Lieutenant gov. Dan Patrick

[Nice Guy Eddie 13415]

5 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/01/23/dan-patrick-says-he-may-further-lower-threshold-bring-bills-senate-flo/

 

With GOP supermajority at risk in 2020, Dan Patrick says Texas Senate may lower threshold to bring bills to the floor

His behavior is also going to lead to the pendulum swinging that much harder the other direction once democrats get a small majority. A reasonable person would start thinking that it’s time to be working with the other side as Texas is becoming purple. He will use it as an excuse to attempt even more draconian laws.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

Reasonable and Dan Patrick have never met. I would venture to say that Dan needs to take his bag of tricks and go home. He's turning 70 this year, but if he cannot adapt to change with a positive mindset, then he can take his brand of small minded politics and leave.

[Jack Straw 2953]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

A reasonable person would start thinking that it’s time to be working with the other side as Texas is becoming purple. He will use it as an excuse to attempt even more draconian laws.

of course - 100% of Republicans act in bad faith at all times.

[tx 3 putt 76419]

Whomever runs against him needs to run on legalize marijuana. 

[Voldemort86 2259]

4 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Reasonable and Dan Patrick have never met. I would venture to say that Dan needs to take his bag of tricks and go home. He's turning 70 this year, but if he cannot adapt to change with a positive mindset, then he can take his brand of small minded politics and leave.

I’m definitely rooting for mitch mcconnell and Dan Patrick’s health to take a turn for the worst.

those 2 men fucking suck. They are the nastiest and most closed minded conservatives out there. Literally doing all they can to keep us ALL in 1950 as long as humanly possible.

[RPM 26231]

7 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Reasonable and Dan Patrick have never met. I would venture to say that Dan needs to take his bag of tricks and go home. He's turning 70 this year, but if he cannot adapt to change with a positive mindset, then he can take his brand of small minded politics and leave.

But those Baltimore winters.

[Pancho 44492]

 

[Ghost of LL 15493]

13 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I think he's going to have a real challenge in 2022.  

[Larry T. Spider 1743]

The problem is that Patrick is up for re-election with Abbott at the top of the ballot.  My strategy would be to go after Patrick really hard as a long term play. Show all the people new to Texas or that have just started paying attention what a disaster he’s been. You may not win but you aren’t going to beat Abbott so turn it into a lose the battle/win the war situation. Make that the race everybody is talking about and force republicans to defend his shenanigans.

[StassneyHorn 6540]

All of this posturing by Dan is him getting ready to go against George P Bush IMO. There will most likely be no cabinet position in 2021 for him after Trump most likely loses.

If Abbots numbers aren’t bad with the base, Dan goes on defense against George P Bush in a LT Gov race in 2022. If Abbott decides to hang up the metaphorical cleats, it will be a primary battle for Governor between the two and then a fight against any Democrat. Or, the most unlikely situation he primaries Abbott over COVID response. Dynamics will certainly change in a redistricting session along with the budget shortfall and property tax relief and school funding.

[SydneyCarton 47893]

I realize Patrick is literally insane, but George P. Bush seems like yet another right-wing fuckstick as well. So, fuck. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19151]

Lina and her bodacious tatas are gonna spank that ass in 2022. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19332]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I realize Patrick is literally insane, but George P. Bush seems like yet another right-wing fuckstick as well. So, fuck. 

yea, just younger and in a better suit. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19151]

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I realize Patrick is literally insane, but George P. Bush seems like yet another right-wing fuckstick as well. So, fuck. 

He’s the little brown one, right?

[Gap03 3287]

2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Lina and her bodacious tatas are gonna spank that ass in 2022. 

You read my mind (although I would have left the bodacious tatas part out - ya know, out of respect ...).  I was wondering if there might be a Clay Jenkins / Lina Hidalgo tandem in Texas' future.

 

  

[F250 28698]

10 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I realize Patrick is literally insane, but George P. Bush seems like yet another right-wing fuckstick as well. So, fuck. 

Patrick is Fitlump crazy and P. Bush is just your basic malleable Republican politician. I'll take the one that blows with the wind over the one that only listens to the imaginary voices in there head.

 

 

[MrBig 5290]

42 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Failed sports bar owner? I missed his episode of Bar Rescue with the dude who is always yelling at everyone. He’s the only guy Dan Patrick listens to.

[Larry T. Spider 1743]

Beto on point as usual in a tweet this morning. Make cornyn and Abbott defend this guy. Bonus points for death cult.

“Want to know why there is an uncontrolled covid outbreak in Texas, with record number of cases, hospitalizations and (soon) deaths? Because Dan Patrick leads a death cult that Abbott, Cornyn and company are too scared to stand up to.”

[Ghost of LL 15493]

16 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

You read my mind (although I would have left the bodacious tatas part out - ya know, out of respect ...).  I was wondering if there might be a Clay Jenkins / Lina Hidalgo tandem in Texas' future.

 

  

I think you're overlooking Art Acevedo.

[Brisketexan 104644]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I think you're overlooking Art Acevedo.

I really don't know anything about his tatas.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23362]

How does Dan Patrick have so much influence over the governor/senators?  Serious question.

[SydneyCarton 47893]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

How does Dan Patrick have so much influence over the governor/senators?  Serious question.

Without details, the Lt Governor position is often considered the most powerful political position in the state. I’m sure someone else can explain in detail.

[Brisketexan 104644]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

How does Dan Patrick have so much influence over the governor/senators?  Serious question.

 

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Without details, the Lt Governor position is often considered the most powerful political position in the state. I’m sure someone else can explain in detail.

This is correct.

Also, he is the voice of the batshit crazy wing of the Republican base.

Also, the batshit crazy wing of the Republican base is now the entire Republican party.  Dan Patrick IS the Republican party's id.  He says what they think.

[Longhorn94 2427]

I can't wait until that whole wing (all of it?) of the Republican party is shamed back into hiding... I still shake my head at the realization that the Republican party somehow became the party of idiots, conspiracy theorists, racists, and all around dumb and stupid people. Maybe it always was but they just hid it better. But now, they arent even trying to hide it. In fact, they celebrate their idiocy and stupidity, revel in it even. Its just so confusing. HOW THE FUCK DID DAN PATRICK WIN ANY ELECTION much less a statewide one? I am so embarrassed that I ever was a republican and am embarrassed for Texas. We are so much better than this.

 

And Abbott? FUCK THAT GUY! How the hell does a brilliant person like that become a much worse governor than Rick Perry? Seriously. embarrassing...

 

 

[SydneyCarton 47893]

17 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

How does Dan Patrick have so much influence over the governor/senators?  Serious question.

Here you go

 

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2018/02/08/266423/a-brief-history-of-texas-most-powerful-political-office-lieutenant-governor/

[formermav43 4599]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

I think he's going to have a real challenge in 2022.  

Agreed.

I know lots of people who voted GOP down the line even in 2018 except for Patrick. There’s a reason his race was so much closer than Abbott’s.

[Brisketexan 104644]

2 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

Agreed.

I know lots of people who voted GOP down the line even in 2018 except for Patrick. There’s a reason his race was so much closer than Abbott’s.

He'll win again.  Because we're Texas, we can't vote for the librulcommunistsocialist democraps!  

Texas is red through at least 2026.  I love the dreaming, and I'm all for continuing the relentless attack, and maybe getting a surprise early result.  But don't count on anything good till 2026-28.

[formermav43 4599]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

He'll win again.  Because we're Texas, we can't vote for the librulcommunistsocialist democraps!  

Texas is red through at least 2026.  I love the dreaming, and I'm all for continuing the relentless attack, and maybe getting a surprise early result.  But don't count on anything good till 2026-28.

I’m not really in your dreaming camp. Or talking about any sort of large scale shift. I’m just saying that Patrick, personally, is strongly disliked, even by otherwise reliable Republican voters. No one who has an educator in their family voted for him.

[gmr548 16518]

The problem is that Patrick is up for re-election with Abbott at the top of the ballot.  My strategy would be to go after Patrick really hard as a long term play. Show all the people new to Texas or that have just started paying attention what a disaster he’s been. You may not win but you aren’t going to beat Abbott so turn it into a lose the battle/win the war situation. Make that the race everybody is talking about and force republicans to defend his shenanigans.

Patrick should be target number one in 2022. His race was nearly as close as the Senate race just because of how disliked he is.

[tx 3 putt 76419]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Lina and her bodacious tatas are gonna spank that ass in 2022. 

She’s going to run for senate 

[hpslugga 4044]

11 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

I’m not really in your dreaming camp. Or talking about any sort of large scale shift. I’m just saying that Patrick, personally, is strongly disliked, even by otherwise reliable Republican voters. No one who has an educator in their family voted for him.

And for good reason. In the GOP platform that the state released in 2012, their position on education was:

"Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."

And everyone with a functioning gray cell understood that his fingerprints were all over that. He's pig-ignorant and proud of it. But he'd have been simply cast aside were it not for the fact that his voter base is filled with 1) people who agree with this mentality, which means they're as pig-ignorant as he is 2) people who don't know that's in their platform 3) people who don't care and 4) pseudo intellectuals that offer twisted apologetics in defense of this garbled verbal effluvia.

Edited July 1, 2020 by hpslugga

[elfenix 34182]

30 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

HOW THE FUCK DID DAN PATRICK WIN ANY ELECTION much less a statewide one? I am so embarrassed that I ever was a republican and am embarrassed for Texas. We are so much better than this.

talk radio host with name recognition running in a primary that might as well be the general for a tx senate seat back in 2006.  a few years being the wacky guy that borrowed a million dollars in cash to bring as a prop to the tx senate floor, but then latching onto the kansas and arizona wing of the republican party just as the kochs really started pouring money into astroturfing, and, walla, dan patrick as lt gov. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33844]

Today can get fucked and so can Dan Patrick

[Nivek 16864]

13 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

I’m not really in your dreaming camp. Or talking about any sort of large scale shift. I’m just saying that Patrick, personally, is strongly disliked, even by otherwise reliable Republican voters. No one who has an educator in their family voted for him.

Ted Cruz.

[tx 3 putt 76419]

Thank the ignorant Texas Tea Party for this mess 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13415]

2 hours ago, Larry T. Spider said:

Beto on point as usual in a tweet this morning. Make cornyn and Abbott defend this guy. Bonus points for death cult.

“Want to know why there is an uncontrolled covid outbreak in Texas, with record number of cases, hospitalizations and (soon) deaths? Because Dan Patrick leads a death cult that Abbott, Cornyn and company are too scared to stand up to.”

The GOP has learned how to defend someone like Dan Patrick: feign ignorance of the statement and refuse to let a reporter read it to you. Not to mention that good luck in Abbott allowing a reporter within ear shot.

[Ghost of LL 15493]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

He'll win again.  Because we're Texas, we can't vote for the librulcommunistsocialist democraps!  

Texas is red through at least 2026.  I love the dreaming, and I'm all for continuing the relentless attack, and maybe getting a surprise early result.  But don't count on anything good till 2026-28.

Everything hinges on Abbott.

Abbott still has positive approval ratings (though I think the current situation is going to erode those somewhat).  And he is a wizard when it comes to fundraising.  If he runs for reelection in 2022, then I think you might be right.

If he doesn't run for reelection in 2022, then things get a whole lot messier.  There are going to be primaries for every damned race, and those are going to be damaging to whoever wins.  You're probably going to have Patrick v. Bush in a primary for governor.  Whoever wins is going to have a real tough time uniting his party.  But whoever wins is going to have no problem uniting the Democratic Party against him.

But one of them is going to lose.  And that means that either Patrick or Bush is going to be sitting on the sidelines for the 2022 general election.

And that raises maybe the great unspoken specter facing the Trumpublican Party in Texas--it really has a very weak bench right now.  As you look down to the lower statewide officeholders, they all have very limited appeal and would have trouble with a higher-profile statewide race.  Ken Paxton is still under indictment.  Sid Miller is a walking scandal machine.  There are a lot of Republicans who just want those two to go away.  They're going to have a lot of trouble running for higher office.

And further down, who is there?  Bonnen is gone.  What state senator or rep makes you think "there's a star in the making"?  I certainly can't think of one on the Trumpublican side.

And then on the local level, you wold typically expect to see those people come out of the big counties.  But the major urban counties are now all Democratic.  And even the bigger suburban counties are following close behind.  So where are the Republicans going to get their statewide candidates?

This state is now an urban/suburban state.  That's a tough one when you're the party of the exurbs/rural areas.  How are you going to get votes in Williamson or Fort Bend Counties when you're the state senator from Pampa?

[gmr548 16518]

Everything hinges on Abbott.
Abbott still has positive approval ratings (though I think the current situation is going to erode those somewhat).  And he is a wizard when it comes to fundraising.  If he runs for reelection in 2022, then I think you might be right.
If he doesn't run for reelection in 2022, then things get a whole lot messier.  There are going to be primaries for every damned race, and those are going to be damaging to whoever wins.  You're probably going to have Patrick v. Bush in a primary for governor.  Whoever wins is going to have a real tough time uniting his party.  But whoever wins is going to have no problem uniting the Democratic Party against him.
But one of them is going to lose.  And that means that either Patrick or Bush is going to be sitting on the sidelines for the 2022 general election.
And that raises maybe the great unspoken specter facing the Trumpublican Party in Texas--it really has a very weak bench right now.  As you look down to the lower statewide officeholders, they all have very limited appeal and would have trouble with a higher-profile statewide race.  Ken Paxton is still under indictment.  Sid Miller is a walking scandal machine.  There are a lot of Republicans who just want those two to go away.  They're going to have a lot of trouble running for higher office.
And further down, who is there?  Bonnen is gone.  What state senator or rep makes you think "there's a star in the making"?  I certainly can't think of one on the Trumpublican side.
And then on the local level, you wold typically expect to see those people come out of the big counties.  But the major urban counties are now all Democratic.  And even the bigger suburban counties are following close behind.  So where are the Republicans going to get their statewide candidates?
This state is now an urban/suburban state.  That's a tough one when you're the party of the exurbs/rural areas.  How are you going to get votes in Williamson or Fort Bend Counties when you're the state senator from Pampa?

This is why you can absolutely expect NC-GA-WI level election fuckery from the state in the near term future. Possibly with some nice AZ show me your papers type shit as well.

[SydneyCarton 47893]

25 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Everything hinges on Abbott.

Abbott still has positive approval ratings (though I think the current situation is going to erode those somewhat).  And he is a wizard when it comes to fundraising.  If he runs for reelection in 2022, then I think you might be right.

If he doesn't run for reelection in 2022, then things get a whole lot messier.  There are going to be primaries for every damned race, and those are going to be damaging to whoever wins.  You're probably going to have Patrick v. Bush in a primary for governor.  Whoever wins is going to have a real tough time uniting his party.  But whoever wins is going to have no problem uniting the Democratic Party against him.

But one of them is going to lose.  And that means that either Patrick or Bush is going to be sitting on the sidelines for the 2022 general election.

And that raises maybe the great unspoken specter facing the Trumpublican Party in Texas--it really has a very weak bench right now.  As you look down to the lower statewide officeholders, they all have very limited appeal and would have trouble with a higher-profile statewide race.  Ken Paxton is still under indictment.  Sid Miller is a walking scandal machine.  There are a lot of Republicans who just want those two to go away.  They're going to have a lot of trouble running for higher office.

And further down, who is there?  Bonnen is gone.  What state senator or rep makes you think "there's a star in the making"?  I certainly can't think of one on the Trumpublican side.

And then on the local level, you wold typically expect to see those people come out of the big counties.  But the major urban counties are now all Democratic.  And even the bigger suburban counties are following close behind.  So where are the Republicans going to get their statewide candidates?

This state is now an urban/suburban state.  That's a tough one when you're the party of the exurbs/rural areas.  How are you going to get votes in Williamson or Fort Bend Counties when you're the state senator from Pampa?

Who do you think the Dems would try to run for Governor if Abbott doesn't run? Beto?

[StassneyHorn 6540]

Just went through the state senate Male Republicans and wasn’t struck by much. The experienced guys like Kel Seliger and Nichols and Birdwell ain’t moving. Bob Hall is 78. Schwertner is a creep. Pat Fallon has a good story though. 
 

Republican women though gave me different vibes. Paxton’s wife is a State Senator and probably groomed for higher office, Lois Kolkhorst was author of the bathroom bill, Donna Campbell wanted to allow businesses to be able to discriminate against LGBT and called public schools a monstrosity and monopoly, and infamously    sidelined Wendy Davis’s abortion filibuster with different points of order.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33844]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Who do you think the Dems would try to run for Governor if Abbott doesn't run? Beto?

rumor is Matthew McConaughey is running. I don't know the veracity of that claim, but he'd have my fucking vote

[SydneyCarton 47893]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

rumor is Matthew McConaughey is running. I don't know the veracity of that claim, but he'd have my fucking vote

Yeah, I read that stuff and it's a rumor that doesn't have legs yet. I would not be averse to him running, however. 

[Wally Pryor 5244]

Can't see it.   McConaughey has the life, Minister of Culture, and everything else.   None of which has all the garbage that comes with being governor or any other high-profile political position. 

Given his ego, McConaughey would probably consider running. Sanity, and Camila, would prevail. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

And for good reason. In the GOP platform that the state released in 2012, their position on education was:
"Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."
And everyone with a functioning gray cell understood that his fingerprints were all over that. He's pig-ignorant and proud of it. But he'd have been simply cast aside were it not for the fact that his voter base is filled with 1) people who agree with this mentality, which means they're as pig-ignorant as he is 2) people who don't know that's in their platform 3) people who don't care and 4) pseudo intellectuals that offer twisted apologetics in defense of this garbled verbal effluvia.

Pig-ignorant is a great insult.

[F250 28698]

3 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

 

And Abbott? FUCK THAT GUY! How the hell does a brilliant person like that become a much worse governor than Rick Perry? Seriously. embarrassing...

He disgusts me.

 

 

[DaysOff 7853]

Put your thumb down dipshit. There isn't a single UT grad on this site that would do that in aggy solidarity, but mah conservative votes.

[CooterBrown 17917]

He'll win again.  Because we're Texas, we can't vote for the librulcommunistsocialist democraps!  
Texas is red through at least 2026.  I love the dreaming, and I'm all for continuing the relentless attack, and maybe getting a surprise early result.  But don't count on anything good till 2026-28.

Unfortunately, their gerrymandering and voter suppression will push it out much further than that. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to ban all other political parties in Texas.

[WBT 20425]

I guess they just forgot to do all that for the 2018 election?

 

[hayden_horn 11360]

45 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

Put your thumb down dipshit. There isn't a single UT grad on this site that would do that in aggy solidarity, but mah conservative votes.

they're all the same, dude

 

[Ghost of LL 15493]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Who do you think the Dems would try to run for Governor if Abbott doesn't run? Beto?

I think Lina Hidalgo and Clay Jenkins are primed to run for some statewide office, as is Art Acevedo.  There's always the rumor that Rafael Anchia is running for something.  And I would expect the Castro brothers to run for something, but they never want to get their hands dirty.

It's going to be really interesting to see how they coordinate to make sure that we have people running for the right offices.  I might expect to see Jenkins run for AG and Hidalgo, Anchia, or Acevedo run for governor (and whoever doesn't run for governor run for lt. gov.).

But then there's the wild card.  You could see Biden get elected and take some Texan for a high cabinet post (e.g., Richard Fisher for SecTreas), and then have that Texan come back and run for governor.