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6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

And the Palestinians are not interested in peace with Israel. In fact, the leader of their ruling party does not even concede their right to exist

Are your saying Hamas?  You should know this is a lie. 

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We shall not waive an inch of the Palestinian home soil, no matter what the recent pressures are and no matter how long the occupation," Meshaal said as he revealed the document to the public after two years of work.

Do you have a more recent quote from Meshaal on Isreal? Or has he stepped down?

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Here’s what Haniyeh has to say about Israel 

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"United Jerusalem is Arab and Muslim, and it is the capital of the state of Palestine, all of Palestine," he said, referring to territory including Israel as well as the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip and the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

 

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9 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Do you have a more recent quote from Meshaal on Isreal? Or has he stepped down?

I told you earlier, Hamas has agreed to the 1967 borders for the Palestinian State. 

“Hamas considers the establishment of a Palestinian state, sovereign and complete, on the basis of the June 4, 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital and the provision for all the refugees to return to their homeland is an agreeable form that has won a consensus among all the movement members," Meshaal said.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/hamas-accepts-palestinian-state-1967-borders-170501114309725.html

Has Israel agreed to the 1967 borders for the creation of a Palestinian state? 

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We shall not waive an inch of the Palestinian home soil, no matter what the recent pressures are and no matter how long the occupation," Meshaal said as he revealed the document to the public after two years of work.

 

"Hamas rejects any idea except liberating the home soil entirely and completely, although it does not necessarily mean we recognise the Zionist entity or give up any of our Palestinian rights."

This is what he said when they released their agreement to the 67 boarders. Seems like they might not actually plan on sticking to those terms. But hey why not trust them right?

 

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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

This is what he said when they released their agreement to the 67 boarders. Seems like they might not actually plan on sticking to those terms. But hey why not trust them right?

 

So if you know that, annex the occupied territories and make it official.

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1 minute ago, Fozzz said:

Where has Israel agreed to the 1967 borders?  

More importantly why would Israel agree to go back to the 1967 borders?  I mean there's no doubt that if Israel gave the Palestinians that, that would be enough, right?  Giving Palastinians things has worked out so well for Israel in the past.  Not to mention the fact that Israel rightfully won that land in a war they didn't start and is under no obligation to anyone to return it to a state that wishes all Jews dead.

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look so now you admit you support apartheid? Or would you prefer more ethnic cleansing?

Apartheid would mean there is one state. Are you saying you are for a one state solution?

You aren’t suggesting that enforcing a sovereign border is apartheid are you?

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3 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

lmao they “rightfully” won those wars. Just like we “rightfully” won North America. 

You’re right. My great great grandparents were forcibly removed from good land in Mississippi to the Indian territories. The govt should give it back

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17 minutes ago, TxEx99 said:

Israel has a 21% Arab minority population.  What apartheid is going on there?

this is a common mistake, completely ignoring the west bank. In essence, Israel has been a one-state since the 1970s when the settler movement took off and Jewish civilians moved into Arab majority areas for all time. So a 2 state solution is no longer physically possible and the Arabs are denied political sovereignty first, completely controlled by Jews, and typecast as the villian. The apartheid exists because they are subject to a state that denies them all political rights. Ultimately the Jews are the boss and the Arabs have no control. 

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4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Links to Israeli suicide bombers

The IDF has bombed civilians for fun. 

“We bombed civilian targets for entertainment,” he said, adding that “one day at about 8am we went to the Al-Bureij; a highly dense residential area in central Gaza, and the commander told us to select a random target and shoot it, at the time we did not see any Hamas fighters, no one shot at us, but the commander told us jokingly: ‘We have to send Bureij a morning greeting from the Israeli army’.”

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20150506-israeli-soldier-we-bombed-civilian-targets-in-gaza-for-entertainment/

 

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everything changes in life. Israel was once a struggling state surrounded by hostile enemies. Now even Saudi Arabia sounds like an AIPAC convention, Egypt regularly screws the Gazans and their Arab brothers have completely abandoned them in favor of US $ and Israel political support (even a covert military pact).  Israel is now a brutal racist military thugocracy which deserves no sympathy, running an apartheid system while pretending to be the victim. Not sure what can be done, they control the Congress and the media. The future is very bleak for the Pals. 

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4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

My bad. I didn't realize Oklahoma City wasn't so bad since Tim McVeigh didn't off himself in the process.

No doubt zealots suck. You have zionists vs jihadists. I don’t know how you get a peaceful resolution 

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