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12 minutes ago, futureman said:

we know 40 times for locke, beck and others.  what the hell did LJH run?  4.78 or 4.55?

The 4.55 guy was drunk. Sounds like the majority of times were 4.7-4.8.  He’s now a TE project. 

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LJH's agent needs to figure out which team is the most committed to developing LJH...... Not which team is offering the most money.  

For LJH to make an NFL roster, he needs great coaching.... New England is one place to consider since Gronk retired.  LJH better have his shit together and work his ass off over the next 5 months.....

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Yeah... LJH at TE is dumb.  The guy weighed in at 210 lbs last month.  He may have been at 225 at his heaviest at Texas.  He does not have the body type for an NFL TE and no team is going to draft a 210 lb project.  He should stick to what he is.  A tall/lanky WR that is physical.  It was dumb of him to try to lose weight for the combine and I hope he's not actually trying to tell teams he can be a TE.  He's not your typical WR and he should have tried to highlight what makes him unique and different rather than trying to lose weight to improve his 40.  

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16 hours ago, Machinator said:

The Pittsburgh Steelers GM is supposedly present.

As a stillers fan, I'm guessing Colbert is looking at three players LJH, D. Davis and Gary Johnson.  They need another athletic LB since Shazier's injury.  From the latest mocks, looks like both Devin's may be gone by the 20th pick, so they could be looking at Gary as a day 3 pickup.  Davis is in the mold of what they want in a cb, unfortunately it's a bad omen if they do select Davis since they have been whiffing high on CB's for the last 5 seasons.  I been hoping they would draft LJH, think he would be a really good compliment to JuJu now that Brown is gone.  Colbert may suck with his defensive picks, but he's been NAILS regarding the WR position.  With Ben throwing the ball accurately to LJH, it would be a steal.

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LJH has really screwed himself.... doesn't prepare right for 40 at Combine, and then doesn't run routes yeasterday.  Who the hell is he getting advice from...... now NFL folks doubt his work ethic and he's probably going to be UDFA.

Boyd's flexibility at corner, nickle and safety might move him to late 2nd or 3rd Rd, but he's projected in 4th Rd.  Beck's speed has a slight chance to move him to a 6th or 7th Rd pick.  Charles O has continued to improve his draft stock, but the high number of quality DL in 2019 draft probably puts him in the 3rd to 4th Rds.

PJ running great time gives him a chance to make a roster as UDFA.  Anderson coming in at 290lbs and 30reps on bench might get him drafted late on Day 3 of NFL draft or certainly signed as UDFA.  Still hard to figure where Gary Johnson will get drafted.... my guess is Day 3 probably Rd 6.

Jeff Howe article:

https://247sports.com/college/texas/LongFormArticle/Texas-Longhorns-football-five-takeaways-from-2019-Pro-Timing-Day-NFL-draft-Charles-Omenihu-LilJordan-Humphrey-Tom-Herman-130604803/#130604803_1Recruiting

 

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47 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

LJ still reminds me of Marques Colston of the Saints from Hostra, although he ran a 4.54 at the combine 

Haven't seen that take yet. Based on what I remember of Colston, I think you're on to something. He was listed as a TE but was essentially used as a WR, IIRC.

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9 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Haven't seen that take yet. Based on what I remember of Colston, I think you're on to something. He was listed as a TE but was essentially used as a WR, IIRC.

I think this is correct. 

I will always thank yahoo fantasy for listing him as a TE that first year. *edit- was first rookie with 1000yards receiving . 

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1 minute ago, ChickenSandwich said:

I think this is correct. 

I will always thank yahoo fantasy for listing him as a TE that first year. Think he was the first rookie with 100 catches as well.

Same... best fantasy steal for me for a couple years.

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34 minutes ago, EZ$ said:

Collin Johnson is more of a Colston than LJ. 

 

played in the slot. Bull dozer as a runner. Highpoints the ball. He is clearly the safety blanket for Brees and a first down machine.  Not many 1-1 on the boundary highlights like Colin shown here  

It’s real to me dammit. 

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So far the advice that LJH has received has been to:

1. Leave school early

2. Lose a ton of weight to increase speed

3. Not practice his route running

4. Try some TE drills/blocking

Whoever is in his ear just cost him millions of dollars.  Just like Liam Neeson, LJH had a certain set of skills.  Skills unlike any other receiver in the draft (and league).  He was told to change to fit into the standard WR box when he should have played to his strengths and highlighted how he was a different animal.  A vicious competitor that would come down with the ball and bulldoze his way to a first down when a play absolutely had to be made.

Such a player is worth a draft pick.  As it stands now, that might not happen.  At this point my only hope is that he ends up on the right team and reverts back to the player that pulled our ass out of the fire on a number of occasions last year.  He's a baller. 

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36 minutes ago, Nuge said:

A vicious competitor that would come down with the ball and bulldoze his way to a first down when a play absolutely had to be made.

Such a player is worth a draft pick.  As it stands now, that might not happen.  At this point my only hope is that he ends up on the right team and reverts back to the player that pulled our ass out of the fire on a number of occasions last year.  He's a baller. 

Hope LJH doesn't take his best offer if it's from a crap team......

LJH's best chance to make an NFL roster is signing with the best offer he gets from a quality organization.  He needs great development from quality coaching in a disciplined structured environment.

Since LJH skipped his final year of college, he  better grow up right now or he could ruin his football career...... NFL stands for "Not For Long".  Get his shit together, or LJH may never play a down of football in the NFL.

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The Eyes of Texas: Inside scoop on Pro Day, spring football

THE INSIDE SCOOP ON UT PRO DAY

I was able to catch up with three members of NFL teams who were in attendance at UT’s Pro Day, and here’s what they had to say about:

DE Charles Omenihu

“He weighed in at the combine at 280, and today he weighed in at 264 to show he could run faster, and he didn’t really run any faster. He was still in that 4.9 range.” … “He did OK today. He moved a little better through the bags today than he did at the combine. But he didn’t jump out and make anyone rethink who he is. He’s a guy with really nice, long 36-inch arms who is a little gangly and still trying to figure out how to use that length.” … “I think he might be surprised where he’s going to be drafted. I think he thinks he’s a first- or second-day guy, and I think he’s a Day Three guy.”

WR Lil'Jordan Humphrey

“A lot of teams gathered around him after the Pro Day concluded to find out why he didn’t run routes and catch the ball today and only did blocking drills. He ran routes at the combine, but it just seemed odd that he wanted to show teams he could block and do tight end-type things — he even did some stuff with the offensive line — when he’s 220 pounds and going to be a big slot in the NFL.” … “I really like Lil'Jordan Humphrey. I think he’s a football player. But I think his lack of speed is going to make it possible he goes undrafted. He didn’t really improve his 40 time today. He was still in that high 4.7, low 4.8 range. But he plays fast on film, because he knows what he’s doing and where he’s going. So he just needs to get to camp with someone and be the aggressive, smart football player he’s shown to be on film.”

LB Gary Johnson

“I think teams want to like Gary, because he’s got really good speed and has shown he can make plays. But he came in today at 220 and not 225 or 230, which says he can’t keep the weight on. When I asked him what happened, he said he usually goes to iHop for breakfast and eats a big stack of pancakes but didn’t do that today. I mean are you telling me you dropped six to 10 pounds because you didn’t go eat at iHop today? Come on.” … “I don’t think Gary is a bad guy — just kind of a dumb dumb. He was suspended late in the season (against Kansas) for failing a drug test. So, at a time when your team needs you most, you fail your teammates. That’s the kind of stuff that scares teams. We won’t find out how his drug test at the combine turned out until next month.”

LB/DE Breckyn Hager

“I thought Hager did the right thing coming into Pro Day at 245 instead of 260. He knows he’s a linebacker, not a 4i technique who took quite an ass-whooping playing that 4i. But he’s a team guy who tried to do what was asked of him, even though his best work on film (at Texas) is as a pass-rushing outside linebacker — probably from his sophomore season.” … “The fact that Hager went 39 and a half inches in the vertical and 10-plus feet in the broad jump shows he’s explosive. He’s a first-step guy, an effort guy with a nice motor. He’s gonna have to get with the right coach, get in the right defensive system for someone to maximize his talent. He may or may not get drafted. But in the right situation, he might be a guy who ends up outperforming expectations, because he was a really productive player per snap his sophomore year, and then kind of got lost at times. And not all of that was his fault as he was asked to do more and maybe got away from what he does best.” … “Hager’s probably gonna have to be a Sam backer in a 3-4. I like the kid. He’s a football player. His dad (Britt) was a productive player. His brother (Bryce) is in the league. Someone’s going to take a chance on Breckyn.”

TE Andrew Beck

“Beck is going to make an NFL roster. He had a really good day today. I think he got himself drafted today, because we knew he could block and get dirty, but today he showed he’s athletic and caught the ball great.” … “Beck is not great at everything. But he’s good at a lot of things. And the fact he ran in the 4.5s shows he’s got the size and speed to play on just about every special teams unit.” … “Beck really helped himself today. He needs to get on a team that will use him like a Swiss Army knife and line him up at tight end as well as an H-back and fullback. He could end up creating a nice niche for himself with the right team.”

CB Kris Boyd

“Boyd worked out well today. You see the explosiveness and just a bunch of raw athleticism. But he plays with such bad eyes. You almost have to break him down and start over in the image you want him. So that has to be factored in when you consider where you’re going to take him.” … “I love Kris Boyd as a kid. He’s just so damn straight forward — for better or worse. And I find it refreshing. He knows where his strengths and weaknesses are. I think he’s coachable. And he needs work. But if you can be patient as a team and bring him along behind an aging veteran, you could have a gem on your hands in a few years.”

CB Davante Davis

“It’s funny to compare Davis with Kris Boyd. I mean Boyd is such a better, more explosive athlete than Davis. Like, it’s not even close. But in some ways, Davis is a more fundamentally sound corner than Boyd is right now. And Davis is every bit of 6-foot-2, so he’s big and long. He doesn’t run great (4.58 in the 40). But he’s a tough football player and plays faster than his 40 time.” … “Someone might use a late pick on Davis, or he could be a preferred (undrafted) free agent. I’d love our team to get him late in the draft, because he fits a lot of what we do as a big nickel. I think Davis is a confident football player and makes an NFL roster.”

S/Nickel P.J. Locke III

“I thought P.J. Locke really helped himself today. He’s a guy who has played through some injuries — like a toe and an ankle I think the coaches told us. I think he was fully healthy, and today he had 20 reps on the bench and ran in the 4.4s and probably showed teams that he could be like a Quandre Diggs as a compact, powerful, hard-hitting nickel and get after it on special teams.”

DT Chris Nelson

“Nelson is a rollie-pollie nose tackle who popped through the bags pretty good today. His measurables aren’t ideal, which means he could go undrafted. But he’ll go to camp with someone, because he’s a smart football player and a captain, and those things typically mean he has a chance to make a roster or practice squad.”

LT Calvin Anderson

“You know? I didn’t know what to think of Anderson coming into today, but I leave thinking he’s probably going to make someone’s practice squad, because he’s long. His feet aren’t bad. His run-blocking on film can be ugly. He’s got to get stronger. But he’s a great effort guy who gives you everything he’s got. His dad being colonel in the Army probably has something to do with that — and the fact he’s a ‘yes sir, no sir” guy. His feet and length give him a chance, because there’s never enough offensive linemen.”

NOTE: The other participants in UT’s Pro Day weren’t seen as possibilities to make an NFL roster by the three NFL personnel members.

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SPRING FOOTBALL NEWS AND NOTES

Five practices into spring football, we have a couple more injuries in the secondary that are just going to intensify the already sunlight-through-a-magnifying-glass-intense competition. Brandon Jones missing the spring after having surgery to repair effects from lingering ankle injuries suffered last season opened a door for Chris Brown, who is showing the kind of maturity, consistency and leadership that has pleasantly surprised coaches. “At safety, it’s his room right now,” one team source said.

Which leads us to our next injuries: Safety Caden Sterns (minor knee surgery) and nickel B.J. Foster (concussion) Sterns missing the rest of the spring has opened a door for DeMarvion Overshown, thus opening an incredible door of intrigue. When Overshown told coaches he wanted to move from Rover linebacker, where he had a chance to start in 2019, back to safety, where Sterns and Jones are returning starters, it was a head-scratcher.

Now, suddenly, Overshown has a chance to get a ton of reps and make some serious improvement. “When DeMarvion decides to run, he can really run,” Tom Herman said. “When he decides to hit, he can really hit.” The message: Go all in and don’t rely on incredible athletic ability to get by.  And let me tell you something: Having witnessed Overshown deciding to really run and hit on Monday, he looked like he was on fast-forward while the players around him were simply on play. Excited to see what he does with this opportunity — other than help build ridiculous depth at safety for the 2019 season.

Let’s flip over to running back … As I’ve been reporting, Kirk Johnson, the OLDER brother of UT leading returning receiver Collin Johnson, is healthy and getting first reps with the second-team offense behind Keaontay Ingram. While freshman Jordan Whittington gets the second reps with the second-team, followed by Daniel Young. Off to the side at Pro Day, I asked Tre Watson his opinion on Johnson, and he had an interesting take:

“That dude’s a specimen,” Watson said. “I mean he’s jacked. Maybe too jacked. When you have that little of body fat, the pounding you’re taking at running back is all directly on the muscle, and that’s tough.” Johnson is listed at 215. But I’m told he’s closer to 220 or 225 and is an absolute workout warrior. The only thing that matters to Johnson is if he can maintain his speed at his current weight, and I’m told Johnson has been monitoring that and making sure as he’s rebuilt his body.

Johnson takes great pride in his hands and ability to catch the football. But the funny thing is Herman the other day basically said Ingram and early enrollee freshman Jordan Whittington are similar/versatile backs who can run it and catch it, while Johnson is more of a banger along the lines of Daniel Young. Not sure Kirko Grinds would agree with that. He absolutely thinks he has some of the best hands on the team.

The bottom line is if Ingram, Johnson and Whittington can all stay healthy this year, there’s no need to look at bringing in a grad transfer at running back. Saturday’s scrimmage will be an important early test for a lot of guys. We’ll have details of that closed scrimmage later that day.

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THE EYES OF TEXAS ARE ON GOLF

Texas golf coach John Fields made sure to get out to Austin Country Club on Wednesday to show a nice, Longhorns’ welcome home to Jordan Spieth, who helped UT and Fields win the 2012 national title. Spieth had to pull off some serious shot-making down the stretch on Wednesday to earn a “halved” match with Billy Horschel in his opening round of the WGC-Dell Matchplay.

Currently ranked No. 28 in the world, Spieth is the only Longhorn in the field at this year’s Dell Match Play, the world’s premier match play event featuring the planet’s top 64 players. And watch out for Fields’ Longhorns, who feature three stud freshmen — Cole Hammer and brothers Parker and Pierceson Coody — who are growing up before our eyes. In the fall, eighth-ranked Texas took down the nation’s No. 1 and No. 2 teams — Oklahoma and Oklahoma State — in the Big 12 Match Play Tournament.

Earlier this month, Fields’ Longhorns finished second by one stroke to No. 5 Arizona State at the Lamkin Classic at San Diego Country Club as Hammer, Coody and Coody all finished in the top 10 individual standings. The Big 12 Championship in late April at The Greenbrier in West Virginia could very well be a preview of the NCAA Championship this year.

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Him running a 4.7-4.8 is what’s going to cost him millions. He should have came back to put together another good year on tape and then the 4.7 (which would hopefully be in the 4.6s by then) wouldn’t be as bad. Still not good, but likely draftable. I’m not sure he is at this point. NFL loves measurables and he has NONE. Not fast, not quick, not strong...just one good year on film. 

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23 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

LJH has really screwed himself.... doesn't prepare right for 40 at Combine, and then doesn't run routes yeasterday.  Who the hell is he getting advice from...... now NFL folks doubt his work ethic and he's probably going to be UDFA.

Boyd's flexibility at corner, nickle and safety might move him to late 2nd or 3rd Rd, but he's projected in 4th Rd.  Beck's speed has a slight chance to move him to a 6th or 7th Rd pick.  Charles O has continued to improve his draft stock, but the high number of quality DL in 2019 draft probably puts him in the 3rd to 4th Rds.

PJ running great time gives him a chance to make a roster as UDFA.  Anderson coming in at 290lbs and 30reps on bench might get him drafted late on Day 3 of NFL draft or certainly signed as UDFA.  Still hard to figure where Gary Johnson will get drafted.... my guess is Day 3 probably Rd 6.

Jeff Howe article:

https://247sports.com/college/texas/LongFormArticle/Texas-Longhorns-football-five-takeaways-from-2019-Pro-Timing-Day-NFL-draft-Charles-Omenihu-LilJordan-Humphrey-Tom-Herman-130604803/#130604803_1Recruiting

 

The way the NFL is looking for fast LBs I think Gary is closer to a 4th/5th round pick.

I also think Charles ends up late 2nd early 3rd

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21 hours ago, EZ$ said:

Him running a 4.7-4.8 is what’s going to cost him millions. He should have came back to put together another good year on tape and then the 4.7 (which would hopefully be in the 4.6s by then) wouldn’t be as bad. Still not good, but likely draftable. I’m not sure he is at this point. NFL loves measurables and he has NONE. Not fast, not quick, not strong...just one good year on film. 

Yeah, that too.  But running a 4.7 at 230 looks much better than at 210.  Still slow, but at least he's huge. At 210 - just slow.

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5 minutes ago, Nuge said:

Yeah, that too.  But running a 4.7 at 230 looks much better than at 210.  Still slow, but at least he's huge. At 210 - just slow.

I think after this year, UT coaches will have enough ammo for when they tell a kid they should stay in school, they actually listen. 

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