Echo in the Canyon

[tbone_ 14300]

https://boingboing.net/2019/04/04/trailer-for-new-documentary-ab-2.html

 

I’m in.

[Gil Bang 26121]

It was a hell of a scene. Lots of good shit about it in Graham Nash's book. 

 

I'm sure y'all have hear the story that Joni Mitchell often told.  It goes like this:

When I wanted to come to America, I asked, "where do the weird people live?".

"California", they said.

So, I went to California, and I asked "where do the weird people live?"

"Los Angeles", they said.

So, I went to Los Angeles, and I asked "where do the weird people live?"

"Laurel Canyon", they said.

So, I went to Laurel Canyon, and I asked "where do the weird people live?"

"Lookout Mountain" they said.

So, I bought a house on Lookout Mountain

Edited April 5, 2019 by Gil Bang

[4th&Five 41725]

Looks great. 

[tbone_ 14300]

Anyone seen this yet?

[Gil Bang 26121]

I haven't even noticed it playing anywhere.  It it on the arthouse circuit?
 

[tbone_ 14300]

Idk. Only two theaters that I know of here in AZ. But not necessarily artsy ones.

[Gil Bang 26121]

Just checked.  2 theatres in San Diego.  1 in La Jolla, 1 in Hillcrest (a very gay part of town NTTAWWT).  The Hillcrest one is art-housy.   

Edited July 5, 2019 by Gil Bang

[tbone_ 14300]

I think I’m going to check it out tomorrow. 92% on Rotten Tomatoes

[jimmyjazz 46526]

I've heard it's a bit of a Jakob Dylan vanity deal.  I'll still go see it.

[tbone_ 14300]

Good flick. Interesting stuff. Roger McGuinn and David Crosby spend a fair amount of time telling us how important they are. Lots of Jakob, but that’s ok. Worth watching. The Tom Petty interviews are pretty cool.

[Gil Bang 26121]

Well, in my book, Crosby IS important.   McGuinn not so much.

[RiverwalkMiner 257]

I totally recommend seeking out this movie in your area, I really enjoyed it. I don't know why it made my laugh but, at 51 I was the youngest person in the theater. 

For a nice companion piece, check out the podcast "Rolling Stone Music Now" June 4 - Jakob Dylon. 

Edited July 9, 2019 by RiverwalkMiner
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[tbone_ 14300]

I was also the youngest one in my theater. By at least 10 years or more. 

[Gil Bang 26121]

same deal here for "Concert for George" in the theatre a year or two ago. 

[Gil Bang 26121]

just saw this. 

 

What a pile of flaming dog shit.

[Nuge 2007]

I enjoyed the interviews but got a little tired of Jakob fellating himself.

[Kermit 3160]

I got the impression watching it that Michelle Phillips fucked a lot, and probably still does on the Senior Circuit. Jakob definitely smells his own farts.

[Gil Bang 26121]

Yeah, I've never seen a "documentary" where the camera was always on the questioner, instead of the questionee.  

 

[BurdineBandit 820]

I saw this 2 nights ago. Always been fascinated with Hippie shit, 60s, Cali in the 60s, etc, so it was very interesting and I was thoroughly enjoying it until every single interruption for Jacob to play his renditions. After the first one I forwarded through all the remaining 17. You old shits are reminding me I should send it to my dad, he'd enjoy it.

I assume Michelle Phillips is the Mama that smashed both the Papas? That non-apology she gave for cheating on her husband because "that's just how she was, and still is really" was pretty head-scratchingly hilarious.

[Gil Bang 26121]

2 hours ago, BurdineBandit said:

I saw this 2 nights ago. Always been fascinated with Hippie shit, 60s, Cali in the 60s, etc, so it was very interesting and I was thoroughly enjoying it until every single interruption for Jacob to play his renditions. After the first one I forwarded through all the remaining 17. You old shits are reminding me I should send it to my dad, he'd enjoy it.

I assume Michelle Phillips is the Mama that smashed both the Papas? That non-apology she gave for cheating on her husband because "that's just how she was, and still is really" was pretty head-scratchingly hilarious.

Yeah, I enjoyed parts of it too, but I never really thought "now's a great time to watch Cat Power sing a song".   Who the fuck is Cat Power, anyway?

[Sbbruin 21938]

I am still going to watch it, but bummed to hear it isn't that great.

[Ollie Slatt 289]

The idea of a documentary about Laurel Canyon's place in American music is great . . . but the execution sucked.  The focus was too narrow -- it was all Byrds, Mamas and Papas, and Buffalo Springfield.  No real focus on Jackson Browne or anyone else from the 70s.  That said, I did enjoy some of the Tom Petty, David Crosby and Stephen Stills interviews. 

As an aside, does anyone feel that Roger McGuinn must be one of the biggest D-bags in rock history?  The guy is unbelievably self-important.  I saw him and Hillman during the Sweetheart of the Rodeo reunion tour a few years ago, and he took a few shots at Gram Parsons between songs, which I found funny since Parsons was the driving force behind what is by far the Byrds' best work.    

 

 

[Carl Spackler 3561]

I enjoyed it -- could have been better, but it wasn't a waste of an hour and a half.  Jakob Dylan as an interviewer made me want to bang my head against a wall several times.  Best part of it for me was hearing all the old Byrds and Buffalo Springfield tunes that I'd forgotten about.

Michelle Phillips was a smoke show back then (and looks good for her age now).  The fact that she wasn't a fanatic about her marriage only adds to the intrigue.   

 

[troph 24929]

Jakob Dylan’s renditions were horibad and it was too narrow like someone said. I enjoyed the real music and the interviews but a lot of them were pretty shallow, “yeah it was a crazy time, and a crazy place, the kinda place that made you wanna go over and play your guitar at your friends house, and write a song.” If I heard that basic line again... ugh. Shoulda focused on a broader range of the musicians there. Told more stories of debauchery and shit.

I did a deep dive on The Beach Boys after watching though, been a while since they were at the forefront of my mind musically. Crazy distinctive band for sure.

[DougO 5257]

12 hours ago, troph said:

Jakob Dylan’s renditions were horibad and it was too narrow like someone said. I enjoyed the real music and the interviews but a lot of them were pretty shallow, “yeah it was a crazy time, and a crazy place, the kinda place that made you wanna go over and play your guitar at your friends house, and write a song.” If I heard that basic line again... ugh. Shoulda focused on a broader range of the musicians there. Told more stories of debauchery and shit.

I did a deep dive on The Beach Boys after watching though, been a while since they were at the forefront of my mind musically. Crazy distinctive band for sure.

A serious Beach Boys documentary is way past due. It would be an epic undertaking, but it's amazing that a serious filmmaker hasn't taken it on the way it really should be done, there's so much material there to explore both musically and just the total weirdness that permeates the entire story of the whole band through the ages. The Endless Harmony doc was a decent stab at it back in the previous millennium, but it still just scratches the surface.

[noharleyyet 2853]

Watched yesterday...after having worn out program search during April-May thought it was ok. I'd probably be self indulgent with Jakob's start up cash and pedigree. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

On 11/14/2019 at 7:18 PM, Ollie Slatt said:

The idea of a documentary about Laurel Canyon's place in American music is great . . . but the execution sucked.  The focus was too narrow -- it was all Byrds, Mamas and Papas, and Buffalo Springfield.  No real focus on Jackson Browne or anyone else from the 70s.  That said, I did enjoy some of the Tom Petty, David Crosby and Stephen Stills interviews. 

As an aside, does anyone feel that Roger McGuinn must be one of the biggest D-bags in rock history?  The guy is unbelievably self-important.  I saw him and Hillman during the Sweetheart of the Rodeo reunion tour a few years ago, and he took a few shots at Gram Parsons between songs, which I found funny since Parsons was the driving force behind what is by far the Byrds' best work.    

 

 

Well, they were much bigger acts than Jackson Browne.  The Byrds alone are one of rocks pantheon of rock groups.  Jackson Browne is more famous for beating his girlfriend Daryl Hannah repeatedly in my opinion, than for his music.  The genesis was the 60's not the 70's.

Edited June 9, 2020 by Onboard 2.0

[Gil Bang 26121]

I thought the doc sucked. 

Stern was saying that there's one on Hulu that's pretty good. 

[alincoln 2385]

The subject matter was compelling enough for me to get past the cliches and self indulgence.  Some of the Jakob Dylan renditions were indeed awful but some were passable.  Could have easily been much better.

[Wally Pryor 5315]

She needs her own documentary.     Fascinating little thing.