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Hank Kingsley
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and English.   

henrygandorf
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look dude, i understand that the political forum is "the wild west", but in a sea of bad takes and unnecessary obnoxiousness for the sake of theater likely stemming from some sort of irrational fear,

Chuckie Finster
Chuckie Finster

Now that it’s over... Pete wasn’t ready to be President, but a giant fuck you to the Bernie crew for how personal and intense the attacks got against him.  

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Was this posted?  I'm not gonna go back 40 pages or more.

I will say I'm not a big Pete supporter but I think this clip says some things about his character.  He is content with being a team player, not stealing the spotlight, trying hard not to fuck up, and he's paying attention to what's going on around him.  I firmly believe we can tell a lot about a person by observing them in a "team" setting like this:

 

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25 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

This guy.

 

 

wow, twice in three posts, it must be really bad.  or maybe it's the 11 millionth example of twitter and context speeding past each other on the freeway.

 

skip to 47:40 if you want the entire quote, and summary of the exact same health care platform he's been pitching for a year.

funny how "the principle at stake is not making sure the government is delivering your health insurance, the principle at stake is making sure that you have health insurance, without cost ever being a barrier, and that there's no such thing as an uninsured american" never made it onto anyone's feed.  sigh.

 

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On this issue, every little hurdle, no matter how well-intentioned, will literally kill people. Every means test will kill people. Every additional bit of paperwork will kill people. Every required pre-authorization phone call will kill people. Every shred of difficulty finding out which doctors are in or out of network will kill people.

Americans will die, and for what?

"Coverage" is not enough. "Coverage" means basically nothing.

Pete's plan still allows for in-network and out-of-network distinctions. That is going to kill people. For what?

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Yeah, he pointed out the massive real estate error made by the postal service and is being chastised for pointing out shit like maths?  Why is that bad again?  

 

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12 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Yeah, he pointed out the massive real estate error made by the postal service and is being chastised for pointing out shit like maths?  Why is that bad again?  

 

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In 2010, the agency hired private consultants who advised it to cut back operation days, increase mail delivery times, automate postal services and replace unionized labor with non-unionized labor.

"real estate error" lol

 

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yeah, "automate postal services."  Your local massive 10,000 square foot post office is a waste of real estate.  They're paying $25k/month so you can come in and use the 10 square feet that is the label machine and drop box.  You can just stick those around town like ATMs or RedBox's and be just fine.  Automatic services means cutting back on real estate which means cheaper costs. It's called Maths.  

Now, the union/non-union thing for federal employees, yeah---that's a third rail topic for Democrats.  He's in trouble on that item.  

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Ah, so the existence of post offices themselves is the "real estate error", cool. That's not at all what the phrase implies, but right-wingers and centrists (right-wingers who aren't bigots) are good at using misleading language and euphemisms to cover their actual intentions, which is the destruction of public services and jobs.

Very cool.

PETE! PETE! PETE! PETE! PETE!

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So Pete is a right-winger, now?   And yes, we don't need that many post offices, many post offices don't need to be that large, and many post offices are in locations that are too expensive.  So those are largely functions of real estate.  

Not sure where this "destruction of public service jobs" thing comes from.  The federal government, under the Executive Branch, employs roughly the same number of people today as it did 50+ years ago.  Now overall people getting a federal paycheck is down because we have far fewer people in the military than we did at the height of the Cold War/Selective Service.  But this exhausting narrative that evil corporations and Republicans are slashing government jobs is bullshit.  It's about the same number as it's always been.  Now, obviously the percentage of total population is down as our nation grows, but as Pete points out---that may be a function of redundancy or jobs made obsolete by technology as opposed to some vast right-wing/McKinsey conspiracy to cut jobs just to cut jobs.  

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Watching the Bobs work in Office Space and nodding sagely when they say, "We just fixed the glitch, it'll work itself out naturally."

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So Pete is a right-winger, now? 

An advocate for the destruction of public institutions certainly qualifies one as a "right-winger" in my mind, absolutely.

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And yes, we don't need that many post offices, many post offices don't need to be that large, and many post offices are in locations that are too expensive.  So those are largely functions of real estate.  

The idea that our public services and institutions should be run like private businesses and ruthlessly slashed to maximize short-term revenue is kind of the hallmark of right-wing thinking.

Post offices are vital. We should expand the services offered to include banking.

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For a lot of folks, there's nothing wrong with that. 

You're right. There are a lot of centrists.

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The GOP continuing to move far right doesn't demand an equal and opposite reaction on the left.  

Enjoy your centrist candidate. I hope he makes you happy.

 

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6 minutes ago, sasquatch69 said:

For a lot of folks, there's nothing wrong with that.  The GOP continuing to move far right doesn't demand an equal and opposite reaction on the left.  

Maybe not, but "I trust you to figure out how to ration your own insulin" sure as fuck does.

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Lots of handwringing and investment of emotions for a guy who will not matter when the rubber meets road and it’s Biden/Kamala vs Trump_Pence_v2

Save the vitriol for 2024 when Pete, after the MacArthurs fellowship funded autobiography phase, he re-emerges from a sabbatical from a cave where he was lost in Jesuit prayer and meditation and evolves into being so super gay that he is actually into chicks now and he comes down from the mountain with a transcendent PPT etched into two MST Surface Pros (because he’s too centrist to own a Mac Book).

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