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1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

Simplifying aggy's uniforms really emphasizes what a shitty color maroon is. So fucking ugly. 

Whoa, no need to bring down the maroon color. Austin high has enough trouble getting made fun of for our terrible sports teams alone. 

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4 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

I give it an upgrade, just by virtue of elimination of the stripes. But every bit of detail in those is fucking strange and their helmets are always going to suck.

Truth.  The disproportionate, gaudy logo is always good for a few laughs.

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Gigem247 Tarp trying to start a culture war...

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When things started breaking down in the college football world back in the spring, there was the belief that the events would eventually result in the members of the Power Five leagues finally breaking off into a long anticipated super division, at least on the football front. The ones with the gold could finally make their own rules as opposed to being tied down to the NCAA's archaic way of doing business and provide college football fans with those schools the fan experience that they believed that those schools...and especially the fans themselves...deserved. 

However, the trend towards a merger of those leagues starts with trust and that's something that's been lacking in the past few weeks after months of the conferences spending conference calls working together in as much lock step as they could initially muster. It's become evident that risk tolerance is different in certain parts of the country as opposed to others and as much as we might want to ascribe it to other factors such as politics, the politics is simply a reflection of the culture and the risk that the culture is willing to incur.

By the way, if you're as old as I am and have watched as much college football as I have (dating back to the days where ABC broadcast one NCAA game a week), that divide has always been around. You have two leagues in the Big Ten and Pac 12 (its forerunner being the Pac 😎 that have always emphasized academics over athletics (or they would at least like people to think that they do even as the money for football has increased beyond anyone's wildest dreams in those days of once a week broadcasts).  For example, Michigan State is considered a fixture in the Big Ten but they've only been around in the league since the 1950's because of concerns over their academics and a reported win at all costs attitude that made them one of the powerhouses of the sport but kept them out of that league. 

In contrast, the central and southern part of the country has always embraced football as a way of life. You can ascribe it to the fact that the people who either went westward into the Plains and the state of Texas or redeveloped the post Civil War south wanted better opportunities for themselves and their families. In order to do so, they had to take risks with their lives and wealth and they've continued to do so even into the present. 

As a result, life is a competition for us down here in this part of the world.  This has led to a passion for the sport of football that is far different than what you see in the West or the Midwest.  That passion has given the SEC its own time slot on network television on Saturdays even though it lacks the population centers of the Big Ten or some of the other leagues. 

And yesterday, we watched the aforementioned divide between the north and south, the coast and the heartland, play out in real time. Three conferences essentially weighed the same sets of data and came to very different conclusions.

Two decided to take a step back, one decided to keep moving forward, and it's no coincidence that the league that decided to keep going is in this part of the world. 

The decision served notice for now of the dirty little secret that's existed for decades....that the emphasis of the Big Ten and Pac 12 is far different than those of their country cousins. The more established league had the arrogance to assume that deep down the administrators in the other leagues really believed as it did and they would fall in line because their motivations were the same. They didn't work with the other conferences in announcing that they were moving to a conference only schedule and when they received data that rocked them from a liability standpoint they leaked it to the media to build momentum as opposed to being partners to build consensus.

But there's a reason that the fastest growing parts of the country are in the southeast and Texas and it's not just the weather. We love football and we expect our leaders to do the same. It's made for complicated relationships at times but the ability to play the game is important enough to fight for and it's united us across races, economic differences, and political beliefs. We may not make it to the finish line of the 2020 college football season but we're going to try for right now while not comprising the safety of the athletes and coaches we watch on Saturdays.

The cultural differences between those two worlds are now out in the open and perhaps in the end the leagues will find a way to come back and work together.  Even so, the trust levels may be far below what they need to be to keep the NCAA going as an organization and especially for the five conferences to work together as one.

More importantly, it's become apparent that the difference between schools that play football isn't because of attendance or the television markets they deliver....it's resolve. It's not about the Power Five versus the Group of Five or public schools versus private institutions within those leagues.

We'll see where all of this takes us but for now it's apparent that there is a big three and a little two and the little two really need to work on finding common ground instead of dictating terms.

Otherwise, the cultural split that's become evident in the past few days will become a chasm that can't be bridged.

 

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7 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Lol @ valuing academics more than football being a “dirty little secret”

Fuck those arrogant nerds!!

And the absolute academic + football juggernaut that is the B1G somehow being part of a "little two". As if Ohioans, Michiganders, Iowans and Nebraskans aren't college football crazy.

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Ye Gods.

Forced myself to read the article ... wow.

Definitely not interested - at all - in CRing things, but I'm trying to understand whether this is one of the things the guy actually tried to say:

- that the south/east are risk takers, and the regions of the B1G and Pac 12 are not?

- so ... California (including  - um - Silicon Valley), Seattle, Az, Illinois, NJ, Michigan (inc. Detroit), and as a region of the country, you can include NY ... these are NOT risk takers?

- but Alabama, Miss, Louisiana ... are?

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He had this in the thread about whether Garrett Wilson was transferring.  Yeah, Ohio State doesn't want to win at the highest levels.

(In the last but one line, did he mean to write "We want football teams that the universities can be proud of ..." but wrote that incorrectly?)

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6 minutes ago, Getafix said:

Ye Gods.

Forced myself to read the article ... wow.

Definitely not interested - at all - in CRing things, but I'm trying to understand whether this is one of the things the guy actually tried to say:

- that the south/east are risk takers, and the regions of the B1G and Pac 12 are not?

- so ... California (including  - um - Silicon Valley), Seattle, Az, Illinois, NJ, Michigan (inc. Detroit), and as a region of the country, you can include NY ... these are NOT risk takers?

- but Alabama, Miss, Louisiana ... are?

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He had this in the thread about whether Garrett Wilson was transferring.  Yeah, Ohio State doesn't want to win at the highest levels.

(In the last but one line, did he mean to write "We want football teams that the universities can be proud of ..." but wrote that incorrectly?)

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Oh, I am 100% proof positive Tarp meant "Universities the football teams can be proud of."  He's gone full-blown wag the collie.

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7 hours ago, Getafix said:

Ye Gods.

Forced myself to read the article ... wow.

Definitely not interested - at all - in CRing things, but I'm trying to understand whether this is one of the things the guy actually tried to say:

- that the south/east are risk takers, and the regions of the B1G and Pac 12 are not?

- so ... California (including  - um - Silicon Valley), Seattle, Az, Illinois, NJ, Michigan (inc. Detroit), and as a region of the country, you can include NY ... these are NOT risk takers?

- but Alabama, Miss, Louisiana ... are?

**********************************************************************************************************

He had this in the thread about whether Garrett Wilson was transferring.  Yeah, Ohio State doesn't want to win at the highest levels.

(In the last but one line, did he mean to write "We want football teams that the universities can be proud of ..." but wrote that incorrectly?)

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Why are you attempting to mansplain away this guys fucking racist dipshittery?

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12 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

But there's a reason that the fastest growing parts of the country are in the southeast and Texas and it's not just the weather. We love football and we expect our leaders to do the same. It's made for complicated relationships at times but the ability to play the game is important enough to fight for and it's united us across races, economic differences, and political beliefs. We may not make it to the finish line of the 2020 college football season but we're going to try for right now while not comprising the safety of the athletes and coaches we watch on Saturdays.

 

This might be my favorite paragraph, because 2 seconds of research reveals that the four fastest growing states are Nevada, Idaho, Utah, and Arizona.

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38 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

This might be my favorite paragraph, because 2 seconds of research reveals that the four fastest growing states are Nevada, Idaho, Utah, and Arizona.

I was going to rebut that but then I realized I didn't care.  Yes, everyone's flocking to the Southeast lulz.

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2 hours ago, Viper said:

yeah he is aware that Mississippi and Louisiana actually lost population right? and Alabama barely gained any. I guess we'll see if anything changes with the 2020 census. Maybe he's got a source at the census bureau.

The writing quality alone tells you this is a guy whose really plugged in at thte highest levels.

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As an English major, I just can't get over this "article"

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When things started breaking down in the college football world back in the spring, there was the belief that the events would eventually result in the members of the Power Five leagues finally breaking off into a long anticipated super division, at least on the football front. The ones with the gold could finally make their own rules as opposed to being tied down to the NCAA's archaic way of doing business and provide college football fans with those schools the fan experience that they believed that those schools...and especially the fans themselves...deserved. 

This sentence is just...a cornucopia of fuckery. It's actually impressive the amount of idiocy he squeezed into one sentence. 

So his premise is that the Power 5 schools were going to break away from the NCAA and give college football fans a better fan experience they deserve...or did he mean give the fans  better schools that provide a better fan experience? Who knows, It's lost somewhere in that shithole of sentence. Okay, let's see his support for his argument...

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However, the trend towards a merger of those leagues starts with trust and that's something that's been lacking in the past few weeks after months of the conferences spending conference calls working together in as much lock step as they could initially muster. It's become evident that risk tolerance is different in certain parts of the country as opposed to others and as much as we might want to ascribe it to other factors such as politics, the politics is simply a reflection of the culture and the risk that the culture is willing to

There is no trust because of a different risk tolerance in different parts of the country. 

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By the way, if you're as old as I am and have watched as much college football as I have (dating back to the days where ABC broadcast one NCAA game a week), that divide has always been around. You have two leagues in the Big Ten and Pac 12 (its forerunner being the Pac 😎 that have always emphasized academics over athletics (or they would at least like people to think that they do even as the money for football has increased beyond anyone's wildest dreams in those days of once a week broadcasts).  For example, Michigan State is considered a fixture in the Big Ten but they've only been around in the league since the 1950's because of concerns over their academics and a reported win at all costs attitude that made them one of the powerhouses of the sport but kept them out of that league. 

The Big 10 and Pac 12 emphasize academics over athletics. His example of this is Michigan State was a powerhouse but was kept out of the league due to low academic standards and win-at-all costs attitude. Just a cursory google search shows that Michigan State was not a powerhouse before the 1950's. Cool example.

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In contrast, the central and southern part of the country has always embraced football as a way of life. You can ascribe it to the fact that the people who either went westward into the Plains and the state of Texas or redeveloped the post Civil War south wanted better opportunities for themselves and their families. In order to do so, they had to take risks with their lives and wealth and they've continued to do so even into the present. 

People in the Central and South embraced football as a way of life because settlers and reconstructionists had to take risks to create their lives and thus taking risk is natural to them. I mean...how in the holy fuck did people who "redeveloped the post Civil War south" take risks? Is he talking about carpetbaggers from the North? Or is he referring to the former slave owners taking risks by paying black people? 

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As a result, life is a competition for us down here in this part of the world.  This has led to a passion for the sport of football that is far different than what you see in the West or the Midwest.  That passion has given the SEC its own time slot on network television on Saturdays even though it lacks the population centers of the Big Ten or some of the other leagues. 

And yesterday, we watched the aforementioned divide between the north and south, the coast and the heartland, play out in real time. Three conferences essentially weighed the same sets of data and came to very different conclusions.

Two decided to take a step back, one decided to keep moving forward, and it's no coincidence that the league that decided to keep going is in this part of the world. 

Life is a competition for people in the South and Southwest in contrast to the easy life up in the North, Midwest, and West Coast. It's a bunch of tea-sippers lazy rich people lounging around that don't know what hard life is like. (Seriously?)

'The passion for football got SEC its own network, not population like the Big 10 and other leagues' - This is just the stupidest argument. 

 a few TV markets

Texas A&M - Dallas #5, Houston #8, San Antonio

Vandy, Tennessee - Nashville #28

LSU - New Orleans #50

Florida - Tampa #12, Miami #16, Orlando #18, Jacksonville #41

Georgia - Atlanta #10

Alabama - Birmingham #44, Mobile #57

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The decision served notice for now of the dirty little secret that's existed for decades....that the emphasis of the Big Ten and Pac 12 is far different than those of their country cousins. The more established league had the arrogance to assume that deep down the administrators in the other leagues really believed as it did and they would fall in line because their motivations were the same. They didn't work with the other conferences in announcing that they were moving to a conference only schedule and when they received data that rocked them from a liability standpoint they leaked it to the media to build momentum as opposed to being partners to build consensus.

The notion that the SEC viewed football more important than athletics is not a secret. It never has been a secret. The administrators were arrogant for assuming the other leagues would choose the path of protecting student-athletes...yeah...arrogance...

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But there's a reason that the fastest growing parts of the country are in the southeast and Texas and it's not just the weather. We love football and we expect our leaders to do the same. It's made for complicated relationships at times but the ability to play the game is important enough to fight for and it's united us across races, economic differences, and political beliefs. We may not make it to the finish line of the 2020 college football season but we're going to try for right now while not comprising the safety of the athletes and coaches we watch on Saturdays

The reason the southern part of the US is the fastest growing parts of the country has zero to do with football. 

They were 

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Cities in the South that experienced a surge in population growth were Austin, Texas (12,504); Jacksonville, Fla. (12,153); Frisco, Texas (10,884); McKinney, Texas (9,888); and Miami, Fla. (8,884). Cities in the West were San Diego, Calif. (11,549); Denver, Colo. (11,053); Henderson, Nev. (10,759); and Las Vegas, Nev. (9,016). Columbus, Ohio (10,770), was the only city from the Midwest on the top 15 list.

Texas, Florida, CA - hmmmmm, could it be...jobs?

 

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The cultural differences between those two worlds are now out in the open and perhaps in the end the leagues will find a way to come back and work together.  Even so, the trust levels may be far below what they need to be to keep the NCAA going as an organization and especially for the five conferences to work together as one.

More importantly, it's become apparent that the difference between schools that play football isn't because of attendance or the television markets they deliver....it's resolve. It's not about the Power Five versus the Group of Five or public schools versus private institutions within those leagues.

We'll see where all of this takes us but for now it's apparent that there is a big three and a little two and the little two really need to work on finding common ground instead of dictating terms.

Otherwise, the cultural split that's become evident in the past few days will become a chasm that can't be bridged.

The cultural difference between Alabama and California were always "out in the open". The entire country views Alabama as a racist redneck shithole. No one was like hey, they're so progressive. It's such a treat to walk through the diabetes filled streets of Birmingham and get called the n-word

"Even so, the trust levels may be far below what they need to be to keep the NCAA going as an organization"

The trust is now so bad, they can't keep the NCAA together? Your whole fucking premise was around breaking away from the NCAA and forming a Power 5 without the archaic NCAA you stupid fuckhead. Did you read what you write?

 

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49 minutes ago, texifornia said:

If the academics-first ACC schools (BC, UVA, Cuse, Duke) pull the conference out of this, Tarp's head might explode. Even Miami, despite their goomba t-shirt fans, is a pretty strong private school.

 

I wonder where UNC falls in that group. Wake Forest, too. 

Wow, yeah the more I look at it, the ACC is done. Clemson, Miami, maybe VT, and Florida St could be the only votes for. Maybe Pitt and Louisville. But they'll need 8 votes for a majority and I don't know if they'll find 8.

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16 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

I wonder where UNC falls in that group. Wake Forest, too. 

Wow, yeah the more I look at it, the ACC is done. Clemson, Miami, maybe VT, and Florida St could be the only votes for. Maybe Pitt and Louisville. But they'll need 8 votes for a majority and I don't know if they'll find 8.

Why 8??

7-7 vote then let Notre Dame break the tie....

Let's Play Football !!!!

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3 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

As an English major, I just can't get over this "article"

This sentence is just...a cornucopia of fuckery. It's actually impressive the amount of idiocy he squeezed into one sentence. 

So his premise is that the Power 5 schools were going to break away from the NCAA and give college football fans a better fan experience they deserve...or did he mean give the fans  better schools that provide a better fan experience? Who knows, It's lost somewhere in that shithole of sentence. Okay, let's see his support for his argument...

There is no trust because of a different risk tolerance in different parts of the country. 

The Big 10 and Pac 12 emphasize academics over athletics. His example of this is Michigan State was a powerhouse but was kept out of the league due to low academic standards and win-at-all costs attitude. Just a cursory google search shows that Michigan State was not a powerhouse before the 1950's. Cool example.

People in the Central and South embraced football as a way of life because settlers and reconstructionists had to take risks to create their lives and thus taking risk is natural to them. I mean...how in the holy fuck did people who "redeveloped the post Civil War south" take risks? Is he talking about carpetbaggers from the North? Or is he referring to the former slave owners taking risks by paying black people? 

Life is a competition for people in the South and Southwest in contrast to the easy life up in the North, Midwest, and West Coast. It's a bunch of tea-sippers lazy rich people lounging around that don't know what hard life is like. (Seriously?)

'The passion for football got SEC its own network, not population like the Big 10 and other leagues' - This is just the stupidest argument. 

 a few TV markets

Texas A&M - Dallas #5, Houston #8, San Antonio

Vandy, Tennessee - Nashville #28

LSU - New Orleans #50

Florida - Tampa #12, Miami #16, Orlando #18, Jacksonville #41

Georgia - Atlanta #10

Alabama - Birmingham #44, Mobile #57

The notion that the SEC viewed football more important than athletics is not a secret. It never has been a secret. The administrators were arrogant for assuming the other leagues would choose the path of protecting student-athletes...yeah...arrogance...

The reason the southern part of the US is the fastest growing parts of the country has zero to do with football. 

They were 

Texas, Florida, CA - hmmmmm, could it be...jobs?

 

The cultural difference between Alabama and California were always "out in the open". The entire country views Alabama as a racist redneck shithole. No one was like hey, they're so progressive. It's such a treat to walk through the diabetes filled streets of Birmingham and get called the n-word

"Even so, the trust levels may be far below what they need to be to keep the NCAA going as an organization"

The trust is now so bad, they can't keep the NCAA together? Your whole fucking premise was around breaking away from the NCAA and forming a Power 5 without the archaic NCAA you stupid fuckhead. Did you read what you write?

 

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"Texas is going to look back at this QB class and regret it for a long time. It's so deep it doesn't make sense and they will walk out with Milroe lol... I legitimately don't see anything that pops out to me like the other guys."

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