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2 hours ago, Satchel said:

Why does Art believe a full time worker is not worth 44,000 a year?

I realize this is quibbling, but they wouldn't be full time workers. Most wont work more than 30 or so hours because then McDonalds might have to pay for their health insurance, which they will not do. 

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I’m currently doing a bunch of painting and shit on my new Single Lady Pad, so I’m listening to a bunch of audiobooks.

Currently listening to the newly updated version of “Hoax, Donald Trump, Fox News, and The Dangerous Distortion Of Truth” by Brian Stelter.

And, holy shit, Fox News as a company and culture is more fucked up than even I imagined.

The whole Murdoch family - except James - needs to get got.

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On 6/9/2021 at 1:33 PM, Satchel said:

Why does Art believe a full time worker is not worth 44,000 a year?

I'm not sure which one of us is bad at math, but I'm pretty sure $15/hr isn't $44,000 a year.  Art thinks much less of people than that.

 

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On 6/9/2021 at 9:02 AM, Sawbonz said:

I had to listen to the clip because I thought she had to be paraphrasing. Nope

 

It's a reasonable discussion on whether technology will replace lower wage people as wages rise. Hint, it's happening regardless of pay rates. But for some reason, this guy implies that minorities can only start off at McDonalds. There is no reason to even mention minorities in this discussion. You can leave the description as unskilled or inexperienced. It doesn't matter if they're black, white or whatever. Unless of course, he has other beliefs that can't quite make it on-air.

We've all run across people with certain private racist opinions that want to outwardly demonstrate the so-called liberals are wrong by discussing how the other view hurts minorities.

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3 hours ago, Red Five said:

15 x 2080 = 31,200.

these old guys in congress see $15 a hour and they think that is a fortune.

I am guilty of it too at times - I remember making $3.15 an hour as a teenager and feeling like i was rich. I don't do much of the grocery shopping for our family these days, but in my head, i still think you can get out of the store with a shitload for groceries for under $100. In my head, a movie ticket is still like $3.50.

People lose perspective, i do it, but you got snap out of it.. it isn't 1983 out there.

would like to see these congressmen live on the current min. wage of 7.25 x 2080 = $15,080 (before taxes) 

who adds more value to American society, the average McDonald's worker ($20,000) or Louie Gohmert ($174,000)?

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2 minutes ago, yoladu said:

these old guys in congress see $15 a hour and they think that is a fortune.

I am guilty of it too at times - I remember making $3.15 an hour as a teenager and feeling like i was rich. I don't do much of the grocery shopping for our family these days, but in my head, i still think you can get out of the store with a shitload for groceries for under $100. In my head, a movie ticket is still like $3.50.

People lose perspective, i do it, but you got snap out of it.. it isn't 1984 out there.

would like to see these congressmen live on the current min. wage of 7.25 x 2080 = $15,080 (before taxes) 

who adds more value to American society, the average McDonald's worker ($20,000) or Louie Gohmert ($174,000)?

Very good perspective here and after reflecting upon it, definitely am guilty of it too often.

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these old guys in congress see $15 a hour and they think that is a fortune.
I am guilty of it too at times - I remember making $3.15 an hour as a teenager and feeling like i was rich. I don't do much of the grocery shopping for our family these days, but in my head, i still think you can get out of the store with a shitload for groceries for under $100. In my head, a movie ticket is still like $3.50.
People lose perspective, i do it, but you got snap out of it.. it isn't 1983 out there.
would like to see these congressmen live on the current min. wage of 7.25 x 2080 = $15,080 (before taxes) 
who adds more value to American society, the average McDonald's worker ($20,000) or Louie Gohmert ($174,000)?

Dude, it’s crazy. Groceries, random stuff at Target, home improvement supplies from Lowe’s - EVERYTHING is the most expensive I ever remember things being.

When my kids were toddlers - and I was buying diapers/pull-ups and kid snacks etc - I could get groceries for the four of us for two weeks for $200.

Now? For me and my daughter home for the summer? It’s $300 per week.

A damn gallon of good paint is $60-70 dollars!

A pair of Old Navy jeans are $60.

It costs a lot just to live “regular”.
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1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

how'd you get your text and the "edited by" on the same line? how'd you get the beans above the frank?

when i deleted all the other stuff in her post in tapatalk it stuck my text into the quote, so i went to the mobile browser version to try to fix it, deleted my text there, then went back to tapatalk to add my text back in because i couldn't create space below the quote in the mobile browser.  because this board software refuses to use bbcode for reasons.

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I overheard a couple of boomers talking about this the other day. The idea that liberals got people killed because they opposed hydroxychloroquine is circulating now among the moron set. Never mind that hydroxy was always available and just didn’t fucking work. 

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4 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

I overheard a couple of boomers talking about this the other day. The idea that liberals got people killed because they opposed hydroxychloroquine is circulating now among the moron set. Never mind that hydroxy was always available and just didn’t fucking work. 

Eh. That narrative is changing because of articles touting this study:

https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html

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21 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Eh. That narrative is changing because of articles touting this study:

https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html

That study is small and includes both azithromycin (a common antibiotic) and HCQ together. Politifact has a good write-up of the issues:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/14/facebook-posts/post-overstates-studys-200-finding-hydroxychloroqu/

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2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

That study is small and includes both azithromycin (a common antibiotic) and HCQ together. Politifact has a good write-up of the issues:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/14/facebook-posts/post-overstates-studys-200-finding-hydroxychloroqu/

Oh, I didn't say I believed shit. I was simply offering why that narrative is going around. 

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23 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

I overheard a couple of boomers talking about this the other day. The idea that liberals got people killed because they opposed hydroxychloroquine is circulating now among the moron set. Never mind that hydroxy was always available and just didn’t fucking work. 

You want hydroxychloroquine? Contact Oklahoma. You can probably get it cheap.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/27/us/oklahoma-hydroxychloroquine-stockpile/index.html

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From cheerleading Vladimir Putin to latching onto fantastical conspiracy theories, Fox News is getting closer to becoming the Kremlin's official propaganda arm.  What the fuck happened to white boomers in the last 15 years?  Were they just simply not equipped to handle something like Facebook?  It started as a convenient way to see all of the pictures of the grandkids.  Then they veered into … something else.

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2 minutes ago, Chooky said:

From cheerleading Vladimir Putin to latching onto fantastical conspiracy theories, Fox News is getting closer to becoming the Kremlin's official propaganda arm.  What the fuck happened to white boomers in the last 15 years?  Were they just simply not equipped to handle something like Facebook?  It started as a convenient way to see all of the pictures of the grandkids.  Then they veered into … something else.

a black guy was elected president, twice, and they lost their fucking minds

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5 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

a black guy was elected president, twice, and they lost their fucking minds

People don’t like hearing that, but it’s true. Some were never able to come to grips with the idea of Obama as POTUS.

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People don’t like hearing that, but it’s true. Some were never able to come to grips with the idea of Obama as POTUS.

in 2015 I went with a buddy to go hunt dove on his family land in Arkansas and his dad, who is a capillary/vascular specialist MD, a military officer vet, and generally intelligent person, would only refer to Obama as "the Kenyan".

Racism runs deep in this country and is a constant reason to believe the disinformation coming from fox and oann.

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A new family moved in next door just before the 2012 election. The handyman who does odd jobs around my house engaged the man in conversation one day. He told me all my new neighbor wanted to know is how much I paid him and what “the Obama lover” did for a living.

imagine my shock when he began to fly UT and Auburn flags alternately  outside his home.

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It is complicated. It is a manipulated information ecosystem. 

We have a large segment of our population captured in an alternative reality manufactured by propaganda. There are actors (many foreign) developing content and coordinating across platforms. The GOP base is the primary target. These people are fed orchestrated disinformation through various formats and platforms (radio, cable, news pages, chat rooms, twitter feeds, YouTube, facebook, etc.).  Most of these people were not educated when those platforms were around.  

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45 minutes ago, Captainant said:

in 2015 I went with a buddy to go hunt dove on his family land in Arkansas and his dad, who is a capillary/vascular specialist MD, a military officer vet, and generally intelligent person, would only refer to Obama as "the Kenyan".

Racism runs deep in this country and is a constant reason to believe the disinformation coming from fox and oann.

25 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

It is complicated. It is a manipulated information ecosystem. 

We have a large segment of our population captured in an alternative reality manufactured by propaganda. There are actors (many foreign) developing content and coordinating across platforms. The GOP base is the primary target. These people are fed orchestrated disinformation through various formats and platforms (radio, cable, news pages, chat rooms, twitter feeds, YouTube, facebook, etc.).  Most of these people were not educated when those platforms were around.  

The pandemic exacerbated it, but I've been so disappointed in various family members and friends who buy into what Fox News/OAN/Newsmax are selling, and when confronted over it, they claim I'm listening to too much librool media.

I fill my TV viewing time, which is not much in the scheme of things, with a couple of TV shows, and a bunch of YouTube focused on metal detecting/history/old firearms/archaeology stuff.

I challenge them to go a week without Fox News, and just getting their news from Reuters and the AP, which is where Fox News licenses most of it's "news", and they refuse to.

 

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5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The pandemic exacerbated it, but I've been so disappointed in various family members and friends who buy into what Fox News/OAN/Newsmax are selling, and when confronted over it, they claim I'm listening to too much librool media.

I fill my TV viewing time, which is not much in the scheme of things, with a couple of TV shows, and a bunch of YouTube focused on metal detecting/history/old firearms/archaeology stuff.

I challenge them to go a week without Fox News, and just getting their news from Reuters and the AP, which is where Fox News licenses most of it's "news", and they refuse to.

 

There are two approaches to take.  Either we strengthen our population through education so they are better protected from propaganda or we control content.  Obviously education will take time and leave out older generations.  But those generations will eventually die off.

Deplatforming works. But we need a lot more content control. The shit going on at Fox News needs to end.  I don't know exactly how, but it needs to happen. YouTube has been trying to address their rabbit hole algorithms.  Facebook needs to be decimated or regulated hard.  

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10 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

Deplatforming works. But we need a lot more content control. The shit going on at Fox News needs to end.  I don't know exactly how, but it needs to happen. YouTube has been trying to address their rabbit hole algorithms.  Facebook needs to be decimated or regulated hard.  

They are a huge problem, but I can't support the government getting involved, and so unless FNC viewers leaver, or people are able to pressure the advertisers, I don't see that there is much that can be done.

A huge part of the problem, and YouTube is experiencing this (and I'm friends with a couple of YouTubers, so I hear all about the algorithms), is that YouTube, Facebook, etc. are trying to surface stuff that you are interested in.  

And that's the big problem when it comes to social media, and it applies equally to Fox News: Even if it's misinformation, they are giving their audiences what they want.  

And they are going to get their misinformation somewhere.  Burn down Facebook or Fox News, and they'll just find it someplace else.

What needs to happen is that they need to be relentlessly called out on their bullshit.  If I could get a few more relatives to stop being afraid of offending/pissing other relatives, several of us calling out other relatives would have much more of an impact, rather than just one or two people calling them on the bullshit.

Ultimately, that's what is necessary - we need to stop indulging our family and friends, and start calling them out on the bullshit misinformation they believe in, or pass around.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Chooky said:

Were they just simply not equipped to handle something like Facebook? 

Yes. And also a fuck ton of the rest of us.  The internet will absolutely be looked at as our downfall.  The reason we were able to exist in relative, RELATIVE, peace as our population grew was because we were able to keep the dumbest among us (of which there are fuck ton, probably 75%) in their little bubbles.  We were not equipped to handle the instant connectivity.  The instant ability to have our idiotic ideas spread across the world.  Now we reap it.

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