Breaking news - Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on fire

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

11 minutes ago, bolverk said:

You know this means that if you decide to join the design competition, you're now obligated to show it to us here on surly.

If I win y'all will be the first to be notified....  Already started a bit of research on the topic. Lots of factors, history, iconography, symbolism (religious and cultural), structural systems, cost, materials, style.  The new spire should say something thru symbolism about the fire.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Onboard 2.0

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1 hour ago, phdhorn said:

Yes, but at the awards ceremony you have to stand and listen to Ketchum talk about his life for an hour and twenty minutes.

So a breakdown of the available buffets in and around Austin?

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49 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

So the question is:  

Is this a slavish historical restoration or do they re build using modern technology, materials, and re interpretive design concepts  ?  I'm not really sure I wanna see a Disneyesque recreation. I want to know what's original/old and what's post fire.

The main stone structure seems to have escaped structural failure, but I'm betting the heat has caused undiscovered issues.  What do they do with the roof ?  The long span timbers, and shaped bents needed on that roof aren't just laying around. Where does one source the acres of timber you'd need to reconstruct just the complex roof.

 

Architects can be annoying.  So simply rebuilding what was there is sniffed at as 'Disneyesque'?  So hoi polloi.  The kind of attitude that wants to replace Storm Trooper white with Oregon style abominations.

Thank goodness Frank Gehry isn't French.

Edited April 17, 2019 by clapclapclap

[jimmyjazz 45,877]

Yeah, my hatred for architects exceeds my hatred of beets.  I do, however, hate ISIS slightly more than I hate architects.

#huh?

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36 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

1900's hot:
 

i.e. Brat's wheelhouse as he testified.

I'm presuming Brat okayed you posting pictures of his granddaughters

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2 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

This is why many hate architects.  So simply rebuilding what was there is sniffed at as 'Disneyesque'?  So hoi polloi.  The kind of attitude that wants to replace Storm Trooper white with Oregon style abominations.

Thank goodness Frank Gehry isn't French.

No, that's not what I mean. I don't want to walk into a historical site and see a slavish recreation of a building that once stood there.  Using the style, language, materials, and scale are all things to be considered when renovations and or additions to old structures are designed.  Providing visual cues that they aren't original, but still compliment and maintain the original design intent is part of the challenge.

In most residential historical districts they discourage and sometime flat out reject slavishly carried out additions and renovations to older homes that make it impossible to tell old from new.  I work on a few of these each year. Maintaining an architectural fabric that speaks to the original structure, but allows for a modern interpretation to clearly define old from new is what they want typically.  

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53 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Aggy already sent in their submission.

On the top could be a small Martin Luther or a Templar. Ya know, for history's sake 

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55 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It needs to be something classically French.  A slender Gauloise, with an orange light at the tip?  A statue of a striking transit worker?  A dropped rifle?

A giant croquembouche

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

Well if it's gonna be French, a giant champagne bottle, topped with a popping, rakishly angled cork.

[phdhorn 6,224]

On 4/15/2019 at 8:38 PM, BlueGreySky said:

The tower is close to 4 miles away from Notre Dame.   That seems shopped.

Check out Eiffel's assistant's first sketch of the Tower.  Looks pretty much to scale, judging by this (Notre Dame is on bottom right)!

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Funny, what's the top building ?  it's not the Bastille ?

[Brisketexan 105,043]

5 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Well if it's gonna be French, a giant champagne bottle, topped with a popping, rakishly angled cork.

Not bad.

But, if we're gonna go with a sculpture of a French icon, I have a personal suggestion, based on my very particular weakness.....

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

Not bad.

But, if we're gonna go with a sculpture of a French icon, I have a personal suggestion, based on my very particular weakness.....

Drape her around the bottle.....

[Brisketexan 105,043]

3 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Drape her around the bottle.....

We definitely need to workshop this....

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

We definitely need to photoshop this....

This ^^^

Paging Ramjet.......

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1 hour ago, phdhorn said:

1900's hot:

 

i.e. Brat's wheelhouse as he testified.

middle is not impressed

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7 minutes ago, elfenix said:

middle is not impressed

Seems to be related to my wife

[InkaUtexas 25,853]

2 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Seems to be related to my wife

Rules man...   

[Bevo 13,559]

20 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Seems to be related to my wife

Pics of soon to be ex?

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22 hours ago, gecko said:

 

Thoughts and prayers

[Pato del Muerto 52,484]

I went to Paris looking for answers to questions that bothered me so

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Anyone see this?  Looks like the French saved their cock.

 

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I went to Paris looking for answers to questions that bothered me so

I bet you're impressive, maybe young and aggressive?  Probably want to save the word on your own too.

[LongestHorn 759]

Let's start by making the two towers of the cathedral the same size as the one on the right is clearly smaller.

[Parliament 14,227]

And it's leaning over.

[Wally Fairway 5,539]

1 hour ago, LongestHorn said:

Let's start by making the two towers of the cathedral the same size as the one on the right is clearly smaller.

Perspective dude, you should get some

[phdhorn 6,224]

1 hour ago, LongestHorn said:

Let's start by making the two towers of the cathedral the same size as the one on the right is clearly smaller.

That's by design.  Almost every cathedral is like that.  The towers are designed to be asymmetrical.  Do you know why?

Edit in case my sarcasm meter needs adjustment...

Edited April 17, 2019 by phdhorn

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Because Jesus wanted us to make sure the part about hating gays was our big takeaway from the Bible? 

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1 hour ago, LongestHorn said:

Let's start by making the two towers of the cathedral the same size as the one on the right is clearly smaller.

Also, a little too goth, don't you think?  New ones should be less goth.

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18 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

That's by design.  Almost every cathedral is like that.  The towers are designed to be asymmetrical.  Do you know why?

I do not.  

[phdhorn 6,224]

One tower always represents Adam, the other tower always represents Eve. Of course Eve being a woman and a shitty driver and doing stupid shit meriting a separate thread, her tower is always smaller.

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On 4/16/2019 at 6:37 AM, Onboard 2.0 said:

With a Starbucks ......

Here we go with the money changers bit again... You know what happened the last time.

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That sounds like something an architect would say after failing to make them symmetrical.  

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2 minutes ago, LongestHorn said:

That sounds like something an architect would say after failing to make them symmetrical.  

He can just blame it on the contractors or he "ran out of money" an re-bid to make them equal.

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4 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

He can just blame it on the contractors or he "ran out of money" an re-bid to make them equal.

so CM2Hill is in charge of rebuilding already? 

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1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

so CM2Hill is in charge of rebuilding already? 

Probably.  I just saw an article where the City of Austin did this big expensive study of changing some city agency and among the recommendations is that it would need to change 240 light bulbs, but that it would take a year and cost a few thousand dollars.  No question they got the original Notre Dame contract... maybe they're working with CM2Hill and should have it done by 6743... if Jesus isn't fed up with the project and comes back first.

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6 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

If I win y'all will be the first to be notified....  Already started a bit of research on the topic. Lots of factors, history, iconography, symbolism (religious and cultural), structural systems, cost, materials, style.  The new spire should say something thru symbolism about the fire.

If you work in some 4loko imagery it might help your cause. I think it used to be the official beverage of the 4th arrondissement. 

[phdhorn 6,224]

Inevitable... First Official "I See Jeeezusssss In The Fire!!!11!" pic.  Lady claims to see Our Lord and Savior hanging around the conflagration, twit-ters blowz up "Yes YES I SEE HIM!!!"  The Second Person of the Triune God in the red circle:

Maybe, but he seems like His head is 21 sizes too small for that NBA Shawn Bradley corpus.

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They should use the services of the architect behind this masterpiece.

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6 minutes ago, Errestaurants said:

They should use the services of the architect behind this masterpiece.

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I’m an Eva Green man myself, but I’ll allow it.

[Brisketexan 105,043]

I’m an Eva Green man myself, but I’ll allow it.

Ill definitely allow Eva green. But you know me, I love the classics. So, Deneuve.

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35 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I’m an Eva Green man myself, but I’ll allow it.

Me too. And I can tell you that she was designed by the devil.

 

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I'll allow it.

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10 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

No, that's not what I mean. I don't want to walk into a historical site and see a slavish recreation of a building that once stood there.  Using the style, language, materials, and scale are all things to be considered when renovations and or additions to old structures are designed.  Providing visual cues that they aren't original, but still compliment and maintain the original design intent is part of the challenge.

In most residential historical districts they discourage and sometime flat out reject slavishly carried out additions and renovations to older homes that make it impossible to tell old from new.  I work on a few of these each year. Maintaining an architectural fabric that speaks to the original structure, but allows for a modern interpretation to clearly define old from new is what they want typically.  

Why do you hate Slavs?

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That one is fake too.  The moon is the size of Jupiter in that one.

That’s no moon...

[Trey3216 15,343]

Eva Green looks best in ‘Kingdom of Heaven’, which is historically inaccurate but a movie I enjoy.    

 

Fight me 

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[woohorn 1,131]

Yeah, my hatred for architects exceeds my hatred of beets.  I do, however, hate ISIS slightly more than I hate architects.
#huh?

BEES???

[jimmyjazz 45,877]

Pretty low to be extolling a tribal actress on a thread about a Catholic cathedral.

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4 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Eva Green looks best in ‘Kingdom of Heaven’, which is historically inaccurate but a movie I enjoy.    

 

Fight me 

That the one where she nekkid?