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You believe the news networks?
 
You believe they objectively report the news?
 
You believe they are not selective, with regard to political agendas, in what stories receive air time?
 
If one reads this thread, it would seem Foxnews is the only culprit.  That isn't true.  They are only doing what the others have done for decades.
It isn't right, but the outrage and fear is a fucking joke.  It didn't matter to you fuckers until the message/ candidates/ political affiliation changed.

You continue the both-sides, just sometimes you are less direct.

The current platform for cable news is based on Fox with more opinion focused entertainment than content. CNN in the past was not like this. It is the entertainment/production value and the sex appeal of Fox that drove their ratings. CNN was dry as shit if you recall. I believe we are close in age (lower 40s) but if you are my junior it is possible you do not recall.

So yes, if CNN or MSNBC told me the stock market crashed, I would believe it. If Fox tells me the deficit is being reduced, or the crowd size is the largest ever, I do not believe it.

The North Korea video doesn’t exist on the “left” media or “lame stream media”. Why?

Why does left talk radio suck and have shitty ratings? Why does the left not support it?
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1 hour ago, TornACL said:

I learned during my visit to my parents that the Democrats are running on a midterms platform that patriotism is bad. 

Another thing I noticed, which I think is a generational thing, is my parents have their television on at all times. Like from the moment they wake until they go to bed. I know other olds who do this. Of course it's almost always on Fox News, sometimes as background noise. Sometimes muted. But ALWAYS on. 

When we're in another room or chatting / visiting and I turn off the TV, they look at me like I am crazy. 

This is the same generation that told their kids that tv will rot your brain. 

Yeah, both my parents are like this (dad and stepmom Fox News, mom HGTV).   Lots of older relatives are the same.

I’m a man, so I grew up not having cable TV and a VCR until I was in Jr. High, but at some point in the past 10 years, I started leaving it off unless I’m watching something specific.  Wife is the same.

My relatives think it’s weird that we don’t watch much TV, and don’t watch any local or cable news, and don’t leave it on, unless it’s on PBS Kids or something like that.

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1 hour ago, TornACL said:

I learned during my visit to my parents that the Democrats are running on a midterms platform that patriotism is bad. 

Another thing I noticed, which I think is a generational thing, is my parents have their television on at all times. Like from the moment they wake until they go to bed. I know other olds who do this. Of course it's almost always on Fox News, sometimes as background noise. Sometimes muted. But ALWAYS on. 

When we're in another room or chatting / visiting and I turn off the TV, they look at me like I am crazy. 

This is the same generation that told their kids that tv will rot your brain. 

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Yeah, both my parents are like this (dad and stepmom Fox News, mom HGTV).   Lots of older relatives are the same.

I’m a man, so I grew up not having cable TV and a VCR until I was in Jr. High, but at some point in the past 10 years, I started leaving it off unless I’m watching something specific.  Wife is the same.

My relatives think it’s weird that we don’t watch much TV, and don’t watch any local or cable news, and don’t leave it on, unless it’s on PBS Kids or something like that.

 

I was out of a job for a few months back in 2014.  I was surprised as to what total fucking garbage TV is across the board.  Hundreds of channels and just garbage.  Sure, you have Netflix and whatnot but the olds don't know how to stream.  With my parents, it's Fox and the Weather Channel and being that olds scare easily, those two channels play to that.  (Also note the commercials on those two networks.)  

On a related note, I found it interesting what happened with NBC and Megyn Kelly.  The show turned into an absolutely failure and there are numerous reasons for that but one reason is that NBC sorely overestimated the intellectual bandwidth of daytime TV viewers.  They thought they wanted higher brow far but they really want talk shows and Judge Judy.  NBC's show with that insufferable Kathie Lee does much better than Kelly's show and it's total fluff.

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2 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

 

I was out of a job for a few months back in 2014.  I was surprised as to what total fucking garbage TV is across the board.  Hundreds of channels and just garbage.  Sure, you have Netflix and whatnot but the olds don't know how to stream.  With my parents, it's Fox and the Weather Channel and being that olds scare easily, those two channels play to that.  (Also note the commercials on those two networks.)  

On a related note, I found it interesting what happened with NBC and Megyn Kelly.  The show turned into an absolutely failure and there are numerous reasons for that but one reason is that NBC sorely overestimated the intellectual bandwidth of daytime TV viewers.  They thought they wanted higher brow far but they really want talk shows and Judge Judy.  NBC's show with that insufferable Kathie Lee does much better than Kelly's show and it's total fluff.

25+ years ago, my grandpa (S. Texas oilpatch/ranching type, killed a few nazis in his day) would watch TV EARLY in the morning, and in the heat of the afternoon.  I remember him watching three things, my entire life:

1 - default was the weather channel.  For hours.

2 - during football season, all NFL games, and a lot of college games.

3 -- CNN, but only during specific large events.  For example, I remember watching re-runs of the 1980 Democratic convention at 4:00 a.m. with him.  He also watched the Republican convention, and other "big story" features, but that's it.  Then again, CNN (and all news shows and networks ) were WAY different back then.

I doubt he'd have watched much Fox, CNN, or MSNBC if they were like they are now -- he had little patience for prattling professor types.

My own folks ain't young.  They watch more news than they should, but they sure don't watch Fox.  They actually watch a lot of foreign news: Univision, BBC, etc.

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21 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Slorch -- my question stands: have you ever told a lie?

That is not a question.  My imperfections also have no bearing as to the objectivity or independence of modern media and news coverage.

 

Maybe if I just called it editorialization of the facts, you’d give me a pass...

 

FTR, I watch a shit-ton of NFL network, Food Channel, History Channel, movies/ TV series on netflix, and current sports. I cannot handle Foxnews or the others.  They all fucking suck.

 

That doesn’t mean I NEVER watch them, but there are several  months of the year when I do not.

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Fucking fox news is telling idiots that the deficit is going down.

They're not shading, spinning, fibbing, or even lying... They're fucking making up complete and total fabrications.

They're actually just the antithesis of truth, since they're just saying the exact opposite of the truth. Constantly.

Nobody is more full of shit than fox news.

There's no fucking excuse to think that any other news organization (outside brietbart and daily caller) are as bad as they are.

They're not just completely full of shit, they're fucking evil.

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I used to work across from Exxon's former HQ in downtown Houston, and often as not, I'd eat lunch in their basement cafeteria. This was early 2001. Then came 9/11, and they banned outsiders from the cafeteria for a really long time. Maybe a whole year -- Exxon has always been a paranoid company. Back when they were putting the tunnels in downtown, they demanded to NOT be part of the network. Anyway, by the time they let us come back, they'd switched all the TVs over to Fox and it stayed that way until I left that job ten years later. 

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26 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Nothing. Except scary words. Be might as well say “Dems are coming to eat your babies!” It doesn’t matter. They pray on the fearful and feed them even more fear. And they eat it up.

Prey

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On another note, back in the Dubya years, CNN's strategy was to tack toward the middle. They knew they were outflanked by MSNBC and Fox on the left and right. They hit on a bold strategy: "Since we are nobody's choice, we'll be everybody's milquetoast!" The goal was to get viewers in departure lounges, waiting rooms, corporate cafeterias, fancy elevators, etc. 

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31 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

On another note, back in the Dubya years, CNN's strategy was to tack toward the middle. They knew they were outflanked by MSNBC and Fox on the left and right. They hit on a bold strategy: "Since we are nobody's choice, we'll be everybody's milquetoast!" The goal was to get viewers in departure lounges, waiting rooms, corporate cafeterias, fancy elevators, etc. 

It concerns me that people have this notion that one has to pick a side, left or right.  Believing that to choose a moderate stance in the middle is a dereliction of duty on the part of the citizen is killing this country.  Fewer people in the sane center these days I fear.

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3 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

It concerns me that people have this notion that one has to pick a side, left or right.  Believing that to choose a moderate stance in the middle is a dereliction of duty on the part of the citizen is killing this country.  Fewer people in the sane center these days I fear.

Well, when the Trumpers tag everyone that’s not one of them a liberal cuck, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

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It concerns me that people have this notion that one has to pick a side, left or right.  Believing that to choose a moderate stance in the middle is a dereliction of duty on the part of the citizen is killing this country.  Fewer people in the sane center these days I fear.

Look at that chart of various news outlets and their spot on the spectrum. There’s a lot of good sources in the middle. They do ok....but just “ok.” People largely seek out something that makes them feel good - something that validates their basest feelings. Those outlets do best.

Kind of like places that sell nutritionally bankrupt fast food beat out health food joints. We seek out positive stimuli, at the expense of our own health and sanity.
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People in general like to tune in to hear what they already believe for sure. Just backs up their gut feeling or background. It's remarkable how many people have told me Fox News is really their only source of news. Also maybe more troubling, how many people that pay zero attention to what the government is doing yet have time to watch 50+ hours of tv a week.

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2 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

On another note, back in the Dubya years, CNN's strategy was to tack toward the middle. They knew they were outflanked by MSNBC and Fox on the left and right. They hit on a bold strategy: "Since we are nobody's choice, we'll be everybody's milquetoast!" The goal was to get viewers in departure lounges, waiting rooms, corporate cafeterias, fancy elevators, etc. 

Can't do anything to upset the administration or they won't let you embed your reporters with the forces invading Iraq. That's where the ratings are. 

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People in general like to tune in to hear what they already believe for sure. Just backs up their gut feeling or background. It's remarkable how many people have told me Fox News is really their only source of news. Also maybe more troubling, how many people that pay zero attention to what the government is doing yet have time to watch 50+ hours of tv a week.


You need to hang out with different people.
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22 hours ago, Red Five said:

“We’d be shouting if Obama did this” should be their slogan now.

Yeah, there’s a mile-long list of things that - had Obama done them - they’d be discussed on a daily basis on AM talk radio for the next decade. 

e.g. mocking disabled people, bragging about serial sexual assault, not knowing words to the anthem, paying hush money to porn stars, dodging the draft, whipping up crowds against journalists, etc.    

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The pearl clutching continues.

The number of people killed by his parolees is unprecedented. 

Also, for someone of his age that grew up in the Deep South, his memory seems a little foggy on this being "unprecedented."

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2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

It's not pearl clutching, it's straight up inciting violence.

It’s probably a combination of both.  They’re bullying the liberals to not be so uppity while vilifying them as some sort of legit threat to the Trump base.

Non-Trumpers need to see through this scare tactic and not back down.

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Every single person in this photo looks like they'd be happy to wear your face as a mask.


Except the poor dog.

He just wants someone to dognap him. Or put him down. Either one just to get him away from that hill folk freak show.


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3 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

 


Except the poor dog.

He just wants someone to dognap him. Or put him down. Either one just to get him away from that hill folk freak show.


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I went past their family cemetery a few weeks ago. They aren't hill folk. They are SW Arkansas lowland folk, and if there's a more godforsaken patch of the south out there I haven't seen it yet, and I have divided my life between Tennessee and Texas and extensively traveled recently on backroads from Laredo to Richmond, VA. 

SW Arkansas makes rural West Virginia look like the Hamptons. Well, that's laying it on a little thick, but I remember crossing the border into rural Bossier Parish Louisiana and thinking I'd arrived back in civilization. Let that sink in. 

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