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  On 3/13/2019 at 10:38 PM, Paper_jam said:

I had Gleeson as well, for 303K in ..Fall '89, I guess.  That was one of my top two or three favorite classes at UT, although it wasn't easy.  Managed a low 'A' somehow.

 

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Who was the German prof that always wore western wear? I had him for my freshman engineering physics in 87, but can't remember his name.

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I may have been wrong about no jail time.  https://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/2019/03/mapping-out-next-possible-celebrity-sentencings-in-wake-of-indictment-in-college-admissions-scandal-.html

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CNN legal analyst, criminal defense attorney and University of Georgia Law Professor Page Pate ventured his guesses as to what any prospective sentences might look like for the embattled actresses. Over the course of a series of emails, Pate said the time served in each case would depend “mostly on the ‘loss amount’ (how much money the government can tie to the alleged fraud)” and explained that “federal sentencing guidelines for fraud are primarily based on the amount of money involved, how sophisticated the fraud was what role the person played in the alleged scheme, and whether they were the ‘leader, middle, [or] low-end.'”

With that in mind, Pate estimated that Full House‘s Loughlin was facing “37-46 months if convicted at trial” and between “27-33 months [if she enters a] guilty plea.”  Since Huffman is alleged to have spent quite a bit less, Pate estimated that the Desperate Housewives actress was facing “12-18 months if convicted at trial” whereas she would be looking at “8-14 months (or possible probation)” if she were to plead guilty.

 

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However, note that this is according to the guidelines, and as exemplified by the Manafort cases, never underestimate the ability of a federal judge to depart downward for the white and wealthy.

Rather than making an example of those who use wealth to abuse the system, I think it's entirely likely that a trial/sentencing judge sympathizes with the desire to "do right by" children and that it's not much different from buying a building or donating an endowed chair.

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  On 3/13/2019 at 11:28 PM, TwiceHorn said:

I may have been wrong about no jail time.  https://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/2019/03/mapping-out-next-possible-celebrity-sentencings-in-wake-of-indictment-in-college-admissions-scandal-.html

However, note that this is according to the guidelines, and as exemplified by the Manafort cases, never underestimate the ability of a federal judge to depart downward for the white and wealthy.

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(emphasis fucking added)

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Fuck your legends of ut engineering, try the ut math department where your classes might as well be taught in a foreign language. You basically learn everything all by yourself 

 

 

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  On 3/13/2019 at 11:30 PM, pacman said:

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Outrage bait. It’s not that bad. This board is filled with people that are in the 1% or close to it and went to a state school. You can’t fake the intelligence of the people I work with.  No amount of coaching would have ever papered over where they lack.  

 

The uber rich are big on this shit, but there’s plenty of room to make money for the rest of us schlubs.  

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  On 3/13/2019 at 11:44 PM, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Outrage bait. It’s not that bad. This board is filled with people that are in the 1% or close to it and went to a state school. You can’t fake the intelligence of the people I work with.  No amount of coaching would have ever papered over where they lack.  

 

The uber rich are big on this shit, but there’s plenty of room to make money for the rest of us schlubs.  

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Yeah, there's a nugget of truth there, but that overstates a lot of things.  Some strivers may need all that coaching and assistance, but it's going to happen for the episcopacy without nearly that much effort.  And there's still a shit-ton of really smart, hard-working people (that happen to be from "good" families) that attend prep schools, an Ivy, and parlay that intelligence and industriousness and those connections into success in the upper echelons of society.

Yeah, and a fair number of us that just went to state schools and worked pretty hard (and probably werent born black).

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  On 3/13/2019 at 11:30 PM, pacman said:

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Maybe someone should write less...

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  On 3/13/2019 at 2:21 PM, jimmyjazz said:

I got curious -- Center lives a few hundred yards away from me.  His kids should feed into Anderson HS, is that where they go?

It's a good neighborhood but nothing about their house would indicate they've been bankrolling much in excess of his UT salary (as if that means anything).

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They go to St. Stephens 

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Cute essay.  But that's a whole lot of work to earn "low six figures".  Also, board positions at F500 don't pay 7 figures.

 

Maybe that Facebook should stick to writing college applications.

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I’m much less concerned with resume padding by rich kids than the bad attitude, lazy, spoiled,  rich kids that continually are propped up by their parents. Those parents will go to amazing lengths to bully teachers and schools to keep any of their behavior infractions off their record, demand special programs, grade changes, etc. I know because it’s my job to deal with it, and thats only elementary school. 

I see the same kids get in trouble with the cops but their connections and high end lawyers are usually able to work their magic. Parents will continually pay for tutors and lawyers to get them through college and into a decent job. They don’t become ultra rich or anything but it pisses me off because the same bratty kid from the other side of town usually ends up with a criminal record and a low wage job, and certainly no degree.

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My undergrad engineering degree was at a smaller tech school with a 7:1 male-to-female ratio.  Trust me, the females were no catch.  (Neither were most of the guys.)  

Worst class I had was Heat Transfer, where the prof managed to dial in a class average of right at 35% every exam (and there were only 3).  50% got you an "A".  He figured it was his job to show you just how little you knew.  It worked.

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  On 3/13/2019 at 11:06 PM, Rimbo said:

I still get asked my GPA on job applications, and that was nearly a quarter of a century ago.

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I don't do interviews, I own the company.  And if I interview someone to work for me I could care less what their GPA in college was.  If you graduated then you did good enough.

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  On 3/14/2019 at 12:32 AM, jimmyjazz said:
My undergrad engineering degree was at a smaller tech school with a 7:1 male-to-female ratio.  Trust me, the females were no catch.  (Neither were most of the guys.)  
Worst class I had was Heat Transfer, where the prof managed to dial in a class average of right at 35% every exam (and there were only 3).  50% got you an "A".  He figured it was his job to show you just how little you knew.  It worked.


As the girls at GT would say: the odds are good but the goods are odd.
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  On 3/13/2019 at 11:28 PM, TwiceHorn said:

Rather than making an example of those who use wealth to abuse the system, I think it's entirely likely that a trial/sentencing judge sympathizes with the desire to "do right by" children and that it's not much different from buying a building or donating an endowed chair.

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I get that thinking, but isn't the tax side of this pretty ugly?  Assuming they knew their "donations" were fake but deducted them anyway, that's a sizable fraud number that I don't think the judge can ignore.

Also I find the $1 million bail number insanely high.  Here is a serial killer whose bail was initially set at $1 million after being charged with 2 murders:

https://www.12news.com/article/news/crime/judge-will-determine-whether-to-deny-bail-to-accused-phoenix-serial-killer/75-511605185

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  On 3/13/2019 at 11:30 PM, pacman said:

 

Fuck your legends of ut engineering, try the ut math department where your classes might as well be taught in a foreign language. You basically learn everything all by yourself 

 

 

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I’m sure that shit goes on, but there are plenty of people who get into prestigious schools and work their way up to high-paying positions on their own merit.  Some people cheat the system.  That’s not the same as claiming the system is rigged to only reward cheaters.  

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  On 3/14/2019 at 1:15 AM, AggieFactFinder said:

I get that thinking, but isn't the tax side of this pretty ugly?  Assuming they knew their "donations" were fake but deducted them anyway, that's a sizable fraud number that I don't think the judge can ignore.

Also I find the $1 million bail number insanely high.  Here is a serial killer whose bail was initially set at $1 million after being charged with 2 murders:

https://www.12news.com/article/news/crime/judge-will-determine-whether-to-deny-bail-to-accused-phoenix-serial-killer/75-511605185

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The federal system is fucked up when it comes to bail.  The initial tendency is not to grant it at all, most federal defendants are detained.  But the guy who got the $1M is a wealthy Italian (Mr. Mossimo Loughlin), so presumably there is a legitimate fear that he might flea the jurisdiction and the amount is sufficient to make him think twice about it.  The intent of the Phoenix bond, of course, is more to keep him incarcerated than anything else.

I think $500k is the biggest single donation I have heard of and that's pretty small potatoes in the world of white collar crime, which is routinely sentenced way under guidelines, unlike most other offenses.

I would imagine the tax aspects of this get treated civilly rather than criminally.  Because the donations were actually to a charitable org in most cases, it's probably tough to prove the state of mind for the tax crime.

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  On 3/14/2019 at 1:21 AM, BrickHorn said:

I’m sure that shit goes on, but there are plenty of people who get into prestigious schools and work their way up to high-paying positions on their own merit.  Some people cheat the system.  That’s not the same as claiming the system is rigged to only reward cheaters.  

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Exhibit A might be BrickHorn himself.  If you haven't gleaned his educational credentials, they're quite impressive and earned on merit.  I have no idea what kind of string-pulling white supremacist Republitards his parents might be though.

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  On 3/14/2019 at 1:25 AM, TwiceHorn said:

Exhibit A might be BrickHorn himself.

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I think in the law, that’s very common.  It’s hard to hide an empty suit in a law firm.  It can be done, but you can’t have a firm full of dipshits with rich daddies.  I’d wager 95% of Shag lawyers got into law school and earned their position on merit.

Maybe the privilege cycle is more prevalent in the business world.

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  On 3/14/2019 at 1:29 AM, BrickHorn said:

I think in the law, that’s very common.  It’s hard to hide an empty suit in a law firm.  It can be done, but you can’t have a firm full of dipshits with rich daddies.  I’d wager 95% of Shag lawyers got into law school and earned their position on merit.

Maybe the privilege cycle is more prevalent in the business world.

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Commercial real estate, holla!

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  On 3/14/2019 at 1:29 AM, BrickHorn said:

I think in the law, that’s very common.  It’s hard to hide an empty suit in a law firm.  It can be done, but you can’t have a firm full of dipshits with rich daddies.  I’d wager 95% of Shag lawyers got into law school and earned their position on merit.

Maybe the privilege cycle is more prevalent in the business world.

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True enough, particularly in our little area.  Occasionally, though, you see someone get an opportunity based mostly on who their Daddy is, and they inherit just enough aptitude to take advantage despite their lack of achievement.

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  On 3/14/2019 at 1:39 AM, Johnny Sack said:

I run with a lot of those guys.  And most are really, really good at what they do.  But a sizeable minority aren’t and still bank.  

And I have friends who work in and manage their “family office”.  

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Yeah, there is a skill set involved and a lot of it is the same thing that made them top-notch frat guys, most of whom aren't abject morons, anyway.  There are a few, however, that have access to deals that they couldn't possibly fuck up, solely as a result of being ______________'s boy.

Also know a family office guy.  Very solid guy, smart, hard worker, always has been.  Graduated with highest honors from UT.  A really prime example of a guy that grew up in immense privilege and was largely unaffected by it.

Shit, the Grand Chancellor my first year in law school was a KA.

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  On 3/14/2019 at 12:32 AM, jimmyjazz said:

My undergrad engineering degree was at a smaller tech school with a 7:1 male-to-female ratio.  Trust me, the females were no catch.  (Neither were most of the guys.)  

Worst class I had was Heat Transfer, where the prof managed to dial in a class average of right at 35% every exam (and there were only 3).  50% got you an "A".  He figured it was his job to show you just how little you knew.  It worked.

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damn that's brutal. 

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  On 3/14/2019 at 1:34 AM, Johnny Sack said:

Commercial real estate, holla!

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The worst part of when I used to teach real estate was when students came up to me with, "I really like this stuff.  How do I get a career in it?" my reply would be, "Do you know anyone in commercial real estate?"

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  On 3/14/2019 at 1:07 AM, Buzzrock said:

 


As the girls at GT would say: the odds are good but the goods are odd.

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They say that at Mines too.  The guys at Mines: "Girls at Mines are like parking spots on campus -- they're either already taken, handicapped, or way too far out to care about."

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  On 3/14/2019 at 2:29 AM, Beau Vine said:

They say that at Mines too.  The guys at Mines: "Girls at Mines are like parking spots on campus -- they're either already taken, handicapped, or way too far out to care about."

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At UMR they built a wooden foot bridge over a creek, and it didn't take long for someone to append the "Weight Limit 1 Ton" sign with "or 2 Rolla girls".

It was one of those "too close to the truth" things to seem as funny as it actually was.

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  On 3/14/2019 at 3:03 AM, jimmyjazz said:

At UMR they built a wooden foot bridge over a creek, and it didn't take long for someone to append the "Weight Limit 1 Ton" sign with "or 2 Rolla girls".

It was one of those "too close to the truth" things to seem as funny as it actually was.

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There was a chick (loosely defined), in our era that rode her bike to ETC from God knows where, wearing spandex and a helmet and shoes, the whole schmear and did not have a spandex worthy bod.  She would come in with her spandexed fat rolls heaving and sweaty. Apparently, she would go in that ladies room next to the Taylor Lounge and give herself sponge baths using paper towels at the sink.  The cool/semi-hot gals had nothing good to say about her or her hygiene habits.

The freshman calculus classes held in ETC made the scenery around ME quite acceptable at times.

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  On 3/14/2019 at 12:32 AM, jimmyjazz said:

My undergrad engineering degree was at a smaller tech school with a 7:1 male-to-female ratio.  Trust me, the females were no catch.  (Neither were most of the guys.)  

Worst class I had was Heat Transfer, where the prof managed to dial in a class average of right at 35% every exam (and there were only 3).  50% got you an "A".  He figured it was his job to show you just how little you knew.  It worked.

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How was New Mexico Tech?

Also, that is how it was at UT as well. I remember getting my first dif eq test back and seeing a 40 and trying to figure out whether to drop the class or switch majors before the professor revealed the average was a 25. 

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