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[Guest Lobo]

Well, I made it all the way to 6:00am without heading to foxnews.com

Top 5 stories on Fox arranged at top of landing page:  School mask mandates, Boston bomber receives Covid relief check by mistake, Juror updates on Maxwell trial, Chicago teacher's unions (actually a legit big story), and Antonio Brown interview.  

But coming in at a respectable #6, buried underneath all that important American history is the one year anniversary of the FBI/Antifa false-flag assault on our Capitol.  

Meanwhile, around the world where Trump was gonna make us stronger---Capitol Attack #1 story on BBC, Reuters, and countless others across the globe.   

Shockingly none decided to run with the school mask mandates or Antonio Brown stories.  

[Gil Bang 25,896]

 

 

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[Guest Lobo]

Doocy reminds me of Vince Vaughn in "Anchorman" when doubting the Nielsen rankings of evening news.  

You are 17x more likely to be hospitalized if you are unvaccinated and 20x more likely to die.  Scientific fact!

"Uh, those numbers are flawed and you know it Jen.  They don't take into account unvaccinated people with less than 2 symptoms and more than 2 assault rifles!  And other things......of that nature!"  

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,342]

This is absolute lunacy and dangerous for the Republic.  This Washington Post article is beyond bonkers.


 

Spoiler

From the Washington Post

By Ashley Parker

and 

Josh Dawsey

 

Yesterday at 8:00 a.m. EST

 

 

Stephanie Grisham, former press secretary to President Donald Trump, remembers the challenges that came from so many Fox News hosts having the direct number to reach Trump in the White House residence.

 

“There were times the president would come down the next morning and say, ‘Well, Sean thinks we should do this,’ or, ‘Judge Jeanine thinks we should do this,’ ” said Grisham, referring to Sean Hannity and Jeanine Pirro, both of whom host prime-time Fox News shows.

Grisham — who resigned from the White House amid the Jan. 6 attacks and has since written a book critical of Trump — said West Wing staffers would simply roll their eyes in frustration as they scrambled to respond to the influence of the network’s hosts, who weighed in on everything from personnel to messaging strategy.

 

Trump’s staff, allies and even adversaries were long accustomed to playing to an “Audience of One” — a commander in chief with a twitchy TiVo finger and obsessed with cable news.

 

But text messages — newly released by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection — between Fox News hosts and former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, crystallize with new specificity just how tightly Fox News and the White House were entwined during the Trump years, with many of the network’s top hosts serving as a cable cabinet of unofficial advisers.

As the Jan. 6 attacks on the U.S. Capitol unfolded, Meadows received texts from Fox News hosts Laura Ingraham and Brian Kilmeade, as well as Hannity, according to the newly released communications.

 

“Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home,” Ingraham wrote. “This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy.” Ingraham’s private missives, however, differed starkly from what she said on her show later that evening, when she began whitewashing the violence of the day and claiming the attacks were “antithetical” to the Trump movement.

 

 

Kilmeade urged Meadows to get Trump “on TV” to call off the rioters, writing, “Destroying everything you have accomplished.”

And Hannity asked Meadows, “Can he make a statement? Ask people to leave the Capitol.”

Other texts released by the committee reveal that Hannity also offered the White House advice in the run-up and aftermath to the attacks that resulted in five deaths. On Dec. 31, 2020, Hannity texted Meadows to warn, “I do NOT see January 6 happening the way he is being told.” And on Jan. 10, 2021 — referring to a conversation he had with Trump himself — Hannity texted Meadows and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a close Trump ally, to try to discuss strategies to rein in Trump.|

“Guys, we have a clear path to land the plane in 9 days,” Hannity wrote.  “He can’t mention the election again. Ever. I did not have a good call with him today. And worse, I’m not sure what is left to do or say, and I don’t like not knowing if it’s truly understood. Ideas?”

 

 

A former senior administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share candid details of private discussions, said Trump would also sometimes dial Hannity and Lou Dobbs — whose Fox Business show was canceled in February — into Oval Office staff meetings.

 

“A lot of it was PR — what he should be saying and how he should be saying it; he should be going harder against wearing masks or whatever,” Grisham said. “And they all have different opinions, too.”

A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. A spokesperson for Fox News declined to comment.

Michael Pillsbury, an informal Trump adviser, said he realized how powerful Fox News was in Trump’s orbit when the former president began embracing Sidney Powell — an attorney promoting Trump’s false claims of widespread voter fraud — and other election fabulists after seeing them on Dobbs’s show. Pillsbury added that while it seemed obvious that many of the claims were patently false, Trump was inclined to believe them, in part because he was watching them on TV and had affection for Dobbs in particular.

 

“It taught me the power of the young producers at Fox, and Fox Business especially,” Pillsbury said. “These young producers who are in their mid-20s. They come out of the conservative movement, they‘ve never been in the government. They are presented with these reckless, fantastical accounts. And they believe them and put them on for ratings.”

Alyssa Farah, a former White House communications director, said the four most influential Fox hosts were Dobbs, Hannity, Igraham, and Pirro — and in the final year of the Trump administration, Hannity was the most influential. Other former top administration officials also mentioned Mark Levin, another Fox News host, and Maria Bartiromo, a Fox Business host, as two other network stars in regular touch with the White House.

From the point of view of the staff, Farah said, the goal was simply to “try to get ahead of what advice you thought he was going to be given by these people” because their unofficial counsel “could completely change his mind on something.”

But the relationship was also symbiotic, with White House aides actively trying to influence the network, especially on issues such as spending deals and averting government shutdowns. They knew if they could get Fox hosts to echo their goals on air, that would help sway the president.

 

 

Jeff Cohen, author of “Cable News Confidential: My Misadventures in Corporate Media,” said the recent text messages represent a “smoking gun.”

“If you watch Fox News as much as I do, and I watch a few hours a night, they’re always signaling their close contact with the White House,” Cohen said referring to the Trump era. “But these texts are just the hard evidence. This is just how deeply intertwined the Fox News leadership is with Trump and the Trump White House.”

The problem, he explained, is that even though many of these hosts are opinion journalists, they are still violating public trust by not disclosing the full extent of their relationships with the Trump administration.

“Journalists and media are supposed to be public checks on power, not private advisers to power,” Cohen said. “A commentator is still a journalist, and even if the commentator doesn’t consider him or herself to be a journalist, they still have to tell the public when they played a role in something they’re commenting on.”

 

 

One former top White House official said that the hosts often had more influence with Trump based on what they said on air rather than in their various backchannels to him and his team, in part because the former president was obsessed with the following — and ratings — of their shows.

Former Trump chief of staff John F. Kelly told others in the White House that Dobbs’s show was critical to understanding the president and that Trump’s ideas and feelings about people often originated from that program. Kelly also told colleagues that if Dobbs went after a White House senior staffer, they risked their status falling quickly in the eyes of the former president.

When Kelly could not watch the prime-time Fox shows himself, he would ask other staffers to monitor them, and he would scour the White House call logs for the names of Fox News personalities.

 

 

Pirro, several Trump aides said, often became irate if the former president did not appear on her show frequently enough in her view, especially if he had been on Hannity’s show several times prior.

Fox shows were so important to the president that White House staffers were determined to get guests booked on them, even forcing staffers to take weekend shifts appearing on Pirro’s show after Pirro complained she couldn’t get a guest — and the former president also called in himself.

During the 2020 presidential campaign, Hannity called Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel and other Trump allies on a number of occasions to voice his months-long concern that the campaign was heading in the wrong direction and Trump would lose unless he turned around his operation, according to a Republican with direct knowledge of the campaign’s operations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details of private discussions. They added that Hannity was much more bullish on his show than in private about Trump’s electoral prospects.

As the coronavirus pandemic ramped up in early 2020, a range of Fox News hosts again mobilized to offer backchannel advice to the Trump White House. In March, Tucker Carlson flew to Trump’s private Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., to warn of the seriousness of the virus. Carlson told Trump he might lose the election because of covid-19, while Trump told the prime-time host that the virus wasn’t as deadly as people were claiming.

 

In April, Ingraham arrived at the White House with two on-air regulars who are part of what she describes as her “medicine cabinet” for a private meeting with Trump. There, she talked up hydroxychloroquine, a controversial anti-malarial drug which public health experts have concluded is not effective as a covid-19 treatment.

An internal Trump coronavirus response team led by Jared Kushner, the former president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, also prioritized the requests of certain VIPs, including Kilmeade and Pirro. Kilmeade had called two administration officials, for instance, to pass along tips about where to obtain personal protective equipment. And Pirro had repeatedly urged administration officials to send a large quantity of masks to a specific New York hospital.

At the time, a Fox News spokeswoman said neither host had been aware that their tips were receiving preferential treatment.

Since leaving office, Trump has vociferously complained about Fox, particularly its coverage of the election and what he views as increasingly negative coverage about him. But he has kept in close touch with many of the hosts and even sees some of them at his Florida resort.

The Jan. 6 committee has asked Hannity to cooperate with its investigation, and he has hired Jay Sekulow, a longtime Trump attorney, to represent him. “We are evaluating the letter from the committee. We remain very concerned about the constitutional implications especially as it relates to the First Amendment. We will respond as appropriate,” Sekulow said in a statement last week.

But some former senior White House officials said the texts make the role of Hannity and others seem more outsize than it was. The former president appreciated that the Fox crew was fighting on his behalf on a daily basis, this person said, “but he would not be like, ‘Let me call Larry Kudlow and change our economic plan because Laura Ingraham said that.’ ”

Of course, Kudlow, who now hosts a show on Fox Business, came to Trump’s attention as a top economic adviser in part because of the business show he previously hosted on CNBC.

 

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

38 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

This is absolute lunacy and dangerous for the Republic.  This Washington Post article is beyond bonkers.


 

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From the Washington Post

By Ashley Parker

and 

Josh Dawsey

 

Yesterday at 8:00 a.m. EST

 

 

Stephanie Grisham, former press secretary to President Donald Trump, remembers the challenges that came from so many Fox News hosts having the direct number to reach Trump in the White House residence.

 

“There were times the president would come down the next morning and say, ‘Well, Sean thinks we should do this,’ or, ‘Judge Jeanine thinks we should do this,’ ” said Grisham, referring to Sean Hannity and Jeanine Pirro, both of whom host prime-time Fox News shows.

Grisham — who resigned from the White House amid the Jan. 6 attacks and has since written a book critical of Trump — said West Wing staffers would simply roll their eyes in frustration as they scrambled to respond to the influence of the network’s hosts, who weighed in on everything from personnel to messaging strategy.

 

Trump’s staff, allies and even adversaries were long accustomed to playing to an “Audience of One” — a commander in chief with a twitchy TiVo finger and obsessed with cable news.

 

But text messages — newly released by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection — between Fox News hosts and former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, crystallize with new specificity just how tightly Fox News and the White House were entwined during the Trump years, with many of the network’s top hosts serving as a cable cabinet of unofficial advisers.

As the Jan. 6 attacks on the U.S. Capitol unfolded, Meadows received texts from Fox News hosts Laura Ingraham and Brian Kilmeade, as well as Hannity, according to the newly released communications.

 

“Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home,” Ingraham wrote. “This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy.” Ingraham’s private missives, however, differed starkly from what she said on her show later that evening, when she began whitewashing the violence of the day and claiming the attacks were “antithetical” to the Trump movement.

 

 

Kilmeade urged Meadows to get Trump “on TV” to call off the rioters, writing, “Destroying everything you have accomplished.”

And Hannity asked Meadows, “Can he make a statement? Ask people to leave the Capitol.”

Other texts released by the committee reveal that Hannity also offered the White House advice in the run-up and aftermath to the attacks that resulted in five deaths. On Dec. 31, 2020, Hannity texted Meadows to warn, “I do NOT see January 6 happening the way he is being told.” And on Jan. 10, 2021 — referring to a conversation he had with Trump himself — Hannity texted Meadows and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a close Trump ally, to try to discuss strategies to rein in Trump.|

“Guys, we have a clear path to land the plane in 9 days,” Hannity wrote.  “He can’t mention the election again. Ever. I did not have a good call with him today. And worse, I’m not sure what is left to do or say, and I don’t like not knowing if it’s truly understood. Ideas?”

 

 

 

 

A former senior administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share candid details of private discussions, said Trump would also sometimes dial Hannity and Lou Dobbs — whose Fox Business show was canceled in February — into Oval Office staff meetings.

 

“A lot of it was PR — what he should be saying and how he should be saying it; he should be going harder against wearing masks or whatever,” Grisham said. “And they all have different opinions, too.”

A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. A spokesperson for Fox News declined to comment.

Michael Pillsbury, an informal Trump adviser, said he realized how powerful Fox News was in Trump’s orbit when the former president began embracing Sidney Powell — an attorney promoting Trump’s false claims of widespread voter fraud — and other election fabulists after seeing them on Dobbs’s show. Pillsbury added that while it seemed obvious that many of the claims were patently false, Trump was inclined to believe them, in part because he was watching them on TV and had affection for Dobbs in particular.

 

“It taught me the power of the young producers at Fox, and Fox Business especially,” Pillsbury said. “These young producers who are in their mid-20s. They come out of the conservative movement, they‘ve never been in the government. They are presented with these reckless, fantastical accounts. And they believe them and put them on for ratings.”

Alyssa Farah, a former White House communications director, said the four most influential Fox hosts were Dobbs, Hannity, Igraham, and Pirro — and in the final year of the Trump administration, Hannity was the most influential. Other former top administration officials also mentioned Mark Levin, another Fox News host, and Maria Bartiromo, a Fox Business host, as two other network stars in regular touch with the White House.

From the point of view of the staff, Farah said, the goal was simply to “try to get ahead of what advice you thought he was going to be given by these people” because their unofficial counsel “could completely change his mind on something.”

But the relationship was also symbiotic, with White House aides actively trying to influence the network, especially on issues such as spending deals and averting government shutdowns. They knew if they could get Fox hosts to echo their goals on air, that would help sway the president.

 

 

Jeff Cohen, author of “Cable News Confidential: My Misadventures in Corporate Media,” said the recent text messages represent a “smoking gun.”

“If you watch Fox News as much as I do, and I watch a few hours a night, they’re always signaling their close contact with the White House,” Cohen said referring to the Trump era. “But these texts are just the hard evidence. This is just how deeply intertwined the Fox News leadership is with Trump and the Trump White House.”

The problem, he explained, is that even though many of these hosts are opinion journalists, they are still violating public trust by not disclosing the full extent of their relationships with the Trump administration.

“Journalists and media are supposed to be public checks on power, not private advisers to power,” Cohen said. “A commentator is still a journalist, and even if the commentator doesn’t consider him or herself to be a journalist, they still have to tell the public when they played a role in something they’re commenting on.”

 

 

One former top White House official said that the hosts often had more influence with Trump based on what they said on air rather than in their various backchannels to him and his team, in part because the former president was obsessed with the following — and ratings — of their shows.

Former Trump chief of staff John F. Kelly told others in the White House that Dobbs’s show was critical to understanding the president and that Trump’s ideas and feelings about people often originated from that program. Kelly also told colleagues that if Dobbs went after a White House senior staffer, they risked their status falling quickly in the eyes of the former president.

When Kelly could not watch the prime-time Fox shows himself, he would ask other staffers to monitor them, and he would scour the White House call logs for the names of Fox News personalities.

 

 

Pirro, several Trump aides said, often became irate if the former president did not appear on her show frequently enough in her view, especially if he had been on Hannity’s show several times prior.

Fox shows were so important to the president that White House staffers were determined to get guests booked on them, even forcing staffers to take weekend shifts appearing on Pirro’s show after Pirro complained she couldn’t get a guest — and the former president also called in himself.

During the 2020 presidential campaign, Hannity called Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel and other Trump allies on a number of occasions to voice his months-long concern that the campaign was heading in the wrong direction and Trump would lose unless he turned around his operation, according to a Republican with direct knowledge of the campaign’s operations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details of private discussions. They added that Hannity was much more bullish on his show than in private about Trump’s electoral prospects.

As the coronavirus pandemic ramped up in early 2020, a range of Fox News hosts again mobilized to offer backchannel advice to the Trump White House. In March, Tucker Carlson flew to Trump’s private Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., to warn of the seriousness of the virus. Carlson told Trump he might lose the election because of covid-19, while Trump told the prime-time host that the virus wasn’t as deadly as people were claiming.

 

In April, Ingraham arrived at the White House with two on-air regulars who are part of what she describes as her “medicine cabinet” for a private meeting with Trump. There, she talked up hydroxychloroquine, a controversial anti-malarial drug which public health experts have concluded is not effective as a covid-19 treatment.

An internal Trump coronavirus response team led by Jared Kushner, the former president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, also prioritized the requests of certain VIPs, including Kilmeade and Pirro. Kilmeade had called two administration officials, for instance, to pass along tips about where to obtain personal protective equipment. And Pirro had repeatedly urged administration officials to send a large quantity of masks to a specific New York hospital.

At the time, a Fox News spokeswoman said neither host had been aware that their tips were receiving preferential treatment.

Since leaving office, Trump has vociferously complained about Fox, particularly its coverage of the election and what he views as increasingly negative coverage about him. But he has kept in close touch with many of the hosts and even sees some of them at his Florida resort.

The Jan. 6 committee has asked Hannity to cooperate with its investigation, and he has hired Jay Sekulow, a longtime Trump attorney, to represent him. “We are evaluating the letter from the committee. We remain very concerned about the constitutional implications especially as it relates to the First Amendment. We will respond as appropriate,” Sekulow said in a statement last week.

But some former senior White House officials said the texts make the role of Hannity and others seem more outsize than it was. The former president appreciated that the Fox crew was fighting on his behalf on a daily basis, this person said, “but he would not be like, ‘Let me call Larry Kudlow and change our economic plan because Laura Ingraham said that.’ ”

Of course, Kudlow, who now hosts a show on Fox Business, came to Trump’s attention as a top economic adviser in part because of the business show he previously hosted on CNBC.

 

Definitely not state run news.  No siree bob.

[HenryJames 65,886]

 

[SydneyCarton 47,843]

2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

I'm sure that felt good for him. Can't wait to see the guy who accepts basically show up and say it was a Northern citizen who killed Lincoln for something unrelated to slavery. 

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6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm sure that felt good for him. Can't wait to see the guy who accepts basically show up and say it was a Northern citizen who killed Lincoln for something unrelated to slavery. 

"Thanks for joining us and you've definitely made me wonder what happened that evening. I'm sure the textbook companies are hoping this theory just goes away......Later today on Fox Nation-- you've probably believed all your life that hitting your dick with a hammer would hurt.  But stay tuned for our next guest, who just might get you to reconsider." 

[Guest Lobo]

Fox intern, "So is that a yes, Mr. Taylor?  We can have a car there for you at 3 o'clock."  

Weird that Fox is coming for Lincoln, the only other President who Trump ever discusses favorably.  Actually, the only five Presidents besides himself, Trump ever mentions are Washington, Lincoln, Clinton, Bush, and Obama.  That's weird.  I bet all I could beg, borrow, and steal that Trump can't name ten presidents aside from himself.  Meanwhile my retarded sister can name at least ten without any prompts.  

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2,059]

Sure, this was beyond settled at the time, but none of those witnesses are alive anymore so no one is here to controvert what we say. 
 

Up next, this latest policy is just like the holocaust and here’s what MLK really meant, which incidentally won’t be controverted by holocaust survivors or MLK because we’re pretty much out of those.  

[HenryJames 65,886]

Well everyone knows Booth assassinated Lincoln. What this book presupposes is...maybe he didn't.

[Guest Lobo]

 

I don't know this David Taylor fellow (apparently he has Eli Cash's editor), but he missed a golden opportunity to go on FoxNews and have some serious fun.

"Look, a lot of people are saying maybe Booth didn't kill Lincoln.  Lotta people, tremendous people...very bright people...the best.  You know back then, you had a lot of killers.  Lotta killers back then.  What, you think Lincoln was so innocent?"  

Edited January 14, 2022 by Lobo

[henrygandorf 29,174]

might as well put this here. sad day. 

 

[atomheartbevo 89,404]

7 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm sure that felt good for him. Can't wait to see the guy who accepts basically show up and say it was a Northern citizen who killed Lincoln for something unrelated to slavery. 

7 hours ago, Lobo said:

Weird that Fox is coming for Lincoln, the only other President who Trump ever discusses favorably.  

7 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

Sure, this was beyond settled at the time, but none of those witnesses are alive anymore so no one is here to controvert what we say. 

Lincoln's assassin shouted "Sic semper tyrannis" after killing him, which is rarely discussed, but clearly brings up the question of whether his assassin was Antifa.

And if his assassin was Antifa, wouldn't it stand to reason that he was BLM and CRT as well?

 

[Guest Lobo]

Reminds me I heard the Oath Keepers attorney this morning on the news.  He said something about how the group was called there to protect the Capitol from Antifa.  Okay, valid defense.  It's bullshit but it's a defense you can run with.  but then he continues, "they were also there in case they got the callup from the President."  And he said it in the context of the National Guard and DC troops.  As if the Oath Keepers was a group that fell under the Commander in Chief's jurisdictional conscription.  I don't envy this lawyer's job with that kinda defense, "Uh, the regular President usually lets us bring assault rifles inside the walls!" 

[WhatTheBuck 28,705]

7 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

might as well put this here. sad day. 

 

Mitch McConnell called it an insurrection on Jan. 6.

And said Trump was responsible (but voted to acquit at his impeachment).

 

Edited January 14, 2022 by WhatTheBuck

[Guest Lobo]

Man, I wonder how hard Pilot's Error jerks off to the notion of killing the Minority Leader for saying shit like this on the floor.  

[Beau Vine 53,980]

Everyone knows Mitch is a RINO.

[tx 3 putt 76,309]

1 hour ago, Lobo said:

Reminds me I heard the Oath Keepers attorney this morning on the news.  He said something about how the group was called there to protect the Capitol from Antifa.  Okay, valid defense.  It's bullshit but it's a defense you can run with.  but then he continues, "they were also there in case they got the callup from the President."  And he said it in the context of the National Guard and DC troops.  As if the Oath Keepers was a group that fell under the Commander in Chief's jurisdictional conscription.  I don't envy this lawyer's job with that kinda defense, "Uh, the regular President usually lets us bring assault rifles inside the walls!" 

 

sounds like they need to share their text messages with the court 

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Lincoln's assassin shouted "Sic semper tyrannis" after killing him, which is rarely discussed, but clearly brings up the question of whether his assassin was Antifa.

And if his assassin was Antifa, wouldn't it stand to reason that he was BLM and CRT as well?

 

[henrygandorf 29,174]

15 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

sounds like they need to share their text messages with the court 

they mentioned it last night on cnn, but a lot of the specifics in these text conversations have already been reported on.  these are encrypted messaging apps, and they have not gone through the legal process to subpoena them.  this means that somebody is already spilling the beans about their contents.

oath keepers = oath flippers

[atomheartbevo 89,404]

41 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

they mentioned it last night on cnn, but a lot of the specifics in these text conversations have already been reported on.  these are encrypted messaging apps, and they have not gone through the legal process to subpoena them.  this means that somebody is already spilling the beans about their contents.

oath keepers = oath flippers

Well, you don't want to be the 4th or 5th guy to spill the beans, because you're not going to get as sweet of a deal with the feds as the first guy.

[bluto 4,883]

I know we all know but holy shit at the outright dishonesty that’s so easily refutable, not the least of which is just googling “trump opec tweets”

 

[Guest Lobo]

I got a "chicago booth" from a chick in high school way back when.  My knees buckled for the rest of the weekend.

[StassneyHorn 6,536]

Hannity trying to laugh off the Booth Business school is comically bad as it’s always the top business school in the country. “OmG cHiCaGo Is AIDS”It’s like someone laughing off that Nicky Saban fella.
 

To make it Austin related, David Booth opened up Dimensional Fund Advisors here in Austin. It’s the big ass building near Hotel Granduca. Gave a 300 million gift to UChicago to have the school named after him. Eugene Fama was a big name that used to come in quite often. 

Edited January 15, 2022 by StassneyHorn

[WhatTheBuck 28,705]

52 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Hannity trying to laugh off the Booth Business school is comically bad as it’s always the top business school in the country.

Expertise is frowned upon in Republican circles. They don’t trust “liberals” with all their book-learnin’ and knowin’ shit.

[Guest Lobo]

1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

Hannity trying to laugh off the Booth Business school is comically bad as it’s always the top business school in the country. “OmG cHiCaGo Is AIDS”It’s like someone laughing off that Nicky Saban fella.
 

To make it Austin related, David Booth opened up Dimensional Fund Advisors here in Austin. It’s the big ass building near Hotel Granduca. Gave a 300 million gift to UChicago to have the school named after him. Eugene Fama was a big name that used to come in quite often. 

Yeah, that was pretty bad.  "The prestigious booth institute at Chicago."  Hannity doesn't realize he just underminded the economic school of thought that shaped the entirety of the man who built the channel that employs him.  Because...you know...he's stupid.  I'd love to get a hot take from some of our resident Trump bootlickers on that faux pas. 

Side note---did you work at Dimensional before or? 

[StassneyHorn 6,536]

Was only there for a year. Once a month they would have a beer/wine and cheese event at the end of the month. Guy has his own wine company as well that he would supply the party with.

[Guest Lobo]

I heard that he bought the Bella Oaks tract from/with Heitz Cellars.  I think it's the one thing he still shares with his ex-wife in terms of assets/projects.  IIRC, at the time it was the most valuable piece of vineyard acreage in the whole of California Wine Country, something like $5-$10mm/acre.  I'm guessing given his analytical proclivities, it was a wise investment.  Since this is a CR thread, I'll say that he seems to be sort of apolitical or just touched what he needed to in order to keep his advisory thriving.  Obviously people like that just operate above the fray of politics because they see shit we just can't.  Pretty nice fringe benefit---wine and cheese event at most businesses is some shit they grab from 7-11, Costco at best (NTTAWWT).  But to have a guy like David Booth curate (I hate that verb but it seems appropriate here) the actual hooch...that's a damn nice perk.  

Anyway, now that I've had some wine.  I was thinking about Hannity and the Booth School Professor interview.  But thinking is hard so I gave up after about 30 seconds over pizza and wine just now.  But there's a 'Dumb and Dumber' joke in here somewhere.  UofC remade economic theory, and then that brushes up against previous Austrian economic theory.  Hannity writes this guy's CV off as low-level. 

But I bet dollars to donuts to Booth wine that if somebody told Sean, "That guy you insulted is a thought leader in Chicago Economics theory...I don't know if you know your Austrian economic theory either..."  And Sean, like dumbass Lloyd Christmas would slap back with, "Yeah, I know Rupert and his politics okay?  I'm his favorite host!  Chicago is just a liberal hotbed...he wouldn't have anything to do with their bullshit economics.  He'd be more in line with Austrian economics.  You know his homeland, 'G'day mate...let's put another shrimp on the barbie in the name of individual freedoms'!  I get it folks."  Again, there's a joke in there somewhere between UC/Austria/Australia and Sean being a fucking morong.

[Gil Bang 25,896]

God I hate this fucking cunt

[WhatTheBuck 28,705]

Because Milley had the nerve to say to the military that it was a mistake to walk with Trump through Lafayette Park after using tear gas and flash grenades to disperse peaceful protestors in order to pose for a photo holding the Bible in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church back on June 1, 2020. Thou shalt not oppose anything Trump does or thou art the enemy. 

[Gourmand 7,774]

[HenryJames 65,886]

[atomheartbevo 89,404]

19 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

God I hate this fucking cunt
 

I'm sure she doesn't mind if we laugh at every Trumpkin/Qanon type that fucks around with COVID and makes sure everybody they know on social media knows they are FAFO, skips the vaccines, and dies as a result.

I mean, at this point when somebody is unvaccinated for no other reason than politics and they get COVID and get fucked up, to me, it's no different than some guy saying "hold my beer" as he steps out of his vehicle to get a selfie with a bison or a bear and it ends poorly.

[bluto 4,883]

Tucker just laid it out there that the reason Russia is pissed and effing with Ukraine is the fault of the US for pushing Ukraine into NATO. 
 

 

Edited January 19, 2022 by bluto

[HenryJames 65,886]

[Gap03 3,275]

3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

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[Biff Tannen 45,491]

There was a segment this morning on CNN (gasp!) that showed all of the Fox News chyrons over the past few weeks.  Holy shit.  It's just straight fear porn.  "America's Cities are Apocalyptic Hellscapes!"  This channel has poisoned its viewers and has created a completely false reality that they aren't smart enough to see for what it is.  History will not be kind to the role they have played.

[Brisketexan 104,549]

There was a segment this morning on CNN (gasp!) that showed all of the Fox News chyrons over the past few weeks.  Holy shit.  It's just straight fear porn.  "America's Cities are Apocalyptic Hellscapes!"  This channel has poisoned its viewers and has created a completely false reality that they aren't smart enough to see for what it is.  History will not be kind to the role they have played.

This has been true for a LONG time. Even back before they were selling the “Dems have made every American city a cross between Calcutta and Fallujah!” (which, of course, is utter bullshit). Back then, it was “Muslim terrorists are coming to kill you everywhere!”

Shit, I remember quite a few years ago when we were planning a trip to Europe, some of our Texas family and friends (of the Fox News crowd) wrung their hands and told us we were taking an unreasonable risk, because the mooslem terrorists were killing people left and right over there, don’t take any trains or planes! And once you’re there, they’ll rape you! When I pointed out that the statistical facts made it clear that the riskiest part of our trip was the drive to the airport on a Texas highway, they looked at me like a puzzled dog.

Facts and reason are a foreign language to the Fox News fear porn crowd.

[tx 3 putt 76,309]

18 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

There was a segment this morning on CNN (gasp!) that showed all of the Fox News chyrons over the past few weeks.  Holy shit.  It's just straight fear porn.  "America's Cities are Apocalyptic Hellscapes!"  This channel has poisoned its viewers and has created a completely false reality that they aren't smart enough to see for what it is.  History will not be kind to the role they have played.

listen to the opening of the Sean Hannity radio show and you’d think the nation has collapsed 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,833]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

listen to the opening of the Sean Hannity radio show and you’d think the nation has collapsed 

same if you read the posts from any of our magat friends here

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[Neonmoon 38,127]

 

[NWBuck 8,547]

4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

There was a segment this morning on CNN (gasp!) that showed all of the Fox News chyrons over the past few weeks.  

Do you remember which show?

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

1 minute ago, NWBuck said:

Do you remember which show?

Brian Stelter on Reliable Sources. Had to look that up. Just caught the first five minutes or so. 

[NWBuck 8,547]

6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Brian Stelter on Reliable Sources. Had to look that up. Just caught the first five minutes or so. 

Got it...

 

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

20 minutes ago, NWBuck said:

Got it...

 

Liberal policies leaving trail of death and destruction. Good gravy. 

[NWBuck 8,547]

18 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Liberal policies leaving trail of death and destruction. Good gravy. 

Noted here before... My dad and his wife did not want to come visit us this past summer out of fear about the anarchy in Seattle and Portland. We live in the far north west suburbs of Seattle, and three hours from Portland. 

When they got here, they were stunned at how "normal" everything was. Did it change their perception? Maybe cause them to reconsider watching Hannity and Carlson? 

Nope. "Sure glad they cleaned it up before our visit!" 

[Gil Bang 25,896]

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This has been true for a LONG time. Even back before they were selling the “Dems have made every American city a cross between Calcutta and Fallujah!” (which, of course, is utter bullshit). Back then, it was “Muslim terrorists are coming to kill you everywhere!”

Shit, I remember quite a few years ago when we were planning a trip to Europe, some of our Texas family and friends (of the Fox News crowd) wrung their hands and told us we were taking an unreasonable risk, because the mooslem terrorists were killing people left and right over there, don’t take any trains or planes! And once you’re there, they’ll rape you! When I pointed out that the statistical facts made it clear that the riskiest part of our trip was the drive to the airport on a Texas highway, they looked at me like a puzzled dog.

Facts and reason are a foreign language to the Fox News fear porn crowd.

Yeah, don't go to Chicago.  You'll be MURDERED!