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More to come, I'm sure ... but sneak preview from one of my launch photography buddies.  

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The ones that came on in the 60s/70s were mostly retiring out before the Shuttle Program (and our own ability to launch humans) was ended without a funded follow-on program.  It's the ones that came o

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Yes, we can debate (valid points on both sides) of whether SLS is the right answer for lunar exploration vs private space companies ... but there is no doubt that seeing SLS roll out to LC39B is excit

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5 hours ago, RamjetFDO said:

...or maybe we don't?

https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/nasa-head-rules-out-spacex-rockets-for-2024-moon-mission/

There's a hardcore "SLS or bust" faction within NASA that may end up killing this date because of it.

Lot can change in 4-5 years. Between Musk,  Bezos, and all the other private money, they might force the hands of those “SLS or bust” guys. Especially if other countries demonstrate an insurmountable lead that NASA can’t overcome without outside help

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On 5/20/2019 at 1:15 PM, High Plains Drifter said:

Shouldn't we be thinking long term and researching some sort of electromagnet catapult launch or space elevator or something?

I believe the phrase you are looking for is "steam powered". You dont want to upset the dotard, or this plan will never get off the ground.

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4 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Let’s just surprise everyone and go to Europa, Io, and Callipso...simultaneously 

 You're taking crazy pills - He only asked for an additional $1.6 billion.  Europa alone will cost like $2.6 billion.

On a serious note, this has to be scary for NASA.  Not that they had made any major moves in the past two months or anything (and having visited Johnson Space Center recently, they still have an emphasis on Mars for the kiddos).

@RamjetFDO probably has a lot of thoughts and words on this.

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12 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 You're taking crazy pills - He only asked for an additional $1.6 billion.  Europa alone will cost like $2.6 billion.

On a serious note, this has to be scary for NASA.  Not that they had made any major moves in the past two months or anything (and having visited Johnson Space Center recently, they still have an emphasis on Mars for the kiddos).

@RamjetFDO probably has a lot of thoughts and words on this.

Your sarcasm detector is broken 

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https://www.space.com/president-trump-tweet-nasa-moon-plans.html

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There are probably some frantic emails flying between NASA headquarters and the White House right now.

In a tweet today (June 7), President Donald Trump appeared to signal a lack of support for NASA's current push to put people on the moon in the 2020s — a push that he officially kicked off in December 2017 with the signing of Space Policy Directive 1 (SPD-1) and backed with a proposed funding increase just last month.

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SPD-1 directs NASA to establish a long-term, sustainable presence on and around the moon, and to use the experience gained in this effort to reach the ultimate human-spaceflight destination: Mars. So, the somewhat confusing latter part of the president's tweet — calling the moon a part of Mars — may be a reference to the horizon goal laid out in SPD-1.

NASA has organized its crewed lunar plans into a program called Artemis, which includes the construction of a small, moon-orbiting space station known as the Gateway. The space agency initially targeted the late 2020s for the first crewed lunar landing since the end of the Apollo era, but the timeline was recently moved up significantly: In March, Vice President Mike Pence instructed NASA to make it happen by 2024.

Last month, Trump proposed giving NASA an extra $1.6 billion in 2020 to help achieve this ambitious goal.

It's unclear at the moment if today's tweet represents a substantial shift in thinking at the White House about NASA's goals and direction. And this ambiguity has spurred some in the spaceflight community to call on the president to explain fully what he means.

 

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Please tell me SNL is working on a skit with Will Ferrell & Alec Baldwin on 

"Space:  The Infinite Frontier" with Harry Caray and President Trump

Mr. President, we now know the moon is not made of green cheese, but rather is part of Mars!

 

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Isn’t he saying our plan is going to Mars, and part of that plan is going to the Moon 

(yes I realize it is poorly worded from a retard)

That.  Or he’s fallen under the spell of the camp that thinks a Lunar  base is needed for Mars.  Which will delay any Mars missions by a long time, and runs the risk of the public losing interest as the costs skyrocket even more than just focusing on Mars.   

Not to mention an accident or two that kills astronauts run the risk of shutting down manned flight.  

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Now we know how it’s going to be paid for.  

https://www.businessinsider.com/nasa-international-space-station-commercialization-tourists-2019-6?r=US&IR=T&utm_source=reddit.com

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NASA rolled out a new, multi-part plan on Friday that'd dramatically open the doors of International Space Station (ISS) to commercial companies, facilities, and even private astronauts. 

NASA already permits some commercial activity on the ISS, but the agency said it's looking to boost its offerings to companies so that "innovation and ingenuity can accelerate a thriving commercial economy in low-Earth orbit." It's even seeing this new push as a way to fully commercialize and even replace the space station, making budgetary room for renewed lunar exploration with people. 

One big change in NASA's five-part vision is to enable "private astronauts to conduct approved commercial and marketing activities on the space station."

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NASA now says it will allow private astronauts — two per year — to stay up to 30 days each on the space station. The conditions: They have to get there via a commercial US spacecraft, such as SpaceX's or Boeing's upcoming vehicles, and pay $35,000 per day to cover for NASA's life support, communications, and other expenses (like $50 per gigabyte of data). 

Richard Garriott, an English-American entrepreneur who paid $30 million for a two-week stay on the ISS in 2008, called the move a "seismic shift" in US space policy. 

Garriott is one of seven private astronauts who have visited the ISS, and only because Russia was willing to take them. A decade ago, he said, NASA aggressively resisted their presence on the government-run facility. But the agency couldn't prevent private citizens' stays on the ISS due to international agreements and conventions. 

"The deck was stacked very much against commercial activity on the space station," Garriott told Business Insider. "Almost all of us who flew privately literally had NASA either try to talk us out of it or try to ban us at one stage or another."

 

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4 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Venus is actually quite habitable as long as we stay at cloud level. So we just gotta build Jetsons style colonies.

Ask Wang, he’ll tell ya!   We just bought 500 acres behind Venus...on the good side.

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6 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Isn’t he saying our plan is going to Mars, and part of that plan is going to the Moon 

(yes I realize it is poorly worded from a retard)

That’s how I interpreted it. But he starts the tweet by telling NASA to stop talking about going to the moon because we did that already, then seemingly acknowledges that getting back to the moon is step one. It’s a really odd tweet, so I can understand NASA being confused/concerned about him changing the directive after they’ve made substantial steps in outlining the mission goals.

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16 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

It’s a really odd tweet, so I can understand NASA being confused/concerned about him changing the directive after they’ve made substantial steps in outlining the mission goals.

Let’s hope NASA is run better than the City of Austin, otherwise, they’ve already dropped $20 million on interpretative artists who are embedded in the astronaut corps, and who are busying readying their sculptures and paintings for what they think living on the moon will be like.   

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10 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:


We haven’t pulled that off here yet.

The upper atmosphere of Venus is, as far as we know, the most earth like place in the solar system ... Its clouds are opaque sulfuric acid and the atmosphere is CO2. The russian probes were awesome

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Easy Peasy:

The US Navy secretly designed a super-fast futuristic aircraft resembling a UFO, documents reveal

 

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‘It is possible to reduce the inertial mass and hence the gravitational mass, of a system/object in motion, by an abrupt perturbation of the non-linear background of local spacetime,’ the patent says. The craft described in the patent features a cavity wall filled with gas, which is then made to vibrate using powerful electromagnetic waves. This then creates a vacuum around the craft, allowing it to propel itself at high speeds. The UFO-style ship can be used in water, air or even space. ‘It is possible to envision a hybrid aerospace/undersea craft (HAUC), which due to the physical mechanisms enabled with the inertial mass reduction device, can function as a submersible craft capable of extreme underwater speeds… and enhanced stealth capabilities,’ the patent continues. ‘This hybrid craft would move with great ease through the air/space/water mediums, by being enclosed in a vacuum plasma bubble/sheath.’ Although the US Navy applied for the patent in 2016 and it was granted last year, it doesn’t necessarily mean the craft has been built and tested. However, the technology is further evidence of the military’s interest in developing ‘exotic’ technologies.

 

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/18/us-navy-secretly-designed-super-fast-futuristic-aircraft-resembling-ufo-documents-reveal-9246755/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

 

https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/18/us-navy-secretly-designed-super-fast-futuristic-aircraft-resembling-ufo-documents-reveal-9246755/

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46 minutes ago, Dolemite said:

Routine, safe travel to anywhere off planet is DOA unless the military coughs up some the technology they have been using for the last 70 years.

 

What technology, the stuff concealed near Roswell?

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