How Fox News works

[Dnaguy 12724]

4 minutes ago, TexPx said:

Military Bases

 

 

 

Yeah but the military is all woke now.

Full of transgenders.

This ad and those in the military now can’t be trusted. 
True patriots understand where the real truth comes from.

Truth is felt. It’s not understood.

[Bama Chick 28596]

I know you’re joking about the military and “wokeness” but let me tell y’all a little story.

My son has been in the Marines around 18 months.

COVID absolutely destroyed his path at Troy - he’s ADHD and trends towards being an introvert so losing actual classes and his social life was a bad, bad combination. The isolation and online classes turned into two terrible semesters and his junior year was a wash.

He started listening to and watching shitty Joe Rogan and then the algorithm was leading him to QAnon crap. We could barely speak to him without everything turning back to politics.

He dropped out - without telling me or his Dad and just showed up back home. Two months later he enlisted.

He’s in San Diego now. He loves California. His best friend in his squadron is a lesbian from New Mexico. Her fiancée has a younger sister and his best friend set her and my son up on a blind date. She’s the daughter of Mexican immigrants. She’s now his girlfriend.

Of his 18 person squad, he’s one of four white people.

I got to spend a few hours with him this weekend at a funeral. He’s a completely new kid.

I was 100% against him joining the Marines but he’s an adult and there wasn’t shit I could do about fuck.

Now I completely credit him joining and ending up with who he’s serving with and where he’s serving for saving his life and I’m not being hyperbolic.

He was not heading down a good path but being in a structured environment in a new place with diverse people has changed his life.

I’ll be thankful to the USMC until my last breath.

[TwiceHorn 32111]

On 3/13/2023 at 7:58 PM, Neonmoon said:

Banks fails because of non-whites 

If you don’t want to give Fox News clicks, just go to the Oscars thread to see people complain about Oscars pushing CR stuff because EEAAO won. same same. 

He's saying SVB failed because of naggers, queers and women.

JFC.  It would be hilarious, but  . . . . 

[Bullneck 19583]

Let's not forget this:

[elfenix 34787]

On 3/7/2023 at 12:32 AM, atomheartbevo said:

 

she's my new favorite person to find on podcasts

[Bookman 4769]

On 3/14/2023 at 9:44 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I'm not saying that CNN or MSNBC doesn't have elitist types at the top as well but it's a complete farce for anyone to think that Fox News is anything but elite types who only cater to the bottom for $. And they hate their audience more than anyone.

They don't "cater" to the bottom -- the bottom is their product that they sell to advertisers.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13744]

27 minutes ago, Bookman said:

They don't "cater" to the bottom -- the bottom is their product that they sell to advertisers.

fair enhancement of my description.

What I like about this scenario (outside of Fox News maybe collapsing) is that there are now clear talking points that Fox News intentionally lies to their audience. Until their clear out their mgmt and "anchors", this story should be the only rebuttal to anyone telling you a Fox News point.  Before it was known but proof was limited.  Murdoch and their on air talent admits they didn't believe it.

[HenryJames 67474]

[Biff Tannen 46207]

50 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

What I like about this scenario (outside of Fox News maybe collapsing) is that there are now clear talking points that Fox News intentionally lies to their audience. Until their clear out their mgmt and "anchors", this story should be the only rebuttal to anyone telling you a Fox News point.  Before it was known but proof was limited.  Murdoch and their on air talent admits they didn't believe it.

I just don't think it matters.  The fox news people I know in real life deny they watch it.  They know they are full of shit, but it makes them feel better (more hate?) and they will never admit it.  These people are gone.  I guess maybe we can hope that they won't gain more young viewers after this all goes down?

[Francisco 2.0 32620]

Hell, I forgot about the second defamation lawsuit against Fox.  

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/fox-news-dominion-smartmatic-lawsuits-rcna74861?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_jy

 

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In the opening paragraph of a nearly $3 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News, we encounter this brilliant expression of the truth: “The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States. The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed. These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable.”

You might assume the company filing suit here is Dominion Voting Systems. But no. The above paragraph is from the New York defamation lawsuit by Smartmatic, an election and software technology company, against Fox News, Fox Corp. and some of the network’s hosts, as well as former President Donald Trump’s personal counsel Rudy Giuliani.

That means Fox News faces two massive defamation lawsuits: one from Dominion Voting Systems and the other from Smartmatic. Taken together, the cases pose lethal threats to the network’s bottom line.

 

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Smartmatic alleges in its $2.7 billion lawsuit that Fox News and the other defendants broadcast more than 100 knowingly false statements about the company’s involvement in the 2020 election. (It’s seeking that amount because it claims it has lost more than $2.7 billion in value since the 2020 presidential election.) According to Smartmatic’s complaint, the defendants repeated, on at least 13 different broadcasts, the following false narrative: “Smartmatic was a Venezuelan company under the control of corrupt dictators from socialist countries. In [the defendants’] story, Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used in many of the states with close outcomes. And, in [the defendants’] story, Smartmatic was responsible for stealing the 2020 election by switching and altering votes to rig the election for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.” 

Despite attempts by the defendants to get the lawsuit dismissed, the New York Supreme Court confirmed last month that Smartmatic can move forward with its claims against Fox News, hosts Maria Bartiromo and Lou Dobbs, and Giuliani.

It’s not unreasonable to assume that as discovery proceeds and depositions are taken, Smartmatic, as Dominion already has, will have an opportunity to accuse Fox of not only defaming the company, but also deceiving its viewers all in the pursuit of profit. In Smartmatic’s case, the evidence will show that the network’s executives, anchors and hosts didn’t believe the baseless conspiracy theories about election and voting fraud but continued to promote those lies on its shows and even allowed guests such as Giuliani and Sidney Powell to repeat their dishonesty, thereby implicating Smartmatic.

Internal chats, emails and communications by Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and other hosts, as well as executives including Rupert Murdoch and Suzanne Scott, which were produced during the discovery process in the Dominion case will prove to be valuable in Smartmatic’s case. Fox will object, of course, but now that the proverbial cat has been let out of the bag courtesy of the Dominion case, we should expect a judge to let Smartmatic use the defendants’ own words as evidence that Fox personalities believed, for example, that claims from Giuliani and Powell about a stolen election were absurd.

Unlike Dominion, Smartmatic is also pursuing claims against Giuliani and individual hosts Dobbs and Bartiromo, two of the most egregiously bad actors at Fox News when it came to the network’s “disinformation campaign.” Smartmatic also has sued Powell, Mike Lindell, OANN and Newsmax in separate lawsuits in federal court, alleging similarly defamatory conduct.

Smartmatic is also seeking punitive damages from those it accuses of defamation. That is where it could draw the most blood. An award of punitive damages by a jury could be jaw-droppingly more than just the $2.7 billion in economic and non-economic damages Dominion seeks. If Dominion and Smartmatic prevail against Fox and are awarded actual and punitive damages, there could be little to nothing left of Fox at the end.

An anticipated defense from Fox will likely be the fact that it aired, in December of 2020, a 3-minute video interview of an elections technology expert that seemed to backtrack on claims surrounding Smartmatic. The segment aired on shows with hosts Dobbs, Bartiromo, and Jeannine Pirro and showed the expert answering questions about Smartmatic and the 2020 presidential election. Fox could argue that in airing this video, it effectively retracted whatever perceived falsehoods were pushed out on the network about Smartmatic and that, therefore, it should not be found to be liable for defamation of the company.

Significantly, Smartmatic argues in its lawsuit that the defendants’ dissemination of the lies created the perfect environment for a “mob to attack the U.S. Capitol” and that those lies “undermined people’s belief in democracy.” It also asks that the defendants “fully and completely retract their false statements and implications” about Smartmatic. For Fox in particular, having to affirmatively admit that what it peddled to its viewers were lies could be one of the worst punishments the network could suffer.

Here’s another great paragraph from the lawsuit: “With this action, Smartmatic says: Enough. Facts matter. Truth matters. Defendants engaged in a conspiracy to spread disinformation about Smartmatic. They lied. And they did so knowingly and intentionally. Smartmatic seeks to hold them accountable for those lies and for the damage that their lies have caused.” 

Dominion may be closer to going to trial in its lawsuit against Fox, but we shouldn’t forget Smartmatic as the second in a potential one-two punch that knocks out Fox

 

 

[Willfully Horn 8289]

About time. The thought of Fox playing on military base’s tvs gives me heartburn:

Edit: I see TxPete already posted this, but I’m leaving my post because the commercial makes me happy.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Willfully Horn

[Nice Guy Eddie 13744]

WaPo analysis on Powell's appearances on Fox News after the election, what she claimed, and the behind the scenes response:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/03/16/sidney-powell-fox-news-dominion/

non-paywall: https://archive.is/OBsS8

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One day later, though, Powell was back in front of Fox’s cameras, telling host Lou Dobbs that in Arizona, “there were 35,000 votes added to every Democrat candidate just to start their voting off. It’s like getting your $500 of Monopoly money to begin with when you haven’t done anything, and it was only for Democrats.”

and I find the following to be really bad for Fox as this is Maria Bartiromo's on-air statement with zero evidence:

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“I also see reports that Nancy Pelosi’s longtime chief of staff is a key executive at that company; Richard Blum, Senator Feinstein’s husband, significant shareholder of the company,” Bartiromo said. “What can you tell us about the interest on the other side — of this Dominion software?”

This was made-up information by someone on the internet.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Nice Guy Eddie

[WhatTheBuck 28942]

The FCC should revoke their license. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20950]

 

 

[Chuckie Finster 23103]

On 3/14/2023 at 3:26 PM, The Royal We said:

This all hits a little too close to home.

My relationship with my mom got really toxic during Covid/TFG's presidency.  We had to basically make a pact to not discuss politics so we could try to maintain a healthy relationship.  But she tells me she doesn't watch Fox News.

Multiple times in the past few months, we have been over at my parents with their grandkids and my dad has stopped everything to turn on Tucker Carlson.  Literally, one of the times he looked at the clock and it was 7:01 and you'd thought he was about to miss kickoff at the Super Bowl by how fast he moved to find the remote.  He doesn't discuss what he is watching with anyone else, but it's just there... on in the background.  

He used to roll his eyes and redirect his father when he would bring up "SOB Obama" at family dinners, and now my dad is worse than my grandfather ever was.  I don't know why that network is like crack to an entire generation of people, but it indisputably is.

[atomheartbevo 90685]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Multiple times in the past few months, we have been over at my parents with their grandkids and my dad has stopped everything to turn on Tucker Carlson.  Literally, one of the times he looked at the clock and it was 7:01 and you'd thought he was about to miss kickoff at the Super Bowl by how fast he moved to find the remote.  He doesn't discuss what he is watching with anyone else, but it's just there... on in the background.  

He used to roll his eyes and redirect his father when he would bring up "SOB Obama" at family dinners, and now my dad is worse than my grandfather ever was.  I don't know why that network is like crack to an entire generation of people, but it indisputably is.

I have an older relative who would watch Tucker, but recently when the texts/emails in the lawsuit came out, and Tucker and the others plus the management were bashing Trump or Trump's lawyers or Trump's fans, I made sure and sent him a bunch of that stuff and said "wow, I didn't know I hated Trump and his people as much as Tucker and the others at Fox News do - you have to admit, that's pretty funny that they privately mock Trump and his lawers and supporters!"  At first he tried to claim that it had to be fake, but I pointed out that it's in the public record and there's no reason for Fox News to submit texts/emails bashing Trump/his lawyers or supporters unless they meant it.

He may still watch Tucker, but at least that doubt is planted in his mind.

Edited March 16, 2023 by atomheartbevo

[Jhawkmvp 1514]

[mchookem 16788]

On 3/14/2023 at 3:02 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

Yeah, it won’t change anything. But it will give me a chance to just draw a line in the sand and call her out on her bullshit from then on. There are two things she often says that aren’t true. One is, “I never lie,” and the other is, “I’m always seeking the truth.”

The latter one I’ve called her out on before. Many times. I pointed out to her that when I was young she told me not to watch MASH or All in the Family because she’d read in one of her Christian magazines that they’re bad. She never tried sitting down and actually watching either show.

She told me that D&D was evil and I shouldn’t play it. Guess where she heard that? My friends and I used to play it in our family room while she was home. She could’ve come and watched. She never did. She still believes it’s evil, btw.

She doesn’t believe in evolution. I asked her if she would read a book explaining evolutionary biology if I gave it to her. She said she would. She’s a nurse so I figured she could understand it. She never read it. I gave it to her for Christmas. When I gave it to her, my sister was still celebrating the gift her husband gave her of Going Rogue by Sarah Palin. Everyone was so excited for her. My mom took her book and quickly hid it away so no one else could see. (I gave her The Greatest Show on Earth by Richard Dawkins which I know would be fairly incendiary for a religious person to read but suck it, churchie, it’s a great book.)

I reminded her when the Jan. 6 Committee hearings were on. She watched a little, not much. I texted her on Jan 6 during the assault on the Capitol and she replied that what really outraged her was the vandalism that occurred during the BLM protests after the murder of George Floyd.

I’ve told her that if she were really seeking the truth then she wouldn’t watch Fox News. Or at the very least she’d watch some other news sources. Read a little. I’ve warned her that even if she could find a news source that is perfectly objective and unbiased in every way, it would seem to her to be a liberal news source because she’s used to getting her news from such a biased source. An absence of a bias for will seem like a bias against.

Now with all the evidence coming out of the Dominion lawsuit, it’s time to compile it all together and send it to her with links and everything. I’ve told her some of the things that are being reported and she responded, “If you can trust the source.” I got a little hot and exclaimed that one of the sources was Rupert Murdoch himself testifying in a court of law. Can you trust that source? Because if you can’t trust that source then go u’ve created a world in which you’re free to believe or disbelieve anything on a whim, you’re free to believe whatever you want to believe and truth has no meaning anymore. (Yes, I know that is exactly what she’s doing. I figured I should suggest it first to give her a chance to see it for herself before I pass judgment and level the accusation against her.) She agreed that Rupert’s sworn testimony was a good source.

So when I compile all the evidence and submit it to her, evidence that no reasonable person could review and not conclude that Fox News is merely posing as a news service and routinely, knowingly broadcasts lies, and when she continues to watch it and repeat things they tell her as if they’re true, I will tell her she’s a liar. She doesn’t seek the truth. She doesn’t want the truth. She can’t handle the truth. She wants the lies. She knows she wants the lies, and when she says she never lies, she’s lying. Worse yet, she knows she’s lying. She’s not just lying to herself. It’s not like when George said to Jerry that it’s not a lie if you believe it. She’s lying to me with full knowledge that she’s doing so. That will be the only explanation and don’t bother trying to deny it. You can’t gaslight me.

And then she can have her wish and I’ll stop talking politics with her. When she brings anything up I’ll just remind her that she believes in lies and is living in a fantasy world. When I want her opinion, I will tune to Fox News and get it straight from the source. I know their game plan and know what they’ll be saying before I do. It’s a basic playbook. I’ve told her before that I don’t expect to change her mind, but I’m not letting her go to her grave saying no one ever told her the truth and I’m not going to my grave saying I never tried. Well, at least I tried.

i'm sorry about your mom. if mine were still alive i'd be struggling with a similar relationship, no doubt. 

i like to share this every once in a while to remind people the phrase 'broke brained' is not a metaphor.

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

 

[Horn Dog 10188]

21 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

So 79% of their viewers read those texts calling them cousin fuckin morons and have the same or more trust in Fox News??

 

[Biff Tannen 46207]

2 hours ago, mchookem said:

i'm sorry about your mom. if mine were still alive i'd be struggling with a similar relationship, no doubt. 

i like to share this every once in a while to remind people the phrase 'broke brained' is not a metaphor.

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

 

Had not seen that Oatmeal before.  Very good.

[WhatTheBuck 28942]

2 hours ago, mchookem said:

i'm sorry about your mom. if mine were still alive i'd be struggling with a similar relationship, no doubt. 

i like to share this every once in a while to remind people the phrase 'broke brained' is not a metaphor.

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

 

That’s pretty good. Coincidentally, that first source about the Pledge of Allegiance I already had bookmarked. (Hey everybody, did you see how that author cited all his source material? Take a lesson, people!)

I liked this part:

I wonder if I could send that to my mom. It has several instances of the F-word and I worry that her brain will just shut down because she thinks it’s obscene. I’ll have to give it a shot.

[HenryJames 67474]

And this is now a problem for their viewers?

[NWBuck 8631]

12 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I wonder if I could send that to my mom. It has several instances of the F-word and I worry that her brain will just shut down because she thinks it’s obscene. I’ll have to give it a shot.

Matt also did a 'clean' version... 

[RPM 26682]

On 3/14/2023 at 6:48 PM, Dnaguy said:

No one watches Fox News.

it’s just on.

doctors offices.

Boomer houses.

the old folks home.

It ejaculates into the either and the right wing thought sperms race to fertilize the brains of olds and dumbs much like the opening scene of ‘Look Who’s Talking’.

 

I closed my accounts at the bank I had done business with since 1975 because they put FOX News on in the lobby. If I can't trust their judgement, why would I trust them with my money?

[WhatTheBuck 28942]

3 hours ago, NWBuck said:

Matt also did a 'clean' version... 

Thanks! That’s awesome.

It can be frustrating. There have been numerous pieces by Jon Stewart of John Oliver that are very informative and make great points through satire that I’d love to send my mom’s way but they contain several F-bombs and maybe other terms she’d find offensive so I don’t feel I can share them with her. One in particular by John Oliver had at least a couple uses of the word “jizz” and I doubt she even knows what that means. I certainly wouldn’t want to be the one to have to explain it to her.

[TheStoicPaisano 9954]

Just explain it the way one would explain “ah skeet skeet skeet” 20 years ago.

[GhostOfTomJoad 9528]

On 3/16/2023 at 3:30 PM, Chuckie Finster said:

Multiple times in the past few months, we have been over at my parents with their grandkids and my dad has stopped everything to turn on Tucker Carlson.  Literally, one of the times he looked at the clock and it was 7:01 and you'd thought he was about to miss kickoff at the Super Bowl by how fast he moved to find the remote.  He doesn't discuss what he is watching with anyone else, but it's just there... on in the background.  

He used to roll his eyes and redirect his father when he would bring up "SOB Obama" at family dinners, and now my dad is worse than my grandfather ever was.  I don't know why that network is like crack to an entire generation of people, but it indisputably is.

My Fox-addicted Trumpkin FIL died on the eve of the Jan 6th insurrection. My wife told me this year on the two year anniversary of the raiding of the Capitol that she was glad her dad didn't live to see the events live. I said something like "yeah, that would have been a pretty horrific final scene to watch over and over." But her reply was what really stunned me.

"He would have died believing Trump actually won and that the insurrectionists were going to change history. And he would have been thrilled. I wouldn't want him thinking he was right for eternity."

She went through being less important than Fox News. During the Obama years she was routinely shunned when we'd make the 2 1/2 hour drive to visit them only to discover that he couldn't pull himself away from O'Reilly or Hannity. And since he was deaf you could hear the TV before you got out of the car. The MIL finally put a "no Fox/politics" edict during family visits. And showing the power of hope, since he's been gone the MIL never watches Fox news. It's TCM, Food Network and HGTV. I'm sure she's still voting GQP, but at least we don't have to go to see her in Kerrville and see poison on TV the entire time.

[YGIFS 19458]

^

That sounds like some of the conversations I've had with family.  Sorry your spouse lost their pops though.  

I actually miss the days when my mom would visit and would want to tune in for O'Reilly.  He was annoying, but in hindsight fairly harmless compared to what he laid the foundation for.  I know she binges FoxNews now and will frequently call my MAGA/Q cousin in Hays County to discuss.  But they largely leave me out of it.  And I'm fine with it.  Only two times I spoke up was during Covid and then one other slip-up about Herschel Walker being in the same special ed. class as my sister. 

But Fox during the day about Covid was crap, but not outright dangerous.  And she was at work or volunteering anyway.   But she'd tune in at night and just get the batshit crazy and thought Covid-19 was bullshit.  And my fucking cousin was not helping.  Here's my mom in year two of the pandemic, then 75, obese, smoked for 50 years and has to do oxygen regiments every day for breathing wellness, is Hispanic, and gets pneumonia almost every year.  And my cousin has her believing, because of FoxNews and some "do my own research" lunatic on her street, that masking and vaccines are bullshit.  And my mom is fine to travel to Texas to see the family.  I told them all that she can come but she has to get the first shot, mask up at airports, etc.  My cousin fires back, "Well Tucker says blahblahblah, and I think he knows better than you or I."  And I hit back with, "If you had said 'I believe this and that in my heart and mind'.......I'd have respected it more but when you're just quoting people as uniformed as we are in science, that's when you lost me." 

It hit me then, it's not what FoxNews feeds them.  That's almost all media and entertainment, giving the masses what they want.  I think we're hyperbolic a lot about family and friends and Fox on here oftentimes.  What rubs me the wrong way about them is that they replace a part of people that are important to us.  If you're the exact same person just with a layer of Fox talking points added on top, fine.  But somehow Fox erodes a couple of layers from the person we know, and then adds their shit in its place.  That's what stings.  they convince you to strip away part of what makes you, you.  And add in some bullshit.  But they make you comfortable while they're doing it, and convince you that it's the rest of us that need re-programming.

[TheStoicPaisano 9954]

Pinch-hitting for Laura Ingraham, a pleather jacket and blonde weave.

 

[RPM 26682]

Kayleigh obviously hasn't watched 1923.

[Willfully Horn 8289]

And has no idea what is meant by prohibiting the establishment of a religion. And she is certainly not alone in that. We have many in this online community that are similarly nonplussed by the right’s efforts to do exactly that.

[Biff Tannen 46207]

7 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Pinch-hitting for Laura Ingraham, a pleather jacket and blonde weave.

 

Wow.  And that chyron...

[TheStoicPaisano 9954]

Bingo Bongo resurfaces. His hairline doesn’t.

 

[Post Oak 20592]

16 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Bingo Bongo resurfaces. His hairline doesn’t.

 

Everyone knows Dems are thin blue line guys. 

 

[elfenix 34787]

fox nation about to blow open the juicy smollet story per the ads on the world baseball classic

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20950]

Fox News is now taking legal action against one of its top producers in an effort to silence her amid the ongoing Dominion lawsuit.

In a Monday complaint filed in the Supreme Court of New York, Fox News alleged that Abby Grossberg, a senior booking producer for Tucker Carlson, has threatened the network with a discrimination lawsuit and, in doing so, has threatened to publicly disclose privileged conversations she had with Fox News lawyers in advance of her own September 2022 deposition in the Dominion defamation case.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-tries-to-silence-top-producer-abby-grossberg-who-threatened-to-reveal-internal-convos?via=twitter_page

[atomheartbevo 90685]

So if he's arrested tomorrow, how is Fox News going to cover it?  Will they instead talk about Hunter's laptop, Hunter's Dong, Hillary's emails, Pete taking paternity leave or just being gay?

[henrygandorf 29230]

7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So if he's arrested tomorrow, how is Fox News going to cover it?  Will they instead talk about Hunter's laptop, Hunter's Dong, Hillary's emails, Pete taking paternity leave or just being gay?

 

[Francisco 2.0 32620]

Nothing.  Just a former producer for Tucker who is claiming Fox legal counsel wanted her to take the fall for their voting stories, and tried to intimidate her before her deposition last fall...followed by Fox countersuing her:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/business/media/fox-news-abby-grossberg.html

 

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A Fox News producer who has worked with the hosts Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson filed lawsuits against the company in New York and Delaware on Monday, accusing Fox lawyers of coercing her into giving misleading testimony in the continuing legal battle around the network’s coverage of unfounded claims about election fraud.

The producer, Abby Grossberg, said Fox lawyers had tried to position her and Ms. Bartiromo to take the blame for Fox’s repeated airing of conspiracy theories about Dominion Voting Systems and its supposed role in manipulating the results of the 2020 presidential election. Dominion has filed a $1.6 billion defamation suit against Fox. Ms. Grossberg said the effort to place blame on her and Ms. Bartiromo was rooted in rampant misogyny and discrimination at the network.

 

 

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The new lawsuits, coupled with revelations from the Dominion legal fight, shed light on the rivalries and turf battles that raged at Fox News in the wake of the 2020 election, as network executives fought to hold on to viewers furious at the top-rated network for accurately reporting on President Donald J. Trump’s defeat in Arizona, a crucial swing state.

The lawsuits also include details about Ms. Grossberg’s work life at Fox and on Mr. Carlson’s show. Ms. Grossberg says she and other women endured frank and open sexism from co-workers and superiors at the network, which has been dogged for years by lawsuits and allegations about sexual harassment by Fox executives and stars.

 

 

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The network’s disregard for women, Ms. Grossberg alleged, left her and Ms. Bartiromo understaffed — stretched too thin to properly vet the truthfulness of claims made against Dominion on the air. At times, Ms. Grossberg said, she was the only full-time employee dedicated solely to Ms. Bartiromo’s Sunday-morning show.

In her complaints, Ms. Grossberg accuses lawyers for Fox News of coaching her in “a coercive and intimidating manner” before her September deposition in the Dominion case. The lawyers, she said, gave her the impression that she had to avoid mentioning prominent male executives and on-air talent to protect them from any blame, while putting her own reputation at risk.

 

 

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“That’s what the culture is there,” Ms. Grossberg said in an interview on Monday evening. “They don’t respect or value women.”

On Monday afternoon, Fox filed its own suit against Ms. Grossberg, seeking to enjoin her from filing claims that would shed light on her discussions with the company’s lawyers. A judge has not yet ruled on Fox’s suit. Later on Monday, according to her lawyer, Parisis G. Filippatos, Fox also placed Ms. Grossberg on forced administrative leave.

Ms. Grossberg’s lawsuits were filed in the Southern District of New York and in Superior Court in Delaware, where a pretrial hearing in the Dominion defamation lawsuit is scheduled for Tuesday.

In a statement, a Fox spokeswoman said: “Fox News Media engaged an independent outside counsel to immediately investigate the concerns raised by Ms. Grossberg, which were made following a critical performance review. We will vigorously defend these claims.”

According to the lawsuits filed by Ms. Grossberg, Fox superiors called Ms. Bartiromo a “crazy bitch” who was “menopausal” and asked Ms. Grossberg to cut the host out of coverage discussions.

Last year, she began working as a senior booking producer at “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” On her first full day, according to the lawsuit, Ms. Grossberg discovered that the show’s Manhattan work space was decorated with large pictures of Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, then the House speaker, wearing a plunging swimsuit.

The next day, Justin Wells, Mr. Carlson’s top producer, called Ms. Grossberg into his office, she said, to ask whether Ms. Bartiromo was having a sexual relationship with the House Republican leader, Kevin McCarthy.

Mr. Carlson’s staff joked about Jews and freely deployed a vulgar term for women, according to the complaint.

Later that fall, it said, before an appearance on the show by Tudor Dixon, the Republican candidate for Michigan governor, Mr. Carlson’s staff held a mock debate about whether they would prefer to have sex with Ms. Dixon or her Democratic opponent, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

After Ms. Grossberg complained about harassment from two male producers on the show, she was pulled into a meeting with human resources and told that she was not performing her duties, according to the complaint.

Some text exchanges between Ms. Grossberg and Ms. Bartiromo were released as part of court filings in the Dominion lawsuit. In one instance, Ms. Bartiromo asked Ms. Grossberg if she should have pushed Mr. Trump in an interview on whether he would peacefully transition from the presidency. Ms. Grossberg replied: “To be honest, our audience doesn’t want to hear about a peaceful transition.”

During her deposition, Ms. Grossberg was asked if she cared whether claims made on Ms. Bartiromo’s show were true or false. According to the transcript, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No. Because we didn’t know if they were true or false at that time.” When asked if she felt it was important to correct a false claim made on the air, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No.”

In her lawsuits, Ms. Grossberg said she would have answered those questions differently but had been “coached by and intimidated by” Fox’s lawyers.

Ms. Grossberg claimed that Fox lawyers pressured her to downplay a text exchange between her and David Clark, then the senior vice president of weekend news, regarding a segment with Rudolph W. Giuliani, a lawyer for Mr. Trump. Mr. Clark texted: “There will be no ‘fact checking’ today.”

Ms. Grossberg said she had understood Mr. Clark to mean that Ms. Bartiromo was not to push back against Mr. Giuliani’s false claims of widespread election fraud.

 

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9 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Nothing.  Just a former producer for Tucker who is claiming Fox legal counsel wanted her to take the fall for their voting stories, and tried to intimidate her before her deposition last fall...followed by Fox countersuing her:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/business/media/fox-news-abby-grossberg.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

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“That’s what the culture is there,” Ms. Grossberg said in an interview on Monday evening. “They don’t respect or value women.”

On Monday afternoon, Fox filed its own suit against Ms. Grossberg, seeking to enjoin her from filing claims that would shed light on her discussions with the company’s lawyers. A judge has not yet ruled on Fox’s suit. Later on Monday, according to her lawyer, Parisis G. Filippatos, Fox also placed Ms. Grossberg on forced administrative leave.

Ms. Grossberg’s lawsuits were filed in the Southern District of New York and in Superior Court in Delaware, where a pretrial hearing in the Dominion defamation lawsuit is scheduled for Tuesday.

In a statement, a Fox spokeswoman said: “Fox News Media engaged an independent outside counsel to immediately investigate the concerns raised by Ms. Grossberg, which were made following a critical performance review. We will vigorously defend these claims.”

According to the lawsuits filed by Ms. Grossberg, Fox superiors called Ms. Bartiromo a “crazy bitch” who was “menopausal” and asked Ms. Grossberg to cut the host out of coverage discussions.

Last year, she began working as a senior booking producer at “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” On her first full day, according to the lawsuit, Ms. Grossberg discovered that the show’s Manhattan work space was decorated with large pictures of Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, then the House speaker, wearing a plunging swimsuit.

The next day, Justin Wells, Mr. Carlson’s top producer, called Ms. Grossberg into his office, she said, to ask whether Ms. Bartiromo was having a sexual relationship with the House Republican leader, Kevin McCarthy.

Mr. Carlson’s staff joked about Jews and freely deployed a vulgar term for women, according to the complaint.

Later that fall, it said, before an appearance on the show by Tudor Dixon, the Republican candidate for Michigan governor, Mr. Carlson’s staff held a mock debate about whether they would prefer to have sex with Ms. Dixon or her Democratic opponent, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

After Ms. Grossberg complained about harassment from two male producers on the show, she was pulled into a meeting with human resources and told that she was not performing her duties, according to the complaint.

Some text exchanges between Ms. Grossberg and Ms. Bartiromo were released as part of court filings in the Dominion lawsuit. In one instance, Ms. Bartiromo asked Ms. Grossberg if she should have pushed Mr. Trump in an interview on whether he would peacefully transition from the presidency. Ms. Grossberg replied: “To be honest, our audience doesn’t want to hear about a peaceful transition.”

During her deposition, Ms. Grossberg was asked if she cared whether claims made on Ms. Bartiromo’s show were true or false. According to the transcript, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No. Because we didn’t know if they were true or false at that time.” When asked if she felt it was important to correct a false claim made on the air, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No.”

In her lawsuits, Ms. Grossberg said she would have answered those questions differently but had been “coached by and intimidated by” Fox’s lawyers.

Ms. Grossberg claimed that Fox lawyers pressured her to downplay a text exchange between her and David Clark, then the senior vice president of weekend news, regarding a segment with Rudolph W. Giuliani, a lawyer for Mr. Trump. Mr. Clark texted: “There will be no ‘fact checking’ today.”

Ms. Grossberg said she had understood Mr. Clark to mean that Ms. Bartiromo was not to push back against Mr. Giuliani’s false claims of widespread election fraud.

 

Whatever you do, don't look three posts above yours.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

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Reading further about Abby Grossberg, I am SHOCKED to read that FOX news execs forced Abby to spy on Maria Bartiromo and that they thought she was "crazy," "menopausal,"  and "hysterical."

From Twitter:

At Fox News the hose and the nozzle
Are contributing or are they causal?
Fascism is spreading
'Cause Maria is shedding
Or perhaps she is just menopausal
 

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Top 7 stories at 9:00am-EDT on Foxnews.com  

Not a thing about Trump, but some former MLB player's daughter getting into modeling.  Hard hitting news.  

They must be worried.  Which means, I need to ask the important question---is it too early to start smoking Quaaludes?  And how would one go about doing that?  

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4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Top 7 stories at 9:00am-EDT on Foxnews.com  

Not a thing about Trump, but some former MLB player's daughter getting into modeling.  Hard hitting news.  

They must be worried.  Which means, I need to ask the important question---is it too early to start smoking Quaaludes?  And how would one go about doing that?  

You'll know they are worried when Hunter's laptop is the top story.  Or gas stoves.

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3 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Whatever you do, don't look three posts above yours.

NYT > Daily Beast and was the original source of the story. Plus he quoted large portions of the text. I judge his to be the superior post. 

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17 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

 

That’s a good idea. Remind us how trivial the basis for Clinton’s impeachment was compared to Trump’s impeachments for a) subverting U.S. foreign policy by extorting Ukraine in an attempt to smear a domestic political opponent and b) inciting an insurrection in an attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. But OMG! Bill Clinton lied about getting a blowjob! That should go over well. 

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2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

NYT > Daily Beast and was the original source of the story. Plus he quoted large portions of the text. I judge his to be the superior post. 

I am cut! I do confess I fear I breathe my last!

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4 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

NYT > Daily Beast and was the original source of the story. Plus he quoted large portions of the text. I judge his to be the superior post. 

someone posted this the other day and I am going to use it as much as possible

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