2019 Houston Astros Thread

[Mez2 4,041]

Just now, UTPhil2006 said:

Tony Kemp to the Cubs

Not a bad spot to end up for him

[Scraps 13,744]

Deuces Stassi

Your presence alone annoys me

[Tommy Nobis 905]

What an uninspiring move.

Wtf are we doing

[LebongJames 1,900]

1 minute ago, Tommy Nobis said:

What an uninspiring move.

Wtf are we doing

Sarcasm? Stassi is unplayable. 

[UTPhil2006 3,909]

2 minutes ago, Tommy Nobis said:

What an uninspiring move.

Wtf are we doing

Nobody probably wanted Kemp in their deal for their pitcher, we flipped someone who would have hit waivers for a catcher.  Pretty solid move if you ask me.

[Jebus 1,341]

Well I guess I’m happy for Kemp, going to a potential playoff team over in the NL where I don’t have to root against him.

Wonder if this means lower likelihood of Wheeler since the Mets supposedly wanted players who could help at the major league level right away.

[formermav43 4,607]

2 minutes ago, LebongJames said:

I guess he’s better than Stassi

What’s weird is he’s really not. At least from what the public can tell, and Stassi plays so little this year it’s harder to make any meaningful comparison. The way framing is measured, Stassi does that better than anything Maldonado does. He can’t hit either. And I doubt they’ll start him over Chirinos in the playoffs anyway.

For whatever reason, they obviously don’t trust Stassi. Whether that’s because their proprietary analytics weigh framing differently or he clashes with pitchers in someway (JV last year the obvious example), I don’t know. But it’s a strange move on the surface.

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

4 minutes ago, Tommy Nobis said:

What an uninspiring move.

Wtf are we doing

The FO liked Maldanado last year too. We offered him a deal in the offseason. His agent told him to decline it, and then he proceeded to sign a deal for less than our offer. So it all worked out in our favor. 

[TonyTexas 10,682]

Very predictable and fairly insignificant move. Some might disagree but I think it’s a minor upgrade.

[TexArcher 38,816]

11 minutes ago, LebongJames said:

I guess he’s better than Stassi

I am better than Stassi.

[TexArcher 38,816]

16 minutes ago, LebongJames said:

 

That post wasn't good enough to show up twice.

Edited July 31, 2019 by TexArcher

[Southernthunder 38]

Will our catchers knees hold up into the post season? Might as well sign Jake Taylor. 

[formermav43 4,607]

https://www.crawfishboxes.com/2019/7/31/20732006/houston-astros-reacquire-martin-maldonado-but-why-chirinos-stassi-cubs-catcher-trade

Is Maldonado an upgrade over Stassi?

Defensively, not really. Offensively, also not really.

[Mo Horn 8,933]

We were going to get nothing for losing Kemp. He would have signed with someone. Who cares if he's better than Stassi or not. We'll carry 3 catchers after September anyway. Plus he knows the staff. 

[formermav43 4,607]

2 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

We were going to get nothing for losing Kemp. He would have signed with someone. Who cares if he's better than Stassi or not. We'll carry 3 catchers after September anyway. Plus he knows the staff. 

Stassi’s out of options. He’s gone. So even in your scenario, they just exchanged one guy for nothing for another, and arguably got worse at the position in the process. At best, it’s a wash. It’s weird.

I also highly doubt they carry 3 catchers in the postseason now that one is not Gattis, IMO.

[Guadaloopy 11,129]

3 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

We were going to get nothing for losing Kemp. He would have signed with someone. Who cares if he's better than Stassi or not. We'll carry 3 catchers after September anyway. Plus he knows the staff. 

#3 will be Stubbs then. Stassi has no options so he has to go, unless the Astros are done trading.  

[Jebus 1,341]

 

Edited July 31, 2019 by Jebus

[TonyTexas 10,682]

Stassi’s out of options. He’s gone. So even in your scenario, they just exchanged one guy for nothing for another, and arguably got worse at the position in the process. At best, it’s a wash. It’s weird.
I also highly doubt they carry 3 catchers in the postseason now that one is not Gattis, IMO.

I’m not so sure that Stassi will get claimed. If not, he can become a FA or get assigned to the minors. There’s a pretty good chance it will be the latter.

[kevwun 16,269]

3 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

#3 will be Stubbs then. Stassi has no options so he has to go, unless the Astros are done trading.  

He might clear waivers and take the assignment.  I doubt there is a lot of demand for him.

Edited July 31, 2019 by kevwun

[Mo Horn 8,933]

2 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

Stassi’s out of options. He’s gone. So even in your scenario, they just exchanged one guy for nothing for another, and arguably got worse at the position in the process. At best, it’s a wash. It’s weird.

I also highly doubt they carry 3 catchers in the postseason now that one is not Gattis, IMO.

 

2 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

#3 will be Stubbs then. Stassi has no options so he has to go, unless the Astros are done trading.  

Didn't realize he was out of options. Who knows, maybe the pitching staff didn't like Stassi and wanted MM back. Probably a lot we don't know. 

[WBT 20,879]

What a strange move.  If this is what we were going to do, I'm back to wondering why we didn't send down Straw until Sept 1 and hang onto Kemp.

[clapclapclap 9,000]

14 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

 

Is Maldonado an upgrade over Stassi?

Defensively, not really. Offensively, also not really.

Nobody was comfortable with Stassi in the clubhouse, had to watch what you said in case he was an informant.

Edited July 31, 2019 by clapclapclap
Could be my last chance to use that bad pun

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

Here's why:

 

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

Also this:

 

[runthebone 8,322]

Hopefully Machete got the passed balls out of his system last year...

[Mack Tripper 703]

I knew Stassi was bad, but wasn't thinking 32 wRC+ bad. 

[LebongJames 1,900]

I think one of the biggest things is that Cole and Verlander would not pitch to Stassi.

[Jebus 1,341]

Greinke made his start, currently pitching in the bottom of the second. 

Gotta think that if there were serious discussions going on, he’d be out of the game. 

[Mack Tripper 703]

Puig got traded mid game last night and came back out after it was announced. Of course, he is insane. 

[Scraps 13,744]

I think one of the biggest things is that Cole and Verlander would not pitch to Stassi.

Pretty positive Verlander HATED Stassi. You could tell in numerous games going back to last year

[formermav43 4,607]

12 minutes ago, Seasick Sailor said:

Also this:

 

The xstats make that more interesting: their numbers are remarkably similar, suggesting some bad luck for Stassi. I mean, that’s 142 PA in a full year, hardly a meaningful sample size. An everyday player burns through that in less than 6 weeks.

Anyway, they didn’t acquire Maldonado for his bat, it’s below average even for a catcher. It’s about his glove and/or handling of the staff. And I think it must be the latter, because that’s the sort of thing we can’t really objectively evaluate (plus see comments re: JV, Cole above).

Edited July 31, 2019 by formermav43

[Jebus 1,341]

Haha, pirates just plunked another Cincinnati hitter. 

 

[Mez2 4,041]

Heard a rumor from a friend who is in tune with SF media...we made a push for MadBum and Buster Posey. It got shut down. Can't imagine what that cost

 

we'll likely pull trigger on wheeler but that's my thought

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,407]

16 minutes ago, LebongJames said:

I think one of the biggest things is that Cole and Verlander would not pitch to Stassi.

What was the reason?

[LebongJames 1,900]

Just now, Fudge Nuggets said:

What was the reason?

They hated his pitch decisions. They would have to waive off multiple pitch calls

[kevwun 16,269]

12 minutes ago, Jebus said:

Haha, pirates just plunked another Cincinnati hitter. 

 

Hurdle should get a bat upside his head in the next brawl.

Edited July 31, 2019 by kevwun

[Scraps 13,744]

The Astros continue to push hard for Madison Bumgarner, according to a source, but if they can't pry him away from the Giants, they'll turn their attention to Zack Wheeler in a major way. They're motivated to add SP before 4 PM, whichever way they go

[TexArcher 38,816]

17 minutes ago, Jebus said:

Haha, pirates just plunked another Cincinnati hitter. 

 

Round 2.  Ready?  Fight!

[Jebus 1,341]

Rumors of the Yankees going after our old buddy Ken Giles, him coming into a late/close game between the Astros and Yankees in the playoffs would be interesting.

 

7 minutes ago, Mez2 said:

Heard a rumor from a friend who is in tune with SF media...we made a push for MadBum and Buster Posey. It got shut down. Can't imagine what that cost

 

we'll likely pull trigger on wheeler but that's my thought

 

yeah, I'd imagine they were wanting something crazy for what are basically the two faces of their franchise. Would have been hard to get value from that.

And yeah it's seeming like it's gonna be Wheeler, Ray or nothing at this point.   Twitter saying that the Yankees were in talks with the D-backs about Ray but that those talks are now dead.

 

 

[tx 3 putt 78,465]

1 hour ago, Tommy Nobis said:

What an uninspiring move.

Wtf are we doing

Start the off season thread !!!!!!

[Jebus 1,341]

4 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Round 2.  Ready?  Fight!

2 HBP in a 3 batter span.  How is Hurdle still in the game?  At least he removed the pitcher, but they certainly should not have the benefit of the doubt- why wasn't there a warning in place at the start of the game?  Seems like they should have ejected the pirates pitcher on the first HBP rather than letting him hit another batter a few pitches later, then letting Hurdle take him out instead of ejecting him.

but to get this back on track here, would we be satisfied with no moves, if none of the other contenders make any more moves either?

Have to admit I have visions of Bumgarner getting blown up by the Dodgers in the series, he's not on a good recent stretch against them.

 

[UTexasFight 9,787]

We got Wheeler.

I’m satisfied

[Ichabod 185]

1 minute ago, UTexasFight said:

We got Wheeler.

I’m satisfied

Confirmed?

[Jebus 1,341]

Looks like the Giants are making a trade with the Brewers, getting a shortstop prospect.  not sure what the Giants are sending out, so it's not clear what this means in terms of Bumgarner's status.  Something to keep an eye on, I guess.

edit: not for Bumgarner or Will Smith

edit2: for Drew Pomeranz, apparently.  So still not sure what it means for buyer/seller status of the Giants. 

Edited July 31, 2019 by Jebus

[UTexasFight 9,787]

Confirmed?

Per a buddy listening to Houston radio quoting Rosenthal


Neg away if no other confirmation within the next hour

[Jebus 1,341]

4 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

We got Wheeler.

I’m satisfied

 

3 minutes ago, Ichabod said:

Confirmed?

yeah, not seeing anything about this anywhere.  What's the source for this?

[Pibald 18]

I heard the same from a buddy on wheeler. Came here for confirmation source. I can’t find anything yet. 

[LebongJames 1,900]

Not Bumgarner going to Milwaukee it’s Pomeranz 

[WBT 20,879]

Watching Rosenthal on MLB Network right now and he hasn't said anything about Wheeler

[Pibald 18]

I’ve heard 97.5 ESPN radio reported it.