2019 MLB thread

[WBT 20,638]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

It’s funny to me that there are still people out there (besides pitchers, of course) who feel like that should absolutely be part of the game. With the technology that we have, the technology that’s already in place for the most part, that’s indefensible. People make mistakes. I imagine calling balls and strikes is pretty fucking tough, so I don’t really blame the umpires as much as I blame Manfred. He should have to answer for shit like that, not the umpires.

The technology isn't fast enough or accurate enough

[shnsajax 3,591]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

It’s funny to me that there are still people out there (besides pitchers, of course) who feel like that should absolutely be part of the game. With the technology that we have, the technology that’s already in place for the most part, that’s indefensible. People make mistakes. I imagine calling balls and strikes is pretty fucking tough, so I don’t really blame the umpires as much as I blame Manfred. He should have to answer for shit like that, not the umpires.

The umpires union has way too much fucking power when they should have none. 

[Pato del Muerto 52,532]

12 minutes ago, shnsajax said:

The umpires union has way too much fucking power when they should have none. 

That was dealt with about 25 years ago with Ritchie Phillips, and it can be dealt with again. 

[cactusflinthead 27,601]

20 minutes ago, shnsajax said:

The umpires union has way too much fucking power when they should have none. 

Remember when they went on strike and nobody gave a shit?

Good times. 

 

[cactusflinthead 27,601]

35 minutes ago, WBT said:

The technology isn't fast enough or accurate enough

Wait what? Does the baseball travel faster than the speed of light? Is there a disruption over the plate that requires a human because the tools we have are useless?

I think that's BS

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

4 hours ago, TheFlagship said:

An incredible shitting of the bed by the Rockies in the 9th

Gave up 6 runs in the 9th and 5 runs in the 12th. Ouch

[Beau Vine 54,296]

13 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Interesting he signed below slot. 

He's nearly 20 years old, even though he's in high school.

[Goo Punch 4,275]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

He's nearly 20 years old, even though he's in high school.

i know that game.

[Pato del Muerto 52,532]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

He's nearly 20 years old, even though he's in high school.

So you’re saying he never had any intention of going to college for 2 years and starting his minor league career at 22. 

[WBT 20,638]

17 hours ago, spystud13 said:

Most steals of home since 1974? Don’t think many would guess this name. 

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Good strategy with odor up with 2 outs

[Goo Punch 4,275]

good. we need more of this.


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[Beau Vine 54,296]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So you’re saying he never had any intention of going to college for 2 years and starting his minor league career at 22. 

I'm saying he didn't have the negotiating leverage of most top HS picks.

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

From earlier this week, but like I was saying before, I just like how this dude breaks down unusual plays. He kinda sounds like Sean McVay in this one, but maybe that’s just me.

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

also this. I’ve never seen anyone do this before, but it makes sense.

[Goo Punch 4,275]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

From earlier this week, but like I was saying before, I just like how this dude breaks down unusual plays. He kinda sounds like Sean McVay in this one, but maybe that’s just me.

"bases hucked"? "the pill"? "bowl of lettuce?" i hate the way that guy talks, and he didn't even actually break anything down, he just showed the play and talked over it. 

[Scraps 13,569]

Yordan Alvarez > Aaron Judge

Prove me wrong

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

9 minutes ago, Goo Punch said:

"bases hucked"? "the pill"? "bowl of lettuce?" i hate the way that guy talks, and he didn't even actually break anything down, he just showed the play and talked over it. 

Apparently we don’t think the exact same things are funny. Crazy how that works. 

I guess I just like how he points out a lot of the small shit with his accent. Reminds me of my old baseball coach. But I’ll quit posting them

[Guadaloopy 10,987]

17 hours ago, WBT said:

The technology isn't fast enough or accurate enough

The technology is fast enough, but you are right about the accuracy.  Just in that clip, you can see that the pitch is closer to the edge of the plate than the pitch tracker shows.  

[Pato del Muerto 52,532]

26 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

The technology is fast enough, but you are right about the accuracy.  Just in that clip, you can see that the pitch is closer to the edge of the plate than the pitch tracker shows.  

You are assuming that the technology currently in use is the best available. I don’t know if that is true or not. 

[TonyTexas 10,518]

You are assuming that the technology currently in use is the best available. I don’t know if that is true or not. 

How would it account for different height players and stances?

[Pato del Muerto 52,532]

6 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

How would it account for different height players and stances?

Don’t know. I don’t know how the current tech works or how it could be improved with a mandate and some money. 

[spystud13 2,371]

This is very Grossman-esque. 

 

 

[Helobious 9,463]

2 hours ago, Scraps said:

Yordan Alvarez > Aaron Judge

Prove me wrong

Which one of those guys has won a ROY, hit 50+ homers in a year, and is sponsored by Pepsi? 

[Limp Brisket 546]

Braves pitcher just took a 102mph Realmuto line drive off the back of the head, the ball went over the dugout after it ricocheted off his head.  Dude was pulled but looked fine.  Realmuto covered his mouth with both hands going down the baseline.  Scary shit.

[spystud13 2,371]

Damn, Encarnacion to the Yanks. 

Edited June 16, 2019 by spystud13

[TonyTexas 10,518]

Which one of those guys has won a ROY, hit 50+ homers in a year, and is sponsored by Pepsi? 

Including the minors, he had 27 already. And he’s will soon be sponsored by H-E-B

[Goo Punch 4,275]

 

 

[spystud13 2,371]

If they play both big boys in the corners, EE at DH, Voit at 1B, that won’t be real fun for most lefties. 

[TexasHooch 5,122]

Joe Mauer's number was retired tonight in MN.

People were... festive.

 

[spystud13 2,371]

 

Urshela, Gardner, Romine, Frazier/Maybin on bench. 

[TonyTexas 10,518]

Joe Mauer's number was retired tonight in MN.
People were... festive.
 

I didn’t know Sarah Silverman was a Joe Mauer fan.

[TonyTexas 10,518]

17 minutes ago, spystud13 said:

 

Let’s compare 

 

Springer 8

Bregman 5

Altuve 4

Alvarez DH

Brantley 7

Correa 6

Chirinos 2

Gurriel 3

Reddick 9

 

Edited June 16, 2019 by TonyTexas

[Pato del Muerto 52,532]

1 hour ago, TexasHooch said:

Joe Mauer's number was retired tonight in MN.

People were... festive.

 

You sure that’s not a picture from a game in Kansas City?

[TheFlagship 436]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

Let’s compare 

 

Springer 8

Bregman 5

Altuve 4

Alvarez DH

Brantley 7

Correa 6

Chirinos 2

Gurriel 3

Reddick 9

 

Yeah sorry that’s no comparison to the yanks. Big advantage in pitching tho

[TonyTexas 10,518]

Yeah sorry that’s no comparison to the yanks. Big advantage in pitching tho

Lulz. OK Arlingtonian

[spystud13 2,371]

Tony, you’re a good poster, but that reply is 100% why I didn’t bother. Any anti-Astro sentiment is regarded as some kind of attack. 

Your team is badass, but it’s okay to have differing opinions. 

[TonyTexas 10,518]

Tony, you’re a good poster, but that reply is 100% why I didn’t bother. Any anti-Astro sentiment is regarded as some kind of attack. 
Your team is badass, but it’s okay to have differing opinions. 

Maybe. But do you really agree that there is no comparison? Plus consider the source to my snarky reply. Flagship.

[gsoda3 3,271]

 
Urshela, Gardner, Romine, Frazier/Maybin on bench. 

That's sick.

Thought this was funny.

[spystud13 2,371]

I am fully aware Flagship ain't the most popular around here with the Hou faithful, but really anyone picking the Yanks would get it. 

 

Personally, if all 18 players in both starting lineups were 100% healthy, I would take the Yanks too. 

Of course none of this matters now because there are so many ILs next to both lineups. 

Edited June 16, 2019 by spystud13

[TheFlagship 436]

I didn’t even mean any shade towards Houston. Obviously y’all have a badass team, esp when you factor in pitching. But a healthy Judge-Stanton-Sanchez-Voit-EE middle of the order hits 200  bombs if fully healthy. Don’t think any team in baseball compares to that.

[WBT 20,638]

Jansen should have intentionally balked Rizzo to 1st

[TheFlagship 436]

Huge 2 run jack by Rizzo in the 9th off Jansen 

[Beau Vine 54,296]

1 hour ago, spystud13 said:

Tony, you’re a good poster, but that reply is 100% why I didn’t bother. Any anti-Astro sentiment is regarded as some kind of attack. 

It's usually from some retard like Fudge or Nobis -- disappointing to see them rubbing off on Tony.

[Beau Vine 54,296]

57 minutes ago, spystud13 said:

I am fully aware Flagship ain't the most popular around here with the Hou faithful, but really anyone picking the Yanks would get it. 

 

Personally, if all 18 players in both starting lineups were 100% healthy, I would take the Yanks too. 

Of course none of this matters now because there are so many ILs next to both lineups. 

Also, fuck the Yankees.

[Helobious 9,463]

I come to this board strictly to taste the anti-Yankee tears. I drink them up. They fuel me.

[tx 3 putt 77,202]

It’ll be extra nice when the twins bounce the yankees in the first round 

[rvm96 1,643]

4 hours ago, Helobious said:

I come to this board strictly to taste the anti-Yankee tears. I drink them up. They fuel me.

Cool, Astros fans don't need any fuel with the easy cruise to the playoffs 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,209]

7 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

And he’s will soon be sponsored by H-E-B

Hope not, else he winds up on the IL within a week.

[cmontexas 3,272]

6 hours ago, rvm96 said:

Cool, Astros fans don't need any fuel with the easy cruise to the playoffs 

Cruising to the playoffs and resting everybody and playing zero meaningful games before the playoffs start usually works out well for teams

[Hank Chinaski 6,315]

12 hours ago, TheFlagship said:

I didn’t even mean any shade towards Houston. Obviously y’all have a badass team, esp when you factor in pitching. But a healthy Judge-Stanton-Sanchez-Voit-EE middle of the order hits 200  bombs if fully healthy. Don’t think any team in baseball compares to that.

One way to compare would be to use the rest-of-season projections for each lineup. I used ZIPS because it is pretty well-known (it tends to be reasonably conservative too). I like to use wRC+ to capture strictly hitting production:

Position: NYY Player (ROS wRC+ projection), HOU player (ROS wRC+ projection)

Catcher: Sanchez (121), Chirinos (105)

1B: Voit (123), Gurriel (96)

2B: Torres (116), Altuve (126)

3B: LeMahieu (99), Bregman (139)

SS: Gregorius (107), Correa (124)

LF: Stanton (133), Brantley (118)

CF: Hicks (113), Springer (127)

RF: Judge (139), Reddick (104)

DH: Encarnacion (121), Alvarez (110)

AVG: NYY - 119, HOU - 117

Given that these are projections and the overall average difference is 2 points, the two lineups are pretty much equal by this comparison. The projection for Alvarez may be a little light, but it seems reasonable to me, given that he's a rookie and we don't really know yet. This doesn't factor in base running, but I'll assume that any difference there is negligible. The Astros' glaring weakness (and my ongoing frustration) is at 1B.

In sum - they're both really good, and it is difficult to say one will outperform the other. 

Edited June 16, 2019 by Hank Chinaski