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Texans To Vote On Daylight Saving Time


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    • year-round standard time
    • year-round daylight saving time


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  On 4/25/2019 at 11:40 AM, slorch said:

I'm trying to give a fuck, but don't.

Let"s vote on substantial things, like open liquor/ beer trade/ commerce instead of protecting the big boys.

Let's have freedom in Texas and allow casinos.  No fucking bingo halls or tricked up rules to satiate the Baptists either.  Full blown, vegas style casinos.

Allow open execution of child molestors, thieves, and drivers camping out in the left hand lane.

 

Wanna make a difference?  or do we wanna chase the sunshine in what is now a 24 hour world anyhoo...?

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Let Tesla sell cars directly.   

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  On 4/25/2019 at 8:53 PM, Lobo said:

The number of state reps in our Capitol that have this week stated that we live half the year in daylight saving time and half the year in standard time has been absolutely stunning.  I knew we had some dipshits up there, but basic arithmetic takes the cake.  If we "spring" forward in early March and "fall" back in early November.  That's the 3rd month to the 11th month...that's gonna go ahead and be 8 months...not 6.  We don't spend half the year in daylight saving time...we spend 75% of it, 3/4ths, three-quarters, all acceptable answers.  That's an important consideration because it's half-again of a change, not half the change.  So are we really talking about that drastic of a change time-wise?  No.  Will be annoying as shit in dealing with 47 other states?  Yes.  

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And it’s been bothering me for years since that changed that “standard time” is only 4 months of the year. That’s definitionally non-standard. At the very least, they need to change the terminology. 

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I don’t buy that changing time causes people to die or that hundreds of millions of revenue is somehow lost with a time change.  Someone economist discovers a small localized number and then applies it to the entire country.  

does any large change have impacts? Yes. Some good, some bad.  Most likely everything evens out.

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  On 4/26/2019 at 12:21 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don’t buy that changing time causes people to die or that hundreds of millions of revenue is somehow lost with a time change.  Someone economist discovers a small localized number and then applies it to the entire country.  

does any large change have impacts? Yes. Some good, some bad.  Most likely everything evens out.

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Those maps suck - who rises at 7am? You know who my 88 year old dad, most of the people I know are up between 5-6. And calling 5 pm a reasonable sunset time is idiotic, I fucking hate it anytime sunset is before 7pm - and I start to get happy when it is near 9pm, and where I am it is almost at 9:30 around the solstice so I throw a big party....right on the 17th green!

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Most of the people you know wake up between 5-6am?  So you keep the company of basic training enlistees, infants, and retirees?  

I like the first couple months of the switch to CDT simply because it's still dark out at 6:30/7:00a so my daughters stay asleep until then, as do we.  I don't get up until 7:00a unless there's a very good reason, and a few birds chirping does not qualify.  

That said, it would take the Speaker all of 30 seconds to come out and clearly state if we're talking about staying on standard time or CDT the whole year.  Why won't they clarify?  

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  On 4/26/2019 at 12:58 PM, Lobo said:

Most of the people you know wake up between 5-6am?  So you keep the company of basic training enlistees, infants, and retirees?  

I like the first couple months of the switch to CDT simply because it's still dark out at 6:30/7:00a so my daughters stay asleep until then, as do we.  I don't get up until 7:00a unless there's a very good reason, and a few birds chirping does not qualify.  

That said, it would take the Speaker all of 30 seconds to come out and clearly state if we're talking about staying on standard time or CDT the whole year.  Why won't they clarify?  

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You and the kids wake up at sunrise? I have a plan for you but I'll let @ztejasfill you in on the details.

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  On 4/26/2019 at 2:30 PM, ztejas said:

Depends. I'd ask he's at least somewhat familiar with the basic principles of the theory of relativity before proceeding any further. 

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I think there's possibly a market for a watch/timepiece that tells a person "their"  time. Why be held hostage by the constructs of others? Live life on YOUR TIME!

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I hope we don't get to vote on this if for no other reason than we clearly can't agree which time to switch to permanently. Half of us prefer late sun, half prefer early. The current setup, while not what any of us want, is apparently the compromise we need as a society. 

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A buddy of mine created the Sundial app for the iPhone and Apple Watch.  It shows you how far off your local time is from solar time.  You can set notifications for sunup, sundown, solar noon, etc.  Today's solar noon in Austin is at 1:28 pm local time, so we are off about 88 minutes from noon actually being mid-day.

So, if you want to just say screw it, I want my own time, you can do it.  Wake up 6 hrs before solar noon every day, whatever.

I think everyone will vote to go on DST permanently and that first winter people will be bitching about taking their kids to elementary school in the dark.

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  On 4/26/2019 at 12:58 PM, Lobo said:

Most of the people you know wake up between 5-6am?  So you keep the company of basic training enlistees, infants, and retirees?  

I like the first couple months of the switch to CDT simply because it's still dark out at 6:30/7:00a so my daughters stay asleep until then, as do we.  I don't get up until 7:00a unless there's a very good reason, and a few birds chirping does not qualify.  

That said, it would take the Speaker all of 30 seconds to come out and clearly state if we're talking about staying on standard time or CDT the whole year.  Why won't they clarify?  

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A) Most of the people I know are at work by 7:00 - 7:30, get kids on busses around 7:00, and have to drive to work to be there by that time. And that is for a desk jockey job, most places that are shift work has first shift start at 7, which means being there clocked in before 7 and allowing for whatever traffic/weather/etc you might run into.

I'm guessing your kids aren't in school, yet, if you aren't even getting up until 7; that sounds more like a retiree schedule to me.

B) The Speaker won't clarify because they don't know which time is the "right" answer - like any politician they want to propose what the majority wants, sadly for you IMO it will be CST (if it goes to a vote)

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  On 4/26/2019 at 4:50 PM, B00M said:

I hope we don't get to vote on this if for no other reason than we clearly can't agree which time to switch to permanently. Half of us prefer late sun, half prefer early. The current setup, while not what any of us want, is apparently the compromise we need as a society. 

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  On 4/26/2019 at 3:52 AM, Beau Vine said:

It was a pain in the ass for me when I'd have to contact someone on the east coast who was only open 9-5.

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Sure, the time zone difference is a pain in the ass, but the one-hour shift for DST didn't really change anything significantly. 

I don't really care which one the US eventually picks. Just pick one and stop fucking around with changing all the clocks for no decent reason.

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Not having read the whole thread, is the proposal that Texas be in daylight/summer/eastern standard time year round?

 

(For those who don't know, CDT = EST)

 

 

Edit: oh, no proposal, just voting for a change or no change. It'll probably go as well as brexit.

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  On 4/28/2019 at 1:58 AM, elfenix said:

Not having read the whole thread, is the proposal that Texas be in daylight/summer/eastern standard time year round?

 

(For those who don't know, CDT = EST)

 

 

Edit: oh, no proposal, just voting for a change or no change. It'll probably go as well as brexit.

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I see it passing and Texas businesses realize how much it will cost them in system upgrades or development.  Then they will scream about it.

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  On 4/25/2019 at 8:53 PM, Lobo said:

The number of state reps in our Capitol that have this week stated that we live half the year in daylight saving time and half the year in standard time has been absolutely stunning.  I knew we had some dipshits up there, but basic arithmetic takes the cake.  If we "spring" forward in early March and "fall" back in early November.  That's the 3rd month to the 11th month...that's gonna go ahead and be 8 months...not 6.  We don't spend half the year in daylight saving time...we spend 75% of it, 3/4ths, three-quarters, all acceptable answers.  That's an important consideration because it's half-again of a change, not half the change.  So are we really talking about that drastic of a change time-wise?  No.  Will be annoying as shit in dealing with 47 other states?  Yes.  

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I haven't read much of this thread or really thought about the issue, so I don't have an opinion on the matter yet.

That being said, if you're going to call people dipshits and rag on their intellect, you should probably get it right yourself.  Absolutely stunning.

8 months out of 12...that's gonna go ahead and be 67%, 2/3, two-thirds, all acceptable answers.  

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It was my understanding there would be no math.  But yes, 67%, not 75% and certainly not 50%.  But hey, I was closer than the folks touting 50% right?  

That you consider that "absolutely stunning" gives me some concern as to what truly stimulates you.  Here's the really disturbing thing.  I am no sleep, newborn baby, and shitty-to-begin-with math skills.  And they let me teach upper division finance this morning at one of the best business schools in the nation.  But yeah, I shoulda double-checked my work.  And you are a goddamn saint.  

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