Israel

[bolverk 29655]

To be clear, I don't have cable, but I can watch BBC World News from here. That's where I'm passing on information from.

https://thetvapp.to/tv/bbc-world-news-hd-live-stream/

They have someone on who is saying that Jordan is NOT a fan of Iran, and they feel like it's a nightmare to be caught between Iran and Israel. At the same time, they've been highly critical of Israel's action in Gaza, basically accusing them of genocide. That said, they're siding with Israel on this one.

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Iran about to feel the fist of God to their nuts 

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33 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

same account ..

Drones have been launched from other countries, along with cruise missiles from Iran.

[InkaUtexas 25861]

From Sky.

Iran says it has launched missiles at Israel

Iran has also launched missiles at Israel, its Revolutionary Guards has said.

In a statement quoted by state media, the branch of the Iranian Armed Forces said it has targeted specific places in Israel with dozens of drones and missiles. 

The Israeli military confirmed a salvo of drones had been launched from the country and could take "several hours" to arrive. 

Israeli media has reported the drones could start arriving at around 2am local time (12am UK time) but the missiles could arrive sooner. 

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[Brian Fantana 6680]

I'm sure everyone, including Western media, will interpret this in a completely rational way.

It's insane to deliberately provoke Iran in this way and not expect a response. Literally any country with the capability would respond in this way.

Really happy with Israel for drawing us into what looks to be a major regional conflict that's just begging to spread like wildfire.

[Brisketexan 105064]

 

The perfect encapsulation of the times we live in? The last reply in the string of posts about an unfolding war is from some chick with a “nudes in bio” message.

Gotta love humanity.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

The perfect encapsulation of the times we live in? The last reply in the string of posts about an unfolding war is from some chick with a “nudes in bio” message.

Gotta love humanity.

i clicked 3 times, no nudes 

 

[Fastbreak 3981]

The perfect encapsulation of the times we live in? The last reply in the string of posts about an unfolding war is from some chick with a “nudes in bio” message.

Gotta love humanity.

Link?

[Brian Fantana 6680]

Wings of Zion, of course that's the fucking name of the plane.

Maybe we shouldn't have begged China to beg Iran not to retaliate and instead maybe directly asked Israel to hold off on closing their eyes and doing a spray n pray on the region for a little while until shit isn't so hot.

[mchookem 16321]

sooo...escalating to a full scale regional war eh? 

 

[Brisketexan 105064]

I'm sure everyone, including Western media, will interpret this in a completely rational way.
It's insane to deliberately provoke Iran in this way and not expect a response. Literally any country with the capability would respond in this way.
Really happy with Israel for drawing us into what looks to be a major regional conflict that's just begging to spread like wildfire.

They didn’t “deliberately provoke Iran.” Iran has been waging a “proxy” war (and sometimes, really not bothering with the “proxy” part) against Israel for a long-ass time. Iranian backed strikes against Israel are a regular thing. Israel’s return strikes have NOT been to assets on Iranian soil. Objectively, Israel has been restrained with respect to Iran (note the qualifier - I am just speaking to Israel’s actions regarding Iran).
They hit Iranian assets hard last week. Iran wants to hit back. This shit was always going to happen. Sorry, the fucking burden here is on Iran. It has ZERO natural reason to be at war with Israel. It’s a psychotic islamofascist war they’ve been waging for deranged reasons. Fuck em.

[Brisketexan 105064]

Link?

The world is in flames…and ho’s gonna ho. This is the way.

[Leeroy Jenkins 2398]

Wiki says they have upgraded HAWKS.

They have had HAWKS for a long time. Their Air Defense C2 system is pretty old and needs to be updated.

[InkaUtexas 25861]

3 minutes ago, mchookem said:

sooo...escalating to a full scale regional war eh? 

 

Neither can really invade the other. Iran can use Hezbollah, maybe some groups in Syria. Israel can hit Iranian targets.

More of a tit for that using air forces. One thing Iran can do is fuck up the oil shipments from the Gulf.

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1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

One thing Iran can do is fuck up the oil shipments from the Gulf.

winner, winner chicken dinner !!!!!

[aggie08 21484]

9 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I think I'd take my chances with Iranian drones over boarding a plane that hasn't been off the ground in years.

[Brian Fantana 6680]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

They didn’t “deliberately provoke Iran.” Iran has been waging a “proxy” war (and sometimes, really not bothering with the “proxy” part) against Israel for a long-ass time. Iranian backed strikes against Israel are a regular thing. Israel’s return strikes have NOT been to assets on Iranian soil. Objectively, Israel has been restrained with respect to Iran (note the qualifier - I am just speaking to Israel’s actions regarding Iran).
They hit Iranian assets hard last week. Iran wants to hit back. This shit was always going to happen. Sorry, the fucking burden here is on Iran. It has ZERO natural reason to be at war with Iran. It’s a psychotic islamofascist war they’ve been waging for deranged reasons. Fuck em.

I don't disagree, but even Israel's own intel pointed to Iranian retaliation being extremely likely before they struck that embassy in Syria.

With all they've got going on, can they really stretch themselves far enough to escalate and sustain an external conflict right now?

My main issue is how many American weapons and dollars are being used here. That and everyone over there just being dead set on wiping each other out while we sit to the side and toss dollar bills like we just rolled up hood rich to Chicas Bonitas.

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[Brian Fantana 6680]

All that said, the real thing to watch is what OUR diplomats in Israel do. If they're staying put, this is probably not considered that much of a threat.

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1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

Yep, been watching that on Flight Radar. And still aircraft flying.

[InkaUtexas 25861]

Just now, Brian Fantana said:

All that said, the real thing to watch is what OUR diplomats in Israel do. If they're staying put, this is probably not considered that much of a threat.

You don't pull people out as it starts. We did not withdraw our critical staff since Gaza kicked off. We did announce no travel/movement.

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2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

You don't pull people out as it starts. We did not withdraw our critical staff since Gaza kicked off. We did announce no travel/movement.

i have a feeling they’re bunkered down 

[Brisketexan 105064]

I don't disagree, but even Israel's own intel pointed to Iranian retaliation being extremely likely before they struck that embassy in Syria.
With all they've got going on, can they really stretch themselves far enough to escalate and sustain an external conflict right now?
My main issue is how many American weapons and dollars are being used here. That and everyone over there just being dead set on wiping each other out while we sit to the side and toss dollar bills like we just rolled up hood rich to Chicas Bonitas.

I don’t disagree with questioning the strategic decision to really open the can of worms with Iran, but I actually think that taking the war to Iran would have been a wiser move to begin with. Iran financed and trained Hamas terrorists. There was a direct link between Iran and the Oct 7 attacks (even though Iran apparently didn’t fully know what its proxy had planned). An actual declaration of war by Israel against Iran would have been justified by most applicable principles of international law.
Go after the specific terrorists in Gaza who committed the war crimes. And take the war to Iran. That would have been a more sound strategy.
Iran has long wanted a full war with Israel. Seems they may be getting it. And it’s one Israeli war where I’m just fine with us supplying them weapons.

i have a feeling they’re bunkered down 

I doubt they’re out getting shakshuka.

[Brian Fantana 6680]

I don't think either side wants open warfare with boots on the ground, unless we want Israel to go in I guess. Iran is ripe for another American sponsored regime change, I suppose. Surely this time it will work out great! /s

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[Brian Fantana 6680]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

And it’s one Israeli war where I’m just fine with us supplying them weapons.

I really don't agree with this. Cleaning up our mess by sponsoring hundreds of thousands, even millions more deaths is not exactly a road I want to go down again. We're already trying our best with that in Gaza.

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1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

I don't think either side wants open warfare with boots on the ground, unless we want Israel to go in I guess. Iran is ripe for another American sponsored regime change, I suppose. Surely this time it will work out great! /s

That was a point I made earlier. How are either going to get there?

[Brisketexan 105064]

I don't think either side wants open warfare with boots on the ground, unless we want Israel to go in I guess. Iran is ripe for another American sponsored regime change, I suppose. Surely this time it will work out great! /s

I’d prefer that the Iranian people took control of their destiny. But if they’re intent on being a psychotic islamofascist regime launching attack after attack (don’t forget that Oct 7 was by Iranian backed and trained Hamas), then fuck em. Regime change? IDGAF. Let the people pick a new regime after this regime is killed where they sleep.

[Brian Fantana 6680]

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

That was a point I made earlier. How are either going to get there?

Yeah it seems an impossible war from a logistical standpoint, at least from a boots on the ground perspective.

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[Brisketexan 105064]

I really don't agree with this. Cleaning up our mess by sponsoring hundreds of thousands, even millions more deaths is not exactly a road I want to go down again. We're already trying our best with that in Gaza.

So…Israel should just continue to let Iran finance, train, and launch attacks on Israeli territory and people over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.
The universal law of FAFO eventually gets triggered.
Iran should stop attacking Israel. It’s never had a good reason to do so. And I’ve long thought that Israel was more restrained than any other nation state on earth would be in its response.
Imagine if Belgium financed, trained, and launched attacks against Poland. Poland long ago would have brought the thunder to Belgium, and rightfully so.
Iran is a shit state doing shit things. This was always going to happen.

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57 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Jordan has announced that their air defense will help in shooting shit down. I have no idea their capabilities.

That was my question. Does Israel need Jordan's help? This is like me helping Ryan Gosling pick up women.

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1 minute ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

That was my question. Does Israel need Jordan's help? This is like me helping Ryan Gosling pick up women.

Jordan and the US forces (present in Jordan, Syria, and Iraq) are between Israel and Iran. Maybe not a lot of these slow-ass drones even make it Israel?

I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to the technical details though.

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3 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

That was my question. Does Israel need Jordan's help? This is like me helping Ryan Gosling pick up women.

Why wouldn’t it take AAC help from a neighboring country with the bombs and drones going directly in its air space?  Jordan and Israel both have a vested interest in Jordan participating how they can. 

[InkaUtexas 25861]

Agree. More the merrier.

[Brian Fantana 6680]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I’d prefer that the Iranian people took control of their destiny. But if they’re intent on being a psychotic islamofascist regime launching attack after attack (don’t forget that Oct 7 was by Iranian backed and trained Hamas), then fuck em. Regime change? IDGAF. Let the people pick a new regime after this regime is killed where they sleep.

 

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So…Israel should just continue to let Iran finance, train, and launch attacks on Israeli territory and people over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.
The universal law of FAFO eventually gets triggered.
Iran should stop attacking Israel. It’s never had a good reason to do so. And I’ve long thought that Israel was more restrained than any other nation state on earth would be in its response.
Imagine if Belgium financed, trained, and launched attacks against Poland. Poland long ago would have brought the thunder to Belgium, and rightfully so.
Iran is a shit state doing shit things. This was always going to happen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for getting rid of the Mullahs, but miss me with mowing down a million civvies to get it done because that's the MO for this type of thing. Pouring one out for Iraq.

It's kind of a moot point anyway because Israel can't roll boots into Iran and force regime change (if they even care to do so, which is debatable). It would be the catalyst for a complete bloodbath in the region and it would be a highly impractical and costly war.

With that said, and assuming I'm right, what's the recourse? I can't see a whole lot of situations where we don't end up being drawn into a shooting war on Iranian soil with American boots on the ground should this escalate into direct warfare.

If there's something this country and the world really doesn't need right at this moment, it's that.

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Just now, Rex Kramer said:

Why wouldn’t it take AAC help from a neighboring country with the bombs and drones going directly in its air space?  Jordan and Israel both have a vested interest in Jordan participating how they can. 

American Airlines Center? 

[HornOnTheBayou 8905]

That's fair. I just wasn't sure how much of a game changer Jordan's help would be. 

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12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So…Israel should just continue to let Iran finance, train, and launch attacks on Israeli territory and people over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.
The universal law of FAFO eventually gets triggered.
Iran should stop attacking Israel. It’s never had a good reason to do so. And I’ve long thought that Israel was more restrained than any other nation state on earth would be in its response.
Imagine if Belgium financed, trained, and launched attacks against Poland. Poland long ago would have brought the thunder to Belgium, and rightfully so.
Iran is a shit state doing shit things. This was always going to happen.

well no

I don't know which is higher (1) Iran's stupidity (2) Iran's delusions of grandeur 

Edited April 13 by Make em eat Taco Bell

[InkaUtexas 25861]

Iran says it will target any country that opens its airspace for an Israeli attack against Iran

From CNN's Hamdi Alkhshali and Adam Pourahmadi

Iran's Defense Minister Brig. Gen. Mohammad Reza Ashtiani issued a stark warning to any country that allows Israel to utilize its airspace or territory for attacking Iran, saying they will face a “decisive response” from Iran.

“Any country that opens its airspace or soil to Israel to attack Iran will receive our decisive response,” state news IRNA reported, quoting Ashtiani.

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[bolverk 29655]

3 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

American Airlines Center? 

I'm assuming it's Anti-AirCraft.

Acronyms get thrown around way too often on this site.

[InkaUtexas 25861]

Iranian state news reports first wave of ballistic missiles fired toward Israel

From CNN's Hamdi Alkhshali and Adam Pourahmadi

Iranian state news IRNA reported that the first barrage of ballistic missiles has been launched toward Israel, citing an informed Iranian source.

[bolverk 29655]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

Iran says it will target any country that opens its airspace for an Israeli attack against Iran

From CNN's Hamdi Alkhshali and Adam Pourahmadi

Iran's Defense Minister Brig. Gen. Mohammad Reza Ashtiani issued a stark warning to any country that allows Israel to utilize its airspace or territory for attacking Iran, saying they will face a “decisive response” from Iran.

“Any country that opens its airspace or soil to Israel to attack Iran will receive our decisive response,” state news IRNA reported, quoting Ashtiani.

Well, we know that Iraq and Jordan have closed theirs. I doubt Saudi and Turkey want Iranian shit flying above. So, really, that just leaves Syria/Lebanon, which is back to Square 1.

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

Iranian state news reports first wave of ballistic missiles fired toward Israel

From CNN's Hamdi Alkhshali and Adam Pourahmadi

Iranian state news IRNA reported that the first barrage of ballistic missiles has been launched toward Israel, citing an informed Iranian source.

12 minutes, right?

[Sawbonz 27537]

3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Iran says it will target any country that opens its airspace for an Israeli attack against Iran

From CNN's Hamdi Alkhshali and Adam Pourahmadi

Iran's Defense Minister Brig. Gen. Mohammad Reza Ashtiani issued a stark warning to any country that allows Israel to utilize its airspace or territory for attacking Iran, saying they will face a “decisive response” from Iran.

“Any country that opens its airspace or soil to Israel to attack Iran will receive our decisive response,” state news IRNA reported, quoting Ashtiani.

[South Austin 52449]

As an American, I’m starting to feel left out. We should attack a country, say Portugal. Their language always sounded weird to me.

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