Beto 2020

[Mojo Hand 4580]

Beto is the perfect VP candidate.  Fantastic, energetic campaigner.  Could conceivably do the job of president if needed.  Can calm moderates into supporting a ticket with an outspoken lib like Warren at the top.  Being from Texas will balance someone from the coasts in the top spot.  Plus being some border state cred into an election in which immigration will be a big issue.

[Brisketexan 104638]

1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:

Beto is the perfect VP candidate.  Fantastic, energetic campaigner.  Could conceivably do the job of president if needed.  Can calm moderates into supporting a ticket with an outspoken lib like Warren at the top.  Being from Texas will balance someone from the coasts in the top spot.  Plus being some border state cred into an election in which immigration will be a big issue.

That's about where I can see him.

The same problems I had with Obama (hopey changey, but no real executive experience -- and that shit matters).  Shit, that same thing is a core failing of Trump (he's never been an executive who has to answer to anyone -- and that means he's never been an executive at all.  Nevermind his numerous other hideous failings, of course).

I want someone who has had to work WITH other people, in challenging situations.  At the very least, have some real experience in the trenches of legislative battle, so you have an idea how this shit works.  Beto has a fair amount of that, but not a lot.

Beto's upside is what Mojo posted....which means he's VP material.

[happyfunball 481]

So people reply to your “concern” with well reasoned replies and this is your garbage response?

Any D will beat Trump. I have said over and over that Rs will paint any D candidate as a socialist so it won’t matter who they run.

Obama proved a moderate position and an empty suit will be railroaded by Rs.

In the field of D candidates, no one has made a compelling case for for Beto except he is cool and white hence the movie reference.

Centrist Ds are in denial and think there will be a white, centrist savior.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Any D will not beat Trump.

You’re starting from a bad argument.

[bolverk 29413]

3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Beto is the perfect VP candidate.  Fantastic, energetic campaigner.  Could conceivably do the job of president if needed.  Can calm moderates into supporting a ticket with an outspoken lib like Warren at the top.  Being from Texas will balance someone from the coasts in the top spot.  Plus being some border state cred into an election in which immigration will be a big issue.

I really think so too. The positives he brings complement just about every other presidential candidate out there. Youth to offset old. Idealism to offset policy wonk. Mainstream to offset further left. From Texas/Border/Southwest to offset Coastal or Yankee. He could be used in a number of versatile ways but I don't think he'd pair well with Mayor Pete.

Like many, I personally don't think he's ready but I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over Trump (or Pence). My favorite ticket is still Warren/Beto right now. 

[happyfunball 481]

Any D will not beat Trump.

You’re starting from a bad argument.

You are right. A centrist like Hillary would probably lose

[Hugo Stiglitz 23362]

I’m of the opinion Beto beats Trump the most soundly so if that’s what is most important to you, go Beto!

However, I do not think he’d make the best president...I’d go Warren or Kamala before Beto but Pete or Beto would still be fantastic.

[bad_teammate 13133]

3 hours ago, Js1 said:

Ok bro. 

 

 

[BradInATX 9208]

 

 

You are right. A centrist like Hillary would probably lose

Anyone like Hillary would lose regardless of their policy.

 

Beto, Biden and Harris are all polling in the top 4 (along with Bernie) in a head to head. This notion that a more moderate candidate is more risky than a far left candidate is childish nonsense completely detached from any reality. It's literal fake news.

 

[happyfunball 481]

Anyone like Hillary would lose regardless of their policy. 
Beto, Biden and Harris are all polling in the top 4 (along with Bernie) in a head to head. This notion that a more moderate candidate is more risky than a far left candidate is childish nonsense completely detached from any reality. It's literal fake news.
 

Howard Schultz says hi

[BradInATX 9208]

3 minutes ago, happyfunball said:

 

Howard Schultz says hi

 

About the depth of response I expected. Childish.

Edited March 15, 2019 by BradInATX

[happyfunball 481]

About the depth of response I expected. Childish.

 

Both are empty suits and have no real policy position besides saying they will unite the country. Oh, cool! Beto used to be in a band.

 

Only reason people are mad at Schultz is that he won’t run as a D instead of an independent. I don’t see much sunlight between the two beside Beto’s cool factor.

[bolverk 29413]

Here’s Video of Beto O’Rourke Singing “Blitzkrieg Bop” in a Sheep Mask and Onesie

 

 

Edited March 15, 2019 by bolverk
embedding video

[BradInATX 9208]

1 minute ago, happyfunball said:

 

Both are empty suits and have no real policy position besides saying they will unite the country. Oh, cool! Beto used to be in a band.

 

Only reason people are mad at Schultz is that he won’t run as a D instead of an independent. I don’t see much sunlight between the two beside Beto’s cool factor.

What does that have to do with my original point that more moderate dems are polling at the top of the list? I appreciate what you're saying and I have concerns about Beto's readiness to run the country, but that's not what we're talking about. Happy to have that discussion separately, but my original post is addressing the notion that an evil centrist as the nominee immediately puts Trump at an advantage somehow. All of the data available to us shows that not to be the case.

[happyfunball 481]

What does that have to do with my original point that more moderate dems are polling at the top of the list? I appreciate what you're saying and I have concerns about Beto's readiness to run the country, but that's not what we're talking about. Happy to have that discussion separately, but my original post is addressing the notion that an evil centrist as the nominee immediately puts Trump at an advantage somehow. All of the data available to us shows that not to be the case.

Polling at this stage is only brand awareness and doesn’t mean shit for election

[bad_teammate 13133]

OK, so things aren't looking good for our beautiful boy right now, but let's think about how this works out for him moving forward...

1) If he can keep his head on straight and stay positive, his version of retail politics could win him some fans in Iowa over the next year. Remember, it's A VERY LONG TIME and a sustained charm campaign can get him moving.

2) If he hires some smart people to develop a good policy platform for him, he'll gain confidence and start establishing credibility.

I am very disappointed in the fundraising, and I think his best shot was shock'n'awe, but it's not over yet.

Like I said to start the thread: He is the most interesting character in this race. He's a wildcard.

[BradInATX 9208]

20 minutes ago, happyfunball said:

 

Polling at this stage is only brand awareness and doesn’t mean shit for election

 

I don't disagree but it's the only tangible data we have right now. At the very least it shows that, as of today, "moderate" as a bogeyman seems to be only be a thing in far left circles

Edited March 16, 2019 by BradInATX

[bad_teammate 13133]

In the WaPo and WSJ articles above it says that Beto recused himself from City COuncil votes involving his Father-in-law's development plans, but apparently that's not true.

This piece from from The American Prospect is the most in-depth and detailed piece I've seen on this issue. Really good read.

Amid pressure, O’Rourke ultimately did begin recusing himself on votes relating to the city’s authority to carry out the plan, a few months into the fight. The reason he gave for doing so in dozens of affidavits was not Sanders’s involvement but his wife’s work for a charter school in the development footprint, which seems to be far less relevant. And he didn’t recuse himself on a critical vote in 2008, instead providing the deciding margin to kill a measure limiting the city’s ability to use eminent domain in the affected neighborhoods.

Also, for those wanting to hear Beto speak Spanish, the article links to Beto getting yelled at by poor Latino women and responding with, "That's just, like, your opinion man"

Jesus... these slides

Edited March 16, 2019 by bad_teammate

[TexEx15 17487]

I love people talking about “we’ll wait until they dig up the skeletons...”. A) you don’t think Cruz did his best.  It’s not like he was in a spring game election only showing the vanilla offense.  That fucker was running the Statue of Liberty against ousux.  B) after electing Trump forgive me if I don’t bat an eye at something short of CJK5H.

[happyfunball 481]

I don't disagree but it's the only tangible data we have right now. At the very least it shows that, as of today, "moderate" as a bogeyman seems to be only be a thing in far left circles

 

Here are some new stats that is just as useful

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=random+number+generator&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS774US774&oq=ra&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60j69i57j69i60l2j0.1744j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#

[Hugo Stiglitz 23362]

 

[bad_teammate 13133]

Watching right-wingers try to imagine what it's like to be a progressive is always funny.

[bad_teammate 13133]

lol

 

[bad_teammate 13133]

Beto, please don't do this ever again. Do not apologize to Republicans, ever. Do not grab the knife out of their hands and stab yourself with it.

Be strong. Be tough. Don't apologize to these jackals.

 

[Message Board User 12389]

 

[NowThis 931]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

they really love the douches with Brit accents

[Hugo Stiglitz 23362]

Beto needs to tone down the rhetoric, he’s freaking out everyone.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23362]

IOWA CITY, IOWA (The Borowitz Report)—The nascent Presidential campaign of Beto O’Rourke took a serious hit on Friday with the leak of a high-school-era mixtape by the candidate that included a song by REO Speedwagon.

The mixtape, which prominently featured the song “Keep on Loving You,” sent shockwaves through the O’Rourke campaign, forcing the candidate to address the controversy on the hustings.

“In my youth, I put a song on a mixtape that I deeply regret adding,” O’Rourke told a stunned crowd at an Iowa City diner. “REO Speedwagon does not represent who I am.”

The Democratic strategist Tracy Klugian cautioned that O’Rourke’s apology might not have put the mixtape scandal to rest.

“If that’s the only tape out there, then Beto moves on from this,” he said. “But if a mixtape comes out with Air Supply on it, he’s done.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/beto-orourke-rocked-by-scandal-as-high-school-mixtape-appears-to-include-reo-speedwagon

[F250 28696]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Beto, please don't do this ever again. Do not apologize to Republicans, ever. Do not grab the knife out of their hands and stab yourself with it.

Be strong. Be tough. Don't apologize to these jackals.

 

He's been on an apology tour today and it's been pretty pathetic. I have the sadz.

[bad_teammate 13133]

Why would he apologize for some stories and poems he wrote a long time ago? Why would he apologize for being in some dumb hacker thing that didn't hurt anyone?

God damnit.

[David Dennison 18661]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

I wonder if he feels the same way about family values Republicans and Donald Trump.

 

[softlynow 1784]

Y’all need to calm the fuck down. Barely anyone is paying attention to this shit right now, and an apology on things like teenage hacking and the like kills the story, while a no comment/digging in gives it air for another day or so. This is the oppo dump that helps clear the way forward to concentrate on message and let his style do its work.

[David Dennison 18661]

1 minute ago, softlynow said:

Y’all need to calm the fuck down. Barely anyone is paying attention to this shit right now, and an apology on things like teenage hacking and the like kills the story, while a no comment/digging in gives it air for another day or so. This is the oppo dump that helps clear the way forward to concentrate on message and let his style do its work.

I wonder how big his drug habit was in college.

[bad_teammate 13133]

5 minutes ago, softlynow said:

... and an apology on things like teenage hacking and the like kills the story ...

Showing weakness to Republicans doesn't make them stop, it makes them attack harder.

[TornACL 7679]

But just think, Conservatives, if Beto has a hacking background, maybe he can find Hillary's emails!!!! 

[Anastasis 23397]

37 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Y’all need to calm the fuck down. Barely anyone is paying attention to this shit right now, and an apology on things like teenage hacking and the like kills the story, while a no comment/digging in gives it air for another day or so. This is the oppo dump that helps clear the way forward to concentrate on message and let his style do its work.

Dollar dollar bill yall. Thats all that matters. Nobody will remember anything about his little 90s hacker club if he clocks coin. 

[Mdhorn 5911]

6 hours ago, bolverk said:

I really think so too. The positives he brings complement just about every other presidential candidate out there. Youth to offset old. Idealism to offset policy wonk. Mainstream to offset further left. From Texas/Border/Southwest to offset Coastal or Yankee. He could be used in a number of versatile ways but I don't think he'd pair well with Mayor Pete.

Like many, I personally don't think he's ready but I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over Trump (or Pence). My favorite ticket is still Warren/Beto right now. 

I fancy a Harris/Beto ticket and prefer Warren in Congress.    

[Bama Chick 28596]

While the small percentage of an even smaller percentage of Americans obsessed with politics rend their garments about Beto being on some apology tour, I for one, find a leader who takes ownership of a bad statement and acknowledges it and promises to do better instead of lying about reality and hollering “FAKE NEWS!” quite refreshing.

But if I’ve learned anything about the assholes that post here in the two years I’ve been a fellow asshole, is that everyone here overreacts to everything, both positive and negative.

It’s all “TRUMP IS GOING TO JAIL TODAY!!!” or “WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE! TURN OFF THE LIGHTS, AMERICA IS FINISHED!!” here. Nothing in between.

Whilst the rest of the country is farting along, blithely and briefly pondering for a moment about that Bego guy they saw on CNN today before scratching their nuts and telling Netflix they want to watch the next episode.

[Message Board User 12389]

 

[bad_teammate 13133]

Kind of fucked up that Beto hates his own fans.

Ultra Trendies

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xXx  ULTRA TRENDIES are usually the 'scene sluts' that many of the menfolk
admire so.  They show up, get drunk with the band, and tell the lead singer, "I
really like your music.  I think it's a lot like the Sex Pistols.  Sooo... you
wanna fuck?"

^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^

Well, now you've got your ULTRA TRENDY identified, so whaddya gonna do?

^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^___^^^^^

xXx  Tell the Nazi Skins in your area that this certain ULTRA TRENDY has AIDS.

xXx  Tell the ULTRA TRENDY that the new trend is to butt-fuck skinheads.
-----------------------------------------

lol

He was 17-years-old when he wrote this, or maybe 16. This shit is, BY FAR, the most relatable and likable thing about him. Old pieces of shit like Bernie and me only had clay tablets to scrawl our asinine, sexually-frustrated teenage pseudo-rebellion on, but Beto had a way of archiving for future generations every dumb thought, and that is 100% in line with modern reality. And it's cool and good.

[gmr548 16518]

While the small percentage of an even smaller percentage of Americans obsessed with politics rend their garments about Beto being on some apology tour, I for one, find a leader who takes ownership of a bad statement and acknowledges it and promises to do better instead of lying about reality and hollering “FAKE NEWS!” quite refreshing.




But if I’ve learned anything about the assholes that post here in the two years I’ve been a fellow asshole, is that everyone here overreacts to everything, both positive and negative.

It’s all “TRUMP IS GOING TO JAIL TODAY!!!” or “WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE! TURN OFF THE LIGHTS, AMERICA IS FINISHED!!” here. Nothing in between.

Whilst the rest of the country is farting along, blithely and briefly pondering for a moment about that Bego guy they saw on CNN today before scratching their nuts and telling Netflix they want to watch the next episode.

I scratched my nuts while reading this post so this hits close to home.

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[F250 28696]

 

[bad_teammate 13133]

One of them is "My Day with the Dentist"

By now I'm drooling all over the place, because their godamn saliva-
sucker-upper isn't working too well; and I can't feel the right side of my face
at all.

Of course, I can't talk because the right side of my face is silly putty
and he now has about thirty tools in my mouth.  So, of course, he begins to ask
me some more questions.

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45500]

7 minutes ago, F250 said:

 

Is that Jim Brewer?

[F250 28696]

7 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

While the small percentage of an even smaller percentage of Americans obsessed with politics rend their garments about Beto being on some apology tour, I for one, find a leader who takes ownership of a bad statement and acknowledges it and promises to do better instead of lying about reality and hollering “FAKE NEWS!” quite refreshing.

No one in their 40's should have to apologize for the dumb shit they said as a teen. Everyone was regarded during that time of their life. Beto documented his stream of consciousness during his youth on the internet and there is a lot of silly shit that will keep popping up. He should have just owned it without apologizing.

[F250 28696]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Is that Jim Brewer?

It does look like him but the real Bruer was probably off filming Half Baked.

[Bama Chick 28596]

No one in their 40's should have to apologize for the dumb shit they said as a teen. Everyone was regarded during that time of their life. Beto documented his stream of consciousness during his youth on the internet and there is a lot of silly shit that will keep popping up. He should have just owned it without apologizing.

If you would have kept reading you might have realized I was referring to his “helping raise my kids” quote.

[horncyclist 1386]

Surprised this didn't come out in the Senate Race. Cruz would have had a field day. It would all be bullshit, but he would anyway.

We're going to have to cut people some slack for shit they said and did when they were 16 or else we can never have another male as President. At least not one under 50. 

[F250 28696]

Just now, Bama Chick said:

 

If you would have kept reading you might have realized I was referring to his “helping raise my kids” quote.

 

That was an even dumber thing to apologize for, it was an off the cuff joke and everyone knows it.

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Jesus, he didn’t cry about it.

He acknowledged he was joking but chose his words poorly and that the way women reacted made him reflect on how he speaks about his marriage.

There is literally nothing wrong with that. It kills the issue and, as I said, after almost three years of Trump, it’s nice to see a leader not lie and gaslight when they get called on something.

Please tell me the positive in being a dick and digging your heels in on something so meaningless? That would have extended the stupidity another news cycle and been, well, stupid.

Every single candidate has already or is going to say something that someone won’t like. And if enough people don’t like it, they’ll address it and move on. Except Trump.

The voters that want a dick for president already have their guy.

And then there’s the other 60% of us.

I understand the need to tell everyone to fuck off because we’ve been told essentially that for three years but that won’t be a winning strategy.