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7 hours ago, Pancho said:

What does that have to do with anything?  Do you even know what they said?   Of course you don't. 

 

Look, I know you like to pretend and dream that it's actually Republicans who are the saviors and angels for Black people, but everyone here knows that's not the case.  Biden saying what he said wasn't offensive.  People on social media are laughing it off.  Republicans on social media are trying to score political points with it.  This will be forgotten by Monday and come November, Biden will get 90-95% of the Black vote. 

End of story.  Next topic. 

This is correct. Even Charlamagne knew it ahead of time. Won’t change his vote. 
 

 

 

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I finally listened to the whole interview from this morning.   Listening to him slur and stumble his way through yet another interview is cringe-worthy.  He throws in a few "aint's" and  "mans" and "kicked their asses" and "I know plenty of weed smokers" and expects all black folk to vote for him.  He is a fucking disaster.

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51 minutes ago, Red Five said:

C'mon Joe, hold it together. No unforced errors.... is what his handlers need to be telling him about 40 times a day.

He needs massive Corona flares all over the country so he can realistically say that he can’t leave his basement. 

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57 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

It depends. In key districts, this gaffe may suppress turnout. If played well by Trumpkins, it could generate votes for Trump in a demographic that has been promised a lot of hope in the past by Democrats.

No.  Just, no.  And the last part is just the continued wishful thinking of a party that keeps demanding that particular demographic ignore the evidence before their eyes.  A party that keeps demanding the demographic switch to them despite a looooong history of oppression of the demographic by the party leaders.  The party that keeps pretending the Southern Strategy wasn't real, or that announcing a national candidacy in Phladelphia, MS doesn't send a clear message that carries through to this day, but that demographic can't afford to believe the bullshit the party peddles.  At some point you just have to accept that the demographic just isn't that into you.

39 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

The news cycle spins so fast that this thing will be old news soon enough.  We have a holiday weekend about to start and we’re about 6 months out. Whose really paying attention anyway?

This is correct.  This is a non-story being exploited by the usual disingenuous suspects for the usual duplicitous purposes. (see above).

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5 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Joe is a white man with tremendous power stating the requirements for blackness. I don't care what black people think about it, that is unacceptable.

Does it matter? No, of course not. Nothing matters. (Including our votes here on this website, which are 100% immaterial and represent a gnat's fart in a hurricane.)

Joe is a liar and probably a rapist (at BEST a tremendous creep) with horrific politics and mental decline and it doesn't matter. Liberals are out here saying they would vote for him even if "he boiled babies and ate them". It doesn't matter. Joe could go out there and say, "If a black doesn't vote for me, he's a worthless n*****." and it wouldn't matter. His black vote share would drop, as mentioned above, from 95% to 94% and the Internet would be flooded with thinkpieces about how this is Good, Actually because it is allowing a "broader conversation".

Is that because what Joe said/did/is is actually OK? No, it's because white patriarchy has created two prison cells for them to choose from. Or, to steal from parlance of Owens/West, two plantations for them to work on.

Owens and West are correct to point that out. Their prescription, which is to move to the more abusive plantation, is idiotic, but their observation about the reality of the situation is valid. An observation of reality that modern liberals either cannot see or refuse to acknowledge.

Pundit-brain in full manic episode.

Says a trump supporting fraud.

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It’s pretty awesome watching people spin Joe Biden’s outlandishly racist comment. It’s just another example to prove the man’s brain has turned into scrambled eggs. What an incredibly stupid and racist comment that was. 

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1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

Oh good, now we’re in the phase when Republicans (and apparently now Bernie Bros) latch on to some C-list celebrity nobody as their appeal to authority, despite that celebrity being most notable for the fact that he’s an outlier.  “Yes, I know Biden leads Trump by 80 points among black voters ... but what about Charlemagne Tha God?  Also, have you heard Ted Nugent’s latest response to people upset about school shootings?  Or about how Stephen Baldwin is taking over Hollywood?  It’s all happening, sheeple!”

 

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1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

Oh good, now we’re in the phase when Republicans (and apparently now Bernie Bros) latch on to some C-list celebrity nobody as their appeal to authority, despite that celebrity being most notable for the fact that he’s an outlier.  “Yes, I know Biden leads Trump by 80 points among black voters ... but what about Charlemagne Tha God?  Also, have you heard Ted Nugent’s latest response to people upset about school shootings?  Or about how Stephen Baldwin is taking over Hollywood?  It’s all happening, sheeple!”

You think he’s the only person he offended with that shit? The interviewer? I think you are missing the gravity of what he just did. 

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31 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

You think he’s the only person he offended with that shit? The interviewer? I think you are missing the gravity of what he just did. 

Fascinating how the whole "fuck your feelings" and anti-PC police MAGAts are now clutching their pearls as to how hurtful these words are to a group of voters they couldn't care less about.

Look it was a stupid thing to say (and probably won't be his last gaffe between now and November), but once Biden nominates Kamala or Demmings as his running mate and Obama is out there on the stump for him, any misgivings African-Americans had about Biden (if there are any) will be extinguished.

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21 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Man, the mental gymnastics y'all are gonna have to do thru November is gonna be sooo much fun to watch........

100 point ec victory and 6-7 pt pop vote is more like light stretching.

this is people who aren't voting for trump arguing with other people who aren't voting for trump.  are you under the impression that charlemagne is going to vote for trump and tell his fans to do likewise?

nobody is undecided.

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Just now, henrygandorf said:

100 point ec victory and 6-7 pt pop vote is more like light stretching.

this is people who aren't voting for trump arguing with other people who aren't voting for trump.  are you under the impression that charlemagne is going to vote for trump and tell his fans to do likewise?

nobody is undecided.

It's just the Joe show...  I can't look away. I really feel for the guy.

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Just now, Onboard 2.0 said:

It's just the Joe show...  I can't look away. I really feel for the guy.

but your implication is that we're making rationalizations to justify our votes.  we don't care.  trump sets the bar lower than we've ever seen it.

it's actually remarkably convenient for us.

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2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

but your implication is that we're making rationalizations to justify our votes.  we don't care.  trump sets the bar lower than we've ever seen it.

it's actually remarkably convenient for us.

Joe is one interview away from some saying some of my best friends are black.

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29 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Fascinating how the whole "fuck your feelings" and anti-PC police MAGAts are now clutching their pearls as to how hurtful these words are to a group of voters they couldn't care less about.

Look it was a stupid thing to say (and probably won't be his last gaffe between now and November), but once Biden nominates Kamala or Demmings as his running mate and Obama is out there on the stump for him, any misgivings African-Americans had about Biden (if there are any) will be extinguished.

I don’t even know WTF you are saying. Biden just told me I’m not really black if I consider voting for Trump. An old, rich white dude. Fuck off with all of your other bull shit. 

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I don’t even know WTF you are saying. Biden just told me I’m not really black if I consider voting for Trump. An old, rich white dude. Fuck off with all of your other bull shit. 
Vote Trump if you want. No one gives a shit. Biden has this.
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23 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Joe is one interview away from some saying some of my best friends are black.

which matters...why?  the only bullet in the trump gun is "hey do you guys see how senile this biden guy is?"

has it helped trump in the polls?  no, actually it's hurt him with the olds.  well played.

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1 hour ago, Newy25 said:

It’s pretty awesome watching people spin Joe Biden’s outlandishly racist comment. It’s just another example to prove the man’s brain has turned into scrambled eggs. What an incredibly stupid and racist comment that was. 

The exact same mindset is reflected by 95% of the mainstream media and by practically every white semi-important Democrat politician (and a good chunk of the non-white Democrat politicians as well) in Washington D.C.  This is the result of seeing people as classes and categories and not as individual persons.

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11 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

which matters...why?  the only bullet in the trump gun is "hey do you guys see how senile this biden guy is?"

has it helped trump in the polls?  no, actually it's hurt him with the olds.  well played.

Hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

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44 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I don’t even know WTF you are saying. Biden just told me I’m not really black if I consider voting for Trump. An old, rich white dude. Fuck off with all of your other bull shit. 

No he didn’t. Stop. 
 

did you watch the entire interview or just listen to that one line? Do you d do listen to the breakfast klub and wack ass charlamagne regularly or no? 
 

I know the answers to this but, I’ll wait.

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The exact same mindset is reflected by 95% of the mainstream media and by practically every white semi-important Democrat politician (and a good chunk of the non-white Democrat politicians as well) in Washington D.C.  This is the result of seeing people as classes and categories and not as individual persons.

Kind of like seeing all Democrats as socialists?
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7 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Joe is a white man with tremendous power stating the requirements for blackness. I don't care what black people think about it, that is unacceptable.

Does it matter? No, of course not. Nothing matters. (Including our votes here on this website, which are 100% immaterial and represent a gnat's fart in a hurricane.)

Joe is a liar and probably a rapist (at BEST a tremendous creep) with horrific politics and mental decline and it doesn't matter. Liberals are out here saying they would vote for him even if "he boiled babies and ate them". It doesn't matter. Joe could go out there and say, "If a black doesn't vote for me, he's a worthless n*****." and it wouldn't matter. His black vote share would drop, as mentioned above, from 95% to 94% and the Internet would be flooded with thinkpieces about how this is Good, Actually because it is allowing a "broader conversation".

Is that because what Joe said/did/is is actually OK? No, it's because white patriarchy has created two prison cells for them to choose from. Or, to steal from parlance of Owens/West, two plantations for them to work on.

Owens and West are correct to point that out. Their prescription, which is to move to the more abusive plantation, is idiotic, but their observation about the reality of the situation is valid. An observation of reality that modern liberals either cannot see or refuse to acknowledge.

Pundit-brain in full manic episode.

Everything in your post is correct.  But this is more a reflection of what the Democrat Party has turned into than Joe Biden.  It is no longer a political party.   It is a religious cult that has been brainwashed into accepting the tenets of the cult without introspection or critical thinking. (Only instead of gathering for their mass worship services at some whack job church they gather on Twitter.) If Jim Jones were alive today he would have won the Democratic primary.  This is also why the Party in general hates the Sanders wing.  They are the only faction that has not bowed their heads in worship to them.  

 

As to the idea that selecting Harris for VP would placate the African-Americans Biden offended today.  I'm sure selecting someone with a history of aggressively prosecuting people for possession of marijuana when she was the Attorney General in California will remedy all of their concerns.

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1 minute ago, EMAWesome said:

Everything in your post is correct.  But this is more a reflection of what the Democrat Party has turned into than Joe Biden.  It is no longer a political party.   It is a religious cult that has been brainwashed into accepting the tenets of the cult without introspection or critical thinking. (Only instead of gathering for their mass worship services at some whack job church they gather on Twitter.) If Jim Jones were alive today he would have won the Democratic primary.  This is also why the Party in general hates the Sanders wing.  They are the only faction that has not bowed their heads in worship to them.  

 

As to the idea that selecting Harris for VP would placate the African-Americans Biden offended today.  I'm sure selecting someone with a history of aggressively prosecuting people for possession of marijuana when she was the Attorney General in California will remedy all of their concerns.

You and your party do not give two shits about Black people.  Never have, never will.  So why do you give a shit?  Oh, you don’t except to score political points. 

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2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

And the republicans show up like clockwork in this thread as if there is a plethora of racial harmony in their party and with trump when it comes to Blacks.

 

Can’t make this shit up if you tried. 

their only hope is some sort of implosion in the democratic party that results in low turnout or (in their imagination) the majority of the bernie people voting for trump (voting to burn it all down i guess).  i don't blame them.  winning an election straight up isn't in the cards.  they need another fluky chain of events, because hillary clinton is not walking through that door.

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Just now, henrygandorf said:

their only hope is some sort of implosion in the democratic party that results in low turnout or (in their imagination) the majority of the bernie people voting for trump (voting to burn it all down i guess).  i don't blame them.  winning an election straight up isn't in the cards.  they need another fluky chain of events, because hillary clinton is not walking through that door.

and it’s not going to happen.  That’s the funny part.  I’ll concede that this gaffe might cause Joe to lose 1% of black voters, but to think all of a sudden 30%+ will vote for trump in November is just a.) idiotic and b.) delusional. 

 

If that happens, I’ll come back and say I was wrong.  I do not plan to have that speech/post prepared tho

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4 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

As to the idea that selecting Harris for VP would placate the African-Americans Biden offended today.  I'm sure selecting someone with a history of aggressively prosecuting people for possession of marijuana when she was the Attorney General in California will remedy all of their concerns.

when asked on an interview on cnn today, charlemagne said he thinks biden should choose abrams, demmings, or kamala.

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1 minute ago, EMAWesome said:

Are you serious?  (Oops, I keep forgetting the Great Wall of China sized lack of self-awareness this board is plagued with.)

i'm just starting to question your commitment to the bit:

9 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

Everything in your post is correct.  But this is more a reflection of what the Democrat Party has turned into than Joe Biden.  It is no longer a political party.   It is a religious cult that has been brainwashed into accepting the tenets of the cult without introspection or critical thinking. (Only instead of gathering for their mass worship services at some whack job church they gather on Twitter.) If Jim Jones were alive today he would have won the Democratic primary.  This is also why the Party in general hates the Sanders wing.  They are the only faction that has not bowed their heads in worship to them.  

 

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Black Twitter/Black Social Media has basically done one of two things with this today:

1.) Proclaim that it’s no big deal because trump has said more shit that is way more racist and has said it more frequently including just yesterday when he was praising Henry Ford.

2.) stated they hate Joe Biden and this is an example why—BUT they will still vote for him in November

 

There has been a small—and I do mean small—fraction of Blacks online who said this will cause them to not vote for him, but that small percentage has been suckered into trump before this thanks to the Candace Owens and Kanye types. Hell Charlamagne still stuck up for him after this interview, and Charlamagne is fucking wack.  The hashtag that was floating around twitter most of the day is clearly the Russian bots and White Republicans who don’t give two shits about Blacks and instead just want the Black votes for trump because they know he’s losing.

My parents are Black Christians and lean conservative but are Dems.  I asked my mom about it today (granted she’s probably had some wine) but her words were “he’s a dumbass for saying that, but I’ll still be there when the polls open to vote for him.”   Black churches will still be preaching Vote Biden from here until November.  This hasn’t changed a damn thing and it’s funny watching people who aren’t Black tell me what is and isn’t racist, and I’m the one who has been called a nigger multiple times by people who are not my own race. 

 

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