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  On 7/15/2019 at 4:05 PM, Planet Houston said:

You can't have this take until after July 31.  Let's revisit in 17 days.

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We wouldn't even be in this position if we had signed Morton. He didn't want to leave and he earned and deserved a big raise. 

Keuchel was asking way too much so I don''t blame our FO entirely for his departure, but I sure wouldn't mind his innings-eating soft-tossing left arm right now.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 3:58 PM, Gourmand said:

This organization's front office and GM has proven itself to be one of the best in MLB but I feel like ego crept up this off-season and kinda bit us in the ass. The starting rotation was considered a definite strength but going into the 2019 season with LMJ on the shelf and a crop of unproven starting prospects in the minors was a little questionable given the inherent injury risk of pitchers in MLB. 

Not signing Uncle Charlie especially and Keuchel to a lesser extent was easily Luhnow's greatest mistake yet.

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I think they figured that between Peacock, McHugh, James, Valdez, Martin, Perez, Whitley and Bukauskas, they could capably fill 2 rotation spots. It seemed like a reasonable position before the season started. 

Peacock was OK and is now hurt; McHugh is a bad starter; James didn't get it done as a starter and has been up and down out of the pen; Valdez didn't get it done as a starter; Martin was bad and now hurt; Perez was bad; Whitley was awful in AAA and now hurt; Bukauskas has been bad in AA. 

They will add a starter. 

 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 4:16 PM, Hank Chinaski said:

I think they figured that between Peacock, McHugh, James, Valdez, Martin, Perez, Whitley and Bukauskas, they could capably fill 2 rotation spots. It seemed like a reasonable position before the season started. 

Peacock was OK and is now hurt; McHugh is a bad starter; James didn't get it done as a starter and has been up and down out of the pen; Valdez didn't get it done as a starter; Martin was bad and now hurt; Perez was bad; Whitley was awful in AAA and now hurt; Bukauskas has been bad in AA. 

They will add a starter. 

 

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Yes, no question about it. Consensus opinion held that between all those guys with experience (McHugh/Peacock) and projected talent (James/Martin/Whitley), the starting rotation would be fine without Morton and Keuchel. On the other hand, the only thing preventing us from having that all-important stud SP3 right now was $$$$.

We had him already and he was and will always be a beloved Astros legend for his gm 7 gem. 

There really wasn't a good reason to let Morton walk except Luhnow thought he could easily replace him at a fraction of the cost. That was a very costly mistake and the only way to rectify it in 2019 is to deal prospects to fill a void largely of his own creation.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 4:28 PM, Gourmand said:
Yes, no question about it. Consensus opinion held that between all those guys with experience (McHugh/Peacock) and projected talent (James/Martin/Whitley), the starting rotation would be fine without Morton and Keuchel. On the other hand, the only thing preventing us from having that all-important stud SP3 right now was $$$$.
We had him already and he was and will always be a beloved Astros legend for his gm 7 gem. 
There really wasn't a good reason to let Morton walk except Luhnow thought he could easily replace him at a fraction of the cost. That was a very costly mistake and the only way to rectify it in 2019 is to deal prospects to fill a void largely of his own creation.

I’m ignoring all CFM hindsight talk until I see him pitch more than 15 innings in September (which is the number he threw last year in Sept)

Of course it looks shitty now and of course money played in to the decisions they made, but we all knew this (trading for an SP) was the fallback plan if the prospects didn’t pan out this year.
I have no issues with where we stand now on July 15, 2019. We are in no danger of losing the division and other than suffering through Framber and/or AAA pitcher of the day starting, this isn’t that painful.
Sure, it will be if we have to give up prospects that turn in MLB regulars/stars and/or CFM continues his current pace and remains injury free through 162 games, but that hasn’t happened yet and it’s a waste of time, IMO, to bitch about not resigning CFM until it does
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  On 7/15/2019 at 4:16 PM, Hank Chinaski said:

I think they figured that between Peacock, McHugh, James, Valdez, Martin, Perez, Whitley and Bukauskas, they could capably fill 2 rotation spots. It seemed like a reasonable position before the season started. 

Peacock was OK and is now hurt; McHugh is a bad starter; James didn't get it done as a starter and has been up and down out of the pen; Valdez didn't get it done as a starter; Martin was bad and now hurt; Perez was bad; Whitley was awful in AAA and now hurt; Bukauskas has been bad in AA. 

They will add a starter. 

 

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Did James get a chance as a starter this season before today?

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  On 7/15/2019 at 5:05 PM, rvm96 said:

Did James get a chance as a starter this season before today?

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You're right - he hasn't started a game this year (he started 3 last year). But I think that was the plan going into the year until an injury in ST...then he opened the season out of the pen and had a rough go. 

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He’s had a rough go but still somehow 6-0 in his career.

Yeah yeah, who cares about wins... but still found it surprising he hasn’t been tagged with an L in his MLB career

(Regular season. He got the L in ALCS game 4 last year)

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geez, you would think we are 7 games back. 

Luhnnow goes big game hunting, we're getting a big target - Thor or Bauer. plus a lefty SP.  Add those bullets, plus a healthy Correa Smith and Diaz. 

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Tucker doing a little work at 1B:

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  On 7/15/2019 at 5:26 PM, gecko said:

Some talking head on MLB network touting Trevor Bauer to Astros...question was the “price”

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I still don't get why CLE would be looking to move Bauer, but there must be something to it because he is always listed as a trade candidate. CLE is 11 games over .500 and 0.5 back in the wild card standings. 

Maybe he's such a colossal douche that they simply don't care and would just like to get rid of him. 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 5:47 PM, Hank Chinaski said:

I still don't get why CLE would be looking to move Bauer, but there must be something to it because he is always listed as a trade candidate. CLE is 11 games over .500 and 0.5 back in the wild card standings. 

Maybe he's such a colossal douche that they simply don't care and would just like to get rid of him. 

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$$$$  

Cleveland won their 3rd straight division last year and finished 21st in mlb in attendance.

Bauer is a free agent after 2020 and will be very expensive in arbitration next year.  He has said that he won't sign an extension.  He actually says he's going to only sign one-year deals after reaching free agency.  I hope he does; it would be fascinating to see how much annual value guys give up by going for guaranteed long term deals.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 6:41 PM, Scraps said:
Texas Rangers Athletic writer insinuating the Dodgers drafted Yordan for the Astros because the Stros couldn't afford him

How nice of them.

Maybe Zaidi will help us get another championship this year trading us MadBum/Will Smith on the cheap.
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  On 7/15/2019 at 6:41 PM, Scraps said:

Texas Rangers Athletic writer insinuating the Dodgers drafted Yordan for the Astros because the Stros couldn't afford him

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So, Dodgers give Yordan $2 million and forego their use of said $2 million on someone they (as opposed to the Stros) want ... just to help the Stros. What a bunch of nice guys. 

Additionally, the article a few weeks back about how Yordan got to Houston indicated that the Dodgers were surprised Houston wanted Yordan for Fields; LA thought Houston wanted "the other Alvarez." That would indicated no prior plan.

Conclusion: Ranger writer has a hurt pee-pee.

 

 

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i'm still envisioning a scenario with peacock and mchugh both in the pen with the ability to give you 2-3 if necessary.  we would obviously need to acquire an sp3 to make this happen.

the way his stuff has been lately, i would say mchugh has the inside track on being the 7th inning guy.  even the potential to get 4-5 outs if we have a starter get into the 6th and get into trouble.

still wondering why mchugh didn't get into the games on friday and sat this past weekend.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 7:08 PM, Jacob McCandles said:

So, Dodgers give Yordan $2 million and forego their use of said $2 million on someone they (as opposed to the Stros) want ... just to help the Stros. What a bunch of nice guys. 

Additionally, the article a few weeks back about how Yordan got to Houston indicated that the Dodgers were surprised Houston wanted Yordan for Fields; LA thought Houston wanted "the other Alvarez." That would indicated no prior plan.

Conclusion: Ranger writer has a hurt pee-pee.

 

 

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They also had to pay $2 million as a fine for overspending during that international period

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  On 7/15/2019 at 7:34 PM, rvm96 said:

They also had to pay $2 million as a fine for overspending during that international period

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Well that just increases the Dodgers niceness ... gave Yordan $2 million; gave up their use of said $2 million on someone they (as opposed to the Stros) wanted; and paid a fine for doing so, all just to help the Stros.

Either the Dodgers are run by Aggy or the Arlington writer is Aggy or dense (or both, although that is redundant).

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It’s hard not to conclude, under the circumstances, that Houston didn’t just have Arlington trade Darvish to LA since Arlington couldn’t reach the postseason, and the Astros crushed Darvish in the World Series.

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Yes, as a longtime Astros fan, I believe team history has indeed shown that we have a magical spell over other teams that has resulted in our consistent, unequalled record of franchise success.

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Then maybe douchebag should't post shit like its fact:

-He’s the product of just one more rule Houston bent.

-Astros were under the J2 penalty that year. Dodgers sign Alvarez mid-July. Never plays a minor league game for them, sent to Houston two weeks later for middle reliever Josh Fields.

-It’s hard not to conclude, under the circumstances, that Houston didn’t just have LA sign Alvarez for them since they couldn’t spend more than 300k on a J2 player themselves. (Alvarez signed for $2 million.) Bent, it not broken.

 

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I see Thursday is our annual “get fucked by the angels start time”.
Game time at 8pm Central. Boys will get in about 4am Friday morning I’m guessing. At least Miley is on the mound Thursday so there is hope of a sub-3 hour game.


Edit: looks like semi-annual... I thought we had a similar night game in LA followed by home game last year, but it was 2017. 9pm Central start time Thursday, Sept 14 followed by Friday night home game against the Mariners...at least the Angels/MLB moved up the start time by an hour this year.

Also, f selig.

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