Breaking news - Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on fire

[davidg 4040]

1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

They were up close and personal with the Rose Window. One interesting nugget is that stained glass is only made up of glass from the 13th century and the 19th century. There was no updated/renovated glass in that window for more than 500 years.

I took it that the 19th century renovations removed all other years glass except what was original 13th century and then remade panels for those pieces and that was why only glass from those two era’s.  

 

[Eskimohorn 5657]

That’s awesome. We gotta burn down more churches.

[27-25 2060]

Great video.  Still not a fan of using lead for the roof again.  I realize they want to maintain historical accuracy.  But lead in this day and age?  I would draw the line there.

[gsoda3 3311]

Great video.  Still not a fan of using lead for the roof again.  I realize they want to maintain historical accuracy.  But lead in this day and age?  I would draw the line there.

What's wrong with lead roofing?

[Upgrayedd 5826]

5 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

6 hours ago, 27-25 said:

Great video.  Still not a fan of using lead for the roof again.  I realize they want to maintain historical accuracy.  But lead in this day and age?  I would draw the line there.

What's wrong with lead roofing?

Runoff contains lead

[SamsCorner 395]

3 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

Runoff contains lead

Has there not been an advance in technology in the last 700 years? 

[SurlyGator 911]

42 minutes ago, SamsCorner said:

Has there not been an advance in technology in the last 700 years? 

Yes.  Lead-free roofing materials.

[After irth 1245]

The Historic New Orleans Collection has an interactive Notre Dame exhibit until March.  Was pretty damn impressive.

[RPM 26431]

11 hours ago, Post Oak said:

They are completely cleaning the centuries of candle smoke (and obviously fire smoke) from the limestone on the interior. 

I know the French don't like to wash, but god damn.

[gsoda3 3311]

3 hours ago, Upgrayedd said:

Runoff contains lead

does the runoff contain enough lead to cause concern?  i hadn't heard of issues with the old roof but maybe all the lead had leached out over 700 years?

[27-25 2060]

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

does the runoff contain enough lead to cause concern?  i hadn't heard of issues with the old roof but maybe all the lead had leached out over 700 years?

The video above mentioned the problem with lead dust.  It's one of the things holding up other restoration work.  I read elsewhere that the powers that be who decided to go with a lead roof to maintain historical consistency boasted that the new runoff system will have some mechanism in place to catch and filter water.

So everyone seems to agree that lead is a health problem.  There is a slight runoff risk that will be mitigated.  The fire showed there is a great lead dust risk should another fire break out.

We don't generally insist on asbestos when renovating structures that used that in the past.  Historical accuracy should have limits of some kind.

[Horn_Spanker 524]

 

[Spaulding Smails 1568]

16 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

That’s awesome. We gotta burn down more churches.

Avatar checks out.

[deadshank 24653]

12 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

12 hours ago, 27-25 said:

Great video.  Still not a fan of using lead for the roof again.  I realize they want to maintain historical accuracy.  But lead in this day and age?  I would draw the line there.

What's wrong with lead roofing?

Nothing.  We use lead all the time in roofing.   
 

Lead roof drain liners, lead-coated copper, lead soaker sheets, lead soil vent covers, lead transition details and lead in solder.  

[Brisketexan 105626]

3 hours ago, deadshank said:

Nothing.  We use lead all the time in roofing.   
 

Lead roof drain liners, lead-coated copper, lead soaker sheets, lead soil vent covers, lead transition details and lead in solder.  

Yes, but now you're a drooling moron who frequently pisses himself.

I mean, I assume that's the case, since you're a Surly poster.....

[NeverMarryAStripper 22033]

That’s an insult to Surly posters. We shit ourselves, we don’t piss ourselves.

[ClubWhatever 12163]

I have lead cooking utentils.  Is that bad?

[NeverMarryAStripper 22033]

Not if you line them with asbestos

[deadshank 24653]

15 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yes, but now you're a drooling moron who frequently pisses himself.

I mean, I assume that's the case, since you're a Surly poster.....

Being a drooling moron was a prerequisite for entry into the roofing industry and not an effect of being in it and around lead. 

[Gatorubet 30431]

That’s an insult to Surly posters. We shit ourselves, we don’t piss ourselves.

Speak for yourself. If I’m shitting myself, I’m pissing myself.
And I might be fapping too.

[RDCanecutter 26561]

I grew up playing with paint chips in a house from the 1850s and they ain't nothin wrong with me NOR my great-granpappy's ghost.

Is that right 3-paw?

That's right boy.

[Dnaguy 12364]

8 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Speak for yourself. If I’m shitting myself, I’m pissing myself.
And I might be fapping too.

Ahhhh yes.

The ole evac-ejac.

[YGIFS 19453]

It’s the turducken of bodily functions

[Gatorubet 30431]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

It’s the turducken of bodily functions

[luke duke 6420]

What's wrong with lead roofing?

[BlueGreySky 1032]

On 12/18/2022 at 12:35 PM, Gatorubet said:

Speak for yourself. If I’m shitting myself, I’m pissing myself.
And I might be fapping too.

That's a true SEC triple threat-right there.

[Gatorubet 30431]

3 hours ago, BlueGreySky said:

That's a true SEC triple threat-right there.

Nah.  Just my Oregon State bowl experience on TV.

[YGIFS 19453]

14 hours ago, luke duke said:

It's from our Bag O'-line.  (adjusts tie), you know the kids love this.  Bag O'-Lead Paint Chips.  You know?  The kids learn about heavy metals, periodic table, what-not.  It's great, ya' know ? (adjusts tie).  Look, we're just packaging what the kids want.

[Wally Pryor 5315]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/08/world/video/notre-dame-bells-ring-ldn-digvid

[Wally Pryor 5315]

Meant to add this as well as the church prepares to re-open on December 7 & 8. Simply fantastic to see and outstanding work by all Parisians involved. 

https://www.barrons.com/news/post-fire-notre-dame-prepares-to-regain-past-glory-0a282e19

[jkates 316]

On 11/8/2024 at 3:35 PM, Wally Pryor said:

Meant to add this as well as the church prepares to re-open on December 7 & 8. Simply fantastic to see and outstanding work by all Parisians involved. 

https://www.barrons.com/news/post-fire-notre-dame-prepares-to-regain-past-glory-0a282e19

Thank you for sharing. 

[Wally Pryor 5315]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/restored-notre-dame-unveiled-with-grand-tour-led-by-macron/ar-AA1uYPSI

[Wally Pryor 5315]

60 Minutes feature last night:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/notre-dame-restorations-paris-fire-macron-60-minutes/

[Fudge Nuggets 19283]

Fuck Notre Dame.  Their loss to Northern Illinois and that weak ass schedule should keep them out of the playoffs.

[NeverMarryAStripper 22033]

Well, their restoration cost almost a billion dollars so you would think for that amount of money they  could get into the playoffs

[High Plains Drifter 11063]

 

Was in paris two summers ago. The amount of scaffolding on the outside of notre dame was insane. I have pictures somewhere. I'll see if I can find them. 

 

Saw job posting in both paris and london for "scaffoldeurs." 

Seems the euros love them some scaffolding, but really hate cherry pickers.