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Mrs Whiggins

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Note the bit where Trumps says, "If he keeps the Presidency and the GOP retakes the House." Always an implied treat/threat with the mafia, that's how they roll. And when the bait and switch happens and there is no treat, no plan, no help, "Yeah, we did it. So what? Whatcha gonna do about it?"

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40 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Note the bit where Trumps says, "If he keeps the Presidency and the GOP retakes the House." Always an implied treat/threat with the mafia, that's how they roll. And when the bait and switch happens and there is no treat, no plan, no help, "Yeah, we did it. So what? Whatcha gonna do about it?"

Of course, Trump is looking to bribe the middle class either before or after the election. And he will effectively dare the Dem House to not go along with this plan. It will be an effective campaign tool.

the topic extends past Fox News but it's really questionable why we would want to use a economic tool to goose the economy when by many measures the economy is already doing well. Lowering income taxes takes away from slowing down inevitable, future recessions.

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I read that, and I'm thinking "I really do NOT want to know how many people will read Pirro's tweet and say, 'she's right! It's so unfair!" The back and forth reinforcement between what Fox hosts tweet and say and what the President says and tweets is amazing to behold. The synchronicity, the timing, Barr really knew what he was doing when he met with Murdoch.in October.

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Is that a real tweet? I mean... isn't she a judge? 

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing and I went and looked it up.  Not only was she a judge but she was also a prosecutor.  So yeah, that's just straight up her taking advantage of an audience who has no idea how our system works.  

I will never understand how these people manage to bury their shame for straight up lying like they do.  

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8 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing and I went and looked it up.  Not only was she a judge but she was also a prosecutor.  So yeah, that's just straight up her taking advantage of an audience who has no idea how our system works.  

I will never understand how these people manage to bury their shame for straight up lying like they do.  

it's amazing to me. she's no doubt given plenty of opening statements in court that implicate the defendant as guilty, because that's the fucking prosecution's job.

it's the fact that they seem like they earnestly believe the lies and misdirection that's so breathtaking. it's like when lindsey graham or jim jordan get all worked up - are they really that angry about the truth? or are they just performing for an audience of one and 43% of the country? i do not understand how these people can sell their integrity so openly.

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4 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

it's amazing to me. she's no doubt given plenty of opening statements in court that implicate the defendant as guilty, because that's the fucking prosecution's job.

it's the fact that they seem like they earnestly believe the lies and misdirection that's so breathtaking. it's like when lindsey graham or jim jordan get all worked up - are they really that angry about the truth? or are they just performing for an audience of one and 43% of the country? i do not understand how these people can sell their integrity so openly.

These have long been a questions I've had about the more outlandish Republican politicians and pundits out there.

Are they evil people, who know they're playing to an audience of crazies and dumbasses?
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Are they crazy dumbasses, who don't know they're playing to an audience of evil people?

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2 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

it's amazing to me. she's no doubt given plenty of opening statements in court that implicate the defendant as guilty, because that's the fucking prosecution's job.

it's the fact that they seem like they earnestly believe the lies and misdirection that's so breathtaking. it's like when lindsey graham or jim jordan get all worked up - are they really that angry about the truth? or are they just performing for an audience of one and 43% of the country? i do not understand how these people can sell their integrity so openly.

In Jordan's case, I wonder if it isn't the athlete mentality of performing for his coach, competing to WIN, and so on. Rationalizing that every deed benefits not only him, but his team. Despite his denials to the contrary, the report regarding the Ohio State abuse was ambiguous regarding Jordan's knowledge. No hard evidence, but confirming that the doctor's predilections were common knowledge among coaching staff. Jordan took that as an outright acquittal. Given his current behavior, regarding the truth, I am skeptical.

How has the Oath of Office been rendered so meaningless? As long as we the people have allowed some of us to be discarded and disenfranchised, silenced or shackled, those voices who would remind us of our collective conscience toward the inalienable rights of all of us are made a mockery by our sedentary disposure toward the ballot box and the idea that to the least of these you have done unto me.

 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

These have long been a questions I've had about the more outlandish Republican politicians and pundits out there.

Are they evil people, who know they're playing to an audience of crazies and dumbasses?
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Are they crazy dumbasses, who don't know they're playing to an audience of evil people?

It’s actually simpler than that. They’re being paid to say it, and not just by their publicly known employers or their public constituents. 
 

Its almost always about the money. Except for Lindsey graham of course. Whatever he did must be pretty bad, and on tape. 

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1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

There really are no other options at this point.  The truly astonishing thing to me is that I’m becoming more and more convinced that many of them are just actually so crazy and stupid that they  manage to believe all of this outrageous and wildly contradictory bullshit.  The cognitive dissonance is amazing.

Certainly, many of them are cynical grifters who know exactly what they’re doing, but a lot of people just earnestly convince themselves that the first principle is “whatever my political party / hero politician says is always right”, and that’s the extent of their analysis on everything.  

Sure, many are grifters.   But plenty are acting like somebody has blackmail, or black male, material floating around on them.   No other explanation, because they are willing to burn the place down and completely torch their reputations   

 

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Lindsey Graham turned on a dime. He went from foaming at the mouth when talking about Trump to "whoa hold on there, I actually really love this man!". 

This is the craziest one to me.  The dotard has something on him.  Something bad.  There is no other explanation.

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Regarding all the pols who have left the GOP, just wish there was one, he/she  may be the only one left, but just one that would fall on the sword for America.

Vilified, maligned, abused, drummed out of office, perhaps arrested but just facing that defining moment, making the choice and living with the repercussions.

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On 1/17/2020 at 10:18 PM, Bama Chick said:

 

 


Literally under his name when he spewed this horseshit.

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I know a guy (who inherited millions when his dad died and has never accomplished shit himself) who paid a ton of dough to travel with Eric (and dozens of other saps who paid big money) on a golf trip to Scotland.   This was a year or so ago. 

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It really is sickening how Fox 'shows' the House Managers speaking, but it's split screen with a live speaker talking about other things.  And just now, the House speaker showed a slide of a letter from GAO or whatever stating that Trump broke the law by withholding the funds, and Fox switched to a live view of the US Capitol building.  When the slide came down, they went back to the live view of the lady speaking.  (I was watching CNN, with Fox on the channel preview version).

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On 1/10/2020 at 8:08 AM, Mrs Whiggins said:

And she is interviewing the President tonight on her show. I try very hard not to wish ill on others, etc, but that Fox creator Murdoch will be joining Ailes in hell.

Good for you.  I wish the worst for her.  I hope the next time she steps outside, lightning strikes her ass.  But I don’t want her dead...let her live on as a quadriplegic.  
And when I said strikes her ass, I mean literally her ass, hopefully later in life, that leads to ass cancer and she can live the rest of her days shitting in a leaky colostomy bag.  

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17 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

we all know that he loves cock.  Why is he so scared for it to become public? 

 

18 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

It's the type of cock.  They are either black or underage.

Yeeah, I get what the folks are saying about him simply being a weasel, but he gives off a Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil vibe only w/o the gun and South Carolina instead of Georgia. I don't know if something happened way back when he was stationed in Germany in the 80's that Putin 's KGB scooped up and held on to for later or something that happened stateside or what, but his popularity in his home state is shaky right now apparently.

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If you turned on Fox News on Thursday night to catch the ongoing Senate impeachment trial of Donald Trump -- only the third time in American history a president has faced such a proceeding -- you were sorely disappointed.

Fox wasn't showing the trial -- as CNN and MSNBC were. Instead, Fox ran its usual primetime lineup of pro-Trump voices with the trial confined to a small corner of the screen, without sound. Sean Hannity, the network's flagship host, called the entire impeachment trial a "snoozefest." The previous night, when Fox again ran its primetime lineup rather than live coverage of the impeachment trial, Hannity noted: "If I were a terrible host. I would force you to endure watching the regurgitation, the repetition ... the insanity that has gone on all day." 

In each episode of his weekly YouTube show, Chris Cillizza will delve a little deeper into the surreal world of politics. Click to subscUnless you have spent the last few years on another planet, that programming decision won't surprise you. Fox has relentlessly promoted and defended Trump -- and he has responded in kind by showering its hosts with coveted interviews.
But what's terrifying about how Fox News is choosing to cover (or not cover) the impeachment trial is revealed in new polling from the Pew Research Center delving into trust (or lack thereof) in the media.

Asked to name media companies in which they have trust, 65% of Republicans named Fox News. One in 3 named ABC. And that's it. Not a single other news source was trusted by even 33% of self-identified Republicans in the Pew poll. 
 
That's in stark contrast to both Democrats and the population at large. More than 1 in 3 Democrats named 13 media sources they trust. The general public named 8: ABC (48% trusted), CNN (47%), NBC (47%), CBS (45%), Fox News (43%), PBS (42%), BBC (35%), The New York Times (35%) and MSNBC (34%). (Note: The pollsters went through 30 media sources with the respondents.)
 
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Now, consider what those numbers mean. 
 
A majority of Republicans (and Republican-leaning independents) don't trust ANY media company other than Fox News. And two thirds don't trust ANY media companies other than Fox News and ABC. The next 3 most-trusted media sourced among Republicans? CBS, NBC and, wait for it, the Sean Hannity radio show -- all of which are trusted by 3 in 10 people. Eighteen of the 30 media courses that Pew asked about were trusted by less than 1 in 5 Republicans and Republican-leaners.
 
Combine those numbers with Fox News's overwhelming viewership numbers among Republicans (60% get their election news from Fox; no other outlet gets above 30%), and the marked difference between its content and that of all the other mainstream media outlets, and you see a major reason for why we are where we are, politically speaking.
 
If you only trust one news outlet and that news outlet is telling a very different -- and factually challenged -- version of current events, a massive disconnect is created. It's not too much to say that Fox News viewers are occupying a different (and less fact-based) reality than the people who seek out other sources for their news.
 
And it is into that disconnect, that information void, that Trump has leaped -- and now resides. What Trump has done and is doing is use his own massive social media following to amplify the messages on national news offered by Fox News. Trump regularly tweets and retweets Fox News segments to his 71+ million Twitter followers. He often directly quotes from Fox personalities. He works to create a totally closed information ecosystem for his supporters -- and largely succeeds.
 
That so many Republicans believe a) Fox is the only network to be trusted and b) trust in Trump despite his demonstrated lack of concern for telling the truth allows both the network and Trump to succeed. But their success comes at a price. A big one. And one that we will continue to pay for years and years to come.
 
 
 
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20 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Lulz he's fucking terrified. I wonder how deep he is in this shit? 

 

Michael Cohen is one of his attorneys.  So... diarrhea.  

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Wrong corrupt lawyer and said lawyer had his license pulled.
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/02/republicans-are-spreading-voter-fraud-disinformation-in-an-election-theyre-not-even-running-in/

 

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Conservative groups are trying to peddle conspiracy claims of voter fraud to undermine an election that doesn’t even involve Republicans.

Judicial Watch, a conservative advocacy group, put out a report on Monday claiming that “Eight Iowa counties have more voter registrations than citizens old enough to register.”

Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate, who is a pro-voter-ID law conservative, refuted the claim on Twitter and linked to Iowa’s own numbers debunking Judicial Watch’s report. 

 

 

 

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-internal-document-bashes-john-solomon-joe-digenova-and-rudy-giuliani-for-spreading-disinformation?ref=author

 

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Fox News’ own research team has warned colleagues not to trust some of the network’s top commentators’ claims about Ukraine.

An internal Fox News research briefing book obtained by The Daily Beast openly questions Fox News contributor John Solomon’s credibility, accusing him of playing an “indispensable role” in a Ukrainian “disinformation campaign.”

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The document also accuses frequent Fox News guest Rudy Giuliani of amplifying disinformation, as part of an effort to oust former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, and blasts Fox News guests Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova—both ardent Trump boosters—for “spreading disinformation.”  

The 162-page document, entitled “Ukraine, Disinformation, & the Trump Administration,” was created by Fox News senior political affairs specialist Bryan S. Murphy, who produces research from what is known as the network’s Brain Room—a newsroom division of researchers who provide information, data, and topic guides for the network’s programming.

 

 

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