NCAA football rule changes

[Machinator 32,097]

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2019-04-23/targeting-protocols-approved-football

On targeting:

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Beginning in the fall in games using video review, instant replay officials will be directed to examine all aspects of the play and confirm the targeting foul when all elements of targeting are present. If any element of targeting cannot be confirmed, the replay official will overturn the targeting foul. There will not be an option for letting the call on the field “stand” during a targeting review — it must either be confirmed or overturned. Games using the halftime video review procedure will continue to use the current process.

On overtime:

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Panel members approved a tweak to the overtime rules. If a game reaches a fifth overtime, teams will run alternating two-point plays, instead of starting another drive at the opponent’s 25-yard line. This rules change was made to limit the number of plays from scrimmage and to bring the game to a conclusion.

On kickoffs:

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The panel approved a rules change to eliminate the two-man wedge formation on all kickoffs. 

On blindside blocks:

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The panel approved a new rule relevant to blind-side blocking techniques. Players will not be allowed to deliver a blind-side block by attacking an opponent with forcible contact. It will be a personal foul with a 15-yard penalty. If the block also includes the elements of targeting, it will be a blind-side block with targeting.

 

[SwanderedTalent 5,761]

5 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Panel members approved a tweak to the overtime rules. If a game reaches a fifth overtime, teams will run alternating two-point plays, instead of starting another drive at the opponent’s 25-yard line

A&M's 2018 win over LSU is hereby vacated

[BigHorn'13 3,354]

About fucking time with the targeting. 

[taybo20 2,815]

We suck at kick return anyway. Better fair catch every single one.

[Tex Pete 20,179]

4 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

A&M's 2018 win over LSU is hereby vacated

If they had followed the rules that were already in place, aggy would have lost.

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1,084]

25 minutes ago, Machinator said:

On overtime: Panel members approved a tweak to the overtime rules. If a game reaches a fifth overtime, teams will run alternating two-point plays, instead of starting another drive at the opponent’s 25-yard line. This rules change was made to limit the number of plays from scrimmage and to bring the game to a conclusion.

Dumb.  Just move it back to the 35, and the number of overtimes would go way down.

[Nueces River Rat 5,529]

Good on the targeting rule.

But does a new can worms get opened on the blindside blocking penalty?   

[AUS-97HORN 11,681]

3 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Good on the targeting rule.

But does a new can worms get opened on the blindside blocking penalty?   

of course.   its almost guaranteed to happen- and since its almost always done on offense, you may end up losing your most important linemen/ WR/ TE to the process.

and of course, they didnt fucking say it was reviewable (unless targeting), so we are right back to the first games of the targeting rule where everyone lost their shit when a ref called targeting and it was clearly not targeting, yet the penalty stood along with the suspension.   

[Vic Mackey 46,936]

Make overtime resemble real football, you know like the NFL does. Starting at the 25 is just fucking silly. I was hoping to see a real change take place before opening this thread but nope. Most games don't even reach that many OTs so that change is pointless. If you are going to go to the NFL's model, then have them start at the 50yd line minimum. But it would be better served on their own 40. 60 yards in front of you.

[Nueces River Rat 5,529]

1 minute ago, AUS-97HORN said:

of course.   its almost guaranteed to happen- and since its almost always done on offense, you may end up losing your most important linemen/ WR/ TE to the process.

and of course, they didnt fucking say it was reviewable (unless targeting), so we are right back to the first games of the targeting rule where everyone lost their shit when a ref called targeting and it was clearly not targeting, yet the penalty stood along with the suspension.   

Exactly what I was thinking...

Why couldn't they just wrap it all  under the jurisdiction of targeting and treat as such under the new rules?   Most of those blind side blocks I've see over the years are similar to defensive targeting.  Call it offensive targeting subjected to the same review process.  

[Tex Pete 20,179]

12 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Make overtime resemble real football, you know like the NFL does.

NFL overtime is boring as shit. For that matter, the NFL is boring as shit. Fuck it.

[B00M 6,280]

14 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Make overtime resemble real football, you know like the NFL does. Starting at the 25 is just fucking silly. I was hoping to see a real change take place before opening this thread but nope. Most games don't even reach that many OTs so that change is pointless. If you are going to go to the NFL's model, then have them start at the 50yd line minimum. But it would be better served on their own 40. 60 yards in front of you.

Fuuuuck that. College football has OT right. 

 

[Gene Parmesan 3,993]

College OT is better, but it wouldn't work the same in the NFL.  How many games a year go to 5 OTs?  Seems kind of a pointless rule change.

[Trey3216 15,325]

30 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

of course.   its almost guaranteed to happen- and since its almost always done on offense, you may end up losing your most important linemen/ WR/ TE to the process.

and of course, they didnt fucking say it was reviewable (unless targeting), so we are right back to the first games of the targeting rule where everyone lost their shit when a ref called targeting and it was clearly not targeting, yet the penalty stood along with the suspension.   

Yep.  Receivers/TE coaches are going to have to coach the guys to set basketball style picks on a blindside block play.   Run up and get in the way, don’t initiate the contact.   

 

Going to be a plethora of horrific calls the first few weeks of the season 

[Born a Longhorn 13]

Overtime: what if each team got five 2-point conversion attempts, alternating.

"Longhorns beat the Sooners 4-3 on conversions"

 

Box score would say "Texas 28 - 28 OU (4-3)"

[DaysOff 7,851]

Hey that's how we did it in intramural flag football.

[Tex Pete 20,179]

The possessions should be from the 25, then the 15, 10, 5, 3, 3, 3...

[AUS-97HORN 11,681]

10 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

The possessions should be from the 25, then the 15, 10, 5, 3, 3, 3...

with no FG's allowed after 1st possession

[DigglerontheHoof 21,061]

Blindside blocking penalty is dumb.  As long as it’s not targeting, it should be legal.

[Horndog 2,218]

2 hours ago, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

Dumb.  Just move it back to the 35, and the number of overtimes would go way down.

This is the correct answer.  

[BB65 476]

OT start from the 25, no FG, no 1st downs you have 4 plays to score. After 2 OT possession for each team first team to score wins

[Wally Pryor 5,244]

Yes, overtime in CFB needs an easy tweak where a team isn't in decent field goal range when they get the ball.

Instead of the 25, start the possession at the 35. 

Edited April 23, 2019 by Wally Pryor

[shakahorn 1,627]

2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Blindside blocking penalty is dumb.  As long as it’s not targeting, it should be legal.

Yeah I don't get it.  Couldn't every variation of counter-trey be called blindside blocking?

[ztejas 43,266]

5th OT triggers multiball

[futureman 22,415]

4 hours ago, Machinator said:

On blindside blocks:

that’s fucking unbelievable.  so if the pursuing defender can’t see you coming to block him he has a free path to make the tackle.  unless you block him, for which you will be penalized.  

this fucking game...

[MrPhlegm 3,413]

A&M's 2018 win over LSU is hereby vacated

Herb Alpert is gonna be pissed.

Oh wait, you mean aggy!

Good job. Here's a cookie.


Enjoy!



Yo, aggy bakers, we need moar cookie dough!

[Tex Long 4,348]

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The panel approved a rules change to eliminate the two-man wedge formation on all kickoffs. 

While it's true the committee were told there would be no maths, a two-man wedge is not possible regardless of one's arithmentical [sic] skills. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unless one player outweighs the other by 250+ pounds, and even then, it's questionable.

 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Make overtime resemble real football, you know like the NFL does. Starting at the 25 is just fucking silly. I was hoping to see a real change take place before opening this thread but nope. Most games don't even reach that many OTs so that change is pointless. If you are going to go to the NFL's model, then have them start at the 50yd line minimum. But it would be better served on their own 40. 60 yards in front of you.

I like the college version of OT better than that of the NFL. Football s the ultimate team sport, butNE never had to face Mahomes in OT because of the NFL’s fucked up rules.

Edited April 23, 2019 by slorch

[MrPhlegm 3,413]

OT start from the 25, no FG, no 1st downs you have 4 plays to score. After 2 OT possession for each team first team to score wins

That's good except you should be able to get a first down.

[Mileslong 4,714]

Only a matter of time before they go to penetrations to determine winner. (Insert lame mother joke here)

[sdm 844]

4 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Yep.  Receivers/TE coaches are going to have to coach the guys to set basketball style picks on a blindside block play.   Run up and get in the way, don’t initiate the contact.   

 

Going to be a plethora of horrific calls the first few weeks of the season 

And call a charging foul on the defensive player.

[Trey3216 15,325]

2 minutes ago, sdm said:

And call a charging foul on the defensive player.

It’ll be holding, once the defensive players learn to flop.   Holding penalties everywhere!

[Nivek 16,859]

How about they clean up the reffing?

[Helobious 9,481]

5 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Make overtime resemble real football, you know like the NFL does. Starting at the 25 is just fucking silly. I was hoping to see a real change take place before opening this thread but nope. Most games don't even reach that many OTs so that change is pointless. If you are going to go to the NFL's model, then have them start at the 50yd line minimum. But it would be better served on their own 40. 60 yards in front of you.

NFL OT is largely over after the coin flip. 

[Napoleon 8,604]

2 hours ago, MrPhlegm said:

Herb Alpert is gonna be pissed. Oh wait, you mean aggy!

Yo, aggy bakers, we need moar cookie dough!

Fistin' For Dollars!!

aggy's favorite game show.

[Hagbard Celine 10,761]

7 hours ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Good on the targeting rule.

But does a new can worms get opened on the blindside blocking penalty?   

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The panel approved a new rule relevant to blind-side blocking techniques. Players will not be allowed to deliver a blind-side block by attacking an opponent with forcible contact. It will be a personal foul with a 15-yard penalty. If the block also includes the elements of targeting, it will be a blind-side block with targeting.

1. line up for goalline or other short yardage situation

2. OL except center do a landry flexset then standup and do an about-face and go in to a passprotect stance facing away from opponent

3. snap ball

4. walk backwards

5. ?

6. profit

[notre dame joe 172]

College OT aint broke

[Hagbard Celine 10,761]

6 hours ago, Born a Longhorn said:

Overtime: what if each team got five 2-point conversion attempts, alternating.

"Longhorns beat the Sooners 4-3 on conversions"

 

Box score would say "Texas 28 - 28 OU (4-3)"

we never shuold have gotten rid of penetrations

[Hagbard Celine 10,761]

3 hours ago, shakahorn said:

Yeah I don't get it.  Couldn't every variation of counter-trey be called blindside blocking?

gatech navy and army should just go ahead and forfeit

[BigSwingingD 719]

Blindside blocking rule....GAAAAYYY.

Maybe EJ is on to something because football as we know it is turning into 7 v 7.

 

[BB65 476]

4 hours ago, MrPhlegm said:

7 hours ago, BB65 said:

OT start from the 25, no FG, no 1st downs you have 4 plays to score. After 2 OT possession for each team first team to score wins

That's good except you should be able to get a first down.

 

4 hours ago, MrPhlegm said:

7 hours ago, BB65 said:

OT start from the 25, no FG, no 1st downs you have 4 plays to score. After 2 OT possession for each team first team to score wins

That's good except you should be able to get a first down.

The reasons to eliminate 1st downs is because defense is football too. I would be ok starting from the 30 and giving a 1st down after crossing the 15. 

[Guest]

So you don't understand what a first down is in American football.

 

Tell us more...

[BB65 476]

11 minutes ago, slorch said:

So you don't understand what a first down is in American football.

 

Tell us more...

Uh yes I do understand what a first down is in American football. You don’t seem to understand making changes to the OT rules to shorten the game. 

[Guest]

Just now, BB65 said:

Uh yes I do understand what a first down is in American football. You don’t seem to understand making changes to the OT rules to shorten the game. 

no, i got it bro.

15 yards for a first down is dumb as hell without first incurring a penalty.

Leave it the fuck alone.  Don't overthink it.

[former alkie 72]

10 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

 For that matter, the NFL is boring as shit. Fuck it.

That’s a poor opinion.

You want to talk boring?  You need to aim your opinion gun at MLB and NBA

[ImissWallyPryor 9,045]

Make 2-point conversions mandatory, and very few games will go past 2 OTs.

[The People’s Elbow 707]

12 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Make overtime resemble real football, you know like the NFL does. Starting at the 25 is just fucking silly. I was hoping to see a real change take place before opening this thread but nope. Most games don't even reach that many OTs so that change is pointless. If you are going to go to the NFL's model, then have them start at the 50yd line minimum. But it would be better served on their own 40. 60 yards in front of you.

It’s a dead heat between which of these I find most impressive: (1) you can do basic math and (2) your hot takes are consistently trash.

[Sejjr 3,246]

These fucking assholes just can’t help but fuck up the rules. What constitutes “forcible contact” on a blind-side block? Fuck, what constitutes a blind-side for that matter? So you can “blind-side” block with contact, as long as it isn’t forcible? This is another shit rule that is rife for abuse from referee interpretation, and of course, it won’t be reviewable. And it means we will never again see a block like the one Cosby laid on that fucking sooner bitch.

Though upon further review, that was not the blind side. Or was it? 

Edited April 24, 2019 by Sejjr

[gecko 1,104]

Based on these new rule changes we will never win in Stillwater again.

[landman 559]

21 hours ago, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

Dumb.  Just move it back to the 35, and the number of overtimes would go way down.

I like this idea.  Or eliminate extra points/field goals - go for it on 4th and run 2 point conversions after every td.