2nd Round: Warriors vs. Rockets

[BigOrange1 6,608]

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[satyanash 15,358]

7 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

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Surprised you're picking the Warriors 😛 The Rockets' chances of pulling off the win have never been better, especially with Paul healthy and Klay Thompson injured.

[BigOrange1 6,608]

i put the rockets' chances at around 40%.  i'd love to be wrong.  obviously have to win one of the first 2 in oracle.  

[CBT 1,289]

Warriors SU, but Rockets +210. 

[aggie08 21,734]

34 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Surprised you're picking the Warriors 😛 The Rockets' chances of pulling off the win have never been better, especially with Paul healthy and Klay Thompson injured.

Klay had his ankle plowed into and turned almost 90 degrees by JR Smith in last year's Finals and barely missed a beat. I never worry about his pain tolerance or ability to play through it.

Steph's chicken legs, on the other hand...

[aggie08 21,734]

The key to the series, IMO, is if Golden State still has it in them to be the best defense in basketball for 48 minutes, game after game. The personnel is the same as last year, but the bad habits and complacency are more pronounced than ever.

[TonyTexas 10,683]

The key to the series, IMO, is if Golden State still has it in them to be the best defense in basketball for 48 minutes, game after game. The personnel is the same as last year, but the bad habits and complacency are more pronounced than ever.

Honest question. By what metric is Golden State the best defense in basketball? They’re middle of the pack in defensive efficiency. Last year they were 9th.

 

[Machinator 32,102]

2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Honest question. By what metric is Golden State the best defense in basketball? They’re middle of the pack in defensive efficiency. Last year they were 8th.

aggie08's point is that they have the potential to be elite defensively, but they've been middle-of-the-pack because they don't do it consistently.

[aggie08 21,734]

11 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Honest question. By what metric is Golden State the best defense in basketball? They’re middle of the pack in defensive efficiency. Last year they were 8th.

They were 1st in the playoffs last year. 2nd the postseason before that (1st out of teams who advanced past the first round). When they lock in, they have as good of an argument as anyone. They haven't given a shit about the regular season since KD's first year there (when they led the league in practically every defensive category).

Aside from getting ran out of the gym in Game 2 of last year's WCF, they held Houston's record setting offense to 106, 85, 95, 98, 86, and 92 points in the series.

We'll see if the light still turns on when they try to flip the switch on that end.

Edited April 28, 2019 by aggie08

[satyanash 15,358]

2 hours ago, aggie08 said:

The key to the series, IMO, is if Golden State still has it in them to be the best defense in basketball for 48 minutes, game after game. The personnel is the same as last year, but the bad habits and complacency are more pronounced than ever.

Also why possible missing Klay is a huge deal. He's GS's best Harden defender, along with Iguodala.

Edited April 28, 2019 by satyanash

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

I am die hard with my team but also a realist and until I actually witness the Rockets win a series they are not favored to win I will pick the Warriors. I know the Harden led rockets won vs the clippers a few years ago and probably weren't "favored" to win that series but doing it against one of if not the best team ever assembled is hard to do. Would love to be wrong but prove to me on the court that we can take our game to the next level.

[YChang 3,531]

I am die hard with my team but also a realist and until I actually witness the Rockets win a series they are not favored to win I will pick the Warriors.

Same.

[Machinator 32,102]

 

[hobbes2702 13,351]

15 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Honest question. By what metric is Golden State the best defense in basketball? They’re middle of the pack in defensive efficiency. Last year they were 9th.

 

They have been an elite level defense at times throughout the last 5 years. The first couple years of the GSW run was basically Steph, Klay, and great defense. 

[Vic Mackey 47,848]

[BigOrange1 6,608]

[aggie08 21,734]

You can almost hear the Golden State coaches high fiving each other every time Harden takes an early in the shot clock step back 3 with Steph guarding him.

[aggie08 21,734]

I respect his game SO much more than I used to, but seriously, fuck Harden's head whipping bullshit.

[Smax 3,800]

Go Rockets

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,964]

Damn kd.. that man has a family

[NowThis 931]

what month did PJ last hit a 3? 

[Machinator 32,102]

GSW looking mighty sloppy today. This is the road game that Houston needs to steal.

[Machinator 32,102]

It doesn't matter if Harden can't buy a shot, though.

[CBT 1,289]

Good grief, Houston are missing some great looks.

[NowThis 931]

Igs walked when he caught it 

[NowThis 931]

is Faried still in Houston?

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

Harden has been fouled by klay 3 times and it isn’t been called and it wasn’t even close. GS gets away with murder at home and we are tied. I’ll take that all day. Green is a loud mouth bitch that should have been tossed for screaming like a 6 year old girl getting her doll stolen. 

[Chapo 104]

4 steals for Tucker in the 1st half!

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

50 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I respect his game SO much more than I used to, but seriously, fuck Harden's head whipping bullshit.

Nothing harden does is illegal. Head whipping isn’t illegal, making a defender pay with a quick trigger three because they leave their arm stuck out isn’t illegal either. You have to adapt and adjust to every player that has a unique way of playing. 

I don’t like the way draymon screams at refs(which is illegal) and stomps his feet(also illegal) with hardly any consequences for doing it.

[aggie08 21,734]

2 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Harden has been fouled by klay 3 times and it isn’t been called and it wasn’t even close. GS gets away with murder at home and we are tied. I’ll take that all day. Green is a loud mouth bitch that should have been tossed for screaming like a 6 year old girl getting her doll stolen. 

You're not going to get much sympathy nationwide for the boy who cried wolf all year long finally seeing one.

I think it's been pretty obvious over the years that the NBA focuses in on not rewarding flopping as much in the playoffs, when they more now eyes are on their product. The natural consequence of that are more actual fouls won't be called.

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

Are you watching the game? It was a clear foul 3 times. Not even close and the far from flipping. Lol. At least be real about what happened, even the ref from the studio steve javy said it was a clear foul. You have to give the offensive player a place to come down.

[aggie08 21,734]

3 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Nothing harden does is illegal. Head whipping isn’t illegal, making a defender pay with a quick trigger three because they leave their arm stuck out isn’t illegal either. You have to adapt and adjust to every player that has a unique way of playing. 

I don’t like the way draymon screams at refs(which is illegal) and stomps his feet(also illegal) with hardly any consequences for doing it.

Never says that it's illegal. Just annoying. It's manipulative and not a basketball move. It does the game a disservice. I hate when Steph and Klay get someone up in the air on a pump fake, jump directly sideways into them, and get rewarded for it too. If they did it half a dozen times a game, I'd be pissed.

No arguments from me that Dray is annoying as all fuck.

[aggie08 21,734]

2 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Are you watching the game? It was a clear foul 3 times. Not even close and the far from flipping. Lol. At least be real about what happened, even the ref from the studio steve javy said it was a clear foul. You have to give the offensive player a place to come down.

Did you read my post? I didn't say that they weren't actual fouls. In fact, I said the opposite.

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

2 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Never says that it's illegal. Just annoying. It's manipulative and not a basketball move. It does the game a disservice. I hate when Steph and Klay get someone up in the air on a pump fake, jump directly sideways into them, and get rewarded for it too. If they did it half a dozen times a game, I'd be pissed.

No arguments from me that Dray is annoying as all fuck.

Lol that’s like saying dribbling behind your back is manipulative and does a disservice to the game. Remember when they said dunking should be illegal? Bet you hate pistol Pete game too. Wait are you like 85? You sound like it.

[aggie08 21,734]

1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Lol that’s like saying dribbling behind your back is manipulative and does a disservice to the game. Remember when they said dunking should be illegal? Bet you hate pistol Pete game too. Wait are you like 85? You sound like it.

Yes, that's exactly the same as whipping your head back like you got punched in the face every time you get breathed on. Don't be a dumbass.

Edited April 28, 2019 by aggie08

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

Adjust and adapt. Hey I don’t like the way you play because I just don’t. You sound like a vagina.

[goatsaag 281]

5 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Yes, that's exactly the same as whipping your head back like you got punched in the face every time you get breathed on. Don't be a dumbass.

Or people should stop hitting you in the face?

[aggie08 21,734]

1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Adjust and adapt. Hey I don’t like the way you play because I just don’t. You sound like a vagina.

That's fine. Then just don't cry about it when the refs inevitably stop giving him the calls every postseason because it's not what the league wants to showcase. Adjust and adapt.

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

I’m not the one on here crying. If you can’t be objective about klay three obvious fouls that’s not my fault. The warriors have played by different rules for 3 years now of moving screens galore. It’s beyond obvious to everyone but warrior fans.

[aggie08 21,734]

Houston has been excellent at getting all up in KD's airspace whenever he dribbles. Feels like he's gotten ripped clean a handful of times now.

[NowThis 931]

harden can't make his floaters, a big part of his game when the 3 does not exist. 

[conVINCEd 21,477]

The refs aren’t giving the call on the 3’s because Harden is kicking his legs out every time.  

[aggie08 21,734]

2 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

The refs aren’t giving the call on the 3’s because Harden is kicking his legs out every time.  

Klay's probably should have been called. But Livingston just landed off to the side of CP3, and he still bitches about it.

Edited April 28, 2019 by aggie08

[aggie08 21,734]

Shaun Livingston no longer knows how to play basketball. But they have no one else.

[Vic Mackey 47,848]

This series is going to be exhausting with the constant bitching about calls, especially from the Rockets and Dantoni.

 

[goatsaag 281]

The Warriors have complained just as much even though the calls have been going in their favor

[aggie08 21,734]

Just now, Vic Mackey said:

This series is going to be exhausting with the constant bitching about calls, especially from the Rockets and Dantoni.

 

I pointed this out in their last regular season matchup. And the Warriors are even worse whiners. It can be exhausting. Thankfully, the incredibly high level of play makes it worthwhile, but it's still obnoxious. Wish everyone would just shut up and play.

[TexasMan 11,383]

5 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

This series is going to be exhausting with the constant bitching about calls, especially from the Rockets and Dantoni.

 

They wouldn't be bitching if they made the correct calls. 

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

8 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

This series is going to be exhausting with the constant bitching about calls, especially from the Rockets and Dantoni.

 

Lol yea the warriors aren’t whining at all. Every team whines. 

[aggie08 21,734]

Steph has been playing fucking idiotic with his fouls all postseason.