Buttigieg 2020

[Bama Chick 28,596]

There really is nothing worse than old, rich, white people with liberal guilt who run around telling everyone else they're not liberal enough, is there?

Nazis exist, Brad.

[bad_teammate 13,496]

lol this fuckin' guy

 

[washparkhorn 9,973]

It would be refreshing if he just came out and said,

"Hey guys, I was just kidding when I said I care about you. I don't. Ya see, Billionaires support me. My old job put me up as an empty suit so I could make sure those billionaires become godzillionaires! Isn't that great?  Yarrrgh!  I have no fucking clue what I am doing. I am a meat puppet.  Thanks, Thanks - I love the BUUUU, BUUUUS - my last name is difficult to say, so "BUUUU" is GREAT!  Yarrrgh! See ya!"

[BradInATX 9,208]

3 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

 

Nazis exist, Brad.

 

I think we're supposed to call them centrists now

Edited December 18, 2019 by BradInATX

[bad_teammate 13,496]

It would be interesting to see some kind of statistical breakdown of how often posters spend punching/whining right vs. punching/whining left.

[406W30th 1,111]

I emailed ActBlue asking for my donation to Pete to be reimbursed and sent to Liz or Bernie. I just wanted to register my disgust with Pete w/ the fundraising platform and they told me to reach out to Pete's campaign. So I did.

[bad_teammate 13,496]

I will still wear my BOOT-EDGE-EDGE t-shirt to do yardwork. Keep the neighbors guessing.

[bad_teammate 13,496]

lol

Normal humans.

 

[Hank Scorpio 17,924]

 

 

[F250 29,199]

On 12/16/2019 at 3:14 PM, bad_teammate said:

My posting reserves are bottomless, inexhaustible.

I will never log off. I will never stop posting.

 Well, too much internet and...

[bad_teammate 13,496]

Pete is a mess.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

This story is ridiculous, incredible, and irrelevant but so on brand for Pete. 

 

[bad_teammate 13,496]

lol what a god damned dork

Jane Lynch playing defense for Pete.

[TexEx15 17,937]

 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

Warren saying everyone should play by a set a rules that she herself doesn’t follow? 
 

That’s the most American trait you can have 

[Hank Scorpio 17,924]

11 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Warren saying everyone should play by a set a rules that she herself doesn’t follow? 
 

That’s the most American trait you can have 

She’s the most American candidate in the race. A real Native American.  

[workswithseed 2,204]

35 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

She’s the most American candidate in the race. A real Native American.  

She has a casino or something?

[henrygandorf 29,225]

57 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Warren saying everyone should play by a set a rules that she herself doesn’t follow?

the problem is that they're not her rules.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

12 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

 

Who knew so many wanted to die on wine cave hill?  Yes, the danger was Warren calling out the wine cave and not Pete spending his precious campaign time in a wine cave while not considering the bad optics of that.  Warren is the the one who should be concerned here, not Pete.  (Signed TV pundit hack and Pete Buttigieg mentor David Axelrod.)

 

Edited December 22, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[TexEx15 17,937]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Who knew so many wanted to die on wine cave hill?  Yes, the danger was Warren calling out the wine cave and not Pete spending his precious campaign time in a wine cave while not considering the bad optics of that.  Warren is the the one who should be concerned here, not Pete.  Signed TV pundit hack and Pete Buttigieg mentor David Axelrod. 

Ouch.  Sounds like someone hit a nerve.  Maybe Warren should have been smarter instead of playing the purity test game.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

calling out the corruption in your own party is a treacherous purity test.

[TexEx15 17,937]

Ah yes the corruption of raising money for your campaign.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

35 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Ah yes the corruption of raising money for your campaign.

Pete wasn’t always the way he is now.

Purity tests indeed.

 

Edited December 22, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[mchookem 16,765]

it's not corruption, it's reality. it's also kind of shitty, but it's how the game is played. she's not wrong about it being unfortunate, but i don't hold it against any of them - they need money and a lot of it, all of them. 

Pete did a good job with his homework, because i personally did not realize Warren had taken the same kind of money previously and that her current stance was relatively new. 

[Tuco 5,093]

Something tells me it takes more money to run for President than Indiana State Treasurer. And, a lot happens in 9 years. Did you give a shit how Obama was raising cash in 2012? A foolish Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

51 minutes ago, mchookem said:

it's not corruption, it's reality. it's also kind of shitty, but it's how the game is played. she's not wrong about it being unfortunate, but i don't hold it against any of them - they need money and a lot of it, all of them. 

Pete did a good job with his homework, because i personally did not realize Warren had taken the same kind of money previously and that her current stance was relatively new. 

The money isn’t the issue here.  Warren and Bernie are raising more money than the other candidates.  They are leading by example and demonstrating democracy can work better if we actually TRY.  Both Bernie and Warren have done private fundraisers in the past for their down ballot campaigns but they’ve decided to buck the corrupt system for their presidential campaigns because it MATTERS.  They know first hand the game is corrupt and want to change it for the better.  The best way to do it is demonstrate that it can be done with the way they run their presidential campaigns. 

The wine cave stuff is about the TIME and INFLUENCE plutocrats have with OUR representatives.  The money buys the candidate’s time which is their most valuable resource and who knows what kind of influence that buys on public policy when these meetings are private.  It is a form of soft corruption. 

Edited December 22, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[henrygandorf 29,225]

jesus hugo, this isn’t about corruption, it’s about double standards.  twitter is rotting your brain. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

It is corruption.  You just don’t see it that way because it’s become so normalized and accepted as “how the game is played.”

[henrygandorf 29,225]

do you think liz had corrupt intent until sometime in 2018?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

do you think liz had corrupt intent until sometime in 2018?

No and I think most people going into public service don’t go into it with corrupt intent, including Pete.  However, far too often the corrupting influences trade political expediency for corrupt practices like selling ambassadorships to the highest bidders and putting their thumb on the scale of policy that is antithetical to the public good.  Things such a opposing net neutrality, denying climate change, cutting education spending, and harmful deregulation under the guise of free market capitalism come to mind.  It’s that underlying corrupting influence that prevents us from having a government truly for the people.  You can either defend that system or oppose it. This isn’t a difficult purity test. 

The big money influence all too easily compromises our lawmakers and therefore our laws to satisfy their interests while ignoring the issues of everyone else.  That is the corruption that needs correction. 

It’s more about who isn’t in the wine cave than who is. 

[henrygandorf 29,225]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

No

me neither.  do you think pete has a corrupt intent in 2019?

[Hank Scorpio 17,924]

 

 

[Js1 87,175]

 

[bernorange 8,385]

7 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

... Both Bernie and Warren have done private fundraisers in the past ... but they’ve decided to buck the corrupt system for their presidential campaigns because it MATTERS.  ...

lol.  Warren did the fundraising that she had to do to get past the very significant barrier to entry in US national politics.  She is well established on the national stage at this point.  She built a lot of name recognition, influence and networks on the back of her Senatorial career (built upon the fundraising that she now decries).  The cries of purity from puppet strings would have more gravitas if they weren't coming from a deeply entrenched cog in the machine.  The hypocrisy is glaring to folks who aren't wearing blinders.

[henrygandorf 29,225]

10 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

me neither.  do you think pete has a corrupt intent in 2019?

your silence confirms what i already suspected.

[Bama Chick 28,596]

I don’t know if he has corrupt intent - whatever the fuck that is - but he’s got some shitty people in his corner.

[washparkhorn 9,973]

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I don’t know if he has corrupt intent - whatever the fuck that is -

but he’s got some shitty people in his corner.

Agree.

Say what you want about Buttigieg the person, I don't want the shitty people around him anywhere near any levers of power. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

14 hours ago, bernorange said:

lol.  Warren did the fundraising that she had to do to get past the very significant barrier to entry in US national politics.  She is well established on the national stage at this point.  She built a lot of name recognition, influence and networks on the back of her Senatorial career (built upon the fundraising that she now decries).  The cries of purity from puppet strings would have more gravitas if they weren't coming from a deeply entrenched cog in the machine.  The hypocrisy is glaring to folks who aren't wearing blinders.

 

[elfenix 34,746]

Big fundraisers with plutocrats are corrupt. Full stop.

[TexEx15 17,937]

 

[wildcat09 29,578]

3 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

One of the really good signs for our future is how all of the people who used to work with the likely nominee in the White House, who by pretty much all accounts really like him as a person, don't want him to be the nominee. Very cool stuff.

[BradInATX 9,208]

I'm just grateful to the OP of this thread for creating yet another place for Hugo to turn into his personal pro-Elizabeth Warren thread.

[bad_teammate 13,496]

Warren and Pete are evolving.

Warren is better than she was.

Pete is worse.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Bernie has evolved too.  He used to be way more socialist than he is now.  Not sure if for better or worse but it makes him a more viable candidate.

[BradInATX 9,208]

Remember when Warren was a Republican corporate lawyer?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Exactly, and Bernie was in the Liberty Union Party.  

[F250 29,199]

On 12/22/2019 at 10:14 AM, henrygandorf said:

jesus hugo, this isn’t about corruption, it’s about double standards.  twitter is rotting your brain. 

Barry Switzer once called Jackie Sherrill a cheating son of a bitch. Was he wrong?

[henrygandorf 29,225]

2 hours ago, F250 said:

Barry Switzer once called Jackie Sherrill a cheating son of a bitch. Was he wrong?

so you're saying liz and pete are both corrupt?  i was told this was about corruption.

[Hank Scorpio 17,924]

 

 

 

 

[BradInATX 9,208]

4 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

so you're saying liz and pete are both corrupt?  i was told this was about corruption.

You've been spending too much time watching MSNBC and their anti-Warren agenda.