Texans To Vote On Daylight Saving Time

[mycox 582]

Coming this November the people of Texas will decide.

 

[RPM 26185]

All the important things they could be doing like property tax reform and we get this bullshit.

[mycox 582]

I was thinking they could multitask, but you are probably right.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21780]

Historically Texas voters are not very good at deciding important issues so this seems about right for them.

[Helobious 9477]

31 minutes ago, RPM said:

All the important things they could be doing like property tax reform and we get this bullshit.

Tax reform is all a waste of time anyway. They'll get their (your) money one way or another.

I actually wish we had more quirky referendums like this. Maybe next time they'll let us vote on a new state song or bird. 

[Upgrayedd 5803]

Come on over to the dark side 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13391]

Texas will vote to get rid of it, but Texans will get confused and angry when they realize it’s only Texas moving. Show up an hour late to the Statler Bros. concert at the Winstar casino or Lake Charles.  What do you mean it’s 10pm here, it’s 9pm at my house in Orange. Start the show over.

[EE2B 1561]

Yea this could really be fucked up for those of us who live in Texas but work or travel out of Arkansas. One of our mills is in the northern part of Kentucky which is central time. The closest major airport is in Louisville which is eastern time. It’s funny the number of people who miss flights due to not remembering the time zone difference.

 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

I’d love to change but I don’t really care whether it is standard time or saving time.  I just hate the spring forward day and want to get rid of it. 

[El Diablo 4232]

Making the sun appear to come up at the same time every day, year round, seems like an easy enough program to write as long as everyone uses digital/programmable clocks. I could go for a 6:45 sunrise.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

6 hours ago, Helobious said:

Tax reform is all a waste of time anyway. They'll get their (your) money one way or another.

I actually wish we had more quirky referendums like this. Maybe next time they'll let us vote on a new state song or bird. 

The state song is fine, but Mockingbirds are douche bags and need to go.

[DaysOff 7821]

Good riddance. Here come the but, but I'm so outdoorsy people. I love coming home from work and playing in the dirt until 9 pm. Stfu and move to Alaska or watch tv like the rest of America at night.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

6 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

Good riddance. Here come the but, but I'm so outdoorsy people. I love coming home from work and playing in the dirt until 9 pm. Stfu and move to Alaska or watch tv like the rest of America at night.

I work 12 hour shifts. So if I'm working days in the winter I go to work in the dark and come home in the dark. It sucks big sweaty goat balls. But I understand that some people like sucking big sweaty goat balls, and I hope they are sorely disappointed. 

[Guest]

I'm trying to give a fuck, but don't.

Let"s vote on substantial things, like open liquor/ beer trade/ commerce instead of protecting the big boys.

Let's have freedom in Texas and allow casinos.  No fucking bingo halls or tricked up rules to satiate the Baptists either.  Full blown, vegas style casinos.

Allow open execution of child molestors, thieves, and drivers camping out in the left hand lane.

 

Wanna make a difference?  or do we wanna chase the sunshine in what is now a 24 hour world anyhoo...?

Edited April 25, 2019 by slorch

[Nueces River Rat 5528]

If I have to chose between the two, I'd rather have the extra  daylight in the evening vs the morning.   

Living here on the coast, the humidity is much higher in the morning vs the evenings until the sea breeze kicks in late in the afternoon and kind of breaks up the muck.   I tend to get more done as far as outdoor chores later in the day when the humidity is "lower" vs the morning hours.   I rather work outside in 100 degree heat vs 80 something degrees with high humidity levels any day of the week.   Another reason I don't mind it so much when we get into an extended dry weather pattern down in this area as long as we have our water issues covered. 

Plus during football season,  I can get home from work and mow my entire yard, edge, etc before sundown on a Thursday evening and free up myself to be a lazy ass for a full Saturday of football watching unless my wife schedules us for something and doesn't tell me until Friday evening we are going somewhere the next day.  

Edited April 25, 2019 by Nueces River Rat

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

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I'm trying to give a fuck, but don't.

Let"s vote on substantial things, like open liquor/ beer trade/ commerce instead of protecting the big boys.

Let's have freedom in Texas and allow casinos.  No fucking bingo halls or tricked up rules to satiate the Baptists either.  Full blown, vegas style casinos.

Allow open execution of child molestors, thieves, and drivers camping out in the left hand lane.

 

Wanna make a difference?  or do we wanna chase the sunshine in what is now a 24 hour world anyhoo...?

Yeah, let's not make small changes when we could try and fail to make big drastic changes! Progress! Unless it isn't progressive enough! 

 

Go eat a bag of dicks.

Edited April 25, 2019 by NotActuallyALonghorn
The editing feature on this site sucks more dick than slorch.

[DigglerontheHoof 21022]

Keep summer hours all year long.  

[Armybrat 40678]

7 hours ago, mycox said:

I was thinking they could multitask, but you are probably right.

They are - doing this and stealing all kinds of shit.

[UTCzech III 2897]

Does anybody REALLY know what time it is?  Does anybody really care?

[Armybrat 40678]

OU sucks either way.

[Surly Bevo 24692]

LOL at you dim witted fuckers calling this inconsequential.

This is for once the one issue that actually affects everybody...short of some guy sitting on a rock his whole life out in Big Bend nobody gets away from “what time is it/que hora es?”

Nothing else mentioned so far has that kind of wide ranging impact.

Oh and if you want to cling to a number there are several studies that show the cost in loss of productivity, etc due to trying to fuck around with clocks is ~$500-700 million per year nationwide, every single year. So maybe say 50 million a year to Texas...every single year. Then there are the heart attacks the car wrecks etc.

[RexWilson 1341]

For sports watching, would we be shifting between Eastern and Central or Central and Mountain? Fuck eastern sports time schedule.

[bschoolprof 6232]

8 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

For sports watching, would we be shifting between Eastern and Central or Central and Mountain? Fuck eastern sports time schedule.

This stuff is always confusing, but I think:

If we go to year round daylight time, we'd be on central in the summer and eastern in the winter.

If we go to year round standard time, we'd be on central in the winter and mountain in the summer.

 

[phdhorn 6224]

Just make a day 25 hours.  Problem solved.  Sheesh!

[austingirl 2184]

I'd prefer to lose DST, but only if it happened across the country and not just in TX. Too many logistical problems with us not having DST while most other states have it.

[miguelito 11204]

Next we need to fix the tilt and wobble in the earth's axis, so that we truly have the same hours of daylight all year.

Of course, we would no longer have seasons, but that's a small price to pay to have the sun rise and set at the same time every day. 

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

11 minutes ago, austingirl said:

I'd prefer to lose DST, but only if it happened across the country and not just in TX. Too many logistical problems with us not having DST while most other states have it.

Other states do it. If nobody else is willing to stand out, then nothing will ever get fixed. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13391]

I’m too slow to figure out if this means that 6 months of year we would be the same as east coast or mountain time? 

These are the type of ideas that shouldn’t be on a ballot.  People will vote because they hate the one morning per year that they wake up one hour earlier than normal.  The horror.  The horror.  And some may believe that this will keep the sun up until 8pm in winter.

as for changing clocks, I think I’m down to just my oven clock that isn’t automatic.

 

 

[AUS-97HORN 11654]

honest question, since its "Texas" does this mean the part of the state that is actually in Mountain time would be forced to be on the same time zone as the rest of the state?

[Nueces River Rat 5528]

Well..  Apparently it's just not we the uneducated and backwards folk here in Texas who want to stop the changing of the clock non sense.

Flor-duh is looking at it.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2019/03/06/daylight-saving-time-coming-end-florida-lawmakers-push-nationwide-end/3081189002/

 

So are the enlightened Europeans 

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/27/707179979/european-parliament-moves-toward-ending-daylight-saving-time

 

And Washington State 

https://www.spokanepublicradio.org/post/permanent-daylight-saving-time-goes-wa-governors-desk

 

Here's a good article which kind of wraps up the movement toward ending it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/03/tired-of-daylight-saving-time-these-states-trying-to-end-clock-changes/

 

[Jerry Callo 8658]

We can't vote to change the time zone, only the DST.  El Paso will still be in a different time zone.

 

[bschoolprof 6232]

7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I’m too slow to figure out if this means that 6 months of year we would be the same as east coast or mountain time? 

These are the type of ideas that shouldn’t be on a ballot.  People will vote because they hate the one morning per year that they wake up one hour earlier than normal.  The horror.  The horror.  And some may believe that this will keep the sun up until 8pm in winter.

as for changing clocks, I think I’m down to just my oven clock that isn’t automatic.

 

 

 

28 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

This stuff is always confusing, but I think:

If we go to year round daylight time, we'd be on central in the summer and eastern in the winter.

If we go to year round standard time, we'd be on central in the winter and mountain in the summer.

 

 

[Blotto 23418]

20 minutes ago, austingirl said:

I'd prefer to lose DST, but only if it happened across the country and not just in TX. Too many logistical problems with us not having DST while most other states have it.

Agreed I dont really give a fuck either way as long as its consistent across the country. If some states elect to stay on DST year round, others elect to stay on standard time year round, and the rest switch back and forth like we currently do, it will be a fucking disaster trying to coordinate shit.

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

"Changing the time" is and has always been dumb.  If some school, or workplace wants more or less daylight in the morning or afternoon the. Just change the schedule.  The numbers we assign to the times of day are just arbitrary human constructs. So,  For that matter time zones are dumb too.  Just keep one global time and people will eventually adjust.  Japanese will eat dinner at 2am, Americans will eat dinner at 3pm, Australians will only eat dinner in the summer, etc.

[Grippe 308]

How will this affect my schedule during the football season is all I give two shits about.

[Pasken 1309]

2 minutes ago, Grippe said:

How will this affect my schedule during the football season is all I give two shits about.

I'd be fine with games starting at 11 AM. I hope the ballot language explains to people that DST is when you have more light at the end of the day and ST is more light in the morning.

[ImissWallyPryor 9045]

Moderates will bitch that splitting the difference is not a choice.

[Wally Fairway 5517]

2 hours ago, El Diablo said:

Making the sun appear to come up at the same time every day, year round, seems like an easy enough program to write as long as everyone uses digital/programmable clocks. I could go for a 6:45 sunrise.

You have the right idea, but completely wrong execution - what we really need is sunset every day at 9pm.

 

Just pointing out the issue with wanting to change, but debating to keep standard or daylight times....same debate here in Michigan, but not yet on the ballot or proposed as legislation. I think there was a poll that > 80% favored getting rid of changing time, but it was about 60/40 as to keep daylight/standard. And similar to TX, MI has a small area in a different time zone, so now some are proposing to change the state from Eastern to Central time.

Maybe we should just make it so that everyday when the sun is at it's apex, over the capital, then that is noon.

Edited April 25, 2019 by Wally Fairway

[HornOnTheBayou 8877]

1 hour ago, RexWilson said:

For sports watching, would we be shifting between Eastern and Central or Central and Mountain? Fuck eastern sports time schedule.

Truth. I have a hard enough time staying up to watch West Coast playoff games. There's no way I would do it if the games didn't start until 10:30.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

5 minutes ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

Moderates will bitch that splitting the difference is not a choice.

It's people like you who prevent us from having nice things.

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

2 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

The state song is fine, but Mockingbirds are douche bags and need to go.

Shoot all the blue jays you want, if you can hit em, but remember it’s a sin to kill a mockingbird. 

[Hate 20102]

Wait, there are people that don't like the eastern time for sports?  That's ridiculous.  It would be great not to have NBA playoff games start at 9:30.  I'd vote to get rid of changing and vote to stay on DST.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

11 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Shoot all the blue jays you want, if you can hit em, but remember it’s a sin to kill a mockingbird. 

Blue jays are just pretty crows. Screw 'em.

[phdhorn 6224]

51 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

honest question, since its "Texas" does this mean the part of the state that is actually in Mountain time would be forced to be on the same time zone as the rest of the state?

Fun Fact!  The sun actually sets 45 minutes earlier in Orange (easternmost Texas part of Central Time Zone) than it does in Van Horn (western edge), and a full hour and 18 minutes earlier in Panama City, FL (easternmost edge of CTZ)!  

[ImissWallyPryor 9045]

14 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Blue jays are just pretty crows. Screw 'em.

This.  I have fond memories from my Grandpa's farm house of the almost simultaneous sounds of the screen door being kicked open, shotgun blasts, and cussing at blue jays.

Followed by Grandma muttering, "Old fool."

Edited April 25, 2019 by ImissWallyPryor
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[Armybrat 40678]

Of course y’all know that as soon as it gets changed, the Earth’s magnetic field will finally flip?

[mycox 582]

The federal government also controls the time zones. Texas would have to ask Congress to approve the referendum if the vote is year-round saving time. 

That could take years. 

 

[gsoda3 3234]

i hate waking up before the sun's up.  

[El Diablo 4232]

1 hour ago, Wally Fairway said:

You have the right idea, but completely wrong execution - what we really need is sunset every day at 9pm.

 

Just pointing out the issue with wanting to change, but debating to keep standard or daylight times....same debate here in Michigan, but not yet on the ballot or proposed as legislation. I think there was a poll that > 80% favored getting rid of changing time, but it was about 60/40 as to keep daylight/standard. And similar to TX, MI has a small area in a different time zone, so now some are proposing to change the state from Eastern to Central time.

Maybe we should just make it so that everyday when the sun is at it's apex, over the capital, then that is noon.

I was joking but something like it could work(?, would be a cluster) if you incorporated GPS so that if you were traveling east/west your timekeeping device would compensate.

[WBT 20397]

This bums me out as I'm sure it will pass just like every other referendum.  Texans love pushing the yes button.

The current system is much better than sunrises at 5:30 in the summer or 8:30 in the winter.