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Disclaimer: I've been pretty clearly anti-Israeli leadership and anti-radical Islam.  I don't see a good guy in this thing; I see two bad guys, and I think the most anyone could reasonably argue is th

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56 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

I agree with this, but as is often the case when Trump does the right thing, he does it for the wrong reasons or in the most ham-handed way.  We've given something to Israel that they really wanted.  What did the US get out of it from Israel, besides biblical prophecy?  I'm a huge supporter of Israel, but the US needs to serve its own interests first, and those interests are served by getting the Israelis to compromise on certain things.  We've given up a key leverage point, and for what? 

We are going to get Jesus Part II out of the deal.  That's what John Hagee has promised.  He's the guy we had give the benediction today.  For this highly controversial, diplomatically challenging (to the say the least), we feature a minister who predicts we (or Israel) will be nuking Muslims as a necessary part of Christ returning. 

Hagee and Beck

 

 

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of course not, but I'm not dumb enough to not blame the parent who apparently got what they wanted.  A martyr

He should have started a wordpress to protest his being stuck in the world's largest open air prison.  

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2 minutes ago, Lagunamadre said:

I would urge you to not look too deep into our BFFs over there, Saudi Arabia. You will not like their beliefs. Should we go to war with them too? 

No bc they're on our side now.  The Arab world is fracturing and the US and Israel (plus the whole world) will benefit from it.  

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2 minutes ago, Tuco said:

We are going to get Jesus Part II out of the deal.  That's what John Hagee has promised.  He's the guy we had give the benediction today.  For this highly controversial, diplomatically challenging (to the say the least), we feature a minister who predicts we (or Israel) will be nuking Muslims as a necessary part of Christ returning. 

Hagee and Beck

 

 

Christians and Muslims are going to fuck it up for all the rest of us. 

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At least we have a statesman like Trump, who understands the delicate intricacies of the region.  Selecting Jeffress to deliver the inaugural prayer at the new embassy is proof of his genius.  I mean, might as well pick someone offensive to all the regional players...that way no one feels left out.  Hopefully he plays his greatest hits...Jews are going to hell, Muslims are evil, Catholics are Satan's minions...should be fun for the whole family.

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He should have started a wordpress to protest his being stuck in the world's largest open air prison.  

Agreed, living so close to Hamas and other terrorists must make them feel right at home.  Surely the other middle east nations are waiting with open arms to take them in.  They aren't going to annihilate the Jews and take back their land, get over it and stop sacrificing children for political points in world news coverage.  They will lose thousands of men, woman and children proving this to each other.  They don't care, because they don't want a solution.  It's is everything or nothing.  The prison is created by their leaders who refuse to join the modern world and wish to turn their people back to the dark ages while drinking the blood of the Jews.

Go Israel.

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7 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

don't use kids as human shields....Easy.  And a huge assumption that those shot were unarmed.

this is a common myth about shields, no one is doing that. Second, the videos don't show anyone armed. People are throwing rocks and molotov cocktails (do you know what that is?) but these fall short against the heavily fortified fence and barricades. Besides the soldiers are behind bunkers and dirt mounds.  Don't clutch pearls about the "danger" posed by the unarmed crowd.

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5 minutes ago, Lagunamadre said:

Christians and Muslims are going to fuck it up for all the rest of us. 

ironically, the Jews and the Arabs are not doign this out of religion.. it's the Evangelicals who are the biggest religious fanatics by far in this conflict.  Hagee, Jeffries and all the Televangelists are getting rich off this conflict off the dumbass Christian masses. 

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1 minute ago, Orca of Peace said:

this is a common myth about shields, no one is doing that. Second, the videos don't show anyone armed. People are throwing rocks and molotov cocktails (do you know what that is?) but these fall short against the heavily fortified fence and barricades. Besides the soldiers are behind bunkers and dirt mounds.  Don't clutch pearls about the "danger" posed by the unarmed crowd.

bullshit, if there was one responsible adult there they would have grabbed the kid and taken them out of the war zone.  But that doens't make much for outrage.

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Just now, Orca of Peace said:

this is a common myth about shields, no one is doing that. Second, the videos don't show anyone armed. People are throwing rocks and molotov cocktails (do you know what that is?) but these fall short against the heavily fortified fence and barricades. Besides the soldiers are behind bunkers and dirt mounds.  Don't clutch pearls about the "danger" posed by the unarmed crowd.

I have zero problem with any asshole throwing a rock or molotov cocktail at soldiers being shot, regardless of whether the soldiers are behind bunkers or dirt mounds.  Israel is going to defend themselves.

If Palestinians wanted peace and stopped attacking, their would be peace.  See how Israel exists with Jordan and Egypt.  If Israel laid down their weapons, they would be annihilated.

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2 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

this is a common myth about shields, no one is doing that. Second, the videos don't show anyone armed. People are throwing rocks and molotov cocktails (do you know what that is?) but these fall short against the heavily fortified fence and barricades. Besides the soldiers are behind bunkers and dirt mounds.  Don't clutch pearls about the "danger" posed by the unarmed crowd.

Israel is about to get theirs and they probably deserve it. Fuck Bibi the warmonger. 

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I have zero problem with any asshole throwing a rock or molotov cocktail at soldiers being shot, regardless of whether the soldiers are behind bunkers or dirt mounds.  Israel is going to defend themselves.

If Palestinians wanted peace and stopped attacking, their would be peace.  See how Israel exists with Jordan and Egypt.  If Israel laid down their weapons, they would be annihilated.

people forget they are living under a military occupation.   

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1 minute ago, Orca of Peace said:

people forget they are living under a military occupation.   

Well, they lost the wars.  They can kindly fuck right off and move somewhere else.  Jews have been kicked out of lot of arab countries.  You don't see them still bitching about it.

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Well, they lost the wars.  They can kindly fuck right off and move somewhere else.  Jews have been kicked out of lot of arab countries.  You don't see them still bitching about it.

Then Israel should annex all of the occupied territories and make the Palestinians therein Israeli citizens.

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Palestinians don't forget.

Insanity.  

They keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.  Maybe they should use some of the that aid money to build schools and learn instead of suicide bombs.  Just a thought.  

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1 minute ago, Lagunamadre said:

Iran with Russian help. 

Russians aren't helping bud.  Israel got them to halt the sale of the s-300s.  Iran will be bringing a knife to a gun fight and they know it.   

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As we can see from this thread, for many, there is literally nothing Israel could do that should warrant rebuke. 

Some where along the way "support for Israel" morphed into "support for Israel and whatever they do." I'm done.  Fuck this shit.  We gone from thinking there should be a safe haven for Jews to saying it's okay to kill unarmed children.  "Protecting the Jews" shouldn't be the central message from the Holocaust; "protecting the vulnerable" should be.  It's been turned on its head. 

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As we can see from this thread, for many, there is literally nothing Israel could do that should warrant rebuke. 

Some where along the way "support for Israel" morphed into "support for Israel and whatever they do." I'm done.  Fuck this shit.  We gone from thinking there should be a safe haven for Jews to saying it's okay to kill unarmed children.  "Protecting the Jews" shouldn't be the central message from the Holocaust; "protecting the vulnerable" should be.  It's been turned on its head. 

I think we see no matter how many children the Palestinians send to die, they will always blame those whom they provoke and then ask for sympathy.  Fuck them, they are child murders just the same.

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No one ever wins arguments on this topic.  The reality is that Israel is going nowhere in any of our lifetimes.

But it is beyond ridiculous to try and pin these latest deaths on the IDF.  The riots have been going on for months.  People have been getting killed for months.  Israel has told the palestinians that anyone (man, woman, child) that tries to broach the barricades is going to get repelled.  Every single Palestinian knows this.  The whole episode is tragic.  But letting kids anywhere near this is 100% on the parents and the leaders today.  

I also like the prison analogy.  Did I miss something?  Aren't 100% of the Palestinians free to go anywhere they want?  Curious term.

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2 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

Israel is under no danger whatsoever, more reason to not massacre unarmed people. It's an overreaction which racists/Evangelicals etc. love though so it's a popular deal among some segments here. 

Orca = Arab

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2 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

Israel is under no danger whatsoever, more reason to not massacre unarmed people. It's an overreaction which racists/Evangelicals etc. love though so it's a popular deal among some segments here. 

Are you ignoring the suicide bombing history?  Seems like that should be giving the IDF plenty of leeway in terms of not actually sending their troops in close to the people attempting to breech the wall/fence.  

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3 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

Israel is under no danger whatsoever, more reason to not massacre unarmed people. It's an overreaction which racists/Evangelicals etc. love though so it's a popular deal among some segments here. 

And we are done here.

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5 minutes ago, sheeeit said:

No one ever wins arguments on this topic.  The reality is that Israel is going nowhere in any of our lifetimes.

But it is beyond ridiculous to try and pin these latest deaths on the IDF.  The riots have been going on for months.  People have been getting killed for months.  Israel has told the palestinians that anyone (man, woman, child) that tries to broach the barricades is going to get repelled.  Every single Palestinian knows this.  The whole episode is tragic.  But letting kids anywhere near this is 100% on the parents and the leaders today.  

I also like the prison analogy.  Did I miss something?  Aren't 100% of the Palestinians free to go anywhere they want?  Curious term.

No.

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9 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

Israel is under no danger whatsoever, more reason to not massacre unarmed people. It's an overreaction which racists/Evangelicals etc. love though so it's a popular deal among some segments here. 

What an absolute moron. 

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21 minutes ago, zork said:

Are you ignoring the suicide bombing history?  Seems like that should be giving the IDF plenty of leeway in terms of not actually sending their troops in close to the people attempting to breech the wall/fence.  

all of that is in the past. The IDF troops are under no danger whatsoever.  They are the most modern army in the world with drones overhead and they are scared of a bunch of teens slinging stones from 100 meters away? lolz. Get a grip on reality. 

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Jesus fuck Israel....

How many Palestinians does Israel kill on a yearly basis?  I found a 2016 article that said there would be about 6.5mm Palestinians in 2017.  I found another article saying the birthrate in the occupied territory (I assume this means Palestine) is 31/1000 (as of 2016).  So they birth about 215k new Palestinians a year.  Apparently there are about 40k Palestinians protesting... you know Israel is counting to see what killing all of them might do to the population control they would like to see.  Israel would probably pay 100 other countries to move their embassies to Jerusalem if it meant open season on the west bank.

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