2019 Houston Astros Thread

[HoustonFrog 368]

It would be idiotic to pitch anyone on less than full rest unless it’s an elimination game for us.

[UTexasFight 9432]

But I also think there's a decent chance that our bats are about to go apeshit.  I don't think Tanaka will fare nearly as well seeing us for the second time in less a week.  

Agreed. It’s about time Springer (.121) and Correa (.161) progress to the mean .

[TexArcher 37774]

Hell, Yordan, too.  I know he's young and he's looked lost up there, but if he gets a hit early and loosens up, he can do a lot of damage with that short porch in right and his ability to hit to the gap in that big left field.

[Rimbo 25921]

i love winning man

[utxmike05 1828]

i love winning man

I love having a series lead:)


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[Iceman 2701]

5 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Hell, Yordan, too.  I know he's young and he's looked lost up there, but if he gets a hit early and loosens up, he can do a lot of damage with that short porch in right and his ability to hit to the gap in that big left field.

Is it my imagination, or does Yordan get a WTF? Strike looking called on him that immediately changes the AB.    Dude is trying to be disciplined and selective, and it’s like the umps think he’s a scrub who doesn’t know the strike zone.

[Steamboat1874 4058]

Weather Channel

100% chance of rain in NYC today.

[WBT 20564]

Accuweather's hourly forecast calls for rain between 5pm and 11pm.  I hope they call this earlier than later.

[TexArcher 37774]

I'm surprised they haven't already.  Looks like the options are start the game at midnight with a soaked outfield or play it tomorrow.  So call it.

[DoobieWah 1436]

32 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Weather Channel

100% chance of rain in NYC today.

And weather reports are always 100% accurate.  😉

[Guadaloopy 10964]

Watching the highlights on MLB network this morning and I nearly died when they showed Didi’s fly out to the track because they overlaid Sterling’s radio call - “It is high! It is far! It is caught at the track.”   

[Pasken 1309]

Greinke needs to deliver a win. An ERA of over 8 isn't cutting it especially when we're looking at our #2 starter next year.

[Hate 20108]

Why is everyone assuming Cole doesn’t re-sign here? I may have missed something, but has he said that he is gone after this year? Or is everyone assuming that the payroll would be too high after signing him?

 

[tx 3 putt 76928]

Is Come as good as Cole ?

[tx 3 putt 76928]

22 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Watching the highlights on MLB network this morning and I nearly died when they showed Didi’s fly out to the track because they overlaid Sterling’s radio call - “It is high! It is far! It is caught at the track.”   

I was watching the game at a large Houston sports bar and that swing/hit sucked the air out of the place. Then it exploded when Reddick made the catch.

[texashorne 1177]

2 minutes ago, Hate said:

Why is everyone assuming Come doesn’t re-sign here? I may have missed something, but has he said that he is gone after this year? Or is everyone assuming that the payroll would be too high after signing him?

Payroll. Can't afford him...or match what NYY or LAA are going to offer him. 

[tx 3 putt 76928]

8 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Hell, Yordan, too.  I know he's young and he's looked lost up there, but if he gets a hit early and loosens up, he can do a lot of damage with that short porch in right and his ability to hit to the gap in that big left field.

Keep sending him up there 

[Js1 85318]

1 minute ago, texashorne said:

Payroll. Can't afford him...or match what NYY or LAA are going to offer him. 

We’d have to hope he likes being here and would like another ring. Or if we fall short, want to try again. Healthier CC (🤞🏻), LMJ back, McHugh back. 

[texashorne 1177]

Just now, Js1 said:

We’d have to hope he likes being here and would like another ring. Or if we fall short, want to try again. Healthier CC (🤞🏻), LMJ back, McHugh back. 

Yep. He would have to hate money and love Houston. 

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

We’d have to hope he likes being here and would like another ring. Or if we fall short, want to try again. Healthier CC (🤞🏻), LMJ back, McHugh back. 

McHugh is a free agent after this season. 

[Js1 85318]

1 minute ago, texashorne said:

Yep. He would have to hate money and love Houston. 

Unless he can start in 90 games for LAA while Trout hits all 9 positions in the lineup..... Houston is his best opportunity. If he comes back, we are again the favorites and LMJ helps a lot 

[kevwun 15777]

I think the Dodgers are more likely than the Angels if he cares about winning.  The Angles aren't going to win shit in his prime.  At least the Dodgers make it to the playoffs before they choke.

[HoustonFrog 368]

I’ve got Dodgers -200
Astros +200
Angels +200


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[HoustonFrog 368]

I’m enjoying all the pitch tipping articles on ESPN. Astros turning into the Patriots of MLB.... that’s a good thing

[kevwun 15777]

Glasnow was holding his glove noticeably higher on fastballs.  A fucking high school team would have caught that one.  Sorry the rest of baseball is stupid.

[texashorne 1177]

8 minutes ago, HoustonFrog said:

I’m enjoying all the pitch tipping articles on ESPN. Astros turning into the Patriots of MLB.... that’s a good thing

This is why we need Carlos Beltran on staff..  

[APMP 688]

I’ve got Dodgers -200
Astros +200
Angels +200


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I wonder if the Padres do something really dumb and outbid everybody by like 40%

[formermav43 4606]

1 hour ago, Pasken said:

Greinke needs to deliver a win. An ERA of over 8 isn't cutting it especially when we're looking at our #2 starter next year.

Grienke was fine last game. 6 IP and 3 runs SHOULD deliver a win. 

[Dnaguy 11948]

13 minutes ago, Hate said:

Why is everyone assuming Cole doesn’t re-sign here? I may have missed something, but has he said that he is gone after this year? Or is everyone assuming that the payroll would be too high after signing him?

 

 

Altuve’s contract jumps up 19.5 mil to 29 million hit

Verlander jumps up 5 million from 28 to 33 million

Greinke goes from a 4.5 mil hit to a 24.5 hit.

Bergman goes from a 2.5 mill hit to a 12.67 mil hit 

 

So for 4 players, last year that cost 54.5 million will now cost 99.2 million.

 

 

[Dewey 3286]

If they're not happy about the pitch tipping, that's on them, not the Astros. I'm not a fan of either team, its absurd it's being talked about in the notion that the Astros are cheating, it's as if ESPN and others want it to be so. 

I get that the Astros had someone with a phone doing something,  but no one is so stupid to do that in the playoffs. Quit tipping your pitches. 

Good news for the Astros, this is a big mind fuck for the opposing pitchers.

[Gut Wagon 8065]

2 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Weather Channel

100% chance of rain in NYC today.

And when they do play, hopefully a 100% chance of pain. 

[kevwun 15777]

And they are going to have to sign some bullpen arms because not many are under contract for next year.  There's just no way to do it all with out going deep in to luxury tax territory.  The other thing is that long term contracts for starting pitchers rarely work out.  For every Verlander there are 10 guys whose velocity falls off a cliff in their early 30's.  Greinke used to throw 95 or 96 and can barely hit 90 anymore.  It wouldn't be surprising if he can't next year.

Edited October 16, 2019 by kevwun

[tx 3 putt 76928]

Just now, kevwun said:

And they are going to have to sign some bullpen arms because not many are under contract for next year.

Young Guns 2020

they’ll also try to find the next Morton / Miley 

[GHOSTUSER 361]

Losing Cole after the season will hurt more than losing Beltran after the 2004 season. He is right up there with Nolan Ryan as my favorite all time Astros pitcher to watch.

[WBT 20564]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

Young Guns 2020

they’ll also try to find the next Morton / Miley 

This.  They'll also hope to find the next Cole for that matter.  I think that might start getting harder as there are fewer dumb teams telling their pitchers to do dumb things but we have a pretty good track record.

[tx 3 putt 76928]

Madden to Angels official

i liked him at Tampa and Chicago. Great hire for the angels 

Edited October 16, 2019 by tx 3 putt

[runthebone 7981]

2 hours ago, TexArcher said:

I'm surprised they haven't already.  Looks like the options are start the game at midnight with a soaked outfield or play it tomorrow.  So call it.

Hey, whatever is best for the Yankees, OK?

[HtownHorn 14678]

Just back load Cole's contract with Bonilla deferrals. The only reason Cole should leave is because he wants to pitch somewhere else.

You also need your pitchers you have developed to take steps forward.

[HtownHorn 14678]

Holy shit, hot mic on Sirius XM during the commercial.

Mike Ferrin just dropped about 4 f bombs talking about Britton's WPs last night.

[texashorne 1177]

9 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Young Guns 2020

they’ll also try to find the next Morton / Miley 

This is where we have a strength.. Pitchers want to come here so Strom can springboard them into their next massive contract. In addition to the Astros being a contender, they pitch home games in the AC.. Then divisional opponents have either AC or West coast air.. Its a great place to be..  

 

[Iceman 2701]

Idgaf about the costs of resigning proven players.

 

other franchises make it happen.  Pay the tax and do it.  Houston ain’t poor.  They get support like @ m therfucker from the fans.

I don’t want to hear that they cannot afford it. It’# not freaking Miami.

Edited October 16, 2019 by Iceman

[runthebone 7981]

54 minutes ago, HoustonFrog said:

I’m enjoying all the pitch tipping articles on ESPN. Astros turning into the Patriots of MLB.... that’s a good thing

The main thing is that it's getting in other teams' heads.

[HtownHorn 14678]

6 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Idgaf about the costs of resigning proven players.

 

other franchises make it happen.  Pay the tax and do it.  Houston ain’t poor.  They get support like @ m therfucker from the fans.

I don’t want to hear that they cannot afford it. It’# not freaking Miami.

Plus if Fox really does buy out the regional AT&T sports networks, they are going to get a huge infusion of cash in TV money.

[Tommy Nobis 905]

This is why we need Carlos Beltran on staff..  

He’s like a special assistant to the Yankees choad GM.

And Alex Cintron was the one spreading the word in our dugout about glasnow.

[kevwun 15777]

2 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Plus if Fox really does buy out the regional AT&T sports networks, they are going to get a huge infusion of cash in TV money.

 

What, is that a real possibility?  Getting the broadcast rights away from AT&T is the only way I will ever get the Astros on Dish.

Edited October 16, 2019 by kevwun

[Tommy Nobis 905]

And we couldn’t hire Beltran til Hinch is gone. He’s interested in a head coaching position. He wants the Mets job.

[Dnaguy 11948]

5 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Just back load Cole's contract with Bonilla deferrals. The only reason Cole should leave is because he wants to pitch somewhere else.

You also need your pitchers you have developed to take steps forward.

I agree with this mostly. Back load (maybe not go full Bonilla) eand if you have to take a hit on the luxury tax, then do it. Then you trade him in like 5-7 years when the team is probably out of its window, Verlander is retired, we and pay half his salary to that team or something for a year or two to incentivize.

1st Year of penalty isn’t that bad anyway. It’s only a 20 % hit. Then to make up for it in coming years I think we don’t resign Gurriel in 2020 and either trade Correa or let him walk in 2021.

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

It's official:

 

[Dnaguy 11948]

We have a window to win multiple WS ‘s. You have to go all in. 

It’s almost a waste of $ to give all that $ to the position players As this team without Cole would have been a borderline playoff team IMO. I also don’t know if we make it out of the 1st round / divisional series due to the lack of depth in the bullpen.

[housious 468]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Unless he can start in 90 games for LAA while Trout hits all 9 positions in the lineup..... Houston is his best opportunity. If he comes back, we are again the favorites and LMJ helps a lot 

To be fair, the yankees would be scary in a playoff series with Cole as their ace