2019 Houston Astros Thread

[rvm96 1643]

With the MLB draft coming up, anyone seen any articles about who the Astros might be targeting? 

[tx 3 putt 74778]

Luhnow attended a Round Rock game this week 

 

 

[tx 3 putt 74778]

25 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

And it’s just annoying now that Alvarez is wasting away in AAA.

 

he's better off playing every day in AAA  

[runthebone 7874]

Good job, minor league experts who dropped Alvarez's ranking this year.  His power is freakish. 

[Mo Horn 8680]

3 hours ago, runthebone said:

Good job, minor league experts who dropped Alvarez's ranking this year.  His power is freakish. 

Last two homers were opposite field, and they didn't just barely clear the wall. 

[Mo Horn 8680]

No better way to spend an off day than posting hot Julia pics. 

[Hank Chinaski 6305]

I want to see Yordan as much as anyone, but bringing him up would mean sitting one of Jake or Reddick or Springer or Brantley every day. 

You're not sitting Springer or Brantley, obviously. Jake is your best defensive player and is hitting .313/.361/.597; Reddick is hitting .333/.388/.444.

The weak spot in the lineup is at 1B, but are they going to sit Yuli most days? Can Yordan play 1B (not sure how much he's played there)?

So you have a situation in which you have these guys that should be in the lineup every single day: Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Brantley, Chirinos/catcher.

That leaves 3 spots for 5 guys: Jake, Reddick, Yuli, Diaz, Yordan (if promoted). 

I just don't see how Yordan would get everyday ABs right now. It's a good problem to have, but it is a little frustrating to have a guy absolutely destroying AAA at age 21 and you don't have room. 

Imagine having this discussion in 2013. 

[kevwun 15196]

On the flip side, it's not good to have someone spend a long time at a level where they are not being challenged.  There is potential for him to start developing some bad hitting habits when he's not being challenged.  They are going to have to bring him up next month.

[tx 3 putt 74778]

The only non pitching roster spot that I see changing  is Tyler White. 

Springer / Brantley / Reddick are the starters. Jake is the defensive sub. Kemp is spot fill in. I don’t care how hot Alvarez gets, that’s not changing. 

Same with yuli and Diaz in the infield 

[TonyTexas 10385]

They’re not bringing Yordan up until they need him. Right now, they don’t need him

[Hank Chinaski 6305]

33 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

The only non pitching roster spot that I see changing  is Tyler White. 

Springer / Brantley / Reddick are the starters. Jake is the defensive sub. Kemp is spot fill in. I don’t care how hot Alvarez gets, that’s not changing. 

Same with yuli and Diaz in the infield 

Right. You can replace White or Kemp with Yordan, but who sits? Your "4th OF" is by far your best defensive CF and has a 157 wRC+ (yes, this will come down, but he has had a good offensive season previously, and doesn't need to be much more than average offensively to be playable every day).

DH has been a weak spot the last few years, but the approach this year is different - instead of someone like Gattis getting everyday ABs, the DH spot is used to get other guys a "half-day" off. I don't see that changing this year, unless/until one of the OFs gets hurt. 

Also, there is the matter of White and Kemp being out of options. Demoting them means probably losing them. I know that doesn't seem like a huge problem, but I'm sure the org would like to keep them or get something for them - they are assets that could have value to some teams as add-ins for potential trades at the deadline. 

 

[Mez2 4010]

if/when we get rid of tyler white, I highly doubt we get anything more than cash considerations for him. 

[tx 3 putt 74778]

Kemp is much more valuable off the bench than white. 

The more interesting discussion, is straw an upgrade from kemp ?

[tx 3 putt 74778]

1 minute ago, Mez2 said:

if/when we get rid of tyler white, I highly doubt we get anything more than cash considerations for him. 

Will scraps retire his Tyler white jersey ?

[Hank Chinaski 6305]

3 minutes ago, Mez2 said:

if/when we get rid of tyler white, I highly doubt we get anything more than cash considerations for him. 

I don't think you get much for him alone, but I could see a (bad) AL team valuing him as a part of a trade package...he has done really well in AAA and has some success at the MLB level. But at least you'd get something for him rather than waiving him. Just saying that the club is probably inclined to try to get something for him rather than giving him away as long as the team is kicking ass offensively anyway. 

Edited May 17, 2019 by Hank Chinaski

[tx 3 putt 74778]

There is a chance he improves when given the opportunity to play daily 

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

Does White, Kemp and/or Fisher, and a pitching prospect not named Whitley, Bukauskas, or Martin get us MadBum?  

[tx 3 putt 74778]

I’ll say no, throw in another arm. We have a ton of them 

Edited May 17, 2019 by tx 3 putt

[Hank Chinaski 6305]

23 minutes ago, Seasick Sailor said:

Does White, Kemp and/or Fisher, and a pitching prospect not named Whitley, Bukauskas, or Martin get us MadBum?  

I think it gets you close. Though SF seems a bad fit for White, as they have $$$ tied up in Longoria and Belt. They should like Fisher though.

[henrygandorf 28633]

51 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Also, there is the matter of White and Kemp being out of options. Demoting them means probably losing them. I know that doesn't seem like a huge problem, but I'm sure the org would like to keep them or get something for them - they are assets that could have value to some teams as add-ins for potential trades at the deadline. 

from your mouth to god's ears.

[Mez2 4010]

22 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

There is a chance he improves when given the opportunity to play daily 

at what point do we realize he is what he is? how many more ABs and playing time do we need to give him until he "improves" or starts to figure it out? I can't imagine another 40-50 ABs and a light's going to on and he figures it out? i don't want to bash the guy - at times last year i wanted him up more than others in important spots - but, to me, as a projected DH and someone who figured would get a lot of PT, he seemed to come into this season with that perceived notion and shows up, somehow, even bigger than last season.  

i get annoyed when AJ and Luhnnow have stated that ABs on this team are at a premium, and they are - how much more does he figure to get? it's a tough spot to be in for sure. the fact we are complaining/discussing our DH and multiple options at the MLB and AAA level are first world problems, but still something to keep an eye on. that roster spot will free up another spot on the 40 man should we, likely go that way. 

[DaysOff 7671]

They’re not bringing Yordan up until they need him. Right now, they don’t need him

What if White is injured and you need someone to strikeout? Did you think of that smart guy?

[henrygandorf 28633]

may have been already posted, but here's a (week-old) piece on yordan, and his eventual call up.  i knew he wasn't on the 40-man, so there would need to be some sort of corresponding move (i'm sure there are a few predictable options).

https://therunnersports.com/houston-astros-wrestle-with-promotion-of-power-prospect-yordan-alvarez/

[Hank Chinaski 6305]

29 minutes ago, Mez2 said:

at what point do we realize he is what he is? how many more ABs and playing time do we need to give him until he "improves" or starts to figure it out? I can't imagine another 40-50 ABs and a light's going to on and he figures it out? i don't want to bash the guy - at times last year i wanted him up more than others in important spots - but, to me, as a projected DH and someone who figured would get a lot of PT, he seemed to come into this season with that perceived notion and shows up, somehow, even bigger than last season.  

i get annoyed when AJ and Luhnnow have stated that ABs on this team are at a premium, and they are - how much more does he figure to get? it's a tough spot to be in for sure. the fact we are complaining/discussing our DH and multiple options at the MLB and AAA level are first world problems, but still something to keep an eye on. that roster spot will free up another spot on the 40 man should we, likely go that way. 

I'm with you, but he does have a 108 wRC+ for his career - slightly better than average offensive player. He's well below that this year, but maybe what he is a decent hitter? I have my doubts, but the data indicate that he's not terrible. Other teams (with nothing to lose) may be willing to take him on.

[Fudge Nuggets 18825]

No idea if White will ever get it going, but wasn't it the last week of May last year when Oso Blanco got hot and went off for the month of June?  Guy was a legit player of the month candidate except Bregman was slightly better.

[Gourmand 7761]

10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Luhnow attended a Round Rock game this week 

 

 

Hmm, could be scouting Baylor commit Jared McKenzie or, if the timing lines up, he could be looking at JJ Goss RHP for Cy Ranch. That guy is one of the top high school prospects in the nation.

[ChickenSandwich 9751]

1 hour ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Right. You can replace White or Kemp with Yordan, but who sits? Your "4th OF" is by far your best defensive CF and has a 157 wRC+ (yes, this will come down, but he has had a good offensive season previously, and doesn't need to be much more than average offensively to be playable every day).

DH has been a weak spot the last few years, but the approach this year is different - instead of someone like Gattis getting everyday ABs, the DH spot is used to get other guys a "half-day" off. I don't see that changing this year, unless/until one of the OFs gets hurt. 

Also, there is the matter of White and Kemp being out of options. Demoting them means probably losing them. I know that doesn't seem like a huge problem, but I'm sure the org would like to keep them or get something for them - they are assets that could have value to some teams as add-ins for potential trades at the deadline. 

 

You change this for the playoff run when the days off don’t matter. Let him bat every day as DH for three months. Reevaluate in the off season. 

[ChickenSandwich 9751]

40 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

They’re not bringing Yordan up until they need him. Right now, they don’t need him

What if White is injured and you need someone to strikeout? Did you think of that smart guy?

He’s a power play to prevent a double play. Chess moves 

[TonyTexas 10385]

12 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

Hmm, could be scouting Baylor commit Jared McKenzie or, if the timing lines up, he could be looking at JJ Goss RHP for Cy Ranch. That guy is one of the top high school prospects in the nation.

He meant a game in Round Rock to see the Express

[Gourmand 7761]

15 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

He meant a game in Round Rock to see the Express

ah, duh. i read it in the context of "who are the Astros targeting in the upcoming draft" and thought about RRHS Dragons.

[Mez2 4010]

Alvarez also played 1st base that game Luhnow attended, per Brian McTaggart

[rvm96 1643]

2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

may have been already posted, but here's a (week-old) piece on yordan, and his eventual call up.  i knew he wasn't on the 40-man, so there would need to be some sort of corresponding move (i'm sure there are a few predictable options).

https://therunnersports.com/houston-astros-wrestle-with-promotion-of-power-prospect-yordan-alvarez/

Isn't there one spot open on the Astros 40 man roster? 

[henrygandorf 28633]

jesus how hard could it be to learn first base?

 

 

[tx 3 putt 74778]

3 hours ago, DaysOff said:

5 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

They’re not bringing Yordan up until they need him. Right now, they don’t need him

What if White is injured and you need someone to strikeout? Did you think of that smart guy?

I can be signed on the cheap if they just need a guy to strike out !

[tx 3 putt 74778]

3 hours ago, Gourmand said:

Hmm, could be scouting Baylor commit Jared McKenzie or, if the timing lines up, he could be looking at JJ Goss RHP for Cy Ranch. That guy is one of the top high school prospects in the nation.

I know they scouted those two pitchers this season 

[tx 3 putt 74778]

28 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

jesus how hard could it be to learn first base?

 

 

Mez could play first, in a pinch 

[rvm96 1643]

 

[tx 3 putt 74778]

Jeter needs to retire 

[rvm96 1643]

 

[DallasGatr 216]

Let’s face it, Alvarez is not coming to Houston any earlier than the super-2 deadline (early June sometime.) Not because he’s not ready, but simply because we don’t need him. (As our record and team OPS prove.).

Let’s let White try to work his way out of his funk and allow the Wizard try to get that proverbial bag of balls for him. (Or bundle him with a mired pitching prospect for one of those lotto tickets Lunhow is so good at finding.)

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

Alright Astros fans, gotta couple of questions for  that are fantasy baseball related. 

1. Does Corbin Martin have a legit chance to stick as yalls 4th or 5th starter, or is he strictly just a fill in? I would assume a decent performance against Boston world help.

2. Is holding on to Kyle Tucker a pipe dream or is he getting called up anytime soon? Is it just a matter of Reddick or Brantley getting hurt? Couldn’t you just rotate all 3 of them at DH and the other corner OF positions (while still sprinkling in Springer in RF or DH and Marisnick in CF? And just never play fat Tyler white ever again?)

Not trying to derail yalls thread, but this seemed like the best place to go for an answer to these questions. 

[Hank Chinaski 6305]

35 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Alright Astros fans, gotta couple of questions for  that are fantasy baseball related. 

1. Does Corbin Martin have a legit chance to stick as yalls 4th or 5th starter, or is he strictly just a fill in? I would assume a decent performance against Boston world help.

2. Is holding on to Kyle Tucker a pipe dream or is he getting called up anytime soon? Is it just a matter of Reddick or Brantley getting hurt? Couldn’t you just rotate all 3 of them at DH and the other corner OF positions (while still sprinkling in Springer in RF or DH and Marisnick in CF? And just never play fat Tyler white ever again?)

Not trying to derail yalls thread, but this seemed like the best place to go for an answer to these questions. 

1. Don't know what the plan with Martin is, but McHugh is back to the bullpen and there isn't really a better option to fill that rotation spot. Martin has pedigree (was on many top-100 prospect lists pre-season). He'll probably be on an innings limit this year though. 

2. I'd be surprised if Tucker has any meaningful production this year. And Alvarez figures to get the call before Tucker in the event one of the OFs gets hurt. If you are asking about long-term value, Tucker still figures to be in the plans. 

[Limp Brisket 529]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Alright Astros fans, gotta couple of questions for  that are fantasy baseball related. 

1. Does Corbin Martin have a legit chance to stick as yalls 4th or 5th starter, or is he strictly just a fill in? I would assume a decent performance against Boston world help.

2. Is holding on to Kyle Tucker a pipe dream or is he getting called up anytime soon? Is it just a matter of Reddick or Brantley getting hurt? Couldn’t you just rotate all 3 of them at DH and the other corner OF positions (while still sprinkling in Springer in RF or DH and Marisnick in CF? And just never play fat Tyler white ever again?)

Not trying to derail yalls thread, but this seemed like the best place to go for an answer to these questions. 

The Fantasy thread is that way ————————>

[tx 3 putt 74778]

springer didn't look good that first at bat 

[RoundRobin 828]

Sox wearing the WS hats to remind us they’re WS champs?

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

5 minutes ago, Limp Brisket said:

The Fantasy thread is that way ————————>

A simple “I have no fucking idea” would’ve been sufficient, but it’s all good. I probably deserve that. 

[tx 3 putt 74778]

Just now, RoundRobin said:

Sox wearing the WS hats to remind us they’re WS champs?

correct 

[WBT 20132]

At least Reddick didn't knock it into the stands?

[Slacks 6666]

springer didn't look good that first at bat 

3 pitch k to start the game.
Inconsistent swing.

Brantley's k was acceptable looking.

[Slacks 6666]

The strike zone is large tonight