Israel

[zork 629]

3 minutes ago, NowThis said:

the question is not whether Israel can be defeated, but are they right to attack Israeli Jews, which of course they are. 

War sucks but is what it is in that region.  I agree that war, in my opinion, is happening now and has been.  Maybe the next rocket attack will turn the tide?

 

[Thetexashammer 1062]

4 hours ago, NowThis said:

it's not because they are Jewish. Besides, wtf are you talking about? 

The discussion is genocide. You said it was their fault. You're fucking sick.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

1 hour ago, NowThis said:

the question is not whether Israel can be defeated, but are they right to attack Israeli Jews, which of course they are. 

Great.  They should keep it up. It’s  working well.  

[NowThis 931]

40 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Great.  They should keep it up. It’s  working well.  

 

53 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

The discussion is genocide. You said it was their fault. You're fucking sick.

i so love the redneck tards for amusement.   It is the Jews fault but they are not the enemy simply because they are Jews (anti-semitism) . Once you overcome this simple mental block in your redneck head, things will clear up. 

[zork 629]

9 minutes ago, NowThis said:

 

i so love the redneck tards for amusement.   It is the Jews fault but they are not the enemy simply because they are Jews (anti-semitism) . Once you overcome this simple mental block in your redneck head, things will clear up. 

If the HAMAS led group of Palestinians were to somehow gain the training, weaponry, and soldiers enough to retake the land to the '67 borders do you think they would stop there?

[Asithappens 974]

I heard that there is some kind of mid-east economic "summit" in which Jared will be involved (a joke to be sure), and the Palestinians have refused to attend and have rejected anything before any details have been released. It probably is a bullshit summit, but it's like the Palestinians enjoy being wearing the mantel of victim. If things improve, then how will they be able to blame the Israelis/Jews?

[NowThis 931]

Israeli Army Blamed Palestinians for Arson by Settlers. Then a Video Emerged

The Israeli military had originally claimed that only Palestinians set fire to West Bank fields, but changed versions after video released by NGO B'Tselem showed otherwis

 

 

 

[Asithappens 974]

Where's your video of Palestinians shooting rockets into Israel? 

Or are you not "fair and balanced"?

[hpslugga 4058]

1 hour ago, Asithappens said:

Where's your video of Palestinians shooting rockets into Israel? 

Or are you not "fair and balanced"?

Hideously argued non sequitur aside, it’s funny that you’re using a slogan of a propaganda rag when you refer to those projectiles as “rockets.”

Edited May 27, 2019 by hpslugga

[Chrispy 132]

1 hour ago, Asithappens said:

Where's your video of Palestinians shooting rockets into Israel? 

Or are you not "fair and balanced"?

He wants Jews exterminated. 

[Asithappens 974]

7 hours ago, hpslugga said:

Hideously argued non sequitur aside, it’s funny that you’re using a slogan of a propaganda rag when you refer to those projectiles as “rockets.”

Which propaganda rag is that?

[NowThis 931]

8 hours ago, Asithappens said:

Where's your video of Palestinians shooting rockets into Israel? 

Or are you not "fair and balanced"?

irony is this is fair and balanced.  The US media doesn't want to show Jews behaving badly, they are always the victims, when they have all the power.  IDF kills people who set fires to Israel farms, so can the Pals kill these Jewish bandits too?  Fair and balanced.

[Chooky 13307]

8 hours ago, Chrispy said:

He wants Jews exterminated. 

This is why you're viewed as a used adult diaper in this forum.  It has nothing to do with your opinions or political affiliation.  It's that you're a humorless, binary dipshit.  

[Chrispy 132]

24 minutes ago, Chooky said:

This is why you're viewed as a used adult diaper in this forum.  It has nothing to do with your opinions or political affiliation.  It's that you're a humorless, binary dipshit.  

[hpslugga 4058]

2 hours ago, Asithappens said:

Which propaganda rag is that?

The one that uses that “fair and balanced” tag line to qualify their useless drivel

[Asithappens 974]

9 hours ago, hpslugga said:

The one that uses that “fair and balanced” tag line to qualify their useless drivel

Really? Well then, I guess we need to call The NYT, WaPo, and The Economist propaganda rags as well.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/04/world/middleeast/gaza-rockets-israel.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/gazas-homemade-rockets-still-stretch-israels-sophisticated-defenses/2019/05/06/2ca3a46a-700c-11e9-9331-30bc5836f48e_story.html?utm_term=.78b7dfcb4392

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2019/05/11/israel-and-hamas-come-close-to-war

[Js1 85287]

First time PM-designate failed to put together a coalition after election 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Haha fuck you Bibi

[Biff Tannen 45665]

Someone explain the implications of this to me like I'm a 5 year old.

[Asithappens 974]

9 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Someone explain the implications of this to me like I'm a 5 year old.

Probably only this (WSJ):

As he faced defeat, Mr. Netanyahu successfully pressed parliament, known as the Knesset, to change tack to avoid allowing Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, a rival, to invite another lawmaker to form the government.

But in doing so, Mr. Netanyahu’s supporters likely won’t be able to pass a law giving him limited immunity from prosecution before a pre-trial hearing in October on potential charges of bribery, fraud and breach of trust. That could expose Mr. Netanyahu to a corruption trial if he becomes prime minister again.

[Js1 85287]

Yeah, Likud dissolved parliament to avoid Rivlin appointing someone else (read: not Bibi) to form a government instead.

September 17 would be the elections. 

[Zavala 1384]

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/06/06/we-dont-have-to-choose-between-dyke-and-jewish-identities/

[Asithappens 974]

Surprising we don't have the latest update blaming Israel for the rockets that the Palestinians are sending into Israel.

 

[Chrispy 132]

Now This is frantically checking in with Hamas for talking points. 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

2 hours ago, Asithappens said:

Surprising we don't have the latest update blaming Israel for the rockets that the Palestinians are sending into Israel.

 

They didn't want to do it.  Felt they owed it to them.

[NowThis 931]

the zios continue to destroy and provoke . Over the last few decades, hundreds of thousands of income producing trees have been chopped down or burned in a deliberate measure to ethnically cleanse the Arabs from areas. 

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/israel-to-destroy-2000-olive-trees-near-bethlehem/?fbclid=IwAR0H-PHNoiu34Ssli8dI_vFe11sLWmKboltdG0Ki0DqXSYecDkcRKJVSTAA

 

Israeli occupation authorities approved the destruction of thousands of trees between the western entrance of the town of Taqou’ and the entrance of the village of al-Minya, southeast of Bethlehem, in the occupied West Bank, said a local activist.

Israeli forces have recently stepped up their arbitrary measures against the town of Taqou, including the expropriation of land, closure of main entrances, and arrest of children and youth.

 

IDF sniper murders medic, shot in the face  https://daysofpalestine.com/post/12197/another-gaza-medic-killed-on-duty-by-israel-no-justice-expected-to-be-served

It was a difficult moment for the wife of Mohammad Al-Judaily when she heard that he had succumbed to his wounds. The paramedic was 37 years old when he was shot in the face by an Israeli sniper while providing first aid to participants in Gaza’s Great March of Return protests on 3 May.

 

[Asithappens 974]

Lol, "arbitrary" measures.

Yeah, why in the world would the Israelis protect themselves from bomb-throwing, rocket-launching Palestinians?

It's all so arbitrary.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

2 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Lol, "arbitrary" measures.

Yeah, why in the world would the Israelis protect themselves from bomb-throwing, rocket-launching Palestinians?

It's all so arbitrary.

Arbitrary measures ?  Are those like bottle rockets, spleen splitters, kitty killers, roman candles, Frog fraggers, sister sizzlers ?

[hpslugga 4058]

10 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Lol, "arbitrary" measures.

Yeah, why in the world would the Israelis protect themselves from bomb-throwing, rocket-launching Palestinians?

It's all so arbitrary.

Expropriating land has jack shit to do with "protecting themselves." You know better than that. 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

2 hours ago, hpslugga said:

Expropriating land has jack shit to do with "protecting themselves." You know better than that. 

Attack a country with the intent of annihilating that country and lose some land in the process?  Welp, play stupid games and win stupid prizes.  The Palestinians played a stupid game.  Got their ass kicked along with 5 other Arab countries, and lost land.  Fuck them.  They can move somewhere else.  Just like almost all jews located in Muslim countries have been forced to do.

[David Dennison 18850]

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

Attack a country with the intent of annihilating that country and lose some land in the process?  Welp, play stupid games and win stupid prizes.  The Palestinians played a stupid game.  Got their ass kicked along with 5 other Arab countries, and lost land.  Fuck them.  They can move somewhere else.  Just like almost all jews located in Muslim countries have been forced to do.

Palestinians will be in the Levant a lot longer than the nation state of Israel.

[Asithappens 974]

21 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Palestinians will be in the Levant a lot longer than the nation state of Israel.

Meaning what?

That Palestinians are like cockroaches?

Like Johnny said, play stupid games win stupid prizes. The Palestinians/Hamas don't seem to know any other type of game, unfortunately.

[David Dennison 18850]

1 minute ago, Asithappens said:

Meaning what?

That Palestinians are like cockroaches?

Like Johnny said, play stupid games win stupid prizes. The Palestinians/Hamas don't seem to know any other type of game, unfortunately.

Meaning Palestinians Arabs will live in the Levant after the modern nation state of Israel is long gone. Jews will be there, too. 

Edited June 17, 2019 by David Dennison

[bad_teammate 13192]

2 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

That Palestinians are like cockroaches?

Scratch an Israel-apartheid-apologist, find an ethnic cleansing advocate.

[David Dennison 18850]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Scratch an Israel-apartheid-apologist, find an ethnic cleansing advocate.

Palestinian terrorism: bad

Jewish terrorism: good

So weird.

[Asithappens 974]

24 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Palestinian terrorism: bad

Jewish terrorism: good

So weird.

Oh, I've never said that what the Israelis are doing (what you call terrorism) is good. Far from it.

What I've said is:

1) Israel has a right to defend itself, especially when surrounded by hostile Arab states, some of them calling for Israel to be wiped off the map;

2) Palestinians basically hate the US. The Palestinians are not a viable US ally in the region. They cheered when 9/11 happened. Literally cheered in the streets. 

3) The Palestinians are their own worst enemy. It's as if they can't imagine a scenario where they aren't the "persecuted" ones, where they don't have the Israelis to blame. 

[David Dennison 18850]

1 minute ago, Asithappens said:

Oh, I've never said that what the Israelis are doing (what you call terrorism) is good. Far from it.

What I've said is:

1) Israel has a right to defend itself, especially when surrounded by hostile Arab states, some of them calling for Israel to be wiped off the map;

2) Palestinians basically hate the US. The Palestinians are not a viable US ally in the region. They cheered when 9/11 happened. Literally cheered in the streets. 

3) The Palestinians are their own worst enemy. It's as if they can't imagine a scenario where they aren't the "persecuted" ones, where they don't have the Israelis to blame. 

Palestinians sound a lot like Israelis, according to number 3.

Edited June 17, 2019 by David Dennison

[Asithappens 974]

14 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Palestinians sound a lot like Israelis, according to number 3.

I have said that they are two sides of the same coin. 

Imo, anyway. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Disgusting 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Palestinians sound a lot like Israelis, according to number 3.

Boy you can pull some serious BS out of your ass.

[hpslugga 4058]

1 hour ago, Asithappens said:

Oh, I've never said that what the Israelis are doing (what you call terrorism) is good. Far from it.

What I've said is:

1) Israel has a right to defend itself, especially when surrounded by hostile Arab states, some of them calling for Israel to be wiped off the map;

It has a right to defend itself inside the internationally recognized, legal border. Their right to self-defense immediately terminates when they transgress that border to institute settlement blocs, to build walls to protect said settlement blocs, to install checkpoints in the West Bank, to impose a blockade on Gaza, etc. They have absolutely no right to do any of those things, and any manifestation of those things can never be couched in terms of self defense. A military occupier cannot possess a right of defense inside the territory it occupies, full stop.

1 hour ago, Asithappens said:

2) Palestinians basically hate the US. 

Can you blame them for that?

1 hour ago, Asithappens said:

3) The Palestinians are their own worst enemy. It's as if they can't imagine a scenario where they aren't the "persecuted" ones, where they don't have the Israelis to blame. 

You’re just spewing vulgar propaganda with this nonsense. You know better than that.

[Lagunamadre 1975]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Disgusting 

Trump is putty in Bibi's hands after this stunt. 

[retread 2951]

Quote

No new community named for U.S. President Donald Trump was actually established on Sunday in the Golan Heights. As even the founder of the Knesset caucus for the Golan, Kahol Lavan MK Zvi Hauser, observed: “Anyone who reads the fine print of the ‘historic’ decision understands that this is a conceptual decision. There is no funding. There is no planning. There is no location and there is really no committed decision. That’s what the ‘Israbluff’" – to borrow a term from Israeli comedy, avoiding a problem with a fictional solution – "of establishing of a new community in the Golan Heights looks like. Salah Shabati at his best,” he added, referring to the 1964 Israeli satire film.

Fitting.

[henrygandorf 29189]

1 hour ago, Lagunamadre said:

Trump is putty in Bibi's hands after this stunt. 

yep.  the scouting report on trump is out, and it's two sentences long.

[Lagunamadre 1975]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

yep.  the scouting report on trump is out, and it's two sentences long.

Two words. Faux flattery. 

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

4 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

yep.  the scouting report on trump is out, and it's two sentences long.

Two long sentences sounds nice. One for Trump and one for Netanyahu. 

[NowThis 931]

Haaretz, the leading liberal Israeli newspaper, stated this article was one of their most widely read of all time. Regarding the Israeli cover up of the Nakba, where hundreds of thousands of Arabs were forced from their homes in 1948. Given the article's popularity, posting it here. Enjoy!

 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-how-israel-systematically-hides-evidence-of-1948-expulsion-of-arabs-1.7435103?fbclid=IwAR3MChiSrR_uAf20t3-pRD6aTzBSfSCJAHrsFctemV3Xtw9eBwdN8MWnTFI

Burying the Nakba: How Israel Systematically Hides Evidence of 1948 Expulsion of Arabs

Since early last decade, Defense Ministry teams have scoured local archives and removed troves of historic documents to conceal proof of the Nakba

 

“Safsaf [former Palestinian village near Safed] – 52 men were caught, tied them to one another, dug a pit and shot them. 10 were still twitching. Women came, begged for mercy. Found bodies of 6 elderly men. There were 61 bodies. 3 cases of rape, one east of from Safed, girl of 14, 4 men shot and killed. From one they cut off his fingers with a knife to take the ring.”

 

The writer goes on to describe additional massacres, looting and abuse perpetrated by Israeli forces in Israel’s War of Independence. “There’s no name on the document and it’s not clear who’s behind it,” Dr. Novick tells Haaretz. “It also breaks off in the middle. I found it very disturbing. I knew that finding a document like this made me responsible for clarifying what happened.”

 

 

 

Since the start of the last decade, Defense Ministry teams have been scouring Israel’s archives and removing historic documents. But it’s not just papers relating to Israel’s nuclear project or to the country’s foreign relations that are being transferred to vaults: Hundreds of documents have been concealed as part of a systematic effort to hide evidence of the Nakba.

The phenomenon was first detected by the Akevot Institute for Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Research. According to a report drawn up by the institute, the operation is being spearheaded by Malmab, the Defense Ministry’s secretive security department (the name is a Hebrew acronym for “director of security of the defense establishment”), whose activities and budget are classified. The report asserts that Malmab removed historical documentation illegally and with no authority, and at least in some cases has sealed documents that had previously been cleared for publication by the military censor. Some of the documents that were placed in vaults had already been published.

 

 

 

 

 

[bad_teammate 13192]

Apartheid Nation

[NowThis 931]

ethnic cleansing to build homes for Jews.  Israel claims this place is a huge security threat; they don't grant permits to Arabs 98% of the time, so the Arabs build in East Jerusalem which is majority Arab. The Jews act the victim as usual, blow it up, and move in. 

[NowThis 931]

Spoiler

 

 

Israeli settler in the west bank  hit and run, killing the 7 yo boy .  Several Arabs are routinely killed by vehicles, the Jewish driver is rarely ,if ever, prosecuted.

 

Edited July 24, 2019 by NowThis