Your unpopular food opinions

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

I’ve had Cincinnati Chili that I like. Only problem being it’s not actually chili. 

[BurntOrange&White 41682]

7 hours ago, castolon said:

It's odd to me that people have strong opinions about food service companies, but here we are. My opinion of them depended on where my various family members were working at the time. They worked for all of them. Free samples of assorted fried shit at all times didn't suck in high school. 

Yeah you sound like  US Foods, kind of guy. 

[elfenix 34662]

10 hours ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

I’ve had Cincinnati Chili that I like. Only problem being it’s not actually chili. 

it's greek meat sauce.  if they called it that it'd be less objectionable.

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

I don't have any hang up about the definition of chili like Texans do, but I think the cinnamon/clove thing and noodles is the weird ass part about Cincinnati Chili.

I could get over the noodles if not for the cinnamon.  That's the real deal breaker.

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

On 3/19/2021 at 6:46 PM, Braff Zacklin said:

If you'll allow me to expound on that: "fresh" brisket is awesome, but I like it even more as repurposed leftovers--brisket tacos, brisket enchiladas, brisket quesadillas, and brisket ramen. They're all fucking amazing and an improvement on something that is already great.

Brisket breakfast tacos on a Sunday after smoking the brisket on a Saturday is about as good as it gets.

Especially if you make smoked queso and put those on the brisket tacos.

[SimonBolivar 11040]

18 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I don't have any hang up about the definition of chili like Texans do, but I think the cinnamon/clove thing and noodles is the weird ass part about Cincinnati Chili.

I could get over the noodles if not for the cinnamon.  That's the real deal breaker.

Just like the kolache wars it was a brutal affair. 

Edited March 22, 2021 by SimonBolivar

[utee94 16071]

17 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I don't have any hang up about the definition of chili like Texans do, but I think the cinnamon/clove thing and noodles is the weird ass part about Cincinnati Chili.

I could get over the noodles if not for the cinnamon.  That's the real deal breaker.

I mean, adherence to a strict definition can be taken to silly, over-the-top extremes, but at some point words must have at least some stability in their definitions, or they become meaningless.

An extreme hypothetical-- If I need a spoon to eat my soup, and ask for a spoon, and a server brings me a fork because the definition of spoon has somehow relaxed or morphed over time, then it's going to be pretty useless to me in attempting to eat that soup.

More real-life, if I go to a restaurant that advertises BBQ, and they served grilled hamburgers and hot dogs, then it's similarly useless to me.

And if I go to a restaurant that advertises chili, and they serve me Greek spaghetti sauce over noodles, then it's not really doing me any good, either.

 

 

 

Edited March 22, 2021 by utee94

[elfenix 34662]

if you made a noodle dish with no egg, turkey, and american cheese, and called it carbonara, you'd be laughed off the internet.  but do the same shit with chili and people tell texans to calm down. 

[Deej 77677]

8 minutes ago, elfenix said:

if you made a noodle dish with no egg, turkey, and american cheese, and called it carbonara, you'd be laughed off the internet.  

 

[Ricky's one-hitter 9602]

At least the Garbage Plate has the decency to call it meat hot instead. Still awful, but not infringing on chili. 

 

[MrPhlegm 3413]

I mean, adherence to a strict definition can be taken to silly, over-the-top extremes, but at some point words must have at least some stability in their definitions, or they become meaningless.
An extreme hypothetical-- If I need a spoon to eat my soup, and ask for a spoon, and a server brings me a fork because the definition of spoon has somehow relaxed or morphed over time, then it's going to be pretty useless to me in attempting to eat that soup.

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

2 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I don't have any hang up about the definition of chili like Texans do, but I think the cinnamon/clove thing and noodles is the weird ass part about Cincinnati Chili.

I could get over the noodles if not for the cinnamon.  That's the real deal breaker.

Here in the Upper Plains, Sloppy Joes and Loose Meat Sandwiches (like you Iowans take pride in) are often called Barbeques or Barbeque Sandwiches.  Try to deny it, but even though it's a less commonly used term, it still happens.  I've got a hang up over that. My wife braces herself for my comments whenever someone says that or it appears on a menu (typically at local drive-in restaurants and theaters or at concession stands).

And yes, I know the difference between Sloppy Joes and Loose Meat Sandwiches (your favorite, I know...lol).

Edited March 22, 2021 by ImissWallyPryor
Loose, not lose

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

1 minute ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

Here in the Upper Plains, Sloppy Joes and Loose Meat Sandwiches (like you Iowans take pride in) are often called Barbeques or Barbeque Sandwiches.  Try to deny it, but even though it's a less commonly used term, it still happens.  I've got a hang up over that. My wife braces herself for my comments whenever someone says that or it appears on a menu (typically at local drive-in restaurants and theaters or at concession stands).

And yes, I know the difference between Sloppy Joes and Loose Meat Sandwiches (your favorite, I know...lol).

If I was ever going to lose Iowan points, it would be in my disregard for Maid Rites.  In our little corner of Iowa, Sloppy Joes are often referred to as Taverns.  That's what my wife's family calls them, and they have a killer recipe.  I've heard them referred to as Barbecues before too, but never really got the impression that anyone was confusing that for brisket and pulled pork.  Just a dumb name.

My previous crack was more about indignation over beans or other adjuncts that don't really change the flavor profile than taking umbrage with Cincinnati Chili.  Cincinnati Chili is weird and a different thing altogether.

[TwiceHorn 31996]

"Loose meat" is one of the most disgusting terms for food in the history of evar.  Followed closely by "force meat."

Shit, they're disgusting as sexual terms, too.

Edited March 22, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

"Loose meat" is one of the most disgusting terms for food in the history of evar.  Followed closely by "force meat."

Shit, they're disgusting as sexual terms, too.

I've never heard "force meat".  You have my interest.

Loose meats aren't disgusting, but they're awfully bland and extremely inconvenient to try and consume.  Sloppy Joes/Taverns/Whatever-it's-called-in-where-you're-from are at least bound together by sauce and harder to spill all over the damn place.

[956 Worldwide 35529]

5 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I've never heard "force meat".  You have my interest.

Loose meats aren't disgusting, but they're awfully bland and extremely inconvenient to try and consume.  Sloppy Joes/Taverns/Whatever-it's-called-in-where-you're-from are at least bound together by sauce and harder to spill all over the damn place.

Forcemeat is like a pate or a terrine.  The meat and fat completely mixed together into almost a paste, they can be fantastic. 

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Forcemeat is like a pate or a terrine.  The meat and fat completely mixed together into almost a paste, they can be fantastic. 

Oh, I'm in.  I've never had a true pate, but I love me some braunschweiger.

[956 Worldwide 35529]

7 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Oh, I'm in.  I've never had a true pate, but I love me some braunschweiger.

Goose and duck liver pates are my favorites.  Not as awesome as a pan seared full lobe of goose liver, but extremely good cold and spread on some crusty bread. 

[Covri 6366]

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I've never heard "force meat".  You have my interest.

Loose meats aren't disgusting, but they're awfully bland and extremely inconvenient to try and consume.  Sloppy Joes/Taverns/Whatever-it's-called-in-where-you're-from are at least bound together by sauce and harder to spill all over the damn place.

You just have to put enough ketchup and/or mustard on both sides of the bun and then smoosh it down real good to keep all the loose meat from falling out. Plus it gives it flavor because you’re right they are bland as fuck otherwise. 

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

2 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

If I was ever going to lose Iowan points, it would be in my disregard for Maid Rites.  In our little corner of Iowa, Sloppy Joes are often referred to as Taverns.  That's what my wife's family calls them, and they have a killer recipe.  I've heard them referred to as Barbecues before too, but never really got the impression that anyone was confusing that for brisket and pulled pork.  Just a dumb name.

My previous crack was more about indignation over beans or other adjuncts that don't really change the flavor profile than taking umbrage with Cincinnati Chili.  Cincinnati Chili is weird and a different thing altogether.

My mom had a great Sloppy Joe recipe she called Taverns (probably bled over to SD from IA).  However, true Taverns are what inspired Maid Rite. They were invented in Sioux City a few years before Maid Rite at a restaurant named (or renamed) Ye Olde Tavern.  Sloppy Joes are basically Taverns that have a sauce. Without a sauce to hold it together, they are loose meat sandwiches (a.k.a. Taverns). 
 

- Cliff Clavin

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

My mom had a great Sloppy Joe recipe she called Taverns (probably bled over to SD from IA).  However, true Taverns are what inspired Maid Rite. They were invented in Sioux City a few years before Maid Rite at a restaurant named (or renamed) Ye Olde Tavern.  Sloppy Joes are basically Taverns that have a sauce. Without a sauce to hold it together, they are loose meat sandwiches (a.k.a. Taverns). 
 
- Cliff Clavin

My wife’s “Tavern” recipe entails BBQ sauce, onions, chopped pickles, more vinegar, and mustard. I’m fond of just mixing in cheese and hot sauce and treating it like a chip dip.

We usually use ground venison too.

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

My wife’s “Tavern” recipe entails BBQ sauce, onions, chopped pickles, more vinegar, and mustard. I’m fond of just mixing in cheese and hot sauce and treating it like a chip dip.

We usually use ground venison too.

my mom’s had ground beef, onions, garlic, chili powder, ketchup, mustard, sugar (white or brown), vinegar, and salt & pepper. She would actually use tomato soup if we were low on ketchup. I’ve also used BBQ sauce in lieu of ketchup.

I like the chopped pickles idea. 

Edited March 22, 2021 by ImissWallyPryor
I still refuse to call it a BBQ.

[Braff Zacklin 13675]

4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

"Loose meat" is one of the most disgusting terms for food in the history of evar.  Followed closely by "force meat."

Shit, they're disgusting as sexual terms, too.

You thought of Hope Solo's roast beefy sarlac pit, didn't you?

Yeah, you did.

[Henry Hill 3156]

4 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I've never heard "force meat".  You have my interest.

Loose meats aren't disgusting, but they're awfully bland and extremely inconvenient to try and consume.  Sloppy Joes/Taverns/Whatever-it's-called-in-where-you're-from are at least bound together by sauce and harder to spill all over the damn place.

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

my mom’s had ground beef, onions, garlic, chili powder, ketchup, mustard, sugar (white or brown), vinegar, and salt & pepper. She would actually use tomato soup if we were low on ketchup. I’ve also used BBQ sauce in lieu of ketchup.
I like the chopped pickles idea. 

MIL always uses sugar, but I’ve convinced my wife there’s enough in the BBQ sauce so she’s dropped that from the recipe. A little cumin goes in too.

[Hate 20232]

[Chopper 17429]

I like nuts but nuts do not belong in chocolate chip cookies or in brownies. No matter what type of nut. 

[Hate 20232]

3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I like nuts but nuts do not belong in chocolate chip cookies or in brownies. No matter what type of nut. 

Absolutely.  Ice cream should never have nuts either. 

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2779]

Wrong. Tin Roof is one the best flavors made.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Both of y’all are wrong. Adam’s Pecan Pie ice cream was one of the greatest ice creams ever. I can’t believe they discontinued it.

[4th&Five 41908]

14 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Both of y’all are wrong. Adam’s Pecan Pie ice cream was one of the greatest ice creams ever. I can’t believe they discontinued it.

You and I are definitely its biggest fans. Good news is I cut my ice cream consumption by 90% when they quit making it. 

[Hate 20232]

Pecans are gross. When I was a kid my best friend's grandma had a huge pecan tree in her backyard.  We'd eat pecans all day long. I wasn't paying attention one day and threw a rotten one in with the others and ended up puking up all the pecans I had been eating.  I haven't been able to eat the since. 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

You and I are definitely its biggest fans. Good news is I cut my ice cream consumption by 90% when they quit making it. 

Hahaha absolutely.

[castolon 193]

You and I are definitely its biggest fans. Good news is I cut my ice cream consumption by 90% when they quit making it. 

Ice cream just hasn’t hit the same since

[RollLeft 5089]

we definitely need a "wtf" emoji.

[tigol 2470]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

You and I are definitely its biggest fans. Good news is I cut my ice cream consumption by 90% when they quit making it. 

That shit was like crack.  I'm glad they cut me off.

[Chopper 17429]

Fruit cream or butter cream does not belong in the center of a ball of chocolate. Fruit cream or butter cream also does not belong inside a donut UNLESS it's on top, in which case it would be a danish.

Edited March 23, 2021 by Chopper

[MrPhlegm 3413]

I like nuts but nuts do not belong in chocolate chip cookies or in brownies. No matter what type of nut. 

peeeee-caaaans

[elfenix 34662]

1 hour ago, MrPhlegm said:

peeeee-caaaans

[52-80 19374]

cakes shouldnt be creamy or velvety they should be fluffy and spongy, and almost always chocolate

[956 Worldwide 35529]

7 hours ago, Hate said:

Pecans are gross. When I was a kid my best friend's grandma had a huge pecan tree in her backyard.  We'd eat pecans all day long. I wasn't paying attention one day and threw a rotten one in with the others and ended up puking up all the pecans I had been eating.  I haven't been able to eat the since. 

Understandable, but pecans are objectively not gross if you haven't thrown up a batch. Pecans in ice cream are a win as are pecan toppings on brownies.  I can take or leave them in cookies. 

[Mo Horn 8933]

My philosophy on nuts in anything chocolate. The nut is somewhere chocolate could be, but isn't. I love all types of nuts, but unless it's a nut pie, candied nuts, brittle etc., they don't belong in anything having to do with dessert. 

[956 Worldwide 35529]

For me almonds and dark chocolate are perfect for each other. The bitterness of the chocolate and almonds plus crunch and texture go perfect together.  Almond M&Ms are the second best M&Ms after peanut butter.  Also love crushed nuts on top of a sundae. 

[52-80 19374]

dark chocolate + sea salt = $

[Ricky's one-hitter 9602]

This sounds delicious

 

 

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

On the nut topic, peanut butter and pickle sandwiches slam. 

[4th&Five 41908]

5 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

On the nut topic, peanut butter and pickle sandwiches slam. 

PB on a burger as well.

[Al_4_ISU 12612]

11 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

PB on a burger as well.

I've seen it at a lot of places over the last decade, but never pulled the trigger.  I don't think it would be bad, it's just not what I'm normally looking for.

[Braff Zacklin 13675]

3 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

My philosophy on nuts in anything chocolate. The nut is somewhere chocolate could be, but isn't. I love all types of nuts, but unless it's a nut pie, candied nuts, brittle etc., they don't belong in anything having to do with dessert. 

I dunno. Take regular M&Ms--very meh. But add a peanut and they're amazing, crack-laced, diabetes-causing, non-stop-munching munchables.

[Js1 86997]

15 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I've seen it at a lot of places over the last decade, but never pulled the trigger.  I don't think it would be bad, it's just not what I'm normally looking for.

It's really not that terrible.  Creamy is a good sub for mayo/aioli if you want creaminess or the crunchy gives you a great texture. 

Great with bacon.  I usually skip the cheese though - pb and cheese is a weird combo.