Breaking news - Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on fire

[Bevo 13577]

It is my understanding that the Church that burned is kind of important. It seems restoring it might have some value to society. A few people might even consider it art and of national interest.

[MissingInAction 25076]

Id like $800 million donated to the various causes of my penis.

Edited April 16, 2019 by MissingInAction

[phdhorn 6224]

Anyone who thinks that Notre Dame is "just a church" has pretty much zero understanding of history, and more importantly, why Notre Dame is one of the fundamental agents that changed human history in just about any way you can imagine.  Yeah, it's that important.  No wait, more important than that.

[52-80 19158]

9 minutes ago, mbtex said:

Church belongs to France. Catholic Church pays to use it.

They probably can pay to restore it, too

[clapclapclap 9000]

2 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

Macron says it will be rebuilt within 5 years.

 

47 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I saw an estimate of 10-15 years for total restoration. 

5 years in Metric is about 15 years in Imperial.

[Deej 76791]

49 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think a lot of people will donate.  I know I will.  I am currently looking at the various ways to donate and trying to pick which one.

I hear Geoff Ketchum has started a fund. 

[Bevo 13577]

5 minutes ago, Deej said:

I hear Geoff Ketchum has started a fund. 

He's the one in Cedar Park, right?

[Jiggy-Z 3432]

36 minutes ago, mbtex said:

Church belongs to France. Catholic Church pays to use it.

I think the rent is going up.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

7 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

I think the rent is going up.

Their fire insurance policy sure as shit is.

[elfenix 34241]

is there any money left in the wreath fund?

[retread 2951]

Probably not. Dr Drunkenstein is on a beach earning 20%.

[mycox 582]

1 hour ago, thrillhammer said:

you've obviously never been, nor are you a history, art, or architecture buff.  this is a huge loss to the world.

I have been and love architectural history. It's is/was an amazing place. 

[Wyatt Mann 17]

If it was terrorism, will France's government admit it?

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19101]

1 hour ago, 52-80 said:

you mean its not a good idea to donate money towards a church that belongs to one of the wealthiest organizations in the world, that also pays no taxes?

The church belongs to France.

Edited April 16, 2019 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[Fozzz 152]

4 minutes ago, Wyatt Mann said:

If it was terrorism, will France's government admit it?

Probably not.  Word on the street is that Macron is secretly a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

[Fozzz 152]

 

1 hour ago, thrillhammer said:

you've obviously never been, nor are you a history, art, or architecture buff.  this is a huge loss to the world.

I'm pretty sure $800 million could save quite a few lives, but you go off king.

[InkaUtexas 25942]

9 minutes ago, Wyatt Mann said:

If it was terrorism, will France's government admit it?

Yes, they would love to be able to use it to get the Yellow vests pissed at something else. 

[thrillhammer 683]

20 minutes ago, mycox said:

I have been and love architectural history. It's is/was an amazing place. 

but yet you don't think it should be rebuilt?

[wood 11225]

7 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Well to be fair sandal traffic and donkey carts on 6" thick granite cobbles aren't the same thing as  2,000 HP traffic on a maybe 4" asphalt road way affected by temperature.

It's the soil (black clay).

[Guest Lobo]

Our Clay is a ‘white’

[Rimbo 25936]

NEWS IN PHOTOS

Notre Dame Gargoyle Going To Stay As Still As Possible Until Arson Investigator Gone

[Post Oak 20213]

38 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

NEWS IN PHOTOS

Notre Dame Gargoyle Going To Stay As Still As Possible Until Arson Investigator Gone

So good

[mycox 582]

3 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

but yet you don't think it should be rebuilt?

Of course it should. I just think billionaires could do better donating to other non profit organizations. Take Bill Gates for example. 

I don't know. For all I know these guys already do donate to another organizations. Never mind, probably best for a different thread. 

[LongestHorn 759]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/gargoyle-687054a43d034a2a969f4a395c29c737

 

Gargoyle retopo model 10k + Normal map baked from 1 mio 

Notre Dame de Paris outdoor sculpture model that's VR ready

Edited April 17, 2019 by LongestHorn
Because your mother is a whore.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

7 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I saw an estimate of 10-15 years for total restoration.  But hey, that is significantly less than the 200 year original construction timeline.

Suck it, Middle Ages! 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19101]

Just go the "I'll buy 2 or 3 new LV purses/luggage sets" route.  High impact

I'm more of a Goyard girl, which is still independent.

[El Diablo 4232]

14 hours ago, Deej said:

I hear Geoff Ketchum has started a fund. 

Will there be a golf tournament?

[Wally Fairway 5550]

I don't know if this has already been posted, but I just found this site
(I'm going to wish I never found this because it looks like an awesome timewaster, and I do have some work to do)

It has 360° panoramas of many historical sites (maybe a catalog of World Heritage sites)
http://cuicui.be/

Here is the link to Notre Dame (click the arrow in the photo to go to various locations inside and outside of the cathedral)
http://cuicui.be/france-notre-dame-de-paris/

[Armybrat 40846]

9 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I'm more of a Goyard girl, which is still independent.

Gibson Girls ftw

[phdhorn 6224]

1 hour ago, El Diablo said:

Will there be a golf tournament?

Yes, but at the awards ceremony you have to stand and listen to Ketchum talk about his life for an hour and twenty minutes.

[phdhorn 6224]

Donations are now over $1B (I predicted $2B before they slowed down a page or so back).

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

16 hours ago, Wyatt Mann said:

If it was terrorism, will France's government admit it?

 The whole point of terrorism is that they want people to know it is terrorism. There’s no such thing as secret terrorism. 

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

Orlando Sentinel:

The Mouse is joining in the outpouring of support to rebuild the Notre Dame Cathedral in the aftermath of a devastating fire.

The Walt Disney Co. announced Wednesday it will donate $5 million to the cause.

“Notre Dame is a beacon of hope and beauty that has defined the heart of Paris and the soul of France for centuries, inspiring awe and reverence for its art and architecture and for its enduring place in human history,” the company’s CEO Bob Iger said in a statement.

The Associated Press reported nearly $1 billion has been raised from “ordinary worshippers” to “high-powered magnates around the world” to reconstruct the beloved cathedral.

[EastTexan 662]

I remember as a young lad being very disappointed when I learned that the "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" was not about football.

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

So the question is:  

Is this a slavish historical restoration or do they re build using modern technology, materials, and re interpretive design concepts  ?  I'm not really sure I wanna see a Disneyesque recreation. I want to know what's original/old and what's post fire.

The main stone structure seems to have escaped structural failure, but I'm betting the heat has caused undiscovered issues.  What do they do with the roof ?  The long span timbers, and shaped bents needed on that roof aren't just laying around. Where does one source the acres of timber you'd need to reconstruct just the complex roof.

 

[gecko 1104]

The Pompidou Center is their guide

[Brisketexan 105140]

8 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

So the question is:  

Is this a slavish historical restoration or do they re build using modern technology, materials, and re interpretive design concepts  ?  I'm not really sure I wanna see a Disneyesque recreation. I want to know what's original/old and what's post fire.

The main stone structure seems to have escaped structural failure, but I'm betting the heat has caused undiscovered issues.  What do they do with the roof ?  The long span timbers, and shaped bents needed on that roof aren't just laying around. Where does one source the acres of timber you'd need to reconstruct just the complex roof.

 

[Bevo 13577]

1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

Gibson Girls ftw

Who are these people? Are they like the Cheetah Girls?

[phdhorn 6224]

1900's hot:

 

i.e. Brat's wheelhouse as he testified.

Edited April 17, 2019 by phdhorn

[Brisketexan 105140]

4 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

1900's hot:

 

i.e. Brat's wheelhouse as he testified.

The one on the right.....how YOU doin'?

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

6 minutes ago, gecko said:

The Pompidou Center is their guide

Doubtful, I hope.  I'd love to see a glass roof.  They'd have made it out of (strained) glass back in the day if they'd had the technology.

[bolverk 29672]

19 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

So the question is:  

Is this a slavish historical restoration or do they re build using modern technology, materials, and re interpretive design concepts  ?  I'm not really sure I wanna see a Disneyesque recreation. I want to know what's original/old and what's post fire.

The main stone structure seems to have escaped structural failure, but I'm betting the heat has caused undiscovered issues.  What do they do with the roof ?  The long span timbers, and shaped bents needed on that roof aren't just laying around. Where does one source the acres of timber you'd need to reconstruct just the complex roof.

 

They've announced an international competition for the design of a new spire. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

7 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

1900's hot:

 

ask Brat for more info.

You know the one on the right is up for anal.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

7 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

1900's hot:

 

i.e. Brat's wheelhouse as he testified.

Trois, Un, Deux.

(Either method)

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Just now, bolverk said:

They've announced an international competition for the design of a new spire. 

Yep.  Glad to hear it, I think it should be more than just that though.  

I'll be looking into the competition guidelines.

[Brisketexan 105140]

1 minute ago, bolverk said:

They've announced an international competition for the design of a new spire. 

Aggy already sent in their submission.

[bolverk 29672]

Just now, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yep.  Glad to hear it, I think it should be more than just that though.  

I'll be looking into the competition guidelines.

You know this means that if you decide to join the design competition, you're now obligated to show it to us here on surly.

[phdhorn 6224]

Looks like she's getting it right there.

[Brisketexan 105140]

Just now, bolverk said:

You know this means that if you decide to join the design competition, you're now obligated to show it to us here on surly.

It needs to be something classically French.  A slender Gauloise, with an orange light at the tip?  A statue of a striking transit worker?  A dropped rifle?

[jimmyjazz 45955]

Somebody inform Thujone about this design competition, please.