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  On 7/18/2020 at 1:38 AM, HtownHorn said:

What is wrong with Burris, Ike, and Regis? Though it appears Burris is heading towards eating himself into a 2-3 year development track. What is the speculation why Jimbo seems infatuated with OOS recruiting?

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Yeah, I mean even if Malone goes with baseball, you take him. He's great.

We are in on Burris and Regis, but I get the feeling they are guys we may just be keeping warm. I like both a lot, although I worry a little bit about Burris being ou scraps and the injury he had.

As far as national recruiting, I think it's a number of things. It's all Jimbo knows. He and the staff may be better connected elsewhere (Elijah Robinson in the NE, for example). They are confident in the evals (we'll see how those all play out). I also wonder if they don't think some Texas kids are maxxed out already, or there is no tread left on the tires. Ultimately, though, he's like any other coach in that he wants to find guys he thinks will help him win. He must think recruiting nationally does that.

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  On 7/18/2020 at 1:34 AM, jordanaggie said:

Yeah, i mean if that is how he still looks, he's not an OT, which is what we need. I was pretty pissed when yall picked him up--I thought he had first round potential. I think if he got into (and actually followed) a good S&C program, he could get back to that level. Maybe wishful thinking, though.

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His recruiting shenanigans told me his head wasn’t in football. He’s a piece of shit. So glad he’s not still wasting a scholarship here. People like him destroy programs. 

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  On 7/18/2020 at 2:16 AM, jordanaggie said:

What happened with him once he got on campus?

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Seems that while coaches were coaching and players were working hard, he wasn’t. Things were different once the courtship was over and nobody was paying him special attention. He got distracted and started talking to people who convinced him he shouldn’t stay. And Texas certainly hasn’t been known for coddling players the last few years. 

His heart was never at Texas. 

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  On 7/18/2020 at 1:55 AM, jordanaggie said:

Yeah, I mean even if Malone goes with baseball, you take him. He's great.

We are in on Burris and Regis, but I get the feeling they are guys we may just be keeping warm. I like both a lot, although I worry a little bit about Burris being ou scraps and the injury he had.

As far as national recruiting, I think it's a number of things. It's all Jimbo knows. He and the staff may be better connected elsewhere (Elijah Robinson in the NE, for example). They are confident in the evals (we'll see how those all play out). I also wonder if they don't think some Texas kids are maxxed out already, or there is no tread left on the tires. Ultimately, though, he's like any other coach in that he wants to find guys he thinks will help him win. He must think recruiting nationally does that.

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Get the fuck out of here with this reasonable shit you fucking 2% aggy fuck. Burris isn’t going to OU because he knows the SECSEC is where the big boys play. And Jimbo recruits nationally because he can snap his fingers and have any five star he wants in the country, but he likes to take the hidden gems instead to give himself a challenge, that’s why he’s a champion in the prime of his career. 

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  On 7/18/2020 at 2:20 AM, Tex Pete said:

Seems that while coaches were coaching and players were working hard, he wasn’t. Things were different once the courtship was over and nobody was paying him special attention. He got distracted and started talking to people who convinced him he shouldn’t stay. And Texas certainly hasn’t been known for coddling players the last few years. 

His heart was never at Texas. 

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It sounds like his heart is going to end up working at McDonald's. Makes you wonder how he lost all that weight. You'd think something must have changed.

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  On 7/18/2020 at 2:25 AM, Hank Scorpio said:

Get the fuck out of here with this reasonable shit you fucking 2% aggy fuck. Burris isn’t going to OU because he knows the SECSEC is where the big boys play. And Jimbo recruits nationally because he can snap his fingers and have any five star he wants in the country, but he likes to take the hidden gems instead to give himself a challenge, that’s why he’s a champion in the prime of his career. 

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Lol. Come on, stop lying. He doesn't get those five stars without Karen's help.

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  On 7/18/2020 at 1:47 AM, texasstrong12 said:

I'm betting Malone doesn't make it to campus. This type raw power is something you don't find at players his age.

Some team will draft him high based on the trackman data. 

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Have you checked out desmond watson? If he got down to the low 300lb range, he would be incredible. Great hands and feet.

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  On 7/17/2020 at 10:53 PM, texifornia said:
Ok so [mention=5426]ALC[/mention], [mention=5422]DrPepper[/mention], and [mention=5424]jordanaggie[/mention], is Victory Vaka:
a) a tub of lard that no Pac12 school wanted
Or
b) a West Coast recruiting coup?
Discuss

Well when he committed he was a 4 star so obviously he was a coup. Now he’s a 3 star so....


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It’s been mentioned before, Jimbo recruits nationally because neither he or his coaches have strong Texas ties. It’s really that simple. They’re going to continue to get a handful of redass legacies and small town folk and pepper it in with dudes from NE, and leftovers from SE.

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  On 7/18/2020 at 1:47 AM, texasstrong12 said:

I'm betting Malone doesn't make it to campus. This type raw power is something you don't find at players his age.

Some team will draft him high based on the trackman data. 

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He doesn't have a baseball offer because HS guys with raw power like that don't play college baseball;  they get drafted early in the 1st round.

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  On 7/18/2020 at 6:03 PM, Beau Vine said:

He doesn't have a baseball offer because HS guys with raw power like that don't play college baseball;  they get drafted early in the 1st round.

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I still have questions about Malone's long-term fit in baseball because of his size but that tweet was from January. Malone has plenty of schools that want him in baseball now. 

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I couldn’t read too far, but I did see that billy was in middle school in the mid 80s so he’s getting close to 50 now and doing this for a living and behaving such as he does. 
then he uses a fucking stir fry as an example of how great his cooking has become over the past few months. 
narcissism on the order of ctj. 

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I love Looch updates when he talks about who Aggy will sign. If we sign these guys we’re not going to sign, we would have an elite class. So it’s these elite guys or these other lower rated guys we are more likely to sign. But you know, pretty much the same. We’re going to be awesome. 

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  On 7/19/2020 at 2:46 PM, Neonmoon said:

I love Looch updates when he talks about who Aggy will sign. If we sign these guys we’re not going to sign, we would have an elite class. So it’s these elite guys or these other lower rated guys we are more likely to sign. But you know, pretty much the same. We’re going to be awesome. 

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Hi bailout Billy. Welcome. 

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  On 7/18/2020 at 9:50 AM, Enchubben said:

It’s been mentioned before, Jimbo recruits nationally because neither he or his coaches have strong Texas ties. It’s really that simple. They’re going to continue to get a handful of redass legacies and small town folk and pepper it in with dudes from NE, and leftovers from SE.

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The decades long ties may not be there, but I wouldn't say Jimbo totally struck out in state. Leal, Jaylon Jones, Bobby Brown, Baylor Cupp, etc. Certainly missed out on guys we wanted, too, but it hasn't been that bad.

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  On 7/19/2020 at 2:46 PM, Neonmoon said:

I love Looch updates when he talks about who Aggy will sign. If we sign these guys we’re not going to sign, we would have an elite class. So it’s these elite guys or these other lower rated guys we are more likely to sign. But you know, pretty much the same. We’re going to be awesome. 

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Lol. I was never part of texags for this very reason.

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  On 7/19/2020 at 2:21 AM, Lobwedgephil said:

It's going to be the "haves and haves-not" more so than it's ever been. A&M can be a "have". That's when everyone's over their feelings on both sides. The political climate we've got right now, not only in the country, but everywhere, it bleeds down into everything. But this is a time where if you don't play, A&M could easily be one of the "haves" and it's going to be a very short list. It's going to be like the Alabamas, Texas, Ohio State. There are going to be some teams that you think are powerhouses that can't touch what A&M would be able to do.

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  On 7/20/2020 at 3:55 PM, golfclap said:

How does one OutLooch the Looch himself? Like this ...  Pooch = Looch? 

 

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We're pretty pumped about Fatheree.  He's a little more of a project than some top-shelf guys, as he needs some time to get away from a basketball body and into a OT body, but a redshirt year should help.  He's got the tools to be very good, IMO.

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  On 7/20/2020 at 4:01 PM, jordanaggie said:

We're pretty pumped about Fatheree.  He's a little more of a project than some top-shelf guys, as he needs some time to get away from a basketball body and into a OT body, but a redshirt year should help.  He's got the tools to be very good, IMO.

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..or he's just one small growth spurt into becoming a PF

 

 

 

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  On 7/20/2020 at 4:01 PM, jordanaggie said:

We're pretty pumped about Fatheree.  He's a little more of a project than some top-shelf guys, as he needs some time to get away from a basketball body and into a OT body, but a redshirt year should help.  He's got the tools to be very good, IMO.

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I get that, but even if you thought Fatheree was on par with Latham and Brockermeyer - they have 2 of them. Bama also has Ferguson at OG - who at 47 in the country is likely under-ranked. Their worst OL is James. He's their 4th guy rn, and if they take 5 or even 6, he will remain their worst OL. I expect William Parker to end up in their class, but I also expect him to climb in the rankings, whether he's ranked that way or not he's certainly a badass. This Alabama OL class is better than any of their previous classes and they've signed some INSANE OL classes. To think that the current aggy crop is on the same level is absurd. It's more than ok to be super excited about the aggy OL class but not heap the expectation on it that it will produce 4-5 first round NFL picks, which is likely what Bama will do.

That's the folly. This aggy class is FAR better than last year's class and I think you guys should be amped about that. More importantly about Wykoff and Zuhn not being cubes and the direction that they are taking. That should be more than enough to be excited about - if you go to compare it to this historic Bama class, well...    that's delusional. 

 

 

FWIW, I don't get it with Fatheree at all. I've seen him in person a couple of times and I just don't see it. He reaches, grabs, and lunges out of balance - but all that aside, he just doesn't seem like a guy that likes the sport at all. Fatheree just kind of exists. And yeah, I understand the boredom angle because he's bigger, stronger, and quicker than any DL he plays against so he doesn't have to put any effort into winning his matchup and sure that would get tedious if you don't love the sport. Which is exactly what I see. He just exists. On the other side of the coin you have Latham. Latham could beat even the competition he faces at IMG and on their schedule the same way - easily and without much effort but he delights in the humbling and subjugation.  It's the biggest reason why I think he's the best OT in the country and will push Tommy to RT. Not only does Latham have an incredible frame and ridiculous athleticism, he doesn't just stop at good enough. Subjugation. 

 

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and to further illustrate what we are talking about here - it's an INSANE class... 

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This begs the question – is Alabama on the verge of signing one of the best offensive line classes ever? 

Recent cycles have seen some of college football’s upper crust sign some epic position groups within one class. For instance the 2020 cycle yielded one of the best wide receiver (Ohio State) and defensive line (Clemson) classes we’ve seen. Unsurprisingly, Alabama has had some huge positional hauls under Nick Saban. The Crimson Tide’s 2017 wide receiver class could yield three first rounders in Henry Ruggs, Jerry Jeudy and DeVonta Smith, each of whom was rated as a five-star prospect by at least one network. Don’t forget Alabama’s 2013 running back class that included four signees in the top 66 prospects of the 247Sports Composite and included Derrick Henry and Alvin Kamara. 

We’ve certainly had some strong offensive line classes in the internet recruiting era (2001 to present) but this Alabama class has the potential to challenge as the best ever. 

First, let’s take a look at the best offensive line hauls prior to the 2021 cycle. Using 247Sports’ Class Calculator tool, we can isolate the offensive linemen within each class to paint a clear picture of the rankings value. 

USC’s 2008 class which included five-stars and future first-rounders Matt Kalil and Tyron Smith has the highest average rating of .9573 with five signees and a Class Calculator score of 124.56.  

Here’s the group of top classes after 2008 USC:

2019 Alabama- 5 signees, 123.14 score

2018 Georgia- 5 signees, 120.49 score

2017 Georgia- 5 signees, 117.04 score 

2013 Michigan- 6 signees, 137.36 score

2020 Georgia- 7 signees, 157.13 score 

2012 Stanford- 7 signees, 150.03 score

A few of these classes like 2017 Georgia (Andrew Thomas, Isaiah Wilson) and 2012 Stanford (Andrus Peat, Joshua Garnett) yielded multiple first-round picks. Texas A&M’s 2010 class (Luke Joeckel, Jake Matthews Cedric Ogbuehi) and Alabama’s 2009 class (DJ Fluker, Chance Warmack and James Carpenter) each produced three first-rounders, but neither of those offensive line classes ranked as high as recruits as the ones above. 

Alabama’s current four-man class accounts for a 106.45 score in the Class Calculator and the average rating of .9712 would be the best we’ve seen. That comparison isn’t an apples to apples comparison though, as most of the other top classes signed at least five offensive linemen. 

You would think adding a fifth name to Alabama’s offensive line class may bring the gaudy average rating down, but that’s not necessarily the case. 

Alabama remains in the mix for two five-star offensive tackles in Amarius Mims of Cochran (Ga.) Bleckley County and Tristan Leigh of Fairfax (Va.) Robinson. Mims, who ranks No. 13 overall in the 247Sports Composite,  is set to announce his commitment on August 15. His Crystal Ball is currently in favor of in-state Georgia but he previously named Alabama his leader in the spring and admittedly grew up watching the Crimson Tide. Leigh ranks one spot behind Mims and has a Crystal Ball that is primarily split between Clemson and LSU. 

Lexington (Ky.) Frederick Douglass Top247 guard Jager Burton remains a target along with three-star tackles William Parker of Nashville (Tenn.) Pearl-Cohn and Erick Cade of Denton (Texas) Braswell. 

Adding one of Mims, Leigh or Burton to Alabama’s class would give the Crimson Tide the best five-man offensive line class in the internet era, along with the highest average rating. The average rating with just a Mims or Leigh addition would average out to the equivalent of a top 50 overall prospect across the board. If Alabama were to sign Mims and Burton or Leigh and Burton, that would also be the highest six-man offensive line class in the internet era while also having the highest average rating across a class. 

Alabama’s 2021 offensive line class is already in rarified air, not only due to its all-time high average rating, but the fact it has a duo of five-star tackles in Tommy Brockermeyer (No. 5 overall in the 247Sports Composite) and JC Latham (No. 17 overall). Adding Mims (No. 13) or Leigh (No. 14) to the mix would make Alabama the first program to sign not just three five-star tackles, but three five-star offensive linemen in the same class. 

Here are the programs that have signed multiple five-star offensive linemen in one class (offensive tackles unless noted):

2019 Tennessee - Darnell Wright (No. 10), Wanya Morris (No. 28)

2018 Georgia - Jamaree Salyer (No. 10/guard), Cade Mays (No. 22)

2017 Stanford - Foster Sarell (No. 5), Walker Little (No. 9)

2012 Stanford - Kyle Murphy (No. 11), Andrus Peat (No. 31) ***Joshua Garnett was the highest four-star 

2008 USC - Matt Kalil (No. 20), Tyron Smith (No. 30)

2008 Ohio State - Mike Brewster (No. 15/center), Mike Adams (No. 21)

2005 Iowa - Dan Doering (No. 33), Dace Richardson (No. 36)

2004 USC - Jeff Byers (No. 9/center), Thomas Herring (No. 33) 

Projecting upward mobility in the rankings can prove tricky, but it’s worth noting that oddly enough Latham may have the most runway to continue moving up. This is due to Latham having the biggest single negative outlier ranking of the current Alabama offensive line commits, given he’s in the top 10 overall on two networks and No. 75 on a third. An upward move could vault him into the top 10 of the 247Sports Composite, giving Alabama two top-10 tackles. 

By now we know that ratings often prove to be predictive of future team success, but you’re probably wondering how this Alabama class would fit on the field. 


There doesn’t appear to be much redundancy within the group and the positional versatility of Tommy Brockermeyer and Terrence Ferguson would allow for the possibility of playing the entire class on the field at once regardless of the fifth signee. Latham provides a lengthy, functionally athletic tackle on the edge who is just scratching the surface of his potential with just one year of experience on the offensive line. Tommy Brockermeyer is a technical, nasty tackle who has the skill set to play anywhere on the offensive line, similar to former Alabama offensive linemen Jonah Williams or Barrett Jones. James Brockermeyer is likely a center in most of these scenarios and has experience snapping in addition to growing into a strong finisher over the past year. Terrence Ferguson is an ideal fit along the interior with his skill set as a punishing run blocker but has the length and athletic ability to play tackle if needed. 

There’s still a ways to go in what has become an odd, unique recruiting cycle. While Alabama’s surge to No. 2 in the class rankings is probably unsurprising to most, the Tide were outside the top 40 just a few months ago. Now Nick Saban and company find themselves as legitimate contenders for the No. 1 class behind a historic offensive line group that could get even better over the next few months.  

 

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  On 7/20/2020 at 4:01 PM, jordanaggie said:

We're pretty pumped about Fatheree.  He's a little more of a project than some top-shelf guys, as he needs some time to get away from a basketball body and into a OT body, but a redshirt year should help.  He's got the tools to be very good, IMO.

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No, dude. Fatheree has some of the worst footwork and technique in his class. Truly awful. The only reason he plays football is because he isn't good enough at basketball, and probably doesn't want to control his weight. Mekhi Bekton is the exception, not the rule. That dude LOVES FOOTBALL and received superior development. 

Does Fatheree love football? Does he love it enough to reshape his body and commit to learning the position? Because, so far, the answer is no. Foster is not a shit program with underdeveloped prospects blowing up in college. He hasn't put in the work yet, why will he in college? 

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  On 7/20/2020 at 4:35 PM, golfclap said:

FWIW, I don't get it with Fatheree at all. I've seen him in person a couple of times and I just don't see it. He reaches, grabs, and lunges out of balance - but all that aside, he just doesn't seem like a guy that likes the sport at all. Fatheree just kind of exists. And yeah, I understand the boredom angle because he's bigger, stronger, and quicker than any DL he plays against so he doesn't have to put any effort into winning his matchup and sure that would get tedious if you don't love the sport. Which is exactly what I see. He just exists. 

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  On 7/20/2020 at 4:39 PM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

No, dude. Fatheree has some of the worst footwork and technique in his class. Truly awful. The only reason he plays football is because he isn't good enough at basketball, and probably doesn't want to control his weight. Mekhi Bekton is the exception, not the rule. That dude LOVES FOOTBALL and received superior development. 

Does Fatheree love football? Does he love it enough to reshape his body and commit to learning the position? Because, so far, the answer is no. Foster is not a shit program with underdeveloped prospects blowing up in college. He hasn't put in the work yet, why will he in college? 

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Sums up Fatheree well. He's a basketball player from a basketball family who likely won't get there in that sport. He's an OT because his size will get him a scholarship.

I just don't see him ever overcoming his feet of stone.

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