Buttigieg 2020

[bad_teammate 13185]

3 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Nah. Do your own homework. I literally just found it in 90 seconds. I'm done attempting any serious conversation with you. You are not a serious person, either emotionally or intellectually. You're a joke, man. We all know it. Some of us just humor you because you're entertaining (dance, bitch), but I'm out.

nice meltdown

[bad_teammate 13185]

Say goodbye to the gay vote, Pete!

 

[Biff Tannen 45661]

[bad_teammate 13185]

Pete: "Did you get the shot?"

Staffer: "Yup!"

Pete: "ROLL OUT!"

 

[David Dennison 18838]

Why did Chasten take his name?

[Bama Chick 28596]

I’m guessing because Pete was already the mayor and obviously has higher political ambitions so it wouldn’t make much sense career wise for Pete to change his name.

[fattyflattie 4639]

6 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

In that stupid scenario that you just made up that has no correlation to reality, yes, B is better. Obviously it's better, because Joe Sixpack isn't going to be ripped off $2k/year by the health insurance industry.

Or he’s paying a 2k tax to not be associated with the dregs who can’t afford basic shit like healthcare.  Better known as takers.  The can’t get rights, if you will.  

You will act like you don’t, but I know you understand people who give a shit about their station in life and try and continually improve it don’t want to be associated with poors. Take a look at where you, BT, live as an example.  You’ve done well, and have moved away from the dregs.  It’s what drives most capitalists.  It’s really not all that hard to understand.  

[bad_teammate 13185]

19 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Or he’s paying a 2k tax to not be associated with the dregs who can’t afford basic shit like healthcare.  Better known as takers.  The can’t get rights, if you will.  

You will act like you don’t, but I know you understand people who give a shit about their station in life and try and continually improve it don’t want to be associated with poors. Take a look at where you, BT, live as an example.  You’ve done well, and have moved away from the dregs.  It’s what drives most capitalists.  It’s really not all that hard to understand.  

The poors are still going to the clinics and hospitals where the poors live and the rich are still going to the clinics and hospitals where the rich live. It's not the insurance companies that are keeping you away from the poors, it's your choice of provider.

[Herpa Derpa 6122]

9 hours ago, BradInATX said:

Our entire country is built on competition.

That's a wonderful myth to believe.  Not true at any point in our history, but still a nice thought to keep you warm at night.

[fattyflattie 4639]

5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

The poors are still going to the clinics and hospitals where the poors live and the rich are still going to the clinics and hospitals where the rich live. It's not the insurance companies that are keeping you away from the poors, it's your choice of provider.

Eh, not really. Right now you can have a concierge for $1500/yr. (additional to your insurance, of course) and avoid all that shit. Pretty popular, to be honest. 

[bad_teammate 13185]

You don't get it, man, we out-competed the slaves and Native Americans.

[bad_teammate 13185]

Just now, fattyflattie said:

Eh, not really. Right now you can have a concierge for $1500/yr. (additional to your insurance, of course) and avoid all that shit. Pretty popular, to be honest. 

And you can still pay a concierge medical service with Medicare For All in place. Have you been reading any of this?

[fattyflattie 4639]

No, because I’m voting for whoever leaves more tax dollars in my pocket. That’s probably going to be the guy not peddling M4A.  

Fuck a bunch of waiting in longer lines for care that I already have, and double fuck paying more so the lines can clog up faster.  

[BradInATX 9208]

That's a wonderful myth to believe.  Not true at any point in our history, but still a nice thought to keep you warm at night.

Care to elaborate? This time with substance? Even just a little bit will do.

[BradInATX 9208]

No, because I’m voting for whoever leaves more tax dollars in my pocket. That’s probably going to be the guy not peddling M4A.  
Fuck a bunch of waiting in longer lines for care that I already have, and double fuck paying more so the lines can clog up faster.  

Right but the overwhelming majority of economists who have spent careers studying healthcare are totally wrong. It's going to print money for everyone.

[bad_teammate 13185]

Hey supposed liberals who are on the Pete train, how does it feel to have Republicans piling into the passenger car with you?

You sure this thing is headed where you think it is?

[ndawg 1242]

24 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

No, because I’m voting for whoever leaves more tax dollars in my pocket. That’s probably going to be the guy not peddling M4A.  

Fuck a bunch of waiting in longer lines for care that I already have, and double fuck paying more so the lines can clog up faster.  

You must make a small amount of money to be that concerned about having a little bit less of it.

[fattyflattie 4639]

5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Hey supposed liberals who are on the Pete train, how does it feel to have Republicans piling into the passenger car with you?

You sure this thing is headed where you think it is?

You seem threatened.  Finally realized Bernie town ain’t happening?

[fattyflattie 4639]

7 minutes ago, ndawg said:

You must make a small amount of money to be that concerned about having a little bit less of it.

Lol.  I’m not chi-doc but I do ok. I just want to retire sooner.  I’d rather have few extra years on the bay than pay for health care for people who didn’t gaf enough about their station to make sure they had it. 

We romanticize the Latin Americans for coming here to find better work for their families  The fact we don’t have people leaving in droves to get it tells me it’s not really an issue.  Itll be an issue when people make life choices over it, not just vote for the first person to give them free shit 

Edited June 29, 2019 by fattyflattie

[BradInATX 9208]

Lol.  I’m not chi-doc but I do ok. I just want to retire sooner.  I’d rather have few extra years on the bay than pay for health care for people who didn’t gaf enough about their station to make sure they had it. 
We romanticize the Latin Americans for coming here to find better work for their families  The fact we don’t have people leaving in droves to get it tells me it’s not really an issue.  Itll be an issue when people make life choices over it, not just vote for the first person to give them free shit 

People are definitely making life choices around the cost of healthcare. Lots of people. Often they die as a result.

[fattyflattie 4639]

2 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Lol.  I’m not chi-doc but I do ok. I just want to retire sooner.  I’d rather have few extra years on the bay than pay for health care for people who didn’t gaf enough about their station to make sure they had it. 
We romanticize the Latin Americans for coming here to find better work for their families  The fact we don’t have people leaving in droves to get it tells me it’s not really an issue.  Itll be an issue when people make life choices over it, not just vote for the first person to give them free shit 

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People are definitely making life choices around the cost of healthcare. Lots of people. Often they die as a result.

Dollars to donuts they died with an IPhone and a Facebook profile. 

Edited June 29, 2019 by fattyflattie

[BradInATX 9208]

Dollars to donuts they died with an IPhone and a Facebook profile. 

While I appreciate the general concept that it's imperfect that those of us who are financially responsible have to support those who are not, the whole "welfare queens buying groceries with food stamps and loading them into their Escalade" is way overblown. Plenty of people were born into crappy situations and no amount of good decisions will dig them out.

 

I also don't think poor life and financial choices should be a death sentence. I'm fine with holding people responsible for their financial irresponsibility via the lifestyle they have to live. I don't want them to die.

 

[fattyflattie 4639]

I wasn’t really going there so much as pointing out our priorities as a society are shit. 

I held some pretty low level shitty jobs thru high school. Every single one of them offered health insurance.  So?

[BradInATX 9208]

I wasn’t really going there so much as pointing out our priorities as a society are shit. 
I held some pretty low level shitty jobs thru high school. Every single one of them offered health insurance.  So?

Damn. I made $9/hour working at a video game store in high school. No benefits. I was doing it all wrong.

[fattyflattie 4639]

6 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

I also don't think poor life and financial choices should be a death sentence.

Why should one get a quite literal  free pass because of poor life and financial decisions?

 I didn’t make that call, they did.  Im certain there are charities that would be interested in helping pick up where Darwin failed. 

[BradInATX 9208]

Why should one get a quite literal  free pass because of poor life and financial decisions?

 I didn’t make that call, they did.  Im certain there are charities that would be interested in helping pick up where Darwin failed. 

If that were the case, poor people wouldn't die on a daily basis because of insufficient health care. The "charities will pick up the slack" is an absolute pipe dream. And I say this as someone who has quite a lot of little l libertarian stances.

 

[henrygandorf 29189]

18 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

I also don't think poor life and financial choices should be a death sentence. I'm fine with holding people responsible for their financial irresponsibility via the lifestyle they have to live. I don't want them to die.

we're talking about dallas people, right?

[Herpa Derpa 6122]

59 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

1 hour ago, Herpa Derpa said:

That's a wonderful myth to believe.  Not true at any point in our history, but still a nice thought to keep you warm at night.

Care to elaborate? This time with substance? Even just a little bit will do.

Nah. Do your own homework. I literally just found it in 90 seconds. I'm done attempting any serious conversation with you. You are not a serious person, either emotionally or intellectually. You're a joke, man. We all know it. Some of us just humor you because you're entertaining (dance, bitch), but I'm out.

[fattyflattie 4639]

So, I’ll ask you a favor. Educate me a bit.  Are the not a pot to piss in type poors not already given Medicaid/Medicare?    The fact that loads of late 20’s types who spent 150k on college and need that midtown apt and a 3 series are skipping (rather expensive) health care  isn’t a concern to me.  If they want to take that risk, then I say go for it.   

The truly poor should be taken care of to an extent, but opting out because it’s too expensive to maintain with your lifestyle is bullshit. 

I still don’t see why it needs to be government mandated.  As stated up thread (by you I think) why can’t those who want the cheapest of the cheap go with Uncle Sam and those of us who are doing fine stay course?   Oh yeah, because the best doctors and facilities are going to stay with the private for profits     Y’all can have Dr Nick and the govt ward.  

I have a white trash cousin who’s baby daddy makes well over 100k (think chemical plant hand) but being not married they paid jack shit for when having their kids.  That’s the shit we need to shut down.  

[BradInATX 9208]

Nah. Do your own homework. I literally just found it in 90 seconds. I'm done attempting any serious conversation with you. You are not a serious person, either emotionally or intellectually. You're a joke, man. We all know it. Some of us just humor you because you're entertaining (dance, bitch), but I'm out.

Got em'!

[BradInATX 9208]

we're talking about dallas people, right?

Let's go big picture and call it the entire metroplex, plus Oklahoma.

[BradInATX 9208]

So, I’ll ask you a favor. Educate me a bit.  Are the not a pot to piss in type poors not already given Medicaid/Medicare?    The fact that loads of late 20’s types who spent 150k on college and need that midtown apt and a 3 series are skipping (rather expensive) health care  isn’t a concern to me.  If they want to take that risk, then I say go for it.   
The truly poor should be taken care of to an extent, but opting out because it’s too expensive to maintain with your lifestyle is bullshit. 
I still don’t see why it needs to be government mandated.  As stated up thread (by you I think) why can’t those who want the cheapest of the cheap go with Uncle Sam and those of us who are doing fine stay course?   Oh yeah, because the best doctors and facilities are going to stay with the private for profits     Y’all can have Dr Nick and the govt ward.  
I have a white trash cousin who’s baby daddy makes well over 100k (think chemical plant hand) but being not married they paid jack shit for when having their kids.  That’s the shit we need to shut down.  

Yeah. In the context of your post, I'm with you 100%. Maybe I misunderstood your stance. For me, the area of concern are those making too much for Medicare, but not enough for good private insurance. Those are the people that skip preventative care because of cost, and die because of it. And that group extends somewhat into middle class, at least by the societal definition (which is largely bullshit).

[fattyflattie 4639]

3 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

8 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

So, I’ll ask you a favor. Educate me a bit.  Are the not a pot to piss in type poors not already given Medicaid/Medicare?    The fact that loads of late 20’s types who spent 150k on college and need that midtown apt and a 3 series are skipping (rather expensive) health care  isn’t a concern to me.  If they want to take that risk, then I say go for it.   
The truly poor should be taken care of to an extent, but opting out because it’s too expensive to maintain with your lifestyle is bullshit. 
I still don’t see why it needs to be government mandated.  As stated up thread (by you I think) why can’t those who want the cheapest of the cheap go with Uncle Sam and those of us who are doing fine stay course?   Oh yeah, because the best doctors and facilities are going to stay with the private for profits     Y’all can have Dr Nick and the govt ward.  
I have a white trash cousin who’s baby daddy makes well over 100k (think chemical plant hand) but being not married they paid jack shit for when having their kids.  That’s the shit we need to shut down.  

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Yeah. In the context of your post, I'm with you 100%. Maybe I misunderstood your stance. For me, the area of concern are those making too much for Medicare, but not enough for good private insurance. Those are the people that skip preventative care because of cost, and die because of it. And that group extends somewhat into middle class, at least by the societal definition (which is largely bullshit).

Yeah I think we are in agreement, for the most part. That group of people need looking out too, but at what cost?  

If they want govt healthcare, as they have none they can afford, I have no qualms with it.  But I don’t.  And considering I’ve been able to find and maintain my own (ie: this isn’t an issue for me) why should I lose what I have?  That’s the disconnect between the the people who can afford it, and those who can’t.   I’m being asked to pay more in taxes to receive an inferior service. No thanks  

 

[tucker 238]

25 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

So, I’ll ask you a favor. Educate me a bit.  Are the not a pot to piss in type poors not already given Medicaid/Medicare?    The fact that loads of late 20’s types who spent 150k on college and need that midtown apt and a 3 series are skipping (rather expensive) health care  isn’t a concern to me.  If they want to take that risk, then I say go for it.   

The truly poor should be taken care of to an extent, but opting out because it’s too expensive to maintain with your lifestyle is bullshit. 

I still don’t see why it needs to be government mandated.  As stated up thread (by you I think) why can’t those who want the cheapest of the cheap go with Uncle Sam and those of us who are doing fine stay course?   Oh yeah, because the best doctors and facilities are going to stay with the private for profits     Y’all can have Dr Nick and the govt ward.  

I have a white trash cousin who’s baby daddy makes well over 100k (think chemical plant hand) but being not married they paid jack shit for when having their kids.  That’s the shit we need to shut down.  

She wrote a whole book on this issue 

 

 

[tucker 238]

43 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

If that were the case, poor people wouldn't die on a daily basis because of insufficient health care. The "charities will pick up the slack" is an absolute pipe dream. And I say this as someone who has quite a lot of little l libertarian stances.

 

Anyone with common sense knows you mean that you are a closeted Republican that pulls the D lever because you can’t stomach kids in cages.  In this environment it is sadly admirable, but let’s not pretend you wouldnt trade lower taxes for degrading someone’s rights. 

[BradInATX 9208]

11 minutes ago, tucker said:

Anyone with common sense knows you mean that you are a closeted Republican that pulls the D lever because you can’t stomach kids in cages.  In this environment it is sadly admirable, but let’s not pretend you wouldnt trade lower taxes for degrading someone’s rights. 

Someone has some views that aren't far left: "You are a literal Republican"

Candidate that literally was a registered Republican: "My socialist savior!"

GTFO. You've got nothing.

Edited June 29, 2019 by BradInATX

[tucker 238]

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

Someone has some views that aren't far left: "You are a literal Republican"

Candidate that literally was a registered Republican: "My socialist savior!"

GTFO. You've got nothing.

Omg, Lizzy admits she changed party when she became political!

you have a posting history of pushing for any D candidate to R policies and complaining that they don’t have more centrist policies.  

I am sorry you have minorities moving into your round rock suburb neighborhood. 

[BradInATX 9208]

6 minutes ago, tucker said:

Omg, Lizzy admits she changed party when she became political!

you have a posting history of pushing for any D candidate to R policies and complaining that they don’t have more centrist policies.  

I am sorry you have minorities moving into your round rock suburb neighborhood. 

LOL. I have no idea who you are, so I went through a few pages of your posting history.

- Your parents are rich and own a bunch of real estate

- You are shooting to have $20 million for retirement in order to maintain your current lifestyle

- You have negative feelings towards the homeless

- You defend your candidate for defending corporations against asbestos victims

- You live in Hyde Park

- 50% of your posts are stock market day trading and speculating

You are far, far more Republican than me. Sit your silver spoon NIMBY ass down and stop talking to me. I couldn't be less interested in you or anything you have to say.

Edited June 29, 2019 by BradInATX

[tucker 238]

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

LOL. I have no idea who you are, so I went through a few pages of your posting history.

- Your parents are rich and own a bunch of real estate

- You are shooting to have $20 million for retirement

- You have negative feelings towards the homeless

- You defend your candidate for defending corporations against asbestos victims

- You live in Hyde Park

- 50% of your posts are stock market day trading and in the IPO thread.

 

You are far, far more Republican than me. Sit your silver spoon ass down and stop talking to me.

Omg, I can have money and be liberal!! Why does money = Republican? 

Re: asbestos was a gross misrepresentation of what occurred 

yes, I have one of my homes in Hyde park. But live in multiple cities

[BradInATX 9208]

 

4 minutes ago, tucker said:

Omg, I can have money and be liberal!! Why does money = Republican? 

Re: asbestos was a gross misrepresentation of what occurred 

yes, I have one of my homes in Hyde park. But live in multiple cities

There it is. 

[tucker 238]

Just now, BradInATX said:

 

There it is. 

Why are fake D ashamed of people making money. Look at the lizzy thread, and I maxed out my donations to her. 

[BradInATX 9208]

6 minutes ago, tucker said:

Why are fake D ashamed of people making money. Look at the lizzy thread, and I maxed out my donations to her. 

Nobody is ashamed of people making money. But born-rich, Hyde Park NIMBY Ann Kitchen proteges who openly hold disdain for the homeless and the poor and have no shame about flaunting their privilege are an embarrassing, predictable, and boring stereotype.

BTW, I've never claimed to be a Democrat.

Edited June 29, 2019 by BradInATX

[tucker 238]

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

Nobody is ashamed of people making money. But born-rich, Hyde Park NIMBY Ann Kitchen proteges who openly hold disdain for the homeless and the poor and have no shame about flaunting their privilege are an embarrassing, predictable, and boring stereotype.

Assumes I was born rich. I paid for my college and lived on food stamps which is why I am so pro-gov support. I wouldn’t be where I am without gov assistance. 

Edited June 29, 2019 by tucker

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[bad_teammate 13185]

Ah, a worthy imprimatur!

Comes out of retirement to defend private health insurance companies.

Edited June 29, 2019 by bad_teammate

[Neonmoon 38129]

I believe he was defending supplemental insurance 

[bad_teammate 13185]

Is it under attack?

[Hank Kingsley 20903]

 

[Hank Kingsley 20903]

 

[TexEx15 17509]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

Is that good?  That seems good.