man clap clap clapclapclap

[Guest Lobo]

On 4/21/2019 at 9:34 PM, ajax said:

lolllllllll

Also "let me get my ledger"

That may have been the funniest moment in the series for me that did not involve Hank.  I was so wrapped up in the Hader/Winkler dynamic, and then he just mumbles some shit about alternative billing...and before I can register what is happening he goes with, "let me get my ledger" and I shake so hard from laughing I literally almost dropped a baby.  

[mdleast 8289]

Did not see that ending coming at all! Love this show!

This clip may have already been posted but I just recently/finally watched The Skeleton Twins with Bill Hader and Kristen Wiig. Really liked the film. Really love this clip in particular:

[SizzleChest 8283]

This ep is basically Fear and Loathing.  Weird and hilarious all at the same time.

[Sparky 149]

Yep, I was think a Tarantino movie but Fear and Loathing is a good compare.

[Bigbend1812 12915]

Holy shit!  This is great!

[Sparky 149]

Holy fucking roundhouse kick!

[veritas aequitas 443]

That was wild

[SizzleChest 8283]

Wild enough with Tae Kwon Do dude, but the kid took it to 11.

[Radical Larry 28589]

Looks like a little gargoyle up there. 

[henrygandorf 29190]

was a little too slapstick.  didn't work for me.

[Celery Man 20944]

weird shift in tone.  with the crouching tiger hidden 12 year old.  curious to see where they go with that.  I mean, the little girl has a face and a first name for Barry at least (Fuchs too?), but the detective is dead and this is so far removed from them, and she's a little girl, and maybe she doesn't talk?  Wacky episode.  Enjoyable as a standalone thing but I'm a little uncertain about it as far as if it's a direction the show is going.

[bamachine 1231]

She does talk, as she called for her dad, when she walked into the house.

[Celery Man 20944]

I meant, maybe she doesn’t talk to the police.  Maybe she does and they don’t connect the dots (since they are pretty spread out) or maybe she doesn’t cause... she’s a crazy spider girl and is going to exact her own vengeance?  She already didn’t call the cops or alert a neighbor/adult.  Maybe Noho Hank can adopt her.  Weird fucking episode.

[henrygandorf 29190]

homeboy called 911. but guess we’re glossing over that. 

[bamachine 1231]

1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

I meant, maybe she doesn’t talk to the police.  Maybe she does and they don’t connect the dots (since they are pretty spread out) or maybe she doesn’t cause... she’s a crazy spider girl and is going to exact her own vengeance?  She already didn’t call the cops or alert a neighbor/adult.  Maybe Noho Hank can adopt her.  Weird fucking episode.

Ahh, gotcha.

[SizzleChest 8283]

If they try to turn the kid into the Russian in the woods, I'm going to be disappointed.

Edited April 29, 2019 by SizzleChest

[SizzleChest 8283]

9 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

was a little too slapstick.  didn't work for me.

What would you have done differently?  Not saying the ep was perfect by any means, but it was entertaining as fuck and an interesting diversion from the usual.